I would love to see Bill Clinton come out in support of John McCain, or at least not support Obama for the way they have treated his wife... he is a man afterall... most men don't appreciate their wives being attacked.

I would laugh out loud to see Bill Clinton come out in support of Larry Craig!

Both are total losers.

Obama on the other hand is the key to our nation uniting.

Rob,

My wet-dream scenario would be for Bill Clinton to have an illicit affair with Michelle Obama.

Obama on the other hand is the key to our nation uniting.

*Jeff commences vomiting.

*Jeff commences vomiting.

Posted by JeffJ


You're not alone...

Oh let me guess Sam... cuz he can change things?

Yeah, things will change. As soon as we start taxing the evil rich people in this country, everything will get better. It won't send more jobs overseas, because we have hope and change, and we'll be respected in the world. Maybe Americans will have to sneak into Mexico to find jobs.

Hope is usually just postponed dissapointment.

Hope is usually just postponed dissapointment.

Posted by sawdust

Especially when promised by a politician...

Obama on the other hand is the key to our nation uniting.

*Jeff commences vomiting.

Posted by JeffJ

Move over Jeff; I feel dinner coming up myself...I am soooooo sick of hearing about the black messiah!
He won't change or unite shit. People wake up.

Change,

Unite,

Or get the hell out of the way.

CLINTONISKING wrote,

I am soooooo sick of hearing about the black messiah!

Hmmmm

If Bubba could have an affair with Michelle he would. Heck he'd probably would have one with Rosie O'Donnell or Rosanne Barr if he could given his uncontrollable libido and total lack of good taste in women.

Change,

Unite,

Or get the hell out of the way.

Posted by tigerbalm

Too funny. You sound like Oprah!

Wow, I thought that after all these years in Tucson I would have lost my Moabian accent.

CIK only support Hillary because she is a woman she told me but do I also see some underlying racism?

Not to split hairs but just show the American public just one of the 2008 front runners who isn't a ringer,who ins't on the take - to Corporate America!!!

Hope is usually just postponed dissapointment.

Posted by sawdust

Especially when promised by a politician...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

"More than anything else, I want my candidacy to unify our country, to renew the American spirit and sense of purpose. I want to carry our message to every American, regardless of party affiliation, who is a member of this community of shared values . . . For those who have abandoned hope, we'll restore hope and we'll welcome them into a great national crusade to make America great again!"

So Ronald Reagan proclaimed on July 17, 1980, as he accepted his party's nomination for president at the Republican National Convention in Detroit, Mich.

A reviewer of Power's book for The New York Times, perhaps summed it up best, saying that the picture of Clinton that emerges from this reading is that of an "amoral narcissist."

Why did it take Power's book, for the NY Times and the American Left to know about Clinton what the Righties and Republicans knew all along?

And for that she gets a Pulitzer?

Any number of right-wing pundits could have written that same book, and much sooner.

CIK only support Hillary because she is a woman she told me but do I also see some underlying racism?

Posted by messiah


you are one dumb fuck. one, I'm a guy, and 2, I would support ANYONE over Barry, and that includes John McCain. why?..I would never trust anyone that people blindly follow who really says nothing. he's creepy. Obamamaniacs remind me of the people who followed Jim Jones.

Hey ClintonIsKing, I have a hunch that Messiah is in fact Jackass just FYI.

Larry Mohr

Larry, that would explain everything!

Obama on the other hand is the key to our nation uniting.

Posted by Unclesam at 2008-03-08 09:53 PM


and why is that? or is that just a feel good claim and it goes back to what I said before. dems keep saying vote for a liberal dem and UNITE america....so who says that thier view will unite.
and if that unites us, will I have to then start smoking dope after killing babies in the womb all while I draw welfare and let muslim terrorists have free reign to bomb and murder all over the world.
I still wonder where libs get the idea that its only thier values and issues that UNITE us...thats nonssense.

BLT
He won't be able to unite fanatics like you. But for the rest of us. Good times.

The increase in vitriolic panic is in the posts here indicates that the righties are realizing what most of us have known for months now.

Obama has won the nomination and McCain can beat him.

Allah willing.

Obama has won the nomination and McCain can beat him.

Allah willing.

Posted by tigerbalm

FF you crack me up!

So Ronald Reagan proclaimed on July 17, 1980, as he accepted his party's nomination for president at the Republican National Convention in Detroit, Mich.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Uh huh... and how did it work out? Reagan was the great American uniter right? I'll bet if you looked hard enough you could find a speech of HW Bush talking about hope and ending partisan bickering and changing the nation... probably Clinton too... and we all know Bush was a uniter and not a divider...

The only difference about an Obama presidency is his supporters will call anyone who criticizes him a racist until all dissent stops... Or until Americans grow a pair of balls (or more then a pair) and stop caring what leftist race card players say.

I would love to see Bill Clinton come out in support of John McCain, or at least not support Obama for the way they have treated his wife... he is a man afterall... most men don't appreciate their wives being attacked.
-Rob the A Hole

Once you've read this one, it kind of makes everything else Rob the A Hole posts seem kind of irrelevant.

Reagan a Great Uniter? How soon we forget - although Rob probably was not yet reading papers. Barney O'Bama will probably survive the know nothings who post about race cards or holler H-U-S-S-E-I-N. But it may make things a bit tougher at first. herm

It was sarcasm herm...

Once you've read this one, it kind of makes everything else Rob the A Hole posts seem kind of irrelevant.

Posted by sitdown


All I'm saying is it is afterall his wife that is being attacked pretty hard by the Dems that are supporting Obama... and for someone in Obama's camp to call her a "monster" I would think would piss off any husband. I'm just wondering how far they can go before as a man and as a husband Bill Clinton would have to say "I'm not supporting this man."

PS Go fuck yourself

and her husband's administration was, in effect, helping the murderers

One of the most amazing parts about this DNC primary is how in order to take out Hillary, Obama supporters have to trash the Clinton Administration, which up until this primary seemed to be in their books one of the greatest presidencies ever. Really quite fascinating...

But here we also see again, if you're in Bill Clinton's shoes, how can you support Barack Obama after the attacks against your wife, and now you've been accused of helping in one of the worst genocides in decades?

I'm just wondering how far they can go before as a man and as a husband Bill Clinton would have to say "I'm not supporting this man." -Rob the A Hole


In denial about your irrelevance, Rob :), I am just wondering if you aren't one of those people who would have already decided that Bill Clinton already had surpassed himself in his contempt for his wife by his sexual dalliances, or does the fact that he is still her husband and still a man still make him honor bound to defend her against "the attacks".

BTW what attacks?

And, I bet Bill has called her a Monster more times than Samantha Power has. And vice-versa.

Obama supporters have to trash the Clinton Administration, which up until this primary seemed to be in their books one of the greatest presidencies ever. Really quite fascinating...

Ole "Two-Forks" Rob is talking again, huh?

Since when is telling the truth, "trashing" anyone? What scurrilous claims has Obama ever made about Hillary? That she won't release her tax records even after loaning her campaign personal funds which no one now can say from whence they came?

That she supported NAFTA until she withdrew support recently? Even the inside reporting from the 90s claims that Hillary's opposition stemmed from her selfish desire of seeing her own secretive healthcare plan passed and she didn't think Congress would do both at the same time, and she was right.

That she voted for the war and against the Levin Amendment and for the Kyl Amendment? Again, where's the trashing? These are just facts, plain and simple.

And if you want to talk about funding the war after it started, do you really think either Hillary or Barack would be where they are if they'd consistently voted to defund the war when the White House called such actions "detrimental to the troops"? Get real. If they had you, along with every GOPer, would be shouting in glee that neither was fit to be CIC when they "abandoned the troops in harm's way."

or does the fact that he is still her husband and still a man still make him honor bound to defend her against "the attacks".

ah... yeah. It does.

BTW what attacks?

See title of thread

Facts are not attacks.

Ole "Two-Forks" Rob is talking again, huh?

I have no idea what this means... would you care to explain?

Since when is telling the truth, "trashing" anyone?

Its not, but if this is a truth how often was it spoken by leftists before the Obama presidential campaign?

That she supported NAFTA until she withdrew support recently?

I didn't hear about her withdrawing recently... did she also tell some canadian her criticisms weren't serious?

Facts are not attacks.

Posted by tonyroma


Before the Presidential campaign of Barack Obama how often did Democrats say Clinton assisted in the Rwandan genocide?

And if you want to talk about funding the war after it started

I do. If they were truly against the war they wouldn't be funding it. They would be proposing legislation for pullouts and putting them up for votes... daily.

If they were truly against the war they wouldn't be funding it. They would be proposing legislation for pullouts and putting them up for votes... daily.

They would if they thought that W would actually withdraw the troops if funding were cut off, which he WON'T do. So cutting off funding harms the troops and no American should want that regardless of how they feel about the war.

You're too politically savvy to call for such terminal politics Rob. The number one rule of politics is to get re-elected, not to commit suicide for the sake of making a statement.

And on your point about the Clinton's past: many kept their tongues quiet because the GOP were TOO desperate in their scorn for the Clintons. Sort of like many Republicans refusing to condemn W for all his screw-ups and asswipe decisions over the last 7 + years. Some have criticized him, but waint and watch the torrent that will after he's left office. You can't talk trash to power unless you want to cut yourself from access to power.

They would if they thought that W would actually withdraw the troops if funding were cut off, which he WON'T do. So cutting off funding harms the troops and no American should want that regardless of how they feel about the war.

This is the Democrat mindset, right here.

Of course, why do anything? That would mean taking a stand...and we can't have that happen. A not so wise man once said, "You're either with us or you're against us..." If you don't defund the war, guess what you are?

Oh and Samantha Power...didn't get to mention her.

She's the left version of a Neocon. Loves nation building and sending in the troops. As long as it's not her or her family of course.

What happens in 20 years after we "do something"? We have to go back in 20 years and "do something" again of course. By "we" I don't mean Samantha Power of course.

One of the most amazing parts about this DNC primary is how in order to take out Hillary, Obama supporters have to trash the Clinton Administration, which up until this primary seemed to be in their books one of the greatest presidencies ever.

Nope ROB,

This is a republican fantasy. Yes the Bill Clinton era is fondly remembered by us Ds for economic prosperity and successfully restraining the regressive agenda of the Repubs. But we, or at least I, was glad to see him leave especially after the absurd littany of scandal distractions, pardons etc.

This idea of always going back to some "glorious yesteryear" is the psycholoical weakness of the Repubs not them Dems.

You're too politically savvy to call for such terminal politics Rob. The number one rule of politics is to get re-elected, not to commit suicide for the sake of making a statement.


So you're saying Obama is just a politician... no different from the rest.

Fine, he votes for funding everytime... But has he ever proposed legislation to bring them home. Fully fund them until a set date and then they leave. That would seem to be the best of both worlds, and then no one could say his position on Iraq (and hers) is unclear. He'd be keeping the troops funded and bringing them home at the same time.

This idea of always going back to some "glorious yesteryear" is the psycholoical weakness of the Repubs not them Dems.

Posted by tigerbalm


Well this is just silly. are you new to the retort? For the last 7 years all democrats have talked about is the "glorious yesteryear" of the Clinton Administration. Well that is up until the Barack Obama campaign... now it was just as bad as the Bush administration and they aided in genocides...

Personally I find it funny... but I was a Clinton supporter and still am when you look at the whole of his presidency... I just find it funny that so many Dems are turning on that time in history in order to defeat his wife. I can't wait for the campaigns to heat up in PA! Being in south jersey I'll get to see all the commercials... should be really nasty.

Well this is just silly. are you new to the retort? For the last 7 years all democrats have talked about is the "glorious yesteryear" of the Clinton Administration.

Its that relativivism the Repubs decry so often. Compared to what we've had the last 7 years, Bill's presidencey was indeed the glorydays. But that was then and this is now. The inability to come to terms with the Demcrats ability to adjust to changing circumstances again points to a psychological frailty of the Repubs.

And no, I'm not new to the Retort. Posted under a different name round 5 years ago, lost interest, but now I'm back to enjoy the demise of the Republican party.

Obamamaniacs like to say that Clinton's only experience was as first lady and she never had to make any real decisions, but then want to blame her for Rwanda (or any other problems during Bill's presidency.) You need to get your story straight, either her experience means nothing or it does, you can't (or shouldn't) have it both ways.

Ryan here is the deal. She wants to claim that Her time in the WhiteHouse as First Lady makes Her qualified to be President now. Ok She wants it that way then people have every right under the sun to criticise Her lack of action in places like Rwanda and other places. It's all fair to condemn Her on that.

Larry Mohr

I agree with you, I think her experience counts. I just think it's unfair to criticize her on one hand for her experience and on the other try to minimize that experience. You appear to understand this, maybe you're not the Obama fan who tries to minimize her experience, but there are many others (including the writer of the above article.)

She will make a great President because she's already been vetted and understands the system. It's anybody's guess how Obama will fare. He may be our next great President (Abraham Lincoln in waiting), but he may be another Carter who will accomplish little. I don't see why Obama fans want to take such a risk when Clinton is standing there with incredible experience and a known track record.

I agree with earlier posters who find it ironic that Bill Clinton's presidency is being trashed in the name of getting Obama elected. The Clintons have done so much for this party. I find it difficult to believe that fellow Democrats would turn on such a wonderful couple, unfortunately, that's politics.

"either her experience means nothing or it does, you can't (or shouldn't) have it both ways."

You do realize, don't you, that Hillary's the one yammering on about all this "experience"? And yet, when that "experience" is actually examined, it comes to nothing more than cheerleading and trailing along in Bubba's wake.

"I find it difficult to believe that fellow Democrats would turn on such a wonderful couple"

ROTFLMAO

No kidding Doc. We need a sarcasm flag.

The Clinton's are all about themselves.

Show her for what she really is and all of Bubba's dirty deals and no one will want them back.

Let the sun shine in and let the Obamarama continue.

I'm with you on that and bipartisan. Scumbags of all stripes need to be exposed and neutered.

ROB

Bill Clinton did a good job. They've had their 8 years.

We are seriously divided in America - to the point our government is in gridlock and we're spiraling downward. I want something new. Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton 2.0 or Bush 3.0 is not something I want.

Hillary's too divisive, McCain's too old, and now he's turning into George W Bush II.

hey Rob,

Why don't explain to me how he's gonna destroy the healthcare system?

I didn't think so.

McCain's too old

Why should his age have anything to do with it?

ROB

The Presidency makes old men out of young men. Sure, he's in good health, but he's also not having to deal with the rigorous stresses of being President. Congress takes a lot of breaks, and their work day isn't nearly as long as a President's.

If you think the GOP is going to work with Obama, I think you are sorely mistaken

With a large enough majority in the Senate that won't be an issue. Obama's better suited to turn enough seats around Dem for a filibuster proof majority.

Look, McCain's the most palatable Republican they could have run. I want something new. But, then again, I've lived through twice as many presidencies, and so I'm looking at things a little differently. You were in grade school when the first Bush was elected, so perhaps you don't feel the same sense of the 'same old same old' I would. My age also gives me the perspective of how far down we've gone in the last few decades as well.

No slight on you. We see things from the differently.

PS ROB

You're getting a taste of sleepless nights with one baby. Multiply that by 10 and that might be a plausible indicator of what it's like to be President.

How are you enjoying fatherhood? Bet you're still bursting with joy when you're not yawning.

What kind of world do you want him to grow up in? If things stay on the course they're on now, he'll grow up in a world that resembles the one you grew up in very little.

If things stay on the course they're on now, he'll grow up in a world that resembles the one you grew up in very little.


It'll more resemble Max Headroom, Bladerunner, and Soylent Green.

Besides being too old, McCain is also a philandering, war mongering, crazy, nutty PSTD case with no grasp of economic issues, whose flip flopping and pandering make him unfit to be trusted with the responsibility of POTUS.



Besides that, he's not honest enough to admit he's too old.

Or just selfish.


He's owed, dammit.

Why don't explain to me how he's gonna destroy the healthcare system?

I didn't think so.

Posted by tigerbalm


Sure, when you start up a massive beauracratic healthcare system the people who are going to get screwed are the doctors. Newsflash: Docotors only partly become doctors to help people... the other part (and in many cases the more important part) is to get paid, and get paid well.

So fuck with how doctors get paid and you will see a small trend become the norm. What is that trend? The best doctors only accepting cash, up front, before they do anything, and then let John Q. Patient deal with getting reimbursed.

So then what are you left with? You're left with people who can afford to pay out of pocket getting far better treatment and those who can't getting very poor treatment.

How are you enjoying fatherhood? Bet you're still bursting with joy when you're not yawning.

Its phenominal... better then I could have ever expected...

What kind of world do you want him to grow up in? If things stay on the course they're on now, he'll grow up in a world that resembles the one you grew up in very little.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


Well for starters, unfortunately he's missing a penis... But I hope she grows up in a world with all the advantages and opportunities to grow up to be successful and happy. :)

I have seen nothing in Barack Obama to make me think that he will change the world. He's a one term senator who has done nothing except give decent speeches... All talk and no walk doesn't inspire me.

DETH

Right you are about Reagan. It's pretty well documented that he was not running the country - let alone his own potty schedule - the last few years of his presidency.

Sorry, 72, heck even 80, may not be too old to be a Senator, but it certainly is to be President.

PS SPUD

I'm putting together a little YouTube video for St. Patty's Day:

"O'Bama Boy" (the delegates are callin'..from state to state they're flocking to your side...) - to the tune of "Oh, Danny Boy" (which happens to be my name, and my late dad's favorite song, of course). Should have it up later tomorrow night or Tuesday. I'll post a link when it's done. I'll be doing my best impression of an Irish Tenor. Hope it brings a tear to your eye laddy..... LOL

I tried it out last night at the St. Patty's party my wife an I went to, and people got a good kick out of it.

Gee ROB

And W's glowing qualifications as a governor (and Bill Clinton's) were....??

It's all about judgment and intelligence. W's a disaster. Bill did a great job in comparison.

Excuse the 'he' assumption on your kid.

PS ROB

The election of Barack Obama will instantly change the world's perspective of America from that of a bully asshole country to a land of opportunity. That'll change the world in 5 minutes on January 20th, 2009.

Bush changed the world, but not in any way that could remotely be called good.

You don't travel much do you?

FDR was a one term Governor. A 12 year presidency lifted the country out of a depression, he got people to work, and then went on to masterfully win WW2 in concert with our allies.

Lincoln had never served at the national level.

Time in Washingon D.C. is not a gauge to measure how 'experienced' a person is. Life experience is.

Again, W's two terms as Texas governor still left him an incompetent moron.

It's all about judgment and how level headed you are. Obama stays cool under pressure. He's brilliant. He'll appoint equally brilliant people to fill important positions, not ideologues as W did.

In 2008 America we need brilliant, level headed people. McCain's temper and age concern me. Hillary's divisiveness is not what is best for America.

I know you won't be voting for any Dem, so I'd hope for the one that the world will like and respect along with a larger majority of Americans.

Docotors only partly become doctors to help people... the other part (and in many cases the more important part) is to get paid, and get paid well.

Rob,

I worked in the healthcare system for many years. Doctors indeed are rightfully well paid. But there are many hands taking a big piece of that healthcare dollar that really provide no meaningful part in the delivery system.

Obama does not have plans to nationalize the system. His plan is to address waste and inefficiency and to provide subsidies for those who cannot afford it.

I'm fully aware of the wall of intrenched greed he will face (health care has been a cash cow for lots of people not wearing labcoats), but at least he will take it on.

Well said Tigerbalm!

The doctors who actually got into medicine to help people are working at community clinics that are miraculously able to provide good care for a fraction of what retail medical clinics charge.

"He'll appoint equally brilliant people to fill important positions...
ROTFLMAO

Obama stays cool under pressure.

When has he ever been under pressure?

The one time the press really came after him he whined and ran off... What pressure?

When has he ever been under pressure?

The one time the press really came after him he whined and ran off... What pressure?

Go back into the oven, Barack. You ain't done cooking yet.

Go back into the oven, Barack. You ain't done cooking yet.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-03-10 09:49 AM | Reply


Geesh, I don't know, he looks a little burnt to me...


hardee har har

Tip your waiterers and waitresses.

Go back into the oven, Barack. You ain't done cooking yet.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-03-10 09:49 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

And how much baking is required to suit Your fancy JeffJ?? Until He is a hard crust with dry center?? Wouldn't You rather have someone with a firm crust but soft moist insides?? You spend too much time in the oven You wind up burnt crispy. ALA John McBushSuckUp.

Larry Mohr

Larry,


And how much baking is required to suit Your fancy JeffJ??

How 'bout until the oven bakes him into a Conservative?

;-)

Ummmmmm since Conservatives hate change that would mean Conservatives are still in dough form cause it requires baking to change dough into a loaf of bread.

Larry Mohr

Wouldn't You rather have someone with a firm crust but soft moist insides??.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-03-10 09:56 AM | Reply


Larry, we're talking about a Presidential Candidate, not hookers.

Larry,


Ummmmmm since Conservatives hate change that would mean Conservatives are still in dough form cause it requires baking to change dough into a loaf of bread.

We are not talking about bread; we are talking about chocolate chip cookies. I argue that choco-cookie dough tests better than the baked end result.

Cookies are like so much pork spending. Sure they taste great but they don't fullfill the needs of the whole population like bread and butter does. So while I grant You cookie dough is up there with the greats of culinary goodness it still isn't as fullfilling as say bread which blooms in the stomache creating a nice full feeling that carries You much further than the cookie dough.

Larry Mohr

How about Hillary with a soft moist outside and a hard crust inside?

I'm creating 15 new accounts so that 101 receives the proper number of funny flags for his last comment...

Lawdy-lawdy that's some funny sheeee-it!

Whoops... second to last... the one about Obama...

Though the hooker one was hysterical too

"Newsflash: Docotors only partly become doctors to help people... the other part (and in many cases the more important part) is to get paid, and get paid well. So fuck with how doctors get paid and you will see a small trend become the norm. What is that trend? The best doctors only accepting cash, up front, before they do anything, and then let John Q. Patient deal with getting reimbursed."

Man, if Rob's World is really like that, I'm going elsewhere. But I fear that his take may be a bit more accurate than his usual weltanschauung. In a civilized country health care and the profit motive would be as separate as (in theory) church and state. Make "healers" comfortable, give them what they need and let them heal. If they're in it for big bucks, encourage them to become corporate CEOs or defend corporate CEOs from damage suits. I HATE going to one who puts the fee ahead of ME. herm

In a civilized country health care and the profit motive would be as separate as (in theory) church and state

Assface,
I know more about this than you could ever hope to. Profit has to be a major part of healthcare or you would have the world's shittiest doctors.

Think about it if you can.

To become a doctor:

4 years of College where you must study your ass off, and take a test called the MCAT just to be considered for Med School. Then after getting into Medical school you have to start all over with another 4 years of schooling... This schooling costs upwards of $200,000. Now if you want to be matched to the best programs you have to work your ass off here too. Then after 8 years of schooling you are matched into your internship/residency program. During which time you will probably make less than most janiors would and along with that you will work at least 80 hours a week. For a surgeon you can expect this period to go on for 4-6 years. Following that, it is in the doctors' best interest to do a fellowship. Typically 1-2 years of specialized training at still low pay and ridiculous hours. Finally you can become a board certified doctor finally finished with all the training (though you constantly have to keep up with new procedures/drugs/equipment)

Now... you expect someone to go through 12-15 years of schooling and training incurring debts in the hundreds of thousands of dollars only to make $50K a year? that's fucking stupid... NO ONE would ever sign up to be a doctor if that were the case. So you can take that "health care and the profit motive" shit and shove it up your ass... Someone goes through all that and you want to call them uncivilized because they expect compensation for the time and effort they've put in?

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go pay another med school loan bill.

The US healthcare is ranked 37th, while Cuba is ranked 39th.

If you can afford healthcare in this country there is no better place to receive it. that's why when people need life saving treatments, or life improving surgeries (etc, etc, etc) they fly from all over the world to America.

Furthermore, I said doctors. The problem with our system in this country is not the doctors, its the insurance companies and the drug companies and such. Our Medschool system and training system (internship/residency/
fellowship) is as good as it gets...

Fuck with doctors' pay and yeah, then you might want to go to cuba... better to die in the warm sun then in cold chicago.

We just need more doctors. The VA has gone to Nurse Practitioners, and they are okay for check ups and most primary care needs, but then they also act as a gatekeeper for the doctors and that's not always the best deal for the patient.

More doctors, more nurses, and more self reliance so the sniffles don't end up in the ER. They only go there because they can not be turned away, yet they also get billed and that can be both a loss for the hospital and a ding on someone's credit if they can't pay.

Growing up my primary care included minor surgery, something no doc does anymore - that's for a specialist, and that's part of the high cost which is driven by demand.

"I know more about this than you could ever hope to. Profit has to be a major part of healthcare or you would have the world's shittiest doctors."

I doubt that there is a single facet of human endeavor about which Wobbie knows more than I do. Not one. But he seems to imply that the outrageous costs of medical school justify the outrageously greedy behavior of medical practitioners. In civilized lands, Wobbie (I'm not sure any exist), not only are health care and the profit motive divorced, but medical training goes according to ability rather than wealth. Wobbie accuses me of being "fucking stupid," but being senile as well, I seem to recall a time in which "healers" were motivated by the idea of healing, of helping those who need help, and not Big Bucks. I just suspect that in my dotage, I have enough IQ left to watch wits with Wobbie with one hand tied behind my back. Assface. herm

I just suspect that in my dotage, I have enough IQ left to watch wits with Wobbie with one hand tied behind my back. Assface. herm


that's certainly obvious:

how about George W. Bush? More mass murders than Hitler or Stalin

Posted by herm at 2006-07-24 11:48 PM


that high IQ was in overdrive that day huh?

When it comes to the road to becoming a doctor, why they should be paid what they get, and why you shouldn't fuck with that... you are out of your leauge you old douche...

Go back to saying Bush killed more people then Hitler or Stalin... dumbass.

Funny how all the 'rah rah Bushies' want to carp endlessly about how Obama isn't ready to be CiC when he sits on the Foreign Intelligence Committee, he's traveled to numerous countries overseas, and yet Bush hadn't been anywhere but a drunk weekend in Mexico before being elected - with the results of his 'decidership' proving him so obviously and tragically incompetent.

Being married to a future doctor doesn't make anyone an expert at anything but counting chickens.

I have a lot of doctors in my family who've been practicing for 30 or more years, and yet I claim no such expertise.

I can see ROB's license plate: HUBOFDOC

That's like claiming W had 'foreign policy experience' because he went to Mexico once and got fucked up.

"Obamamaniacs remind me of the people who followed Jim Jones.

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-03-09 08:21 AM"

Douche Flag.

Being married to a future doctor doesn't make anyone an expert at anything but counting chickens.


Yeah... we've only been together since we were sophmores in college... I didn't help her study while we were there, practice interviewing with her for the med school process, help her fill out the loan applications, travel with her on her Residency Program interviews, help her fill out the match order best so that she had the best chance of getting her #1 (which she did), currently paying off hundreds of dollars a month in consolidated college and medical school loans, I'm not helping her research fellowship programs, and scouting out areas where the speciality she wants are in great demand for attending surgeons...

Nah... You're right AU, I have no idea about what people put into being a doctor... all I'm doing is sitting around waiting for that big check to cash...