German Leader Visits Israel

Oy gevalt!

This is kind of like our next president. President Obama unites and is not in the boys club like the other 3.

Go Obama.

And the 6 million jews number of dying in ovens & whatnots has been significantly reduced, but not in Germany...there if one suggests that point of view ~ one may go to jail!

Ilya Ehrenberg - The Man
Who Invented The 'Six Million'
2-3-7

He was a prolific writer, celebrated author of various novels and other works of fiction. He was the top Soviet propagandist during the Second World War. He was a notorious liar and a pathological monster. He was a Jew.

As a a leading member of the Soviet-sponsored Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee, Ilya Ehrenburg appeared at fund-raising rallies in the United States, raising support for the Communist cause while displaying fake bars of soap allegedly manufactured by the Germans from the corpses of dead Jews.

But Ehrenburg was perhaps most notorious for his viciously anti-German hate propaganda in World War II. In it, he exhorted Soviet troops to kill all Germans they encountered without pity.*

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This is more than a "highly symbolic visit".

Merkel is going to the mountain as a gesture of obeisance, not only to Israel, but to Cheney/Bush and their mideast plans. I'm guessing, if Congress lets them get away with it, Cheney wil have his way with Iran; it will be bombed this summer. Merkel tacitly approved last fall; with this trip, she's totally caving in.

All this, and the economy going to hell.

"And the 6 million jews number of dying in ovens & whatnots has been significantly reduced, but not in Germany...there if one suggests that point of view ~ one may go to jail!"

Isn't liberal western style democracy just great? And then we bitch and complain about Turkey, for example, when the go after people for suggesting there was an Armenian genocide.

Good thing Obama's pastor doesn't live in Germany or Turkey, or else some would be calling for him to be put in prison too.

Good thing Obama's pastor doesn't live in Germany or Turkey, or else some would be calling for him to be put in prison too.

Posted by member2586

Or Israel if he mentions Tutu's quote:

"I am a black South African, and if I were to change the names, a description of what is happening in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank could describe events in South Africa."
~Archbishop Desmond Tutu

axisoflogic.com

Merkel, 53, Germany's first chancellor to be born after World War Two, will address the 120-member Knesset, or parliament, on Tuesday, in German.

One legislator, Arieh Eldad of the right-wing National Union party, threatened to walk out of the session after a parliamentary committee voted overwhelmingly to give Merkel special dispensation to speak.

Wowsers, now that's bitterness, right there.

Apparently her gift of the complete recordings of Richard Wagner did not go over so well for some reason.

Be Well.

One legislator, Arieh Eldad of the right-wing National Union party, threatened to walk out of the session after a parliamentary committee voted overwhelmingly to give Merkel special dispensation to speak.

That's a man with an agenda right there.

Maybe Germany should ask for its reparations back.

No,if they did that Bush/McBush would just make up the difference with money borrowed from China.

Bani

The laws in Germany prevent scumbag liars like you from spewing out your little racist anti semitic rants marginalizing what actually happened so in time, perhaps it can all be one giant blur, and then if your ilk gets its way, you think you can convince everyone it never happened at all? Not likely

PS - Jeff Rense is about as credible a source as Stormfront.net ... but I guess to you both serve your purpose here.

She's just paying it forward for W's backrub

"Merkel is going to the mountain as a gesture of obeisance, not only to Israel, but to Cheney/Bush and their mideast plans."

Really?
Did you think that up all by yourself or did someone help you?

Merkel has always been a great friend of Israel and since she's been leading Germany nothing has changed. She continues to support the Jewish State which consists of those million Jews and their descendants who were thrown out of the surrounding Arab countries post 1948 after living in communities that predated Mohammed, and those few Jews who managed to survive Germany's Nazi era which murdered almost half the living Jewish population.

Germany and the Jews are forever bound together as a result of what happened and rightfully so given the monumental loss European Jewry suffered as a result of government policy.

"Did you think that up all by yourself or did someone help you?"

The former.

This summer will tell. I hope, for your sake and mine, that I'm wrong.

Europe needs to cut off Aid and fast to Israel. We have got to stop feeding this terrorist nation.

I'm glad to see that Merkel is trying to improve Germany's relations with Israel...It will get even more difficult for Israel if they give up more land. I think they should slow the settlement machine down for a bit and use it as a bargaining chip like the terrorist use their violence.

the monumental loss European Jewry suffered as a result of government policy.

Yes and no. All you are talking about is territory known as Germany.

The current German government has nothing to do with the Holocaust or Nazi policies. In fact, if you consider the European's role in assisting the Nazi occupiers and the west's "none is too many" jewish immigration policies of the 1930's, they are guiltier than Merkel's government, if only because they are still essentially the same government as before the war.
It would be like blaming the US for British colonial sins pre 1776.

Bani

The laws in Germany prevent scumbag liars like you from spewing out your little racist anti semitic rants marginalizing what actually happened so in time, perhaps it can all be one giant blur, and then if your ilk gets its way, you think you can convince everyone it never happened at all? Not likely

PS - Jeff Rense is about as credible a source as Stormfront.net ... but I guess to you both serve your purpose here.

Posted by Saint

The Saint is back!

And who owns the privately owned Fed again? Stormfront? Rense? Rothschilds? Israel? Rockerfellers? Jung?:>)

The Buck Stops Where?
In the credit market panic that began in August, we have now reached the point of maximum danger: A global run on the dollar that could become a rout. As the Federal Reserve's Open Market Committee prepares to meet tomorrow, this should be its major concern.
Yet the conventional wisdom -- on Wall Street and in Washington -- continues to be precisely the opposite. In this view, the Fed is "behind the curve" and needs to cut interest rates even faster and further than it has. Never mind that this is precisely the path the Fed has followed since August, yet the crisis has grown worse and now bids to tank the larger economy. Does it make sense to do more of what isn't working?

online.wsj.com

"It is time to face facts.
There is nothing the Federal Reserve can do that will not make the problem worse. The Federal Reserve is a legal counterfeiting operation, and therefore all they can actually do is more counterfeiting! But that is what got us into this mess in the first place!

We are going to have a crash. Time to accept it and get ready for it. We are in survival mode. The banks and government are not here to take care of you. They are taking care of themselves which is why their idea of a fix is to devalue the money you are holding in order to print up a bunch of new cash to give to their buddies.

The GOOD news is that the crash will NOT last forever, and we will come out the other side with new possibilities before us. Even better, it is quite likely that a financial crash will take the debt-crippled Federal Government with it, and we will have an historic opportunity to create something a bit better. The time to plan for this is now." says M.R.

McCain...Manchurian
Candidate la Rothschild
From Elmer Lane
3-17-8

Under the headline "Lord Rothschild Backs John McCain"

The Washington Post(March 15, 2008) informs us that "Sen. John McCain plans at least one campaign event on his week-long congressional trip to Europe and the Middle East: a March 20 fundraiser in London. An invitation sent out by the campaign says the luncheon will be held at Spencer House, St. James's Place, 'by kind permission of Lord Rothschild OM GBE and the Hon Nathaniel Rothschild.' Tickets to the invitation-only event cost $1,000 to $2,300. Attire is listed as "lounge suits.
How innocent is that?
"The time to buy is when blood is running in the streets." This remark was made by an earlier Nathan Rothschild, the one who reduced the Bank of Englands gold reserves by 100,000 pounds by cahsing hundreds of small notes, almost sinking that institution because the bank would not cash his one of his larger notes. You will note that as blood has been running in Wall Street Goldman Sachs has been investing billions in its hedge funds, paying off %16 percent in just one month, "contrarian-like-a-fox" profitably buying up selected assets as share prices tumble. But the Rothschilds are also playing this game with their hedge funds. Are they placing bets which McCain will turn into sure things? Consider what is behind that question:

"Nathaniel Philip Rothschild (b. 1971), British investor, co-chairman of Atticus Capital. More than 200 years after Mayer Amschel Rothschild founded the family dynasty that offered discreet counsel and investment wisdom to kings, queens, emperors and industrial titans, his 35-year-old direct descendant, Nathaniel, has emerged as a kingmaker in his own right and an investor who some say may become the richest Rothschild of them all. In five short years, the man in line to be the fifth Baron Rothschild became close to becoming a billionaire through a web of private equity investments in Ukraine, Eastern Europe and most significant, his partnership stake in Atticus Capital, the fast-growing $14 billion hedge fund. Rothschild began his career in 1994 at Lazard Brothers Asset Management in London, before joining Gleacher Partners, the New York-based mergers and acquisitions (M&A) advisory firm founded by Eric Gleacher, former head of M&A at Morgan Stanley and Lehman Brothers. Rothschild is partner and co-chairman of Atticus Capital LLC, an international investment management firm established in 1995, that has offices in New York and London. Mr. Rothschild is also a director of RIT Capital Partners plc, and a director of The Rothschild Foundation. Rothschild is a member of the Belfer Center's International Council at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government and the International Advisory Council of the Brookings Institution. He is also a member of the International Advisory Board of the Barrick Gold Corporation. Mr. Rothschild was nominated as a "Young Global Leader" by the World Economic Forum in 2005. Among the top money makers of the world almost all of the money coming from earnings of his investment in Atticus Capital hedge fund. He is partner and co-chairman of Atticus.
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lies, too?:>)

More...:>)

"Lord Jacob Rothschild, OM GBE was born Nathaniel Charles Jacob Rothschild, the fourth Baron Rothschild. The 78 year old merchant banker is President of the Institute for Jewish Policy Research, an organization dedicated to cooperation in research, analysis and policy planning on issues affecting Jewish life worldwide. He is head of the English branch of the Rothschild family and chairman of RIT Capital Partners plc. Lord Rothschild is a member of the board of trustees of the Open Russia Foundation and serves as chairman of Yad Hanadiv, the Rothschild foundation which built and handed over to the State of Israel the buildings for both the Knesset and the Supreme Court. He is also Chairman of Rothschild Investment Trust (now RIT Capital Partners plc), an investment trust listed on the London Stock Exchange. He is a shareholder in Rothschild Continuation Holdings, the Swiss-based holding company for the Rothschild interests which has positions in many of the family businesses, including the bank N M Rothschild & Sons. From his headquarters in St James's Place in London, Jacob Rothschild has cultivated an influential set of clients, business associates and friends who have extended his interests far beyond the normal scope of a banker. He maintains strong personal and business links with Henry Kissinger. His country estate has been a regular venue for visiting heads of state including Bill Clinton. He hosted the European Economic Round Table conference in 2002, attended by such figures as James Wolfensohn, former president of the World Bank, Nicky Oppenheimer, Warren Buffett and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

"Forbes magazine poses lower ranking billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett as the richest men in the World. Retired management consultant Gaylon Ross Sr, author of Who's Who of the Global Elite, has been tipped from a private source that the combined wealth of the Rockefeller family in 1998 was approx (US) $11 trillion and the Rothschilds (U.S.) $100 trillion. A recent article in the London Financial Times indicates why it is impossible to gain an accurate estimate of the wealth of the trillionaire bankers. Discussing the sale of Evelyn Rothschild's stake in Rothschild Continuation Holdings, it states: ...[this] requires agreement on the valuation of privately held assets whose value has never been tested in a public market. Most of these assets are held in a complex network of tax-efficient structures around the World. The power of the Rothschild family was evidenced on 24 Sept 2002 when a helicopter touched down on the lawn of Waddedson Manor, their ancestral home in Buckinghamshire, England. Out of the helicopter strode Warren Buffet, - touted as the second richest man in the World but really a lower ranking player- and Arnold Schwarzenegger (the gropinator), at that time a candidate for the Governorship of California. Also in attendance at this two day meeting of the World's most powerful businessmen and financiers hosted by Jacob Rothschild were James Wolfensohn, president of the World Bank and Nicky Oppenheimer, chairman of De Beers. Arnold went on to secure the governorship of one of the biggest economies on the planet a year later. That he was initiated into the ruling class in the Rothschilds' English country manor suggests that the centre of gravity of the three hundred trillion dollar cartel is in the U.K. and Europe not the U.S. "

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Good post, Bani.

I always wondered why the Rothschilds are never listed on Forbes richest.

Real wealth has it's rewards - anonymity.