Xinjiang is home to 8 million Muslim Uighurs, many of whom resent the growing presence and economic grip of Han Chinese. The oil-rich region borders Pakistan, Afghanistan and Central Asia

Never heard of these folks before.

Spud is now imagine we're gonna be hearing of them again and again and again.

Oil?

Reminds Spud.

Anybody here see "There Will Be Blood"?

Good movie. Daniel Day Lewis totally rawks in it.

Spud imagines that the Chinese government is even as we speak figuring out a way to Drink these guys milkshake.

Drink it up.

So the instability in Iraq and Afghanistan has now officially spilt over into Pakistan and China?

Yipes!

Do Not Want.

Be Well.

Well if China is facing a Muslim problem like us, I'm sure they'll be extra careful not to offend the vast majority of peace & puppy loving Muslims...

Stay tuned kids... I think we're about to see how we should be fighting this war.

My God, Rob! You don't think the Chinese might even resort to sprinkling a little water on the face of a terrorist?

China - what the right wants America to be more like.

"Spending a trillion dollars and killing thousands of people, just to lose." -- The Left's version of war (Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Rwanda, etc.)

Oh, wait! Sorry, my bad! Rwanda destroyed millions of lives while Bill Clinton picked his nose. I guess that one was a freebie!

Maybe they will give these terrorists the Chinese Water Torture(waterboarding?).

I can just see ole Spudless crying his bitchy little eyes out fer those poor misunderstood terrorist. Oh the humanity of it all.

"Uighurs"

Never heard of them before. Another radical Islamic group to try and figure out.

Uighurs are the Muslim community in China. Some were invited by the then military ruler of Pakistan, Zia-ul-haq to come to Pakistan to fight soviets along with other islamists in 1980s. During the reign of the Taliban, Al-Qaida managed to regroup them along with the Chechens, Arabs and Uzbeks. They were secretly sent to china for terrorists attacks. This is how they appeared in china. Overall the Uighurs are not terrorists and they are Sunni, it is a small bunch of Sunni turned Wahabi by the Arab sheiks money in the 90s who are committing these terrorist attacks. Some of these Uighurs also live in Uromchi and they are peaceful.

Cheers,
Walt

Terrorists have one thing in common, not much military might, but their fight is about land.

I am muchly s'prised you guys have not heard of the Uighers.

Most folk in China are "Han" Chinese. But they also have many many other kinds of Chinese people. They speak their own version Chinese or a mix of Turkish and Chinese.

For example, the Uighers write their language in Arabic script (meaning I can read it... but damn if I know what it might mean).

Anyway, as you know, some people... like the Tibet people... have issues with China. The Uighers have similar issues. With the addition that they are muslim of faith and some of them weren't sure if they belonged with the Han-Chinese.

The actual problem is their isolation. They live on the other side of the Taklamakan Desert. Very very poor soil in which nothing will grow so they themselves have no economic opportunity.

But all that has changed and China has been pumping money and resources into the area so it grows as much as China's east coast area has.

As far as I know, most Uighers are now much pacified and see themselves as proud Chinese.

My interest with these folks is that they practice a form of super kung-fu.

As you know, Kung-fu and martial arts in general are Buddhist dominated in Asia. THIS martial art is Muslim dominated (called "Islamic Boxing" in China). Which means, they won't hold back their punches.. in theory.

Malay martial arts and Filipino martial arts (some if them) and Indonesian martial arts are also Muslim dominated and it shows in their being more effective.

I think they are a facinating people.

I can take a bus to China across the Himalayas and spend a day or two there in Kashgar (nearest city to Pakistan) where they can understand my language.

China has since many years, started mixing the populations about. Now there are just as many normal Chinese (Han Chinese) in Uigher and othee ethnic areas as their are these guys.

As far as I know, as China's wealth increases. more and more of their ethnic minorities are forgetting what troubled them in the first place. They are all proud to be Chinese.

Walt, Tosser and Bani

Thanks for all the interesting info on the Uighurs. Looks like I've got some reading to do.

Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication

Do you really want to argue about the existence of Al-Qaida?

Want to weigh in on this one Tosser?

Cheers,
Walt

Don't thank me too much CC, I got most of my info from my Afghani counterpart.

They were secretly sent to china for terrorists attacks. This is how they appeared in china.



As far as we know, there was only one guy that China said is wanted and hiding in Afghanistan.

Mushi.. using Pakistani troops... captured him and sent him to China where he was jailed ... probably executed by now.

Even implying that the Uighers are terrorists of some sort is beyond stupid. That is exactly like saying that the Dalai Lama is a terrorist (no, he is just an asshole).

Tosser,

Don't get spun up. Re-read my post.

Even implying that the Uighers are terrorists of some sort is beyond stupid. That is exactly like saying that the Dalai Lama is a terrorist (no, he is just an asshole).

Posted by Tosser

ff & thanks for your imput on the famous Uighers:>)

Want to weigh in on this one Tosser?


Al-Qaeda?

They are basically dead. We killed Al-Qaeda. If it were still any good, they would've done something spectacular by now... maybe not in USA, but they could've certainly made some impressive move inside Pakistan by now.

The fact that they haven't (depite threatening to do so) means they are only loud-mouths. Making threatening videos is not good enough.

It is only Dubya who keeps scaring people with stories of Al-Qaeda.

Yes, there are plenty of Taliban... but they are a stupid people who can be turned.

Don't get spun up. Re-read my post.


Sorry... I posted that before YOUR post appeared on my page.

I'm talking about your Al-Qaeda post.... it has a different tone.

Something very valuable I will teach you guys about Asians.

Want to keep arguments to a low when talking with Asians? Watch your tone and what you might be implying. We don't really care about what you say... we like to read the subtext behind what you are saying. LOL

Really. Asians care about your tone more about what words you are using. Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis... we all do that.

Dethspud:

It continues to amaze me that Americans think that my life is somehow dominated by Islam or something.

No, most of the thoughts in my head is figuring out where I am going to get my next fuck from.

For me and everyone I know, Islam is a source of great ideas and great inspiration. It has given me answers... real answers that helped me make more money for example.

The Wahabi however, like to mix politcs with Islam (something that Mohamed was against). So do the Iranians.

Anything that becomes "political" turns into dirt.

Anyway... on topic...

If you look up the "Karakoram Highway"... it is the highest and most difficult highway in the world, cutting across the Himalayas, linking Pakistan and China.

It took many people from both sides to make this road.

One day, some Uighers came to Pakistani road builder and asked him if he had a copy of the Koran... they weren't allowed any in China (no religion, period... look what they did to "Falun Gung").

So our guy sneaked in a Koran to the Chinese workers.

Few days later, they were all arrested (the Chinese muslims) and shot. Just for having a Koran.

See.. THIS is why they had bad feelings. Because these are a very brave people and they don't like being told what to do, they reacted.

But to call them "terrorist" is just disingenuous.

Besides, this happened a very long time ago (in Mao's time) when China was very strict about such things.

Now they have no such problem.

Thanks for short history lesson, Tosser.

Freedom to read is a precious right & why internet freedom is always at risk:>)

Want to keep arguments to a low when talking with Asians? Watch your tone and what you might be implying. We don't really care about what you say... we like to read the subtext behind what you are saying. LOL

Agreed. Good advice when talking to any group really. The literal content of our words is only half of wot we communicate when we speak. Your voice, it's tone, it's volume, the emotions evinced, sincerity level versus obvious sarcasm, attention paid, allowing others to finish their sentences, speaking overly long or being curt and impatient, the relationship between speaker and speakee, body language and so much more goes into the act of communicating.

Some people are far more concious of this than others. Some people are downright oblivious to nuance.

This is wot makes blogworld so tough at times. We are forced to rely on literal content so much here. There is a kind of purity to that but there is also a kind of diminishment as well.

Spud, as you may or may not have noticed, tends to go from the wildly childish to dry, didactic and pedantic speech hereabouts with a special emphasis on colloquialisms, folksy speech patterns and varying degrees of slang usage and especially swearing. Swearing in blogworld is kinda like emotional punctuation. Spud also uses "/snark>" at the end of a sentence to make sure people "get" that I'm being totally sarcastic prior to that point. The ability to link to various pix can also be a blessing in terms of the whole "a picture is worth a thousand words" thing.

But I digress.

Spud'll do that, ya know. ^_^

Be Well.

Thanx fer the history lesson Tosser, as Bani sed.

Besides, this happened a very long time ago (in Mao's time) when China was very strict about such things.

Now they have no such problem

Spud watched a very interesting documentary tonight on The Passionate Eye (Spud's big on Docs ...and eyes too come to think on it) Anyways, the topic du jour was the sexual revolution in China. From Mao to WOW! The rise in prostitution which although technically still a crime punishable by death has become a neccessary evil in the eyes of the government due to the lopsided men to women ratio. The rise in AIDS, of course. The rise in strip clubs. The rise in the sale of street corner porn. The fact that women are now more valued than ever in a societal sense because of the classical laws of supply and demand. The documentarians went undecover inside a brothel and covered a Chinese Sex Toy and Fashion Exhibition. The first year they tried it the governemnt shut them down, last year it had over 30,000 attendees. They brought up the fact that sexual revolution is a genie that is well nigh impossible to stuff back into the bottle once it has been opened. Mostly, Spud came away from the Doc with the sense that it's never been more FUN to live in China than it is right now. It's kinda like the sexual revolution of the sixties here in the west only without all the attendent religious guilt that went along with it.

Woo Hoo!

Spud sez Make Luff not War!

The idea that Mao is spinning in his grave over all this upheaval was also a giggle fer Spud, admittedly.

Nothing certain but change.

Be Well.

Spud your neverending dumbass stupidity is beyond belief.

You are here taling about talking about a sexual revolution in China never mind the obvious consequences that women in China are more steadily becoming prostitutes and aids is on the rise. How fucking stupid are you?

Don't answer you might blow a circuit trying.

Oh, and Uighers were also exempt from China's "one child" policy.

I don't know if they still have that so strict, but one time, if you had more than one kid in China, you were in deep doo-doo.

But of you were Uigher-Chinese, you could have more than one kid.

So China has been nice to these guys plenty.

Perhaps some old warriors find it hard to let go... but it is nothing, I am sure.

Spud:

Our Chinese cousins are very much into gambling (the national sport), cockroach racing, pron, gals in general and lots of sex. They are, by their very nature, a very fun and party people.

Compared to Indians and Pakistanis, for example. We is the glass is half-empty types. They are the glass is always full type.

Typical Chinese fella or gal, can outsex and out gamble any Westerner, I bet. You have to see these guys to believe it. LOL

But, yes, things like AIDS is a big danger... but they still have enough self-control for it to not turn into an epidemic.. self-control that they don't have in India, for example.

Mao and Communism had only swept China's fun glands under the rug. It wuz always there waiting to come out.

G'bye Potato. Sleep well.

Spud just sees the neccessity of seperating Church and State.


What he said.

The difference bewteen Shia (Iranians) and Sunni (90% of the muslims world) is that Shia say they HAVE TO mix politics and religion. They have a "church"... a religious hierarchy with a "Ayatollah" on the top like scum on top of a bad cup of tea.

Sunni muslims, on the other hand, don't have a "church". There is nobody in charge.

If one guy sez he is some kind of religious leader, then there will be another who sez, no you ain't so.

No central authority like the Vatican.

Which means that 90% of Muslims don't like mixing politics with religion... unless they are Wahabi (who are also technically Sunni but behave like Shia).

It continues to amaze me that Americans think that my life is somehow dominated by Islam or something

Tosser: I asked you a few days ago why you say Amreekan instead of American. You replied:

Actually it is the correct pronounciation of "American" in India and Pak

Does this help answer your question? When you pronounce our nationality as a Pakistani would, is it any wonder that Americans think you life is dominated by that culture?

BTW, congratulations on using the correct word (American) in this post. This is the first time I've seen you use it

very valuable I will teach you guys about Asians.

Want to keep arguments to a low when talking with Asians? Watch your tone and what you might be implying. We don't really care about what you say... we like to read the subtext behind what you are saying. LOL

Really. Asians care about your tone more about what words you are using. Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis... we all do that.

Tosser: Please apply this lesson to yourself. See my post above. We Americans like to be called "Americans", not "Amreekans".

No, most of the thoughts in my head is figuring out where I am going to get my next fuck from.


If you want to get fucked then vote for McBush

Uighurs

Aren't those the Chinese that listen to rap music and wear their pants down low?

THIS martial art is Muslim dominated (called "Islamic Boxing" in China). Which means, they won't hold back their punches.. in theory.

Malay martial arts and Filipino martial arts (some if them) and Indonesian martial arts are also Muslim dominated and it shows in their being more effective.

Posted by Tosser at 2008-03-10 02:40 AM

I'm gonna have to check this stuff out. I've always liked the more realistic forms of martial arts, as compared to the "artsier" forms like Capoiera.

One of my favorites is Krav Maga, the Israeli form of martial arts. It holds no foolish reservations about rules or honor, and even emphasizes hitting/stabbing guys in the junk when possible. That's probably why they have survived for so long surrounded by people who want them dead...

I'm sure Hillary had a role is stopping this. After all, she's a fighter!

I've seen the word, "Wahabi" thrown around a bit on this post.

Anyone care to define it for me?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - I. M.

I've seen the word, "Wahabi" thrown around a bit on this post

I think it's a pungent green paste-like substance that one puts on sushi.

Great quote, beekeeper.

"Inconceivable!"

My God, Rob! You don't think the Chinese might even resort to sprinkling a little water on the face of a terrorist?

Posted by vernon


We'll see... how barbaric.

Go China!

Goatee:

Has the thought ever entered your mind that I might use "Amreekan" instead of "American" only because I like bugging you?

I type very fast and it's kind of like I'm speaking out loud. So it comes out the way I say it. Believe me... no insult is intended.

Tell you what Goatee... if one more guy tells me to stop doing it, I will try. OK?



is it any wonder that Americans think you life is dominated by that culture?


What nonsense are you talking about when you say "that culture"? I am Pakistani totally and proud of it, you twit.

I am speaking for most Pakistanis.... we all wonder where are next fuck is coming from, ok? We are not as concerned about Islam or any other religion as Americans are.

Believe me... and I'm not trying to be snide... I seriously think Americans are a far more religious people than Pakistanis. Meaning they might not be "religious" in the sense of going to church every day... I mean, they worry about religion and discuss it far more than we do.

Beekeeper:

As the United States is a superpower today, the world's first modern superpower was the Ottoman Empire.

The British were instrumental in breaking up the Ottoman Empire and hastening it's end. They did this by making the Arab parts declare their independence and break away.

See the old and classic movie "Lawrence of Arabia".

In order to give legitimacy to the Arab tribes for ruling the land, they got a male-whore, gambling, drunk called "Abdul Wahab" out of some brothel.

This guy ... and the British... created a new type of Islam that was mixed in with politics by it's very nature. And women were reduced to the status of whores and animals. (the Saudi religion encourages prositution).

It was made the religion of the Saudi Royal family and hence the state religion.

See Wiki, and you can read how innocent Muslims were killed ... and bombed... by the British, so that Abdul Wahab and his followers could rule Arabia.

The murderous streak of the Wahabi continued on 9-11.

We would have gotten rid of Wahabi-ism from Islam... but we can not. Not as long as America buys their petrol.

In case you wonder, all countries whose name ends with "stan"... like Pakistan... have "Hanfi" as the predominant religion, not Wahabi.

If you want to get fucked then vote for McBush


All the American members of my family are going to vote for "McBush".

1. Pakistani-Americans vote Republican always. It's what they do.

2. McCain is Pakistan's friend. While that Bitch and the Token-Nigger are both hostile towards Pakistan.

Fortunately, we are so lucky, things tend to happpen our way.

If nothing else Religion is a great networking tool.


I meant I make more money because I've switched over to Islamic economic principles.

The Koran is full of them.

Basically, "Islamic economics" is exactly what you in the West know as "Green economics".

Meaning I will not invest my money in tobacco companies, for example. Or those that do any animal testing. And I have tried out Islamic insurance... much less of a headache. Also the bank accounts tend to pay more. (we have a choice... you can put your money in a western style bank or an arab style islamic bank)

And for some reason, I find I am worth more... on paper at least.

Anyway.. Green Economics is something I believe in and recommend for everyone.

I type very fast and it's kind of like I'm speaking out loud. So it comes out the way I say it. Believe me... no insult is intended.

Somehow I'm not convinced it is merely "typing fast". Other than occaisionally mis-conjugating the verb "to be" your English is perfect. I wonder why "fast typing" affects only one word in your vocabulary?

Anyway, I was just answering your musing, It continues to amaze me that Americans think that my life is somehow dominated by Islam or something and returning the favor you graciously gave on how to better respond to Asians. If the reciprocity is not appreciated, and you have no desire on how to better communicate with Americans, let me know.

m Pakistani totally and proud of it, you twit.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm proud to be an American. As such, I like my country and nationality to be spelled and referred to correctly. What's wrong with that?

This is the first time I've seen you use it


Goatee, you ain't seen nothing yet...

I wonder why "fast typing" affects only one word in your vocabulary?



Go over all the spelling mistakes I made and used "their" instead of "there", etc.

I use Firefox to make it easy for myself, but I am on another computer and am using Microsnot's rubbish.

Come to think of it... there is something else to it. China is pronounced here as "Cheen". But since now everything we buy is "made in China", (from my car to my watch) the word "Cheen" has been replaced by "China" in normal speech.

Unfortunately I have not seen any "Made in United States" or "Made in America" stuff over here.

So the name "America" isn't mentioned much and doesn't enter normal speech.

Just a theory.

Goatee, you ain't seen nothing yet...

meaning? You'll continue to disrespect my country by not spelling it correctly?

Don't worry, I won't debase myself by calling you a "mooslem" or other disprectful uses of that word. NOr will I misspell your nationality or country of birth. It's a juvenile thing to do. I'm above that.

Tosser,

Thanks for the post.

I would think that 9-11 has more to do with Sayeed Qutb than this guy Wahab. Wahab seems more like a derogatory term made up by some other Muslims-- after all, Wahab abhored grave worship, and many Muslims (Hanafi, Sufi) still do it to this day, and coincidentally, they have only bad things to say about this guy. And the term doesn't really explain the extensive influence the modern Qutb had on Bin Laden and the like.

It is interesting that even liberal American born converts to Islam such as Hamza Yusuf who are close to the Sufi movement openly denounce other Muslims in vitriolic rhetorical terms and utilize this term. Does any "Wahabi" actually call himself as such?

Because Sayeed Qutb is a modernist and his political views on Islam are much clearer and better accessed by those average Muslims outside the Madrassa, his writings seem to represent the beliefs of Al-Qaeda than a guy who died 250 years ago.

Perhaps we should refer to them as "Qutbists".

Go over all the spelling mistakes I made and used "their" instead of "there", etc.

I understand misspellings of synonyms. I do that sometimes as well.

But as far as I know, there are no synonyms of "America".

Does any "Wahabi" actually call himself as such?



Oh yes! And very proudly too. I've seen one guy do it at least.


Wahab abhored grave worship, and many Muslims (Hanafi, Sufi) still do it to this day


We do not! And never did.

Many people do visit the graves of people considered to be Saints and say a prayer or two. The theory being that the saint's spirit will add it's own prayer to that of yours and help it along.

Hardly "grave worship".

These things are the sick imaginations of Wahabis to justify their existance.

Even music is evil to these people, as are women. What do you expect from a mind as sick as that?

I don't know who this Qutab guy is.... never heard of him.

Don't worry, I won't debase myself by calling you a "mooslem" or other disprectful uses of that word. NOr will I misspell your nationality or country of birth. It's a juvenile thing to do. I'm above that.



Bloody hell... what can I say?

"You are a better man than I, Gunga Din".

Yippee for you.

"Even music is evil to these people, as are women. What do you expect from a mind as sick as that?"


If they are talking aobut Britney Spears in both case I'd probably say they were onto something.

If you want to get fucked then vote for McBush


All the American members of my family are going to vote for "McBush".

1. Pakistani-Americans vote Republican always. It's what they do.

2. McCain is Pakistan's friend. While that Bitch and the Token-Nigger are both hostile towards Pakistan.

Fortunately, we are so lucky, things tend to happpen our way.

Posted by Tosser at 2008-03-10 12:34 PM






I have flagged this post as offensive!

"Many people do visit the graves of people considered to be Saints and say a prayer or two. The theory being that the saint's spirit will add it's own prayer to that of yours and help it along"

Tosser,

I dunno, looking at it from my I'm-probably-going-to-hell-
anyway" protestant perspective saints are no more than dead holy people and most dead holy people that i know of are in graves with big monuments dedicated to them, so going to some pretentious three hundred foot gravestone and asking a dead holy person to put a good word in to God for you could be misconstrued as "grave worship", and against Wahab's apparent affinity for "oneness" of God.

Not that they have to kill each other for this difference in opinion, however, LOL!

I have flagged this post as offensive!


Good for you!


Beekeeper:

Point is, Wahabism was created for political reasons alone and that is well documented.

Point is, that if I see O'Binbin at my gate asking to borrow some sugar I will blow his brains out. In a second.

And if I see any lousy Amreekan (this time I am saying it out of contempt) next, I will kick him in the nuts. Won't blow his brains... but he will get a kick in the nuts. Just because.

Good for you!

Last time I checked the n word was a no no around here. Have some common decency.

As far as your lousy American remark(s) rest assured you are one lucky person that this is an anonomous blog on the internet.

And if I see any lousy Amreekan (this time I am saying it out of contempt) next, I will kick him in the nuts.

Tough guy. I'm duly impressed

"Beekeeper:

Point is, Wahabism was created for political reasons alone and that is well documented"

I agree that apparently it was used for political reasons but, that being said I don't think it was necessarily CREATED for political reasons.

Though I have been interested in this sort of thing since 9-11, and have read quite a bit about the subject, I am by no means well-educated on the subject, and of course being Christian, an outsider. However, it occurs to me that many Hanafi dislike Wahab and the modern day hot-shot scholars who follow him like BinBaz and Albani (sp?) because they rip on the Hanafi for celebrating Mohamed's birthday and venerating saints and so forth. He-he. Just like the catholics! LOL!

Still, it is interesting to note that many adherents to the "wahab" way of Islam have come out and publically denounced terrorism. Even Saudi's big hotshot BinBaz was ripped on by Bin Laden for his opinion on the Oslo Accords and he came out publically and said that regime change cannot occur through terrorist violence, something that ol' Osama Bin Forgotten advocates.

good discussion....

I don't think it was necessarily CREATED for political reasons.


It was created for political reasons and no other reason. It was created to break up the Ottoman Empire and it later succeeded in doing so.



BinBaz and Albani


I don't know these guys you keep mentioning.

Is this a test of some kind? Are you testing me?

rest assured you are one lucky person that this is an anonomous blog on the internet.


Yes... isn't it?

I am sure if you could get to me, you would have said I had WMDs under my bed and then you would've tried to break into my home and kill me. Right? LOL

But then, we don't get everything we want out of life, now do we?

Live with it.

Here ya go Salad Tosser:

SHEIK BIN BAZ,
'ABDUL 'AZIZ IBN 'ABDULLAH IBN MUHAMMAD IBN 'ABDULLAH AL-BAZ (1910-1999)

'Abdul 'Aziz ibn 'Abdullah ibn Muhammad ibn 'Abdullah al-Baz was born in Riyadh in 1910 (Dhul Hijjah 12, 1330) into a family of Islamic scholars. His father died when he was eight years old. Sheik Bin Baz was able to recite the entire Qur'an when he was eleven years old, and lost his sight when he was sixteen.

He studied under Shaikh Muhammad ibn 'Abdul Wahhab. In addition to the memorization of the Qur'an, he memorized all of the major hadith and many other important texts. His first position was as a judge in Kharj from 1936-1950. He taught at the Religious Institute of Riyadh and then at the faculty of Shariah. He became the Deputy Rector at the Islamic University of Madinah in 1950. He was promoted to Rector in 1970. A royal decree was issued which appointed him President of the Administration of Religious Research, Ifta, Da'wah, and Guidance at the rank of a minister. Sheikh Ibn Baz was appointed Grand Mufti by King Fahd in 1994.

Ibn Baz was a supporter of many Islamic causes. He called upon Muslims to support their brethren in Palestine, Bosnia, Kosovo and Kashmir and won the King Faisal prize for Service to Islam.

"It was created for political reasons and no other reason. It was created to break up the Ottoman Empire and it later succeeded in doing so."


C'mon. the Ottoman empire was doomed by its very existence. Empures come and go. Obviously, "Wahab" or "Salafi" or whatever anyone want to call it wouldn't still be popular if the only reason the movement was created for was to break apart super-Turkey.

"Is this a test of some kind? Are you testing me?"

No. I don't test people. I only discuss with them, shoot guns with them, fight with them, screw them, and occasionally, if I am stuck in the wild with no other food to consume, eat them.

But if someone wants to see who is truly behind 9-11, they need to research these guys, especially Sayeed Qutb.

He's like the poster saint for Bin-Bin-Laden-Laden.

'ABDUL 'AZIZ IBN 'ABDULLAH IBN MUHAMMAD IBN 'ABDULLAH AL-BAZ (1910-1999)



OK... so he was a cunt of some importance in Saudi.

What the hell is that to me?



C'mon. the Ottoman empire was doomed by its very existence. Empures come and go.


True.. but this one lasted for 500 years. America has some way to go to last that long.


it wouldn't still be popular if the only reason the movement was created for was to break apart super-Turkey.


The power of oil.


Bin-Bin-Laden-Laden.


Today, I bought a watch with O'Binbin in the background.

Not because I like him... but because it was cheap (40 rupees... 60 rupee=1 dollar) and because I think it's funny.

Why is China making cheap O'Binbin watches? LOL. Chinese have one hell of a sense of humor. Might as well make money out of the bastard.

Not because I like him... but because it was cheap (40 rupees... 60 rupee=1 dollar)



Cheap Bastard!

I have flagged this post as offensive!

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Cheers,
Walt

I'm assuming 2112 was offended by the inclusion of the word "token"...As was I.
Sincerely,
Sen Byrd and 101

TOSSER

Tell you what Goatee... if one more guy tells me to stop doing it, I will try. OK?

Posted by Tosser at 2008-03-10 12:14 PM

Well, here's one more guy telling you to stop calling Americans" by the name "Amreekans."
It's disrespectful and you shouldn't do it.

I don't think you're doing this just to irritate Goatman because, if I remember correctly, I called you on this doing exact same thing awhile back. Hey, we don't insult Paskistanis by making slurs on your nationality all the time (like "Pakcacastaneees" or some other disrespectful crap) so why do it to Americans? This is an American blog.

I agree. Stop doing it, tosser. It's annoyingly stupid, and whatever point you may have had in your posts gets lost when people read that crap.

I agree, Tosser. After all, nobody on this blog refers to Mideasterners as "ragheads" "sand monkeys" "camel fuckers," etc.

And remember, it is a privilege, not a right, to post on the AWW, American Wide Web.

go away

Can't handle the truth, can you crybaby?

Funny flags for Rob's 9:14 and 101's 9:27.

Oh, and a big ole eat my shorts to Walt's 9:24.



Great weather here in Zion. It's supposed to be almost 60 degrees here today. Damn, it's about time.

Going to the sports expo on Thursday. Looking for a holster and belt for my wifes new Ruger Bearcat.

If I can find a #2 Sage Fly Pole I just might grab it as well.

Can't wait to get out fishing, hiking and shooting.

2112,

Did I miss some sarcasm from you? Please do tell.

Cheers,
Walt

Walt,

Just refering to your 9:24 post. No biggie.


Spring fever has taken me over. If I didnt have to work this saturday I'd be out laying a dry fly at my favorite spot on the Strawberry River.

All in time......... all in time.

Trout fishing?

You know I have fished the Tigris and the Euphrates? Caught fish in both rivers using Rooster tails.

I am a Bass man myself.

Good hunting!

Cheers

Rooster Tails?

I usually use an Adams or Royal Coachman when dry fly fishing.

Bead headed Prince Nymph with a blood worm dropper when scratching the bottom.

Rainbow, Brown and Cut throat Trout mainly. Sometimes I'll get ahold of a white fish.

Never been Bass fishing but have heard many stories. My father and I have concidered buying a Bass boat and taking it up. At 63 he is having a harder and harder time wading the rivers.

I do not recommend Bass fishing. As with trout, there are many variables, but with Bass, there are many more to consider. Both have similarities with color choice, line size, depth of presentation, high/low pressure accommodations, etc.. But with Trout, you know they have to swim past a particular point. Bass on the other hand can be at any depth on any size lake at any given time. Feeding or not feeding. Spawning or not. Frontal activity can wreak havoc on a days fishing for Bass. You have to account for the bloody cloud cover and ripple on the water and temperature. Both are sciences, but GD, you can fish your ass off for a Bass and come back with a Crappy, while I have never came back from a hunt for Trout empty handed.

My father and I have concidered buying a Bass boat and taking it up.

What state are you in?

I had no idea it bugged you guys so.

Fine. I'll try not to do it.

Tosser,

Fuck those Amreekans. You realize what your own "handle" means?

Cheers,
Walt

After all, nobody on this blog refers to Mideasterners as "ragheads" "sand monkeys" "camel fuckers," etc.



And I'm not a Middle Easterner, for crying out loud...



And remember, it is a privilege, not a right, to post on the AWW, American Wide Web.



Oh really now?

Who made all of YouTube go kaput for 2 hours all over the world on the "American Wide Web"?

Don't mess with us bro. We might not have muscles as big as yours, but our knives are sharper... LOL

You realize what your own "handle" means?


Yes, I do. I stayed up nights thinking about it.

Walt,

Here in Utah. Some really nice streams and rivers to choose from. Many, many lakes as well. Tons with Bass and trout.

...while I have never came back from a hunt for Trout empty handed.

I have. Same kind of variables. They are either feeding or not feeding or not eating what you have on the line. Takes patience and note keeping to 'figure out' a stream. Fishing after a full moon is almost certin skunkville. As with most types of hunting/fishing, patience is a virtue.




P.S. Don't tell Salad Tosser what his handle means it will spoil all the fun in calling him that.

And I'm not a Middle Easterner, for crying out loud...

Did someone say you were?


Don't mess with us bro. We might not have muscles as big as yours, but our knives are sharper..

And when are you going to use them -- before or after you kick us in the balls?

Your threats are becoming boring. Are you this mean and nasty in real life? Or is your machisimo persona only online?

"tosser". No pretenses there, at least.

You realize what your own "handle" means?


Yes, I do. I stayed up nights thinking about it.

Posted by Tosser




Pretty much says it all!

shudder

Tosser means "irritating arsehole" in Brit slang, yeah?

Why are you assuming I don't know what it means? My command over the English language is, I dare say, better than yours.

Of course, I don't speaky no "American". I speak Pakistani (75% Urdu 25% English... the normal spoken language) or just plain "English".

Up yer bum.

Tosser means "irritating arsehole" in Brit slang, yeah?


Well, Tosser, not quite. But if that's what you want to believe then by all means.



Why are you assuming I don't know what it means? My command over the English language is, I dare say, better than yours.

I dare say that if you knew what it meant you might understand why I assume you have a less than complete command over the english language (or at least it's slang)



Take care Salad Tosser.

I dare say that if you knew what it meant you might understand why I assume you have a less than complete command over the english language (or at least it's slang)



A "tosser" can be the same as "excessive masturbator" (American).

Or "extremely irritating person". (British)

[Brit, vulgar] Insulting terms of address for people who are stupid or irritating or ridiculous

I prefer the second meaning as it is more British... I told you I don't speak your gaga-googoo version of the language, Yankee.

Either way Salad Tosser, your somewhat close but oh so far away.


Keep Tossen those salads............





"Radio Goo Goo, Radio Ga Ga" Great song!!

Did someone say you were?


Yes!

Subtext, my boy... it's all in the subtext!

Read his post again.


And when are you going to use them


I thought I said we used them? Blocked YouTube for 2 hours for the whole world? I think it was pretty cool.



Your threats are becoming boring.



I don't make threats. I am not an American, you see.

I was expressing a fantasy about what makes me horny. Not making a threat.



Are you this mean and nasty in real life? Or is your machisimo persona only online?


Goatee... that is a question you will wonder about for a long long time.

What a retard!

I don't make threats. .

Of course you don't.

And if I see any lousy Amreekan (this time I am saying it out of contempt) next, I will kick him in the nuts. Won't blow his brains... but he will get a kick in the nuts. Just because.

Posted by Tosser at 2008-03-10 02:41 PM |

I was expressing a fantasy about what makes me horny.

Clearly not an American. Most Americans aren't sexually stimulated by knives. Big breasts and nice legs are the norm here.

I guess when the females are covered with burqas one has to travel down unorthodox avenues to pursue sexual stimulation. I would never have guessed sharp knives would do it, though. Live and learn.

"Are you this mean and nasty in real life? Or is your machisimo persona only online?"

Goatee... that is a question you will wonder about for a long long time.

No I won't. It was a rhetorical question. I had you figured out a long time ago.

I type very fast and it's kind of like I'm speaking out loud. So it comes out the way I say it. Believe me... no insult is intended.

Tell you what Goatee... if one more guy tells me to stop doing it, I will try. OK?-Tosser


I don't believe that for one second. If that were true then you would type a host of other words differently to fit your accent. Count me in as the next guy who says he doen't like it.

Count me in as the next guy who says he doen't like it.

Posted by everlong

That makes 4 who said they don't like being called "Ameerkans"

Goatman
CalifChris
Alexandrite
everlong

make it 5

Goatman
CalifChris
Alexandrite
everlong
2112

I dont like it either

make it 6

make it 6

Posted by captainOface at 2008-03-11 03:59 PM


Goatman
CalifChris
Alexandrite
everlong
2112
CaptainOFace

7

Goatman
CalifChris
Alexandrite
everlong
2112
CaptainOFace
JeffJ

Interesting how this "news report" from china is so bereft of any details...

I believe anything the Chinese say less than I believe anything Bush says...