Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Sunday, March 23, 2008

It seems pretty clear that Barack Obama's speech on race in America has helped the senator rebound a bit. The latest CBS News poll highlighted the trend, as does the latest Gallup tracking poll. Barack Obama has quickly made up the deficit he faced with Hillary Clinton earlier this week, with the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update on Democratic presidential nomination preferences showing 48% of Democratic voters favoring Obama and 45% Clinton. Obama's campaign clearly suffered in recent days from negative press, mostly centering around his association with the controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Perhaps as a result, Clinton moved into the lead in Gallup's Wednesday release, covering March 16-18 polling. But Obama has now edged back ahead of Clinton due to a strong showing for him in Friday night's polling, perhaps in response to the endorsement he received from well-respected New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a former rival for the nomination.

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Today's tracking poll, however, shows Obama back up by three (48%-45%), pointing a 10-point swing in less than a week.

Its time to put the pedal to the metal by reciting daily what even Clinton operatives are saying: She cannot win the nomination without tearing the party asunder in the process.

Obama must remain humble and non-offensive as it regards his own comments about Hillary, but his surrogates and the media need to forward the honest truth that the notion of Hillary "winning" the nomination is as fictional as her own embellished recitation of her landing in Bosnia back when she was First Lady.

Top these two off with former Clinton staffers stating that Hillary had nothing negative to say about NAFTA back in 1993 other than the fact she didn't want it taking priority away from her own healthcare initiative:

"I have now talked to three former Clinton Administration officials whom I trust who tell me that then-First Lady Hillary Clinton opposed the idea of introducing NAFTA before health care, but expressed no reservations in public or private about the substance of NAFTA.

"Yet the Clinton campaign continues to propagate this myth that she fought NAFTA tooth and nail because she opposed the substance of the bill."--Jake Tapper
politicalwire.com

Hillary hasn't been honest about many things during this campaign and the lies are finally catching up with her.

And then there's Hillary's HUGE lie about her 'war zone experience'. Video doesn't lie.

Here she is lying about her 'dangerous' mission to reporters, and CBS News video of the ACTUAL story:

Hillary Clinton Lies About Her Bosnia Trip

How can you tell when a Clintons lies? When they open their big mouth!

My gut tells me she won't quit unless Obama wins PA outright. Other than that, she'll hold on until the convention.

Woo Hoo!

The ability of the MSM to raise or sink an opponent by slanted biased coverage repeating the same notes over and over again may well be at an end.

While the electronic lynching of Obama by proxy may have suckered a few folks into having second thoughts the greater number of folks were finally able to look past the spin and machinations and see the blatent attempt to promote the two corporately owned candidates by sinking the only populist candidate. Indeed, the best candidate fer POTUS that Spud has seen in his lifetime.

Good show, peoples.

Spud's impressed.

That aint easy to do.

Again, Kudos.

Good eye, Tony (as usual)

08ama '08.

Si, se puente.

Be Well.

Nooooooooooooooo..............
.....

His preacher is a racist ....................

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooo............!!!!


---Corky

I understand Obama just as well as he understands me! I want his ass to win the nomination, then watch the defeat his "TYPICAL BLACK MALE" ass gets in the general election.

Ok, Hillary haters..why why WHY...can't Barry pull ahead out of the margin of error and WHY can't he win the big blue states over Hillary? Because half of us see him for what he is--an empty suit. And it will be proved to you in November when McCain wins. (and please, before answering, try and open your eyes and be honest)

Ahhh, yes...Obama, Clinton, Obama, Clinton...on and on. I've seen on several occasions where 20% of Clinton supporters say they'll vote for McCain if she doesn't win and 19% of Obama supporters say they'll vote for McCain if HE doesn't win.
That means McCain gets at least 19% of democrat votes...LOL.

I understand Obama just as well as he understands me! I want his ass to win the nomination, then watch the defeat his "TYPICAL BLACK MALE" ass gets in the general election.

Obama grew up as a half black man raised by white folks.

Obama has a right to speak to racist and divisive attitudes by both races as he's seen them both first hand.

Obama's "Typical white person" sound byte along with his denunciation of some of Reverend Wright's more divisive and 'out there' remarks were all part of a larger attempt to explain unhelpful and entrenched attitudes in both black and white folks in America that need to be included in the national dialogue, but which the MSM is afraid to touch.

If you want McCain to get into power then you, sir, are a moron.

McCain is simply one of the worst candidates for POTUS the country has ever fielded.

Obama is the best candidate Spud's seen in his lifetime.

A "Once in a lifetime" type guy is Obama.

"Into the blue again
After the money's gone"

~Talking Heads "Once in a lifetime"

McCain = "Same as it ever was"

Do not want.

Be Well.


Ok, Hillary haters..why why WHY...can't Barry pull ahead out of the margin of error and WHY can't he win the big blue states over Hillary? Because half of us see him for what he is--an empty suit. And it will be proved to you in November when McCain wins. (and please, before answering, try and open your eyes and be honest)

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-23 02:17 PM | Reply

I'm not sure the "empty suit" argument gets you very far in this primary season.
Hillary is an empty pantsuit, except for all of that valuable experience she got while "under fire" in Bosnia and while getting her ass handed to her on healthcare reform.

Ok, I'm ready to support an Obama campaign, and would very much prefer to see Obama head the Democratic Party's ticket against McCain. In fact, I believe that a Hillary Clinton candidacy would damage the Democratic Party far more than a Barack Obama candidacy. (Why? Because the nation cannot tolerate its recent past, and the Clinton's representa a big opart of that. It's time for the nation to change the page and learn a new tune.)

Today's Rasmussen poll has McCain 50%/Clinton 42%, and McCain 49%/Obama 41%. Rasmussen is usually more accurate than the others. See the trend here:

www.rasmussenreports.com

www.youtube.com

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/in the silent water
Under the rocks and stones/there is water underground.

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/after the moneys gone
Once in a lifetime/water flowing underground.

And you may ask yourself
What is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself
Where does that highway go?
And you may ask yourself
Am I right? ...am I wrong?
And you may tell yourself
My god!...what have I done?


Here comes the twister!

Look, here the twister comes.

Be Well.

I'm not sure the "empty suit" argument gets you very far in this primary season.
Hillary is an empty pantsuit, except for all of that valuable experience she got while "under fire" in Bosnia and while getting her ass handed to her on healthcare reform.

Posted by anton

doesn't answer my question

An election that should be impossible to lose....keep it up Dumbocrats.

"Do not want."

LOL...like we give a shit what you want, you pitiful little impotent whiner.

Come on now...the DudSpud(tm) opinion is so vital....."fuck em', fuck em' with a stick". Right DudSpud(tm)?

Rasmussen is usually more accurate than the others. See the trend here:

Bullshit. Rasmussen is one of the worst, least reliable and most obviously biased polls out there.

Hillary is an empty pantsuit

Unless you count the Depends undergarment she wears underneath that, much like th ecandidate herself is TOTALY FULL OF SHIT.

RCP Average 03/13 - 03/21 - 44.6 45.9 6.2 McCain +1.3
Rasmussen Tracking 03/18 - 03/21 1700 LV 41 49 10 McCain +8.0
Gallup Tracking 03/17 - 03/21 4377 RV 44 46 4 McCain +2.0
FOX News 03/18 - 03/19 900 RV 43 44 13 McCain +1.0
CBS News 03/15 - 03/18 RV 48 43 6 Obama +5.0
CNN 03/14 - 03/16 950 RV 47 46 1 Obama +1.0
USA Today/Gallup 03/14 - 03/15 685 LV 49 47 3 Obama +2.0
Reuters/Zogby 03/13 - 03/14 1004 LV 40 46 -- McCain +6.0

Up until very recently (read that: Before the electronic lynching of Obama) Obama was kicking both Hillary and McCains ass quite handily. Obama's numbers have started turning around again as more and more people see the con job that's being pulled on them and rejecting it.

Long time till November, chuckleheads.

McCain is a 71 year old PTSD case with rage issues and a brain that is melting into goo as we speak. If the American electorate decides he's a better candidate than Obama in November Spud will stop posting for a month.

Spud would say "I'd eat my hat" but Spud don't have a hat.

Be Well.

"Ok, Hillary haters..why why WHY..."

well... i do admire your passion.
i, at least at this juncture, hate none of the candidates as i'm worn out by hating bush & company. try as he does to destroy this country, he's failed (thus far) to do so.
and i've found that the hatred has only made an impact on me... not w.
so where's hillary in all of this.
look at the above posts on lies... and they ARE valid.
her switching stances on nafta... shame on her for not realizing that the media has access to videotapes. that same media, for some reason, fails to do the same challenge to bush, cheney and co.
her ambition also bothers me... perhaps because she is SO obvious about it. it makes me wonder.
i've spoken with some high ranking dem officials, at least one super delegate, who love and admire hillary... they haven't moved me... i doubt that anyone could.
people can always find a reason to hate... it sometimes seems as though it is a human requirement. in politics, at least, it appears to be.

i was having a bit of a time in trying to figure out who to vote for until i realized that my vote doesn't matter in any way.
i live in az.
this state is going for mccain.
end of story.
end of my vote.
and so it goes.


all the best

www.realclearpolitics.com

You have to look at the agregates to make any sense of the current polling data.

If Spud was a disingenuous shill like Jester then Spud might come here and say that the ABC/NYT times poll is the best indicator.

That one has Obama over McCain nationally by 12 points.

See how this works?

Be Well.

/Outtie fer a bit
stage left.

was having a bit of a time in trying to figure out who to vote for until i realized that my vote doesn't matter in any way.
i live in az.
this state is going for mccain.
end of story.
end of my vote.
and so it goes.


all the best

Posted by sense

That is sad as Americans that we have to feel this way. I live in CA, which could go to McCain this time too, because the democrats are so divided, and they will not come together (way too many bad feelings on both sides to unite at this point). Too bad we can't just go by popular vote.

"Come on now...the DudSpud(tm) opinion is so vital....."fuck em', fuck em' with a stick". Right DudSpud(tm)?"

DeadPutz lost it long ago. Personally, I think he should take a sabbatical and write the great Amer....er, ah, the great Canadian novel. He could have BuffyBob proof it for him and get Redneckville to publish it.

(way too many bad feelings on both sides to unite at this point).

That would be the fault of people like you.

Next time save the kitchen sink for the republican opposition, not your own party, nitwit.

Next time save the kitchen sink for the republican opposition, not your own party, nitwit.

Posted by Alexandrite

sorry twit, but the democrats are NOT my party--official Independent.

Insults aside, I ask you to look at your post history and recognize the Scorched Earth in them. You and others like you have damaged your own party.

Possibly beyond repair.

You're a hillary shill, "clintonisking" Everyone here holds you in the same regard they do corky, and for the same reason: If there's an Obama pile on you're one of the first there.

I love it. A guy named CLINTONISKING is gonna tell me he's not a democrat? ROFLMAO! Priceless.

"If Spud was a disingenuous shill like Jester then Spud might come here and say that the ABC/NYT times poll is the best indicator.

That one has Obama over McCain nationally by 12 points.

See how this works?"

DeadPutz IS A DISENGENUOUS SHILL, and an IMPOTENT shill as well...LOL. His angst is understandable once one realizes the prick can't do anything but post BS on the DR. Can't vote, can't answer polls, can't contribute to campaigns (legally, at least.) He can only cry, whine, plead, lambast and attempt to impress folks with his literary "skills"...LOL. IMPOTENT, that's what he is an impotent crybaby wannabe.


"Rasmussen Reports' Election 2006 coverage has been praised for its accuracy and reliability. Michael Barone, Senior Writer for U.S. News & World Report and co-author of The Almanac of American Politics, mentions, "One clear lesson from the Republican victory of 2004 and the Democratic victory of 2006 is that the best place to look for polls that are spot on is RasmussenReports.com." And University of Virginia Professor Larry Sabato states, "In election campaigns, I've learned to look for the Rasmussen results. In my experience, they are right on the money. There is no question Rasmussen produces some of the most accurate and reliable polls in the country today."

Rasmussen Reports was also the nation's most accurate polling firm during the 2004 Presidential election and the only one to project both Bush and Kerry's vote total within half a percentage point of the actual outcome."

was. not anymore. changed 3 wks ago. lou dobbs is right--independent is the way to go for the future.

Whhhaaaaaaaaaaaa....another person who's an Independent and I, I, I, just don't buy it. So I'm going to cry.

Alexis

For awhile all this non-stop bickering and arguing and back and forth between the candidates was driving me nuts but now I think it's good. We need to feel out ALL the candidates, watch them handle situations under fire, and get all these questions and opinions out in the open before the election in '08.

It's healthier to air things out before the election like we are doing now than just having two candidates already "chosen" by their respective party elites with no real opposition to either one.

Let the slug fests continue!

What I'd really like to see is some heavy opposition to McCain from another Republican candidate. McCain has been allowed to just sail thru all the primaries relatively unchallenged and unscathed. McBush needs to be vetted -- and vetted hard.


Ok, Hillary haters..why why WHY...can't Barry pull ahead out of the margin of error and WHY can't he win the big blue states over Hillary? Because half of us see him for what he is--an empty suit. And it will be proved to you in November when McCain wins. (and please, before answering, try and open your eyes and be honest)

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-23 02:17 PM | Reply


I always go with my gut reaction to people. No one is perfect, politicians even less so, but I agree with her on a majority of things. I know it's crazy, but I basically trust her. I feel the same way about John McCain, so will have no problem voting for him. Obama...I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. We know little about him, and every thing I find out makes me like/trust him less.

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-22 12:32 PM | Reply

Different does not equal good. And no, he is not going to get my vote no-way-no-how-no bama.

Walt--Huckabee could be the VP choice...younger and more conservative than McCain. I am sure he is on the short-list. But I know you will hate me now, but I am a Hillary supporter. Don't think it will get me anywhere, though...:)

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-22 11:41 AM | Reply

November looks like McCain, since the democrats are destroying each other. A lifelong democrat, I changed my party affiliation to independent. Obamamania is the scariest thing to happen since 2000 when we elected Bush the first time. It is very "hitleresque" in the fact that he says nothing and people feel so hopeless they will follow anything.

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-22 07:19 AM | Reply

ANAL-ysts is more like it...damage control was all it was, and didn't work...check out the latest polls...slipping big time...
NO-BAMA 08!!!

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-19 07:36 PM | Reply


Go Obama! 2008!

Posted by Unclesam


Go Hillary! 2008
(if not, Go McCain! 2008)

NObama! 2008

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-17 05:03 AM | Reply



SHILL! People like you ARE killing your own party. You can change to "independent" all you want, but nice job flushing dynamite down the DNC toilets ont he way out, fool. YEAH, let's get mccain in the white house! WHOOO!

Idiot.

as long as Obama loses, I don't care who wins!!!!


Whhhaaaaaaaaaaaa....another person who's an Independent and I, I, I, just don't buy it. So I'm going to cry.

Alexis

Posted by ride_on at 2008-03-23 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:


I've been indy since 1997. Guess what? I didn't blast the crap out of the frontrunner of my former party on the way out.
Because as much as I dislike Democrat politicians, they aren't as bad as most republicans, and I'd rather the country didn't get screwed because I had a temper tantrum.

Clintonisking would rather have McCain as POTUS than Obama. I guess he likes having troops in Iraq...

And what is it with you right wingers? Every time someone disagrees you pull out the "whining/crying" card.

SO SORRY I don't believe a guy named "CLINTONISKING" became a registered independent.(then didnt change handles) But if you weren't interested in trolling me, ride_on...you'd agree.

Ok, Hillary haters..why why WHY...can't Barry pull ahead out of the margin of error and WHY can't he win the big blue states over Hillary?

Lets See, Obama Was Ahead The Beginning Of Month By 9 Points, Went And Took The Wright Hits Went Down By 7 Points To Clinton And Now Today Is Up By 3 Points. This Prior To Obama Getting Richardson's Endorsement,Clinton's Bosnia Bullshit, And The NAFTA Lies Have Been Exposed.

Lets Be Honest A Chimpanzee Registered A A Democrat Could Win Massachusetts, New York, And California. Now By The End Of The Month Texas Will Be Obama's With Total Delegates. So As Hillary Stated, "It Is Not The States But The Delegates" or is it what ever she says it is that does not make her look so Damn Desperate ?

-Sarge


as long as Obama loses, I don't care who wins!!!!

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-23 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

And yet you left the democratic party because it was too divided, eh? LOL!

It's divided exactly because of selfish little shills like yourself.(if my candidate can't win Im gonna hold my breath until I turn blue!) Whenever the left gets ahead in this country, people like you shoot it's toes off and hand victory to the right.

Be proud of your legacy of failure.

CLINTONISKING

was. not anymore. changed 3 wks ago. lou dobbs is right -- independent is the way to go for the future.

Good for you! I became a registered independent -- a "Lou Dobbs independent" -- almost 2 years ago.

Did you know about 40% of newly registered voters are now registering as independents? "Independents" are now the fastest growing group of voters in the country. Millions have left the Republican and Democrat parties and are instead re-registering instead as "independents." They are fed up with both those other parties.br />

no need to change handles when I still admire Bill.

McCain = Bush = never forget that.

Chris, both parties suck. We have 3 people running that are all bad choices. Maybe if a 3rd party catches on, the nominee will be someone not bought and paid for by one group or another.

What you're doing is ridiculous, clintonisking.(anyone but obama)

It's like quitting your job because the building isn't up to fire safety standards. Then throwing a molotov cocktail on your way out.

You can say "all 3 suck" all you want, but you've been a constant shill for hillary, to the point of hoping McCain will win if your precious candidate doesn't get the nod. Nice way to stamp your feet and ruin the party.

True, Hillary is my first choice of the 3, but she has no chance. Got to go for my 2nd choice--McCain.


no need to change handles when I still admire Bill.

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-23 03:10 PM | Reply | Flag

Yes, it's very classy the way Clinton is the first ex POTUS to attack the leading nominee of his own party. Way to secure your legacy, bill!

The clintons have always been willing to play dirty and screw anyone in their way, even supposed allies. Well, bill is at it AGAIN, and like last time, it will cost hillary more votes.

Clintonisking

I keep hoping Lou Dobbs will change his mind and run in '08 -- enough people are asking him to. But so far, it doesn't seem he will. You're right -- all three candidates -- all just "good ol' boy D.C. Senators -- are a pathetic choice out of a country with over 300 million people. The last thing we need is to have to choose from only 3 people all part of the "Senators Club." I'm afraid it will all come down again to our nation being run by pure corporate power who will dictate who is President and what the next President does and does not do -- even including our foreign policy.

DO NOT vote for McCain. You liked what Bush has done to our nation? Then just put McCain in office and you'll have more of the same -- not to mention a new war with Iran.

Chris, both parties suck

And now we find common ground. Bill and Hill are the main reason I left the dems in 97. In 2000 I voted for McCain and Gore(it's legal to do that here) because that was the best choices we had at the time for the country. Voted for Gore in 2000 presidential election, but we all know how that worked out.

And I don't blame diebold for his loss. I blame him running a bad campaign, picking lieberman for VP, the MSM giving bush a pass on being an idiot, and bill's scandal stink. Diebold did screw the voters, but Gore had no business letting Bush get that close to victory.

CLINTONISKING,

You State You "Trust Clinton"

Please Explain These:

Hillary Clinton channels Karl Rove

www.youtube.com

Liar Flip Flopper Evil witch Hillary Clinton on NAFTA

www.youtube.com

Bill Clinton vs. Hillary Clinton on Experience

www.youtube.com

Hillary Clinton's Opposing Statements on Iraq War

www.youtube.com

So If You Could Please Explain How You Can trust Her ?

Could it Be You Meant That You Know You "CAN'T" Trust Her Makes You feel Comfortable ?


-Sarge

Diebold did screw the voters, but Gore had no business letting Bush get that close to victory.

Posted by Alexandrite


I agree. Gore ran a bad campaign, but not as bad as Kerry (that choice was a shock in 04)..I think Edwards would have had a better chance. If we could only see what might have been..

Chris, I would vote for Lou in a heartbeat..now that is what we need. But sorry, I either vote McCain or just sit this one out--cannot and will not vote for Obama

And I don't blame diebold for his loss.

(and in the same paragraph) Diebold did screw the voters,.....

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-03-23 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

MUST you continuously prove you are a crying and whining?

I'm not crying at all. Florida was a mess.

It didn't cost Gore the election, he did. BUT the voters in florida got screwed over just the same.

You're a worthless troll, ride_on...and a stupid one, unable to make simple distinctions using reading comprehension.

WOB.

Pathetic:

www.drudge.com

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-03-23 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

MUST you continuously prove you are a crying and whining?

Posted by ride_on


He is not whining--he is passionate about his beliefs. We don't agree on this subject, but I am sure we see eye to eye on many things.


My gut tells me she won't quit unless Obama wins PA outright. Other than that, she'll hold on until the convention.

Posted by argh
============
I believe that Obama is making a mistake by conceding the state to Hillary. She has no money and is letting her surrogates campaign for her. Here in the Northeast the media is giving her a pass on critisism under the mistaken idea that she is one of us. For gods sake Hillary was not born here nor did she go to school here. Outside of some distant family ties she has no roots here and it should be made public. I hear people say they are voting for Hillary because she is from Scranton. SHE IS NOT!
All Obama needs to do is narrow the gap and he can do this most effectively by getting interviewed with the local media. Western Pa although conservative isn't allowed to cross vote and muddy the waters like Ohio and Texas. The democrats out west are sensitive to NAFTA and the truth needs to get out there if it hasn't already. His last ditch to overcome is Philadelphia and even though Rendell is pushing for Hillary the area is almost 50%african american. This area is also sensitive to trade and NAFTA. Obama has everything to gain here and can really shut it down for Hillary.



My gut tells me she won't quit unless Obama wins PA outright. Other than that, she'll hold on until the convention.

Could be, things that might dictate a change after an inconclusive PA include an Obama endorsement from Gore coupled with a future funding threat from the DNC. I really doubt this will go until the convention. There are only so many favors FOB's can call in.

My gut tells me unless other forces are applied a loss in PA will be ignored by Hillary. She seems to be on course to a scorched earth campaign. If that is the presumption McSame could have an outside shot. It would play perfectly unto what the Repubs have been saying about her for years.

I have nothing against Hillary or her policy. I just Still think her unelectable. Get over it and move on. She can probably be the Senator from NY till doomsday.


Hillary is an empty pantsuit,

Posted by anton at 2008-03-23 02:31 PM | Reply

Nt with those thunder thighs! Hillary! can't wear coduroy because the friction might cause spontaneous combustion.

spontaneous combustion

Now that's funny.

The hit job the media has done on Obama via Rev. Wright is totally disgusting:

. . .it's obvious why the ABC News editors would deem a line such as "America's chickens are coming home to roost" as newsworthy. But how did they decide that most of what came immediately after that line was irrelevant. Would most Americans not have responded in a different way if they had then heard Wright say:

Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador [Edward Peck] said that y'all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don't have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.

Rev Wright was telling his congregation, pay attention to this white man, Edward Peck. It's worth listening to what he has to say. It's worth taking into consideration the opinion of a man who had been the Deputy Director of the White House Task Force on Terrorism under President Ronald Reagan, former Deputy Coordinator, Covert Intelligence Programs at the State Department, U.S. Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq (1977-1980), and a 32-year veteran of the Foreign Service. At least, as far as Rev Wright was concerned, Edward Peck was worth listening to and that's what he told his congregation.


warincontext.org

When you tell half the story, you tell a lie. So much for fair and balanced on any of the network or cable channels. What is so disturbing is that some folks still believe Hillary when she says the media is too soft on Obama and too hard on her.



What is so disturbing is that some folks still believe Hillary when she says the media is too soft on Obama and too hard on her.
-GAL_TUESDAY


Interesting but I hope a shallow group of Corky's, I believe Hillary doesn't understand her own poisoned well. It's not her own fault but it exists none the less. Whether she will except the facts as fate has determined is the question.

"Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador [Edward Peck] said that y'all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don't have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.

Rev Wright was telling his congregation, pay attention to this white man, Edward Peck. It's worth listening to what he has to say. It's worth taking into consideration the opinion of a man who had been the Deputy Director of the White House Task Force on Terrorism under President Ronald Reagan, former Deputy Coordinator, Covert Intelligence Programs at the State Department, U.S. Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq (1977-1980), and a 32-year veteran of the Foreign Service. At least, as far as Rev Wright was concerned, Edward Peck was worth listening to and that's what he told his congregation."

2:50 on in this video you clearly hear him attribute the lengthy quote the "Chickens are coming home to roost..Hiroshima, etc" was taken from FoxNews the day before:

Wright quotes Amb. Edward Peck: 2:50 and on in this video

Rev. Wright has gotten a bad rap and the people who have maligned him will never be able to live it down. Some people look for any excuse to cry fowl, what's interesting to me is that many of these people promoting these untruths claim themselves to be "christians"--go figure. It's par for the course with the so-called religious right

Just as importantly is the different standard these people want to try to hold Obama to concerning religious supporters. Have they checked themselves and their supporters recently RW pastors--Hagee, Parsley, Falwell, Dobson etc? Give me a break!


Having stated all of that, it appears as I suspected this strategy is not going to work. I truly believe all of this will backfire on FOX, CNN, ABC, & NBC. People are smarter than what the media gives them credit for and the truth will come out, not even the media can stop that. It's already happening.

Where does FOX new think this will leave them in terms of an Obama administration. I can tell you it won't be the same cozy relationship they have with the current administration. Praise Jesus!!!!

Where does FOX new think this will leave them in terms of an Obama administration. I can tell you it won't be the same cozy relationship they have with the current administration. Praise Jesus!!!!

Posted by slbow43
=============
Just to be fair I don't know if anyone caught it but I watched Fox on Friday morning and Chris Wallace blasted those three idiots for dumping for two hours on Barack. It was live and unbelievable.
Watch it here.

www.youtube.com

Next time save the kitchen sink for the republican opposition, not your own party, nitwit.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-03-23 02:51 PM | Reply


and today on fox news sunday....gov rendale and richardson said it over and over.....the dems have to win they have to win they have to win.

sounds like party over country to me or at leat that would be ringing all over the site if I had said something like this.......

and I agree with a comment from the clinton campaign that this bump in the polls was because the obama guy took a comment from blowjob and turned it into something it wasnt. I dont think Ihave to remind anyone of my disdain for bill but the comment he made that the obama campaign went off on just didnt seem like it was what they made it out to be and thus took some heat off of barry obama's hatefull and rascists preacher.

Where does FOX new think this will leave them in terms of an Obama administration

what difference does it make. this supposedly great man who will join us all together is too much of a pussy to go on fox news sunday which is tame compared to others.....what is the great black hope scared of.confrontation with someone who might ask questons he doesnt want to answer.
and when you start typing all of the nonsense about fox news, my answer will be so the hell what?
there are still millions people watching it that he says he can unite and if he doesnt have the balls to sit with chris wallace, what kind of ass kissing will he have iran and other terrorists that he says he can talk to.
if he is truely wanting to unite us all then MAN UP barry and get on that show or shut up the bullshit about yes we can or change or hope for the future...

and oh yeah...hillary has been on there a couple of times and has always been pretty forthright and has been treated pretty well......but I guess she has bigger balls than this prettyboy who is too chicken to answer questions.

Who the fuck cares what the Australian criminal and his network get? Fuck Rupert.

thanks jo....when you are on the other side, I know that I am on the right track but look at it this way.
there are millions of people watching fox news sunday.......well a considerable amount anyway and by refusing to go on, this great bringer of peace and harmony and all peoples together is telling them that he doesnt give a shit about them and that he is just SCARED.......thats a real good endorsement of a president.

I wouldn't want to be in the same room as Bill Kristol. Afraid I'd catch whatever made him a moron who's been wrong on everything so far.

So, I wouldn't go near FoxNews either.

and if thats the case, and I believe you, then what in the hell do you have the screen name americanunity.
dissing and ignoring and telling a huge segment of the american population that you dont give a shit about them is certainly not unifying which brings me back to a comment from another thread...obama and dems have no intention of unifying anything. they just want to take us back to the land of chronkite where libs said something and we took it......but those days are long gone.

I continue to blog here about Hillary. I think when nothing is at steak she is a fine person however she has made this race for the nomination personal, and is doing more harm to future women that will be running for president. She does not care what she does outside of her own ambitions. She is not the kind of President I want and many people are begaining to see her dream slip away. She will I fear fight this to the very end forcing the convention to rip apart.

What I'd really like to see is some heavy opposition to McCain from another Republican candidate. McCain has been allowed to just sail thru all the primaries relatively unchallenged and unscathed. McBush needs to be vetted -- and vetted hard.

Posted by CalifChris


When Billary comes to and gets out of the race we will tee off on McBush big time.... we can be sure he has an ocean of dirty laundry.

(Aside from debates, where a few of the important issues are discussed, the campaigns are about 95% mud fight).

This is the only way Obama can justify his Iraq position (& something I've been saying since the beginning ~ nice to see it back in fashion:>)


Iraq: a conflict arising from the emergence of China?
A Canadian academic turned journalist argues that China was at the forefront of US thinking on Iraq
March 19, 2008 12:02 PM

blogs.guardian.co.uk


an asian writer, though...

BL2

It's abundantly clear after the last 12 years, and especially since the primary season started, that the NeoCon's are people I have no wish to unite with as they have no interest in a United States.

If they'd all move to Idaho the rest of us would stand a chance of uniting.

I respect many Republicans - those who are honest and call a spade a spade while refraining from demonizing most Americans as unpatriotic and unAmerican.

But, the hatemongers are people I'd rather have go live somewhere else. When they call me and hundreds of others traitors for being right about Iraq, and constantly bash the 'other side' for meaningless bullshit without giving a good reason why they did such a good job when they DID get total power, I have no respect for them or their sheep.

The results of their bullshit is that we have a completely divided nation. The Dems and good Republicans didn't have a thing to do with it.

Make that hundreds of MILLIONS of others they bash as unpatriotic and unAmerican.

I call the NeoCons ridiculous, dangerous, and inept.

The facts of our current situation - heavy debt, world scorn, mired in Iraq - proof

But, the hatemongers are people I'd rather have go live somewhere else.

Says the guy that posts attack threads. Hypocrite must be stitched on to your his and his towel sets.

i love it, love it, love it!!! this number of dems, that number of dems will switch their vote to mccain if their candidate loses the dem nomination. obama spouts change, hope, euphoria, but says his grandmama is a typical white person, to me, typical says most, majority, all them crackers. ah, what a bigot he be and to his own peoples, well half anyway.

mccarthy-esque speeches from the 1st(and dont you forget it, barack) black president. is he trying to kill he campaign?

i see another typical democratic politician is being indicted, hmm when will the new gov of new york be indicted for using campaign funds to spread his seed?

I don't hate Hillary.
I don't have Obama.

I hate what's left to choose from.

Someone said there were better choices in the House and Senate to choose from for President, with better creditials and experience, than Hillary.

But, they ain't running for office.

The same goes for Barack.

We are being handed two choices that lack a lot.
But, these are the choices.

The ones people would have wanted didn't win the popularity contest.

That is what this is. Yes, we want something in a President. Something that screams "a good choice".

Instead, we have a choice between something we really don't want and something we not quite sure is good or bad, but he seems pretty good.

The old school mascot is running for the Repub's.
Just not interested in an old inmate to run the asylum.

I'm interested in a full overhaul of the entire Congress - not just the WH.

So, three choices are resolving around and they aren't really great. There's a stench that exists, and it's coming from Congress, too.

We are just too stupid of a people. We will bicker and fight over a leader, when the 500+ fools will be re-elected despite their failures - and they are greater than these three put together.

Obama will certainly get the Democratic nod, but his path to the Whitehouse will prove to be much more difficult.

The Rezko trial will be in full swing soon and many in both the Chicago media as well as national media feel Obama's name will be brought up early and often during the trial. Just having his name connected with Rezko's over and over again will be a huge negative for him. Of course Obama will state that he didnt know about Rezko, but come on. Obama's home is right next door to Rezko's property....coincidence, I think not.

The Rep's will question over and over again, his relationships with his Pastor and Rezko. Either he is lying or he makes really poor choices. Either way, both negative. The Clinton camp was afraid to drill down on these 2 relationships because of their own skeleton's.

if he is truely wanting to unite us all then MAN UP barry and get on that show or shut up the bullshit about yes we can or change or hope for the future...

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-03-24 12:18 AM

You sound angry....I don't blame Obama for NOT going on a station that has blatantly distorted most everything they have ever reported about a democrat to ginny favor with the GOP. Case and point--their hideous reporting of Rev. Wright. If you want to talk with him and any other Democrat as far as I am concerned then be more responsible in your reporting. They aren't the only game in town and I for one am glad the Democratic candidates decided to shut them the hell out during the primary season. I see more to come from Obama's administration. Sink that damn irresponsible network. You're suppose to report the news not "make the news".

The results of their bullshit is that we have a completely divided nation. The Dems and good Republicans didn't have a thing to do with it.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

my statement stands. its the height of ego and bullshit to actually tell someone that you are going to unite the country and then you refuse to even speak to someone who has a program that millions of people watch every sunday and get ALL SIDES OF ISSUES.

slbow....you obviously have never seen fox news sunday. it is not on the 24/7 fox channel. its on the local fox affiliate and EVERY ISSUE HAS both sides...for the past couple of sundays they have had a spokesman for the obama and clinton campaigns and little if any on mccain. now you can say thats because mccain is in but its like that all the time. one of the most frequent guests on that show is chucky schumer and I know what I am talking about because I NEVER miss a sunday morning show.
and the 'roundtable' is the most diverse of ANY SUNDAY MORNING SHOW...andI know what I am talking about because I watch all of them every sunday.

and I am sure that many of you are some of the same people who attacked my president because he didnt speak at the naaLcp
meetings. and you can say that he shouldnt go there because no one watching will vote for him BUT again.....this is how he is going to 'unite' us by refusing to even amswer questionS>>>>>>>>>>>

thats unbelievably wrong from even the most leftists liberal.

suppose mccain said he wasnt going on cnn......most of you would scream out all sorts of insults and you and we know it.

"thats unbelievably wrong from even the most leftists liberal."

Are you admitting it was "unbelievably wrong" for Bush not to speak to the NAACP?

and have many of you read the latest story about obama...well it may not be the latest but its the latest one I have read.
it seems that after the original immigration bill came out and WE THE PEOPLE OF ALL SIDES ROSE UP AND REMINDED THEM THAT WE THE PEOPLE ARE REALLY IN CHARGE.....it seems that after all the work was done and the senators were on thier way to the press conference, obama asked if he could go and he got on the mic and took credit for helping to draft the bill.
its in a story from the washington post written by murray and weisman. there are also parts of story about hillary and nafta but the main part is about obama LIEING to people telling them that he was a part of it.
here is the quote of his from the conference.
"I want to cite lyndsey graham,sam brownback, mel martinez,ken salazar, MYSELF,dick durbin, joe lieberman...who've had to wake up early to try to hammmer this stuff out"
also from the story
for staff memebers who have been arriving at 7am for weeks, it was a gallig moment. those morning sessions at attracked 3 to 4 senators a side, each deeply involved in the issue.
OBAMA was not one of them.
a minor deal and not worthy of the news??? I dont know, but it does show something into his experience as a senator and WHAT ELSE THE HELL DOES HE HAVE TO RUN ON???????????

any comments?

leno.......funniest blowjob billy joke...maybe ever.

he was talking about bibical references in the campaign and he said that clinton was named jonah because he had been swallowed by the whale...
funny...FUNNY....some of you I will have to explain it to you later....but then YOU WILL LAAAAAUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHHHH

oops.....a little confusing, wasnt it? I am just exhausted....had to work an hour and a half today.....whew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
meant that it was wrong for obama to not show up because its fox news sunday. again, its not hannity or orielly.

In a somewhat related topic I would like to know why the media keeps reporting that HRC won Texas when you add the primary and cacaus delagates together Obama cam out of Texas with more pledged delegates??????

because the dems are fucked up and have a silly way of doing primaries. shows how they run things because its fucked up BUT they FEEL real good about it.

"The Rezko trial will be in full swing soon and many in both the Chicago media as well as national media feel Obama's name will be brought up early and often during the trial. "

Posted by ChiTownGuy

Perhaps in the opening statement or closing statement, but not during the trial. Unless it is relevant to the questioning, the lawyer isn't going to tank the case by throwing Obama's name around.

Also, throwing it about in opening and closing statements may not be a great idea either. The jury may not want to hear Obama's name if there isn't a reason for it in the case.

Since when do Democrats use a democratic process to elect a presidential nominee?

not like people actually choose, they need their handlers to do it for them


Fvck this process, the HillBillys can manipulate this country with political inbreeding.

And you thought you were free....welcome to the NEw America brought to you by 12 years of GHW Bush 8 Years of Billy Clint, 8 more years of Gee Dubyah and now 8 more years of Hillbilly.

You know who you are, your dems and repubs and I hate you all for being so stupid.

Oh yeah

BLT your a kunt

have a nice day!

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