Although this is something most Retort Obama supporters already know and deal with on a daily basis, its still nice to acknowledge that actual information drives the movement toward Obama and away from Hillary Clinton. The Clinton campaign's latest mantra that words don't bring change only underscores just how out of touch they remain with the American electorate and why they've lost 11 straight primary contests in a row.

This is certainly more evidence that high-education voters favor Obama not because there's something effete and latte-ish about his campaign, but because voters who pay more attention to the campaign tend to favor him, because he's just a better politician.

Something we've been trying to get Corky to acknowledge for quite some time.... As the old adage states, "You can't beat something with nothing."

Oh! This should be fun! Wait till Corky gets here!

Clinton should be trouncing Obama. Seriously. The fact that she isn't is indicative of her organizational skills. She's simply not competent.

Now she's going shrill. She's raging against the dying of the light.

Ah, the hubris of the elitists is alive and well in Tony Roma as well as in George Bush. How comforting.


Perhaps there WILL need to be a third party candidate to reflect the concerns of the traditional Dem base of the middle-class and the poor, since they are obviously too stupid and ill informed to vote for Obama.

Oh the point of the above post is to show how stupid her voters are that they cheer her anti-NAFTA rhetoric when she was a part of the cause.

"Hey you know how your husband lost his job due to NAFTA that I supported? Well, now Im against it and going to fix it!" Nod Nod Nod

The crowd cheers! Yeah Hilderbeast will fix it!

Dumb sheep to slaughter

Hillary Clinton tells Ohioans NAFTA needs to be somehow changed and has nothing to say about trade with China.

Nod Nod Nod

Her bobblehead makes me crazy. If she cackles while she does it, my head would explode.

Could be they've just read things like this.




Cherchez la femme," advised Alexander Dumas in: "When you want to uncover an unspecified secret, look for the woman." In the case of Barack Obama, we have two: his late mother, the went-native anthropologist Ann Dunham, and his rancorous wife Michelle. Obama's women reveal his secret: he hates America.

We know less about Senator Obama than about any prospective president in American history. His uplifting rhetoric is empty, as Hillary Clinton helplessly protests. His career bears no trace of his own character, not an article for the Harvard Law Review he



edited, or a single piece of legislation. He appears to be an empty vessel filled with the wishful thinking of those around him. But there is a real Barack Obama. No man - least of all one abandoned in infancy by his father - can conceal the imprint of an impassioned mother, or the influence of a brilliant wife.

America is not the embodiment of hope, but the abandonment of one kind of hope in return for another. America is the spirit of creative destruction, selecting immigrants willing to turn their back on the tragedy of their own failing culture in return for a new start. Its creative success is so enormous that its global influence hastens the decline of other cultures. For those on the destruction side of the trade, America is a monster. Between half and nine-tenths of the world's 6,700 spoken languages will become extinct in the next century, and the anguish of dying peoples rises up in a global cry of despair. Some of those who listen to this cry become anthropologists, the curators of soon-to-be extinct cultures; anthropologists who really identify with their subjects marry them. Obama's mother, the University of Hawaii anthropologist Ann Dunham, did so twice.

Obama profiles Americans the way anthropologists interact with primitive peoples. He holds his own view in reserve and emphatically draws out the feelings of others; that is how friends and colleagues describe his modus operandi since his days at the Harvard Law Review, through his years as a community activist in Chicago, and in national politics. Anthropologists, though, proceed from resentment against the devouring culture of America and sympathy with the endangered cultures of the primitive world. Obama inverts the anthropological model: he applies the tools of cultural manipulation out of resentment against America. The probable next president of the United States is a mother's revenge against the America she despised.

Ann Dunham died in 1995, and her character emerges piecemeal from the historical record, to which I will return below. But Michelle Obama is a living witness. Her February 18 comment that she felt proud of her country for the first time caused a minor scandal, and was hastily qualified. But she meant it, and more. The video footage of her remarks shows eyes hooded with rage as she declares:
For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment.

The desperation, frustration and disappointment visible on Michelle Obama's face are not new to the candidate's wife; as Steve Sailer, Rod Dreher and other commentators have noted, they were the theme of her undergraduate thesis, on the subject of "blackness" at Princeton University. No matter what the good intentions of Princeton, which founded her fortunes as a well-paid corporate lawyer, she wrote, "My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my 'Blackness' than ever before. I have found that at Princeton no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my White professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong."

Never underestimate the influence of a wife who bitch-slaps her husband in public. Early in Obama's campaign, Michelle Obama could not restrain herself from belittling the senator. "I have some difficulty reconciling the two images I have of Barack Obama. There's Barack Obama the phenomenon. He's an amazing orator, Harvard Law Review, or whatever it was, law professor, best-selling author, Grammy winner. Pretty amazing, right? And then there's the Barack Obama that lives with me in my house, and that guy's a little less impressive," she told a fundraiser in February 2007.

"For some reason this guy still can't manage to put the butter up when he makes toast, secure the bread so that it doesn't get stale, and his five-year-old is still better at making the bed than he is." New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd reported at the time, "She added that the TV version of Barack Obama sounded really interesting and that she'd like to meet him sometime." Her handlers have convinced her to be more tactful since then.

"Frustration" and "disappointment" have dogged Michelle Obama these past 20 years, despite her US$300,000 a year salary and corporate board memberships. It is hard for the descendants of slaves not to resent America. They were not voluntary immigrants but kidnap victims, subjected to a century of second-class citizenship even after the Civil War ended slavery. Blackness is not the issue; General Colin Powell, whose parents chose to immigrate to America from the West Indies, saw America just as other immigrants do, as a land of opportunity. Obama's choice of wife is a failsafe indicator of his own sentiments. Spouses do not necessarily share their likes, but they must have their hatreds in common. Obama imbibed this hatred with his mother's milk.

Michelle Obama speaks with greater warmth of her mother-in-law than of her husband. "She was kind of a dreamer, his mother," Michelle Obama was quoted in the January 25 Boston Globe. "She wanted the world to be open to her and her children. And as a result of her naivete, sometimes they lived on food stamps, because sometimes dreams don't pay the rent. But as a result of her naivete, Barack got to see the world like most of us don't in this country." How strong the ideological motivation must be of a mother to raise her children on the thin fair in pursuit of a political agenda.

Perhaps there WILL need to be a third party candidate to reflect the concerns of the traditional Dem base of the middle-class and the poor, since they are obviously too stupid and ill informed to vote for Obama.



Posted by Corky at 2008-02-26 10:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's what the Dem Super Delegates are for Corky....so that the nominating process of the voters can be trumped by the elitist Super Delegates (because they are all knowing) and can bring the nomination to the "one" that the "too stupid and ill informed" (your words) of the party can't recognize. You are really using an ill advised circular argument here that works against you.

"Naivete" is a euphemism for Ann Dunham's motivation. Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report. Many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice. Ann Dunham met and married the Kenyan economics student Barack Obama, Sr, at the University of Hawaii in 1960, and in 1967 married the Indonesian student Lolo Soetero. It is unclear why Soetero's student visa was revoked in 1967 - the fact but not the cause are noted in press accounts. But it is probable that the change in government in Indonesia in 1967, in which the leftist leader Sukarno was deposed, was the motivation.

Soetero had been sponsored as a graduate student by one of the most radical of all Third World governments. Sukarno had founded the so-called Non-Aligned Movement as an anti-colonialist turn at the 1955 Bandung Conference in Indonesia. Before deposing him in 1967, Indonesia's military slaughtered 500,000 communists (or unfortunates who were mistaken for communists). When Ann Dunham chose to follow Lolo Soetero to Indonesia in 1967, she brought the six-year-old Barack into the kitchen of anti-colonialist outrage, immediate following one of the worst episodes of civil violence in post-war history.

Dunham's experience in Indonesia provided the material for a doctoral dissertation celebrating the hardiness of local cultures against the encroaching metropolis. It was entitled, "Peasant blacksmithing in Indonesia: surviving against all odds". In this respect Dunham remained within the mainstream of her discipline. Anthropology broke into popular awareness with Margaret Mead's long-discredited Coming of Age in Samoa (1928), which offered a falsified ideal of sexual liberation in the South Pacific as an alternative to the supposedly repressive West. Mead's work was one of the founding documents of the sexual revolution of the 1960s, and anthropology faculties stood at the left-wing fringe of American universities.

In the Global South, anthropologists went into the field and took matters a step further. Peru's brutal Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path) guerilla movement was the brainchild of the anthropologist

Continued 1 2

Efrain Morote Best, who headed the University of San Cristobal of Huamanga in Ayacucho, Peru, between 1962 and 1968. Dunham's radicalism was more vicarious; she ended her career as an employee of international organizations.

Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. In the Muslim world of the 1960s, nationalism rather than radical Islam was the ideology of choice among the enraged. Radical Islam did not emerge as a major



political force until the nationalism of a Gamal Abdel Nasser or a Sukarno failed.

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech.

America has the great misfortune to have encountered Obama at the peak of his powers at its worst moment of vulnerability in a generation. With malice aforethought, he has sought out their sore point.

Since the Ronald Reagan boom began in 1984, the year the American stock market doubled, Americans have enjoyed a quarter-century of rising wealth. Even the collapse of the Internet bubble in 2000 did not interrupt the upward trajectory of household assets, as the housing price boom eclipsed the effect of equity market weakness. America's success made it a magnet for the world's savings, and Americans came to believe that they were riding a boom that would last forever, as I wrote recently [1].

Americans regard upward mobility as a God-given right. America had a double founding, as David Hackett Fischer showed in his 1989 study, Albion's Seed . Two kinds of immigrants founded America: religious dissidents seeking a new Promised Land, and economic opportunists looking to get rich quick. Both elements still are present, but the course of the past quarter-century has made wealth-creation the sine qua non of American life. Now for the first time in a generation Americans have become poorer, and many of them have become much poorer due to the collapse of home prices. Unlike the Reagan years, when cutting the top tax rate from a punitive 70% to a more tolerable 40% was sufficient to start an economic boom, no lever of economic policy is available to fix the problem. Americans have no choice but to work harder, retire later, save more and retrench.

Krispee's off his/her meds. Pharmacy STAT!

Corky, I thought Hillary wanted credit for those eitght years in office. If that is the case then she has to take the good with the bad, she can't cherry pick the policies she liked and ignore the ones that didn't work out in her favor. Moreover, I bet you could tell me what she said about NAFTA in her book.

This reversal has provoked a national mood of existential crisis. In Europe, economic downturns do not inspire this kind of soul-searching, for richer are poorer, remain what they always have been. But Americans are what they make of themselves, and the slim makings of 2008 shake their sense of identity. Americans have no institutionalized culture to fall back on. Their national religion has consisted of waves of enthusiasm - "Great Awakenings" every second generation or so, followed by an interim of apathy. In times of stress they have a baleful susceptibility to hucksters and conmen.

Be afraid - be very afraid. America is at a low point in its fortunes, and feeling sorry for itself. When Barack utters the word "hope", they instead hear, "handout". A cynic might translate the national motto, E pluribus unum, as "something for nothing". Now that the stock market and the housing market have failed to give Americans something for nothing, they want something for nothing from the government. The trouble is that he who gets something for nothing will earn every penny of it, twice over.

The George W Bush administration has squandered a great strategic advantage in a sorry lampoon of nation-building in the Muslim world, and has made enemies out of countries that might have been friendly rivals, notably Russia. Americans question the premise of America's standing as a global superpower, and of the promise of upward mobility and wealth-creation. If elected, Barack Obama will do his utmost to destroy the dual premises of America's standing. It might take the country another generation to recover.

Corky - Oh, Please..... It was a co-Presidency right? That's why she is ready on day one. Nafta passed on Clintons watch, Bill and Hillary's.

"Obama's women reveal his secret: he hates America. "

You guys are getting pathetically desperate.

"Evil will oft evil mars", J R R Tolkien wrote. It is conceivable that Barack Obama, if elected, will destroy himself before he destroys the country. Hatred is a toxic diet even for someone with as strong a stomach as Obama. As he recalled in his 1995 autobiography, Dreams From My Father, Obama idealized the Kenyan economist who had married and dumped his mother, and was saddened to learn that Barack Hussein Obama, Sr, was a sullen, drunken polygamist. The elder Obama became a senior official of the government of Kenya after earning a PhD at Harvard. He was an abusive drunk and philanderer whose temper soured his career.

The senior Obama died in a 1982 car crash. Kenyan government officials in those days normally spent their nights drinking themselves stupid at the Pan-Afrique Hotel. Two or three of them would be found with their Mercedes wrapped around a palm tree every morning. During the 1970s I came to know a number of them, mostly British-educated hollow men dying inside of their own hypocrisy and corruption.

Both Obama and the American public should be very careful of what they wish for. As the horrible example of Obama's father shows, there is nothing worse for an embittered outsider manipulating the system from within than to achieve his goals - and nothing can be more terrible for the system. Even those who despise America for its blunders of the past few years should ask themselves whether the world will be a safer place if America retreats into a self-pitying shell.

I guess liberal elitism is alive and well.

Kris,

You got a link to your cut and paste? I'd like to read the source.

If TR could cut 'n paste a poll to his ass, he could pull it out whenever he wanted, lmao!


Ride,

Your attempt at thinking is appreciated by everyone here. It is unusual, at least.

But the argument is parallel, not circular.

The Dem Party gets to pick it's candidate however it sees fit. It decided a long time ago to give a certain percentage of the decision to Party members, not a totally surprising move if one wishes to avoid George Clooney or Oprah becoming the latest failed Dem candidate.

I guess liberal elitism is alive and well.

It sure seems that way, just look at Corky's Geraldine Ferraro post. Talk about elitist, she basically says that SDs are the only thing that matters in the Dem nominating process, to hell with the voters.

Right Taxman. This particular thread, however, is no example of elitism. I get it.

"The Dem Party gets to pick it's candidate however it sees fit. It decided a long time ago to give a certain percentage of the decision to Party members, not a totally surprising move if one wishes to avoid George Clooney or Oprah becoming the latest failed Dem candidate."

If the people want George Clooney, George Clooney the people should get. Let them eat cake!

Hillary/Corky: Hey, don't listen to Barack's words, talk is cheap and we're all about making change.

BUT listen to us explain with words just how different we are, and take it to the bank!

If the people want George Clooney, George Clooney the people should get.

Fuckin' A.

Democrats have to protect themselves from themselves. The ultimate Nanny gesture.

-don't listen to Barack's words

Please do, at the above link.

"Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith..."

And I took a World Religions class. So what?

If TR could cut 'n paste a poll to his ass, he could pull it out whenever he wanted, lmao!

If I had a dollar for every thread you've started based on polls, I'd be retired today! ROFLMBBAO!!!

You only hate 'em when they show that ignorance is being replaced by information as more voters see Hillary for the wrong-experienced pantsuit that she really is. Sorry that the truth offends your sensibilities. Get used to it, for more will be on your doorstep about 7 days and 9 hours from now.

-7 days and 9 hours from now.

Fanatics unite!!

I never said Obama wasn't impressive.

One really has to admire how easily Obama brushes off any question that can't be answered with a Rudy Giuliani/911 type answer of, "her Iraq vote".

One of my favorite examples is Obama, asked at the last debate what experience he had that qualified him as CinC, responded knowingly that he would not have run for President if he was not sure he could indeed BE CinC, inciting a thunderous, gasping applause from the Austin/Obama crowd.

He then calmed them, and rambled on several minutes with foreign and defense policy platitudes that could have come from any Dem, or Ron Paul.

But the Obamaided crowd never noticed the non-answer, the truth being of course that he has no national policy experience that qualifies him as the CinC.

None, Zero. Zip. Nada.

Very impressive that he was able to brush off the question so easliy.

Here's another good read, LEE.

Odd that people outside our bubble see us like we are rather unlike those that live here and can't see the handwriting on the wall?

You don't run things like we've been running them for decades and never pay the consequences.

here's an excerpt....

But the Obamaided crowd never noticed the non-answer, the truth being of course that he has no national policy experience that qualifies him as the CinC.

None, Zero. Zip. Nada.

Very impressive that he was able to brush off the question so easliy.


Sounds like Bill Clinton in '92.

What precisely does that mean? "The teacher who works another shift at Dunkin' Donuts needs us to reform the educational system to raise her pay." Is the Federal government planning to subsidize teachers' salaries, which in America are paid by local school boards with city and state taxes? Is he really planning to raise corporate taxes and subsidize mortgage payments?

What it means is that the days of non-supervisory US workers increasing overall productivity 19% in the seven-year period of 2000-2006 while only seeing their compensation increase by $1.60 for the ENTIRE PERIOD is OVER! The plantation workers will not be exploited any longer, and the profits that have NOT TRICKLED DOWN must start to or the entire economy is doomed.

Sorry that simple economics is too hard for you to understand, but economic exploitation must end and a more egalitarian split of the revenues created by the workers must find its way to those who actually create profits, not those merely pushing buttons on their computers while others toil and create actual wealth.

Instead of PEST we will now witness POEM.

POEM. Post Obama Election Meltdown.

POEM. Post Obama Euphoria Meltdown.

POEM. Post Obama Energy Meltdown.

POEM. Post Obama Education Meltdown.

POEM. Post Obama Entitlement Meltdown.

Feel free to add your own.

-Sounds like Bill Clinton in '92.


And that was, in your opinion, a good thing?

Corky,

I might be able to admire your dogmatic support for Hillary if not for the fact that you will go to ANY length to tear down Obama and the Democratic party. For that, quite simply, you suck. You could list and explain the reasons that you're for Hillary without doing the damage to other Democrats. Now you're advocating upthread, a 3rd party candidate to run against Obama. Perhaps you can join the Traitor Nader campaign, they even have paid positions open which just says to me that noone without need for psychotropic meds is supporting him.

Poor Tony. Becoming like Cuba is hardly the answer to our woes.

Questions for Obama and Hillary.


Senators, many respected scientists have stated we have lost much valuable time in combating our present energy crisis by not pursuing nuclear energy. Yes or No. Will you permit the use of nuclear energy in the United States?


Senators, many respected economists say that we could have lessened the blows we currently feel in our energy dependence on foriegn sources. Yes or No. Will you permit the exploration and extraction of domestic resources and allow the building of new refineries to lessen the financial burden many Americans are feeling today through high energy prices while alternative methods continue to be sought?

Senators, Many respected educators feel that the federal model of schools isn't conducive to their geographic areas and their local cultures. Will you disolve the federal department of education and return the responsibility to the rightful parties of state and local governments?

Stop that Andrea! Stuff like that might bring tears to starry eyes. Stop being so insensitive. You're not supposed to ask WHO IS OBAMA?

Poor Tony. Becoming like Cuba is hardly the answer to our woes.

But pre-revolution France is just honky-dory? I can tell you definitely are the one eating cake.

But the Obamaided crowd never noticed the non-answer, the truth being of course that he has no national policy experience that qualifies him as the CinC.

Maybe so but neither did Ronald Reagan or Bill Clinton for that matter. Obama is smart though, and I trust he will have the wisdom to consult with a number of people who do have foreign and national policy experience. I don't think he'll make the kinds of mistakes Bush has made, i.e., getting only the opinions of people who agree with him and ignoring or silencing anyone who gives him info that doesn't suit him (the way Bush did when it came to the Iraq war planning). I believe he will appoint cabinet members who are knowledgeable in areas he is not. No presidential candidate or president knows everything about everything. McCain has admitted he doesn't know much about the economy.

But pre-revolution France is just honky-dory? I can tell you definitely are the one eating cake.


Posted by tonyroma at 2008-02-26 12:20 PM


The term is "hunky dory".

Sick em Rcade, I think he's going to call me a cracker next. lmao

Your guy's going to get the scrutiny he deserves, finally. Who knows, with a little HOPE, maybe they'll even start to ask him some REAL questions for a CHANGE.

But the Obamaided crowd never noticed the non-answer, the truth being of course that he has no national policy experience that qualifies him as the CinC.

What does qualify one to be POTUS afterall? What experience did Harry Truman have?

To me, this is one of the most inane questions to be uttered by supposed intelligent people. We elect Presidents not so much on what they've done but more upon our feelings of what they might be able to achieve by garnering the support of the American people and using it to move an agenda. There are no pre-requisites for being President other than being worthy of the trust given the POTUS by the People and our Constitution.

Its always been an issue of faith and it always will be until the Constitution is changed to allow former Presidents another opportunity for running again.

"Who's Penny Pritzker.....
www.bostonnow.com

Posted by AndreaMackris "

Probably not a good year for Republicans to bring up savings and loan scandals when attacking Obama.

But if they really want to, the Democrats will be more than happy to remind voters of the Keating Five and the questionable practices of George W. McCain.

But pre-revolution France is just honky-dory?

Well, the French are Euros aren't they? (Geesh...can't tell one pastie from another without hearing their accents....)LOL!

David Gergen on CNN recalled last night HRC's non-support for NAFTA while he was in the WH for the reasons of problems with human rights and fairness.

"It was no secret", he said.

Except to the American people when she went around saying stuff like:

Hillary Clinton Said NAFTA Was A Victory For President Clinton, Would Lead To An Economic Improvement. In 1996, on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton "touted the president's support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region."

** On polling: Bloomberg News reported, "Clinton's positioning on trade reflects the changing nature of the debate in the U.S., which increasingly focuses on concerns over outsourcing and the shift of jobs to other nations such as China and India rather than on the benefits of tariff reductions. It also -- as with Republicans grappling over illegal immigration -- demonstrates the extent to which grassroots sentiment can alter candidates' platforms. A Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll conducted in January found 39 percent of Democrats believe free trade hurts the economy; only 18 percent say it is a benefit. Both parties agree that a backlash on trade helped Democrats in the 2006 elections. West Virginia Senator Jay Rockefeller, a Democrat, said U.S. workers have been 'so decimated' by unfettered competition that 'I think the American people understand they will be hit by it.' Clinton promoted her husband's trade agenda for years, and friends say that she's a free-trader at heart." < Bloomberg News, 3/30/07>

"No...he has no plan...
www.thenation.com"

Posted by AndreaMackris


Always good to see conservatives read Left and liberal websites looking for arguments against Obama.

Can't say I blame them, since that is where the only intelligent critiques come from.

Yall need to be watching chicago news for the next days and weeks and months. Obamie might be in the spotlight soon.

Suspense builds.

Oh Nully, you ignore McCain's record while Corky Darling continues to support the unsupportable.

What are we to do with you grrrls?

"Bitches Get Things Done!"

Posted by Corky

You Go Girl...

(Geesh...can't tell one pastie from another without hearing their accents....)LOL!

Posted by tonyroma at 2008-02-26 12:28 PM


I can tell your support for Obama has absolutely nothing to do with race. You a member of the same church?

Hillary has exactly three kind of voters at present.

One, the uninformed, as this article tells us. Folks who don't keep up on politics and don't have a clue wot the stakes truly are. Hillary has aimed her campaign at the lowest common denominator from the get-go hoping that this election cycle would be like all the rest. It isn't.

Second group are the women who will stick with her simply and plainly because she is a female candidate and they would like to see a woman in the WH. Spud would would also like to see a woman POTUS in the WH, just not this woman.

Third group are basically the racists who simply can't bring themselves to vote for a black guy. But in the Dem camp this number is much smaller than in the GOP, the natural home for racists in American politics. See also: Sexists, homophobes, classists and faux christians who consider anybody who doesn't pray like them to be scum.

These three groups will not be enuff to get her elected.

ClintCo, the more you learn the more you loathe.

08ama.

Be Well.

"Bitches Get Things Done!"

Sounds like another finger wagging, "my way or the highway" administration in the offing.

Right, Gal.

Now he can send out millions of mailers explaining that, eh?


Oz,

As soon as there is a, "Backwoods Rednecks Get Things Done!" campaign, you'll be the first to know.

www.ohiodailyblog.com

Good find Gal. Takes a Real Woman to hand Corky Darling his comeuppance. (Not Really but it is Toute Sweet)

Some folks say you can never be too thin, too rich or too bitchy. Well, two out of three ain't bad.

Now Corky Darling, don't so eager to show your ignorance...there is a, "Backwoods Rednecks Get Things Done!" campaign...we just knew a fancy boy like you wouldn't be interested - or qualified to join up.

Now he can send out millions of mailers explaining that, eh?

I think he should stick with the original mailers (anyone with half a brain can see he didn't misquote her), but if you want a new mailer, I suggest he send out one that says this:

Hillary Clinton Said NAFTA Was A Victory For President Clinton, Would Lead To An Economic Improvement. In 1996, on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton "touted the president's support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region."

You can never have too much:

Money
RAM
Horsepower
Beer
and...for us rednecks...poontang.

Not necessarily in that order.

I can tell your support for Obama has absolutely nothing to do with race. You a member of the same church?

Well, seeing as how he's half-black and half-white, which side am I a racist on Krispy?

I guess this one is humor-challenged as well....

Gal = Tina Fey?

Hubba Hubba

Hey, I know what Hillary's new campaign slogan can be: The Bitch is Back.

Or maybe she can get that all Helen Reddy song as her theme music:

"I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'Cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again

Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to
I can do anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

You can bend but never break me
'Cause it only serves to make me
More determined to achieve my final goal
And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'Cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul

Oh, yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to
I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

I am woman watch me grow
See me standing toe to toe
As I spread my lovin' arms across the land
But I'm still an embryo
With a long, long way to go
Until I make my brother understand

Oh, yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to
I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

Oh, I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong

I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am woman"

W-O-M-A-N!!!

I am strong
I am woman"

W-O-M-A-N!!!

Spud roars his approval!

Good singing there, Gal!

Ooh, do "Delta Dawn" next.

Spud luffs that one too!

Be Well.

PS: Totally not implying that Hillary is "a faded rose from days gone by"

Not at all.

^_^

Be Well.

Or maybe this would be better:

Cat Stevens Hard Headed Woman lyrics

I'm looking for a hard headed woman,
One who will take me for myself,
And if I find my hard headed woman,
I won't need nobody else, no, no, no.

I'm looking for a hard headed woman,
One who will make me do my best,
And if I find my hard headed woman
I know the rest of my life will be blessed -- yes, yes, yes.

I know a lot of fancy dancers,
people who can glide you on a floor,
They move so smooth but have no answers.
When you ask Why'd you come here for?
I don't know Why?

I know many fine feathered friends
but their friendliness depends on how you do.
They know many sure fired ways
to find out the one who pays
and how you do.

I'm looking for a hard headed woman,
One who will make me feel so good,
And if I find my hard headed woman,
I know my life will be as it should -- yes, yes, yes.

I'm looking for a hard headed woman,
One who will make me do my best,
And if I find my hard headed woman...

"Cat Stevens is a "Moos-lem" and therefore quoting him is analogous to quoting OBL and we all know that OBL and AQ want Obama to win because he'll assist them in setting up the caliphate and all in the Middle East because Farrakahn says so...."

Bower'd

"I am woman, hear me roar

Katie Colic's favorite.

yes I spelled that right...

Maybe Hillary will sing this to Obama at the debate tonight:

"I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch
Oh the bitch is back
Stone cold sober as a matter of fact
I can bitch, I can bitch
`cause Im better than you
It's the way that I move
The things that I do

I entertain by picking brains
Sell my soul by dropping names
I don't like those, my god, what's that
Oh it's full of nasty habits when the bitch gets back"

Ah, and so Hillary can sing....

All Hat, No Cattle

See that boy standing there by the dance floor
He's lookin' like the Marlboro Man
Starched shirt, starched jeans, big trophy buckle
And an empty Copenhagen can
He's talkin' cowboy this and cowboy that
Well I'll bet one thing's for sure
The only stampede that he's ever seen
Is the clearance at the western store

All hat and no cattle, that boy just ain't real
All boots and no saddle, don't know how to make a cowgirl feel
Think I'm gonna tell him to pack up his act
And go back where he came from
'Cause all hat and no cattle ain't gonna get it done

He's just a smooth-talkin', long-tall slow-walkin'
Drugstore-made-up dude
So honey don't you fall for that fake Texas drawl
He ain't right for you
What you need's a man that ain't just a hat stand
When you get him home
Well, I don't look like much, but I can sure saddle up
And ride with you all night long

All hat and no cattle, that boy just ain't real
All boots and no saddle, don't know how to make a cowgirl feel
Think I'm gonna tell him to pack up his act
And go back where he came from
'Cause all hat and no cattle ain't gonna get it done

All hat and no cattle ain't gonna get it done

Read 'em and weep Corky Darling...

Ohio Rasmussen: Clinton 48---Obama 43 (Clinton +5)

Texas SurveyUSA: Obama 49---Clinton 45 (Obama +4)


By next week she'll be in the tank.

By next week she'll be in the tank.

Not a far journey since she's already campaigning in the gutter to begin with....

Lessee, about 70 total delegates apart and within 5 points of each other in two states.

Naw, it's not close at all.

As far as being "in the tank", perhaps you are thinking of the old pic of Michael Dukakis or the new one of Sultan Obama?

If Obama is beating Hillary's pantsuit off with no cattle, then what does that say about HER?

No hat, no cattle, no CLUE?

Campaigning in the gutter would be lying about your opponent in mailers, ala Mohammad, er Obama.

Ah, and so Hillary can sing....

All Hat, No Cattle

Hillary thinks she's running against Bush (just like her hubsand ran against one)? Well, damn. No wonder she is losing.

Campaigning in the gutter would be lying about your opponent in mailers

Like the ones Hillary used at the 11th hour in New Hampshire and Wisconsin that completely lied about Obama's pro-choice record? Would that be what you're talking about? Yep then, you're right...strictly gutter....

She never had to run in a primary agaionst a formidable opponent. Giuliani dropped out, and shazzam she's a US Senator.

Yeah, it's a close race, but it wasn't not so long ago.

OHIO

Rasmussen 02/13 - 02/13: Clinton +14.0
Quinnipiac 02/06 - 02/12: Clinton +21.0
SurveyUSA 02/10 - 02/11: Clinton +17.0


Texas

Rasmussen 02/14 - 02/14: Clinton +16.0
InsiderAdvantage 02/14 - 02/14: Clinton +7.0
ARG* 02/13 - 02/14: Obama +6.0


Less we forget (at least Corky Darling)

The only people that claim the Obama mailers are lies are Corky and Hillary.

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton "touted the president's support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region."

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that "the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement."

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, "Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn't hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill's successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA."

"I don't need to hurt Hillary," a jilted Flowers announced in the Las Vegas Review Journal Tuesday. "She is doing a fine job of that herself, along with her idiot husband. Karma is an interesting thing. If these two don't get elected, and they are a team, it will be karma coming back to visit them. It's about time." - Jennifer Flowers

Well, seeing as how he's half-black and half-white, which side am I a racist on Krispy?

I guess this one is humor-challenged as well

Posted by tonyroma at 2008-02-26 12:51 PM

To the question.....Well since you posted you were ROTFLMBBAO and it's a 50/50 shot I'd bet the darker side. Am I right?

Say, why do you think he chooses not to refer to himself as a Halfrican American, or better yes just, American? Or does he do so just to inform the blind of sight?


to your musing. Hardly, I can just spot racism when I see it, you know if it quacks like a duck and all that.

Obama wouldn't even vote for Obama....

That was back in 2004, when everybody was asking him about the possibility because of the awesome speech he gave at the convention.

At some point he realised the experience argument wasn't neccessarily the draw it might have been before Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld led the country down to road to hell.

At this point his "lack of experience" is actually an asset. Besides he's got more legislative experience than Hill and he is far more consistent than Hill and especially Johnny McFlipFlop.

Things change, Corky.

Polls fer example.

Ya don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

GObama! 08ama '08.

Be Well.

Say, why do you think he chooses not to refer to himself as a Halfrican American, or better yes just, American? Or does he do so just to inform the blind of sight?

Would you like to point out how many times Barack refers to himself in a racial context at all?

Honestly, I don't think I've seen him do this very often.

Btw, I'm an American of mixed descent as well. Which side of my heritage does it make me racist against?

Do you understand how idiotic you sound in making claims of racism where none exist? Last I looked, having pastie skintone only identifies the physical characteristics of someone, it doesn't define who or what they are, and certainly doesn't pre-judge their innate character as specific individuals living on this big blue marble with the rest of us.

One really has to admire how easily Obama brushes off any question that can't be answered with a Rudy Giuliani/911 type answer of, "her Iraq vote".

CORKY

Editorial boards at major newspapers across the country have endorsed Obama after spending hours with him - firing questions on a broad range of topics - coming away very impressed with his detailed answers which revealed a depth of knowledge about whatever topic they threw at him, while at the same time offering well thought our solutions.

For those in journalism who's job it is to examine the candidates in great detail, Obama has been the hands down winner.

For those in journalism who's job it is to examine the candidates in great detail, Obama has been the hands down winner.

As he has been to the majority of Democratic primary voters who actually follow the candidate's stances and policies on the issues.

Its truly sad that the Clinton camp continues to imply that Obama voters are the naive, clueless ones, when every iota of research shows what Bill Schneider says above:

"Among the one-third of Texas Democratic primary voters who watched all or most of the debate, Obama leads Clinton by 20 points," said CNN senior political analyst Bill Schneider.


"Among the 42 percent who followed news about the debate, Clinton and Obama are neck and neck. And among the one-quarter of Texas Democrats who paid no attention to the debate, Clinton leads Obama by nearly 20 points.


"Is this because Obama appeals to better-educated Democrats and they were more likely to watch the debate? No. Even among college-educated Democrats, the more attention you paid to the debate, the better Obama does."

Kris, this link says the article was by Spengler. Asia Times
Spengler is dead, so who's writing this stuff you keep quoting?

Who needs factcheck when you have Hillary's own words:

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton "touted the president's support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region."

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that "the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement."

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, "Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn't hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill's successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA."

But Taxman, Hillary never called NAFTA a "boon"!

This is the sole criticism of his flyer by the Clinton Camp. One word...not the content, but one WORD she didn't utter.

And here's another canard you been floating like the Grail for some time Corky which only proves you have the integrity of your beloved Hillary:

In closing, we'd just note that Clinton is no innocent on sending out misleading mailers. We reported on Feb. 6 that a mailing by her campaign contained a "big distortion" of Obama's position on Social Security taxes and falsely implied that he had "no plan" to address mortgage foreclosures. It also attacked him for voting for a "Dick Cheney" energy bill that gave "huge tax breaks to oil companies," when in fact the bill gave a net tax increase to oil companies.

Oooow...Dick Cheney's Energy Bill gave a net tax increase to oil companies.

Want to tell us again just how naive Obama is compared to Hillary? You'd rather climb a tree to tell a lie than to stand on the ground and tell the truth!

"I just hope Obamites don't take the same approach to going to a doctor as they do to electing a President.

"Calling Dr. Larry, Dr. Curly, Dr. Moe!"

If every doctor was more interested in bashing the doctor down the road than he was about making me healthy, maybe I would call someone without a medical degree.

If Obama is "All Hat" Hillary is

"All Cattle Futures and No Tax returns"

-Pot, kettle?

No, retaliation as your post says.

Or, tit for tat, if you like.

I have to just shake my head and laugh at some of these inane comments. It appears that the choice Americans will have in November is between a nut case and an empty suit. Enjoy! Out of 250 million people this is what Americans pick as their potential choice for POTUS. Its just unbelievable.

Does inattentive mean fat?

-At this point his "lack of experience" is actually an asset.

I just hope Obamites don't take the same approach to going to a doctor as they do to electing a President.

"Calling Dr. Larry, Dr. Curly, Dr. Moe!"

POSTED BY CORKY

I'll take the young doc, head of his class, good but limited track record, over the more experienced doc that has, on occasion, amputated the wrong leg. Thanks

And nine months from now I'll choose the young doc over the crazy old doc who supports continued random amputations.

As with the cases of Willie Horton, McCain's daughter, the Ford ad and Stone's anti-Clinton 527 group, C.U.N.T, America waits to see how the race card will be played in the unfolding presidential contest.

However, the ugliest use of the race card to date is the attempts to discredit Obama's mother and wife by, first, the Chicago Tribune [March 27, 2007], and, most disgustingly, the Asia Times [February 26, 2008]. The Tribune article goes out of its way to attempt to discredit and denigrate Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, a feminist and anthropologist, into a crazy, 60-ies, atheist hippy and lover and wife of men from different racial backgrounds. All that she is not accused of is being a dope smoker.

The Asia Times is even slimier and may well foreshadow what awaits Obama if he does secure the Democratic presidential nomination. After disparaging Michelle Obama's undergraduate study of her own "blackness" while at Princeton, it goes on to falsely site the Tribune article, claiming that Obama's is a communist sympathizer, from her youth. " No such reference appears in the Tribune article.

It then picks up the tempo of character assassination of Obama's mother, insisting that "many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice." And after mentioning her role as an anthropologist, it states that Obama "applies the tools of cultural manipulation out of resentment against America. The probable next president of the United States is a mother's revenge against the America she despised."

Excerpted from David Rosen @ Counterpunch

THIS FITS TEXAS, Lynchman Bill O'Reilly, AND THE ENTIRE SOUTH FOR THAT MATTER, PERFECTLY