there is justice.

Shot him!? Without a trial!? Wait 'til our little leftist-socialist friends gather in protest over THIS! Those damn Israelis just aren't with it.

But lets keep praying for Israel to escalate the violence. After all it is the Christian way.

i'm no longer amazed by your ignorance, 726. do you have any idea of how many acts of violence israel and the rest of the world has suffered at the hands of allah? i'd suggest you do some research, but that would mean seeking the truth and your type are not known for that.

Why do people carry guns?

Because cops are too heavy.

news alert - hamas has claimed responsibility for this travesty.

"Shot him!? Without a trial!? Wait 'til our little leftist-socialist friends gather in protest over THIS! Those damn Israelis just aren't with it.
Posted by jestgettinalong at 2008-03-07 07:04 AM


YEAH!

More idiotic unintended Irony! Israel is a Socialist Run Country you Drip!
And they have free healthcare to all its citizens!

Let's see a gunman backed by Hamas invaided the nation of Israel and killed without provocation citizens of said nation. It is of my opinion that a declaration of war should be declared and the nation that sent the armed gunman be invaided and reduced to a level where it is unable to wage war again. what part of this is so hard to understand???that could either be Gaza or Iran either one or both it dont matter. get it over with now so that it wont be a bigger problem in the future. scorched earth policy workes good.

do you have any idea of how many acts of violence Israel and the rest of the world has suffered at the hands of Allah?

YEAH!

Why don't you fill us in Butch! How Many?

And it should be noted that the sentiment of your words mirror exactly those who we (and you) define as "Terrorist"!
That same rational (irrational as it is) is what drives the continuance of Killing in the Name of your preferred (and twisted) Religion.

Their religion spurs on their Hate as well!

i'm no longer amazed by your ignorance, 726. do you have any idea of how many acts of violence israel and the rest of the world has suffered at the hands of allah?

So of course praying for an escalation of violence is the answer. I am not amazed at your ignorance sadly.

WWJK "Who Would Jesus Kill"?

More idiotic unintended Irony! Israel is a Socialist Run Country you Drip!
And they have free healthcare to all its citizens!




Shhhh don't wreck their little right wing pro violence nirvana with socialist ideas. It might cause their heads to explode.

God bless their little hearts.

your name fits you well, redneckville:

""Genocide committed in the name of Allah: 3,000,000 Bangladeshi Hindus Killed during the Pakistan-Bangladesh war in 1971. From 1894 to 1896 Abdul Hamid, Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, killed 150,000 Armenian Christians. In India, Sikh Guru Tegh Bahadur along with his disciples was burned to death by the Moghul ruler Aurangzeb in 1675. Another Sikh, Bhai Mati Das was sawn into right and left halves while he was still alive. In July 1974, 4,000 Christians living in Cyprus were killed by Fahri Koroturk, president of Turkey and his Islamic army. From 1843 to 1846 10,000 Assyrian Christians including women and children were massacred by the Muslims. From 1915 to 1918 750,000 Assyrians were killed in the name of Islamic Jihad. In 1933 thousands of Assyrian villagers were murdered by the Iraqi soldiers in Northern Iraq. Since 1990 more than 10,000 Kashmiri Hindus have been brutally murdered by Islamic fundamentalists. Over 280,000 Ugandans killed during the reign of Idi Amin from 1971 to 1979. Over 30,000 Mauritanians have been killed by the Islamic dictators since 1960. In 1980, 20,000 Syrians were murdered under the rule of Hafez Al-Assad, President of Syria. Since 1992 120,000 Algerians have been murdered by the Islamic fundamentalist army."

see next article over - column three, dhimmitwit.

How does a student shoot a Pali-mutt in the head twice before a soldier kills that Pali-mutt?

I hope Israel decides that retaliation isn't the way to go. They should send Hamas some cell phones and new cars as a peace offering...

When Friday prayers are said, police form a cordon around the audience gathered in the large square beside Al-Jafali Mosque in the Al-Balad district of this city.

In the center of the square, flanked by the imam, the prison warden and a few police officers, kneels the prisoner. He faces the victim's family, who are waiting for him to die. He may beg them to forgive him. They may choose to do so.

The crowd shouts at the prisoner, reminding him of his Shahada, or at the victim's family, asking for forgiveness.

The prisoner is examined by a doctor, and most of the time he is given a sedative to help him get a hold of himself. Across the square, the prisoner's family are weeping and begging the victim's family to forgive. A medical team and Red Crescent ambulances are standing by.

The prisoner now recites verses from the Qur'an while a government official reads the charges and the verdict. Halfway through the reading the executioner suddenly nicks the back of the prisoner's neck with his sword, causing him to tense and raise his head involuntarily.

Then, in one swift move, the executioner separates the prisoner's head from his body. Several spectators faint, and the executioner is pulled from the scene lest he get carried away and injure someone else with his sword.

This is the scenario unless the victim's family forgive the prisoner at the last minute, in which case the atmosphere all of a sudden changes to the joy one might expect at a wedding, with people cheering and blessing the family.

The reaction of the spectators can vary widely. At the execution of three men for murder, the family of the victim were screaming hysterically for the loss of their father. The audience shouted at the executioner: "Kill these criminals. Take off their heads. God bless you." There was a common feeling of anger toward the three killers, and each time the executioner took off a head, the shout went up: "Allahu Akbar (God is great)."

On another occasion the victim's father delighted the audience seconds before the execution by walking into the middle of the square and announcing that he forgave the prisoner.

Execution by sword is usually reserved for men, while women are shot. However, in areas where there are no swordsmen, men may also be executed by bullet. When execution is by sword, the prisoner's head must be separated completely from the body. Usually this only takes one attempt, though it can take two or three.

If the prisoner is shot, two bullets are used, one to the heart and one to the neck. In preparation, doctors mark the area where the bullets should hit.

Statistics show that between 2000 and 2002, 43 executions were carried out, 33 of them on Saudis. Two women were executed, one Saudi and one Indonesian. All the executions were for murder.



Gotta love those wacky Saudis.

MIDEAST PEACE PLAN - - BULLDOZE GAZA!

Terrible event. As long as both sides negotiate with bullets, bombs and tanks, this will not end.

Why has the U.N., Nato, whatever not been deployed to that area, to try to stabilize the situation as much as they can, let the idiots sit down and negotiate as an alternative to the systematic killing of innocent people on both sides.

Knee jerking will just perpetuate the mess.

Huhum, please remember, violence solved every boxing match...every football game...every war.

Diplomacy only prolonged the inevitable, and more often than not made the original conflict worse.


The great diplomat Neville Chamberlain, on the virtue of diplomacy: "We have peace in our time!"

...uhuh...right! In a pig's eye!

Statistics show that between 2000 and 2002, 43 executions were carried out, 33 of them on Saudis. Two women were executed, one Saudi and one Indonesian. All the executions were for murder.

Gotta love those wacky Saudis.

Posted by 726

And just exactly what is wrong with that? All the executions were for murder.

Diplomacy only prolonged the inevitable, and more often than not made the original conflict worse.
Posted by DoubtingThomas at 2008-03-07 10:46 AM


YEAH!

See the Miserable Failure known as the Cuban Missile Crisis!

"About 7,000 Gazans marched in the streets of Jebaliya to celebrate the attack, firing in the air and visiting homes of those killed and wounded in the last Israeli incursion. In the southern town of Rafah, residents distributed sweets to drivers and terrorists fired mortars in celebration.

At mosques in Gaza City and the northern Gaza Strip, many residents performed prayers of thanksgiving - only performed in cases of great victory to thank God."

"""Diplomacy only prolonged the inevitable, and more often than not made the original conflict worse."""

Bullshit. Negotiation is the starting point to resolving conflict or avoiding escalation. Equating a conflict between two countries to a boxing match or a football game is an oversimplification of the issues and consequences at hand.

Hey,Redneckville, in case you weren't counting, or maybe can't add well, that's 4,374,000 deaths in the name of Allah and that doesn't include the 3,000 killed on 9/11. And that's just the documented deaths.

Now, I know there are those who like to bring up the Crusades when this topic comes up, but I just don't think that campaign will come very close to 4 million plus.

Now if this were in the USA, this school would have been a no gun zone.

I'll propose that we would be arguing that guns are bad because the person shooting up the school got his hands on one and did this.

But the student here in this case was able to end it, because they had one.

I'll offer this is the counter argument that "guns are bad"

give the guns to the good guys, and we can stop the bad guys, instead of hiding under a desk until they come shoot us.

Oh but the beloved UN can not even issue a condemnation of the attack!!!!

"""Now if this were in the USA, this school would have been a no gun zone. """

Context and motivation in this case are so different from those responsible for the rampages we've seen in NA that your post has no solid foundation, just a nice nra spin. Try again.

"I suggest that before forwarding claims of a superior faith using articles of history ----- you first try to learn something from it (history)!"




Well it's nice to have someone like red to tell us how much better atheism is the any religion. After all it's the religion not the men who do these awful things. And it's not like an atheist ever killed anyone, oh wait, what was his name, he killed millions, specifically went after churches, was leftist to the extreme, executed, deported, starved, tortured, oh thats right Joseph Stalin.

but I just don't think that campaign will come very close to 4 million plus.
Posted by everlong at 2008-03-07 11:54 AM


YEAH!

Over 20,000 died in the inquisition alone and In Spain itself 1.1 million people died in ONE of the NINE papal crusades ----- of which all ended (miserably) in the enslavement, misery and destruction of a people!
Please stop comforting yourself by pretending that your religion, when used to justify barbaric and inhuman acts, is somehow a kinder gentler murderer of innocent people!

Over 20,000 died in the inquisition alone and In Spain itself 1.1 million people died in ONE of the NINE papal crusades

You lefties get your panties in a wad when someone mentions "Clinton's blow job" 11 years ago. Yet you reach back 800 years for a deflection.

If you're going to be hypocritical, gotta give you credit for doing it on a grand scale.

Over 20,000 died in the inquisition alone and In Spain itself 1.1 million people died in ONE of the NINE papal crusades


I know there are those who like to bring up the Crusades when this topic comes up, but I just don't think that campaign will come very close to 4 million plus.


YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT A PAST EVENT...Lets look at whats happening now....because that is whats going to effect us

If one does not learn from past events it will affect their future endeavors.

Larry Mohr

If one does not learn from past events it will affect their future endeavors.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-03-07 02:10 PM | Reply |


Must...resist....urge.....to..
.....comment

"Context and motivation in this case are so different from those responsible for the rampages we've seen in NA that your post has no solid foundation, just a nice nra spin. Try again."


context and motivation do not matter here.

setting, activity, outcome do

setting: School
activity: school shooting
outcome: dead assailant

so... again, our schools....no gun zones, shooters go on and on until they get bored and off themselves.

in this case, a student was carrying, and off the the assailant before he could go on killing.


also, I'm not a mouthpiece for the NRA...my opinions are my own, so please don't assign my affiliations for me...I'm quite capable of forming my own opinions and not just regurgitating other peoples or groups talking points.

"From 1843 to 1846 10,000 Assyrian Christians including women and children were massacred by the Muslims"
Posted by nanc at 2008-03-07 09:42 AM


"You lefties get your panties in a wad when someone mentions "Clinton's blow job" 11 years ago. Yet you reach back 800 years for a deflection."
Posted by goatman at 2008-03-07 01:55 PM |

YEAH!

I await the same level of condemnation for this!

Past is prologue...

This is really telling to me. A couple of nuts kill seven people in Israel and there's talk of condemnation at the UN. Meanwhile, in Iraq, another nut kills over 60 people and it's yesterdays news. No one speaking out at the UN, no outrage, no shock.

Why is one so newsworthy and the other not?

again

this was a terrible tragedy

but nanc
look up the numbers of deaths done in the name of democracy in the last 25 years

democracy or rather because america is 75% christian and gw is a christian crusader by his own words

christianity has killed 600,000 civilians just in iraq

explain that??

"""so... again, our schools....no gun zones, shooters go on and on until they get bored and off themselves.

in this case, a student was carrying, and off the the assailant before he could go on killing."""


Oh, I forgot that the u.s. was in an armed and violent conflict with the people living on the neighboring lands you occupy....


The only resemblance in both scenarios is that it's a school. Every other parameter is different, so your comparison is still useless and your point about arming students is still an nra talking point. You're maybe not their mouthpiece, but you are regurgitating their talking points.

"Gaza: Thousands celebrate Jerusalem attack

Palestinians distribute sweets in celebration of Jerusalem terror attack as Hamas promises 'this is only the beginning'

Gaza's streets filled with joyous crowds of thousands on Thursday evening following the terror attack at a Jerusalem rabbinical seminary in which eight people were killed.

In mosques in Gaza City and northern Gaza, many residents went to perform the prayers of thanksgiving.

Armed men fired in the air in celebration and others passed out sweets to passersby.

Hamas stopped just short of claiming responsibility but issued a statement saying the group "blesses the (Jerusalem) operation...."

This is really telling to me. A couple of nuts kill seven people in Israel and there's talk of condemnation at the UN. Meanwhile, in Iraq, another nut kills over 60 people and it's yesterdays news. No one speaking out at the UN, no outrage, no shock. Why is one so newsworthy and the other not? Posted by Generico

It is telling. That is not to say the killings in Israel do not justify their news worthiness. The senseless killings of innocence throughout the Mid. East, esp Iraq and Afgan by vicious, heartless thugs under gang names like Al Quida and Taliban are every bit as evil. Blame us for being there or not, they were doing the same before our little war. It's probally no different than if the Crips or Bloods were doing the same here. Maybe the news is putting more effort into pursuading the public to turn against the US military and that dastardly George Bush, than highlighting the real blood thirsty killers.

You da man Salamanda! Those damned Christians!

Pancho...

you seriously can't see the similarities to a gunman in a school

and

a gunman in a school

???

If we can't agree on at least that, then well as discussion is pretty useless.

Student in Jeruslelam shot a whackjob shooter himself keeping the casualty count lower than it might have been?

Good fer him sez Spud!

Is this an argument for concealed carry on campus in Israel, the US and elsewhere?

Yes, actually it is. Spud believes that teachers certainly and campus security and even students aged 21 and above with no history of mental illness or felonies should be allowed to CC on Campus.

Never checked out the history behind Purim before.

As recounted in the biblical Book of Esther, Haman, advisor to Persian king Ahashverosh (probably Xerxes, reigned 486-465 BCE), was infuriated that Mordechai, a Jew, refused to bow down before him. He plotted against the Jews and received an edict from the king ordering their destruction. The king did not realize that his own wife, Queen Esther, was herself a Jew. Following Esther's intervention, the King revoked the edict and had Haman and his sons hanged on the very gallows that they had prepared for the Jews.

Irony points fer that story.

Be Well.

"We have peace in our time!"

Mr Doubtingthomas-

saying that "we have peace" and working toward the goal of actually having peace is not the same thing...

Trust but verify...something Neville didn't learn.

Diplomacy is always better than war.

War should always be the last choice... not the first choice.

But, like Teddy Roosevelt said, "Speak softly and carry a big stick!"

Should have happened like this at VT, Columnbine and schools across the nation.

Concealed carry could make a change.

It's just another tit-for-tat in a war that has been going on for 60 years. Did the Israelis think they were moving into Mr. Roger's neighborhood?

that would be fine and dandy, ray, had it not been a barren wasteland with no amenities when the israelis returned.

they've made it what it is today and all the muslims have done is wrought ugliness on what could be a very good thing.