Congressman Kevorkian.

Killer!

He will fit in with the rest of the politicians.

John McCain's worst nightmare

A guy I would actually vote for.

The idea of euthanasia, while repulsive to some, allows folks who are terminally ill to choose their own terms and to go out with some dignity.

There's no reason for a person who is going to die of a serious illness to be forced to suffer through the pain they may suffer.

The only people who are really opposed to it are those who are more concerned about my mortal soul than they are about humanity.

Tip: I'll worry about whether or not I am going to spend eternity in damnation or hanging out with The Invisible Pink Unicorn. Don't you bother your pretty head over it.

A brave, principal driven life.

If joining the military specifically to go to war is not suicidal I don't know what else is. Yet many of the religious nuts who are against euthanasia are pro-military/war and think dying for one's country in a ridiculous war is perfectly fine.

Dr. K. is an authentic American hero. As much as I don't want to be pushed into the Middle East to die for Big Oil, I DO want the right to opt out of a painful existence at a time of my own choosing. herm

But what will teddy do? He won't have the most murders in congress anymore.

A brave, principal driven life.

~Nutcase

Dr. K. is an authentic American hero

~Herm.

Spud also thinks it's not up to the government to make illegal the act of making the concious, sane and rational decision to opt out of a low quality life, too painful too endure a second longer.

My body belongs to me.

Not the Government, not God. Just me.

Running as an Independent? That figures.

There's no left left in American politics. It's drifted so far to the extreme right you can barely see left anymore.

This is simple truth despite all reichwingnut talking points to the contrary.

Be Well.

"There's no left left in American politics" is the underlying truth in everything else on the DR. I shall carve it into a potato and nail it to my wall. herm

Go for it. His conviction IMO was bullshit. Everybody he assisted wanted it. They and relatives are on tape prior detailing their reasons. Some of the customers were REALLY fucked up.

As far as I'm concerned, if my quality of life is as such as some of his customers, I would choose the same course also.

I have no problem with this man.

I'd vote fer 'im.

"Dr. K. is an authentic American hero."

Damn right, Herm.

Damn right.

i'm a fan of the doctor of death!

But what will teddy do? He won't have the most murders in congress anymore.

Posted by salamandagator at 2008-03-12 07:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Awwww......what's wrong, you don't like having teddy tied with the first lady?

"If joining the military specifically to go to war is not suicidal I don't know what else is."

I'm in the military, and this statement does not make sense to me. Could you please explain what you mean by that? I didn't join to specifically "go to war" but even if I had, thats certainly not suicidal.

Either way, I agree if people choose to end their own life they should be allowed to. Government should have no role in the matter, especially the federal government and when it comes to the elderly. It's too bad he won't win because he is A) an independent and B) he has killed too many of his base.

How could ANYONE support this guy. Make no mistake I believe a person should have total control over their own bodies until such time they are deamed mentally Unstable to make decisions for themselves. What right does another have ending anothers life simply because they want it ended?? What happens when someone that is deeply depressed wants to die and hires Dr Death to help them die?? What then??

Larry Mohr

What right does another have ending anothers life simply because they want it ended??


Even though that's strictly speaking not what happens (the persond ends his own life), what more of a right does one need?

How could ANYONE support this guy. Make no mistake I believe a person should have total control over their own bodies until such time they are deamed mentally Unstable to make decisions for themselves. What right does another have ending anothers life simply because they want it ended??


For some reason, I don't find myself surprised that Larry Mohr is against assisted suicide.

For the record, Larry, Kevorkian was more of an enabler than anything else. He provided the means. The people who died, they are the ones who made the final decision. Which is how it should be.


What happens when someone that is deeply depressed wants to die and hires Dr Death to help them die?? What then??


To me, killing yourself because you are depressed is a selfish act. It is not done to find relief from physical pain. There are chemicals that can be taken to relieve some of it. There's therapy. I made it through my own depression through sheer stubbornness.

Still, if a mentally unstable person is determined to die, how would you like them to go? And what gives you the right to tell them they cannot die, they have to continue to suffer through the illness that afflicts them.

Make no mistake I believe a person should have total control over their own bodies until such time they are deamed mentally Unstable to make decisions for themselves.

It doesn't sound so from the rest of your post.. Maybe you need to spend some more time pondering this because you are conflicted.

Ahhhhh....Dems on the side of Death again....I can't figure out why they hate the Iraq War so much...seems right up their alley... Maybe because our soldiers aren't killing enough babies...Of
course, none of you want to execute proven vioent criminals, because that's cruel and unusual punishment....

Of course, it's not really the issue of the 20 or-so no-doubters that he put out of their misery, it's that you're LEGALIZING THE KILLING OF SOMEONE BY A DOCTOR!!!! Think of the inevitable abuse of that loophole, should it be sanctioned..

Once again, the understanding of how the LEGAL system works seems to be a bit beyond the grasp of you supporters. Once you ok killing someone and it's not in self-defense, but merely because they say they're having a bad day, where can you make a legal argument to draw the line. ?

Legal lines must be drawn in simple places. The simple place here is that you don't kill people unless in self-defense. THat's fairly simple, although sometimes legal problems arise from that even.

Show some sense. There's a difference between what is morally ok and what is legal. Legal considerations MUST be practical, because they set the larger pattern for what is preventable.

Free taxpayer funded suicide kits for everyone!

Signed,
Barack Obama

Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a beautiful day, I've got a beautiful feeling everythings going our way.

Signed,
The democrat party

Was Jack convicted of a felony? If so, how can he run?

Most conservatroids don't understand shit until they personally are involved, including assisted suicide.

Then it becomes crystal clear.

As far as this " Conservatoid " is concerned , you fucking libtards can kill yourselves off on a regular basis . You can also abort your babies . Only the fundies will be offended .

I hope they elect him !

Fresno,

See, you don't make public policy based on personal convenience....that's the part you're struggling with. It's the part that Democrats in general do not understand.

If doctors are legally allowed to murder people (and I have seen it done to a person I cared about), don't you see that eventually that would become commonplace? Doctors routinely murdering people? You really see that as a good idea?

Of course, those socialist Nazis saw no harm in that either.

Wake up!

spud,

sorry our left is not as crazy as your left.

Driving to an event with him would be as nerve wracking as going hunting with Cheney.

But he's got his work cut out for him if elected. Should be easy. Judging by their photos, half the congress and senate are already dead anyways.

But didn't kevorkian work for RudiG's campaign? Or was its suicide unassisted?

I do support the idea of assisted suicide but I have some concerns about its role in the US.

In most of the western world, health care is considered a right, so it's unlikely that a terminally ill patient would have to make the choice between paying for medical care vs. assisted suicide. Without the fear of loosing everything (house, assets, retirement, etc.) a patient can focus entirely on quality of life issues and not worry about the financial implications.

In the US, where health care is an expensive privilege, a terminally ill person would have to weigh the financial vs. quality of life issues. As much as I support an individuals right to end his or her life, I think it would be a travesty if somebody decided to choose assisted suicide instead of undergoing treatment to extend life for a few years, in order to protect his family from bankruptcy.

I'd vote for him.

MOST OF PEOPLE IN CONGRESS NEED HELPS...MOST OF....
HE`S THE RIGHT MEDICINE...

Jon, Crispy and hangers-on are in fine shape already today, making political hay even from the right to die. One's less rational moments:

"Dems on the side of Death again....I can't figure out why they hate the Iraq War so much...seems right up their alley... Maybe because our soldiers aren't killing enough babies...Of course, none of you want to execute proven vioent criminals, because that's cruel and unusual punishment....Of course, it's not really the issue of the 20 or-so no-doubters that he put out of their misery, it's that you're LEGALIZING THE KILLING OF SOMEONE BY A DOCTOR!!!!"

Of course he (?) adds apples and oranges, equates the termination of pregnancies with blowing up real people, equates society's legally sanctioned murder, the death penalty, with one's choice to pull the plug on the last few excruciating weeks. Even in all caps.

"... merely because they say they're having a bad day" reveals an almost criminal refusal to understand reality. No doubt he thinks that of women who must undergo late term abortions...

"Legal lines must be drawn in simple places. The simple place here is that you don't kill people unless in self-defense. THat's fairly simple, although sometimes legal problems arise from that even."

Life, Jon, is not simple. This issue may be too complex for you.

"Free taxpayer funded suicide kits for everyone!" Crispy's attempt tomake it a partisan issue. herm

Herm,

Law, by its nature, in order to get the consent of the people it pertains to, has to be simple. Life is as simple as your clarity of thought allows it to be. Murky minds make for complicated lives, and questionable ethics.

Socialists always think they can legislate a better life. This is because they think they know what's better for people than the people who would have to live under the law do.

The cases were not about whether or not people wanted to die. They did. So what? That doesn't mean it's ok for somebody to KILL them.

Herm, apples and oranges are different species of plant. Human embryos and human adults are the same species. Therefore if I kill a human embryo, I'm killing a human, not a tiger.

There's a difference legally and in reality between someone dying and someone killing them. The law is pretty clear on that. Kevorkian broke the law because he murdered people and none of them were in self-defense. It's that simple.

"Therefore if I kill a human embryo, I'm killing a human, not a tiger."

What's your position on ectopic pregnancies? How about the practice of fertility clinics regularly throwing away fertilized embryos?

"Law ...has to be simple. Life is as simple as your clarity of thought allows it to be. Murky minds make for complicated lives, and questionable ethics."

I can see the appeal that the absoluteness of conservatism has for you.

"Socialists always think they can legislate a better life. This is because they think they know what's better for people than the people who would have to live under the law do."

They probably DO know, like doctors know better how to treat your cancer than you do. Socialists - however YOU may define them - have usually gone to school ....

"The cases were not about whether or not people wanted to die. They did. So what? That doesn't mean it's ok for somebody to KILL them."

I guess that one for whom life must be simple cannot differentiate between killing and assisting someone's suicide.

"Herm, apples and oranges are different species of plant. Human embryos and human adults are the same species. Therefore if I kill a human embryo, I'm killing a human, not a tiger."

Sob! So I guess I waste my breath trying to draw humane little distinctions for you, Jon. You're not gonna get it.

"The law is pretty clear. Kevorkian broke the law; he murdered people, none in self-defense. It's that simple."

No Jon. Only for the simplest minds is it simple. Sigh!!! By no stretch of ANY imagination did either the good Dr. K or your friendly pregnancy terminator "murder" anyone herm

Danforth,

Pregnancies that significantly endanger the life of the mother easily fall under self-defense and are not, for me, controversial, although they are often tragic for the women who have to choose that. For me, as the man, it's a no-brainer. I'll pick the wife over the kid any time.

I think people will look back on the practice of fertility clinics today, where hundreds of embryos are created and maybe one or two are chosen, as putting an extremely low value on human life. No strategy that requires the deaths of 90% of the embryos to get a one or two kids is a good method.

My opinion is that they should have adopted. It is also my opinion that methods will improve so that none of these barbaric pregnancy methods will be necessary. This will be one where people scratch their heads and ask, "Did they really do that?" Kinda like we do for slavery now. It seems inconceivable...unless you don't see the slaves as humans.

Herm,

You're actually arguing that the people that are confused the most often are the smartest? Hmmm...as a teacher, I find that it's usually the smart ones who understand stuff and the dumb ones who don't....Einstein must have been one dumb fucker!

Socialist go to school...Really? Is that why they're always organizing around blue-collar labor issues? Still, you put a lot of faith in a public school system that is roundly criticized as ineffective by both right and left. Schools these days are more about indocrination than learning...Fortunately, they're not really very good at that either.

I start to understand, though, why you understood Bill Clinton's confusion over what "is" meant...damn the world is confusing!

I've got a fix, though, Herm....Just ask for AlGore's guidance! I'm feeling abandoned, though. I can't find him anywhere these days, and he's stopped speaking to me!

Have mercy on me, Great Gore! Please bring enlightenment to me and my poor confused friend, Herm!

"Human embryos and human adults are the same species. Therefore if I kill a human embryo, I'm killing a human, not a tiger."
--JONRYKER

You argue against "people" whose justification for that killing is based on an arbitrary definition of human life. You might as well bang your head against a concrete wall.

If you legalize it then people should be able to do for any reason. It shouldn't be because you are living a life in physical pain. Lost your job and your wife or child died in an accident, you want to die but can't pull the trigger then assistance should be provided. If you truly believe that assisted suicide is a right then the reason shouldn't matter. Most of the people could have put a gun in their mouths and pulled the trigger but lacked the guts to do it themselves.

Free taxpayer funded suicide kits for everyone!


It's called enlisting in Bush's military, where body armor and safe vehicles are unnecessary, because chocolates and rose petals are non-lethal and all you'll ever face.

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You argue against "people" whose justification for that killing is based on an arbitrary definition of human life.

The Bible defines life as breathing. What non arbitrary definition do you use? Given that God aborts 1/3 of babies, is God a sinner?