Is Iran Winning the Iraq War?

It sure the hell ain't the US.

Let's see who are the winners so far....

Iran.

Saudi Arabia.

Osama Bin Forgotten.

OPEC.

KBR.

Cheney.

OPEC.

OPEC.

OPEC.

OPEC.

Oh, and....

OPEC.

"OPEC."

OPEC is benefiting from the Iraq war in being free from the destabilizing machinations of Saddam Hussein and the Ba'athists (there and in Syria).

Saddam's threats to his neighbors (OPEC nations) was interfering with oil production and shipment, and his blackmarket corruption of the UN and the EU was undermining ALL the cooperation between those cooperating OPEC nations.

Now, of course, the EU and UN are not being corrupted by Saddam's blackmarket, his neighbors are not in fear of WMD being used by him and the Ba'athists in Syria are on-their-toes trying to avoid any show of support for the genocide of every man, woman and Israeli child ...

Only the Democratics and al Qaeda (and others of their ilk) are unhappy with the removal of Saddam Hussein and the ending of Iraq's effort to genocide an entire nation from the face of the Earth ...

... the traitorous and human sacrificing vermin!

Somebody fart?

FF 726! Oh my gawd!

It's bush's fault.

"Let's see who are the winners so far..."

The Neocons who want to take our rights

Israel and AIPAC

FF 726!!!

and

No one could ever have imagined that invading and occupying Iraq and removing Saddam Hussein would make the mullahs of Iran more powerful.

Is Iran Winning the Iraq War?

Hell No!

Bush won it for them Saddam is gone......

It's bush's fault.

You got that one right.

Together the Democrats, Republicans, White House Congress, CIA, NSC have completely fucked up our relationships with Arab Nations. Murderous coups, invasions, defense treaties, oil revenue sharing agreements have all backfired leaving American taxpayers to clean up the mess by paying the bills. The only military action that ever worked was overwhelming boots on the ground in Panama and Grenada for example. Unfortunately, those attacks were also completely unnecessary.

Superior equipment and weapons didn't help the British hold the colonies. The trillions we have wasted on hi-tech weapons systems boil down to this. They did not work in Vietnam, Somolia, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Iraq. Nor did any of these systems protect anyone during 9-11. They are a total fucking waste of resources. Furthermore the argument that we alone are ethical enough to be trusted with nuclear weapons is, like religion, bunk.

We are an Empire in decline, brought about by arrogance and waste. Every family in this country is in debt to the tune of $500,000 in unfunded liabilities, thanks to a half century of leadership which cowtows only to the rich. Eisenhower warned us not to let this happen.

Is Iran Winning the Iraq War?

Yes

Who is losing the Iraq War?

Bush/Cheney/McCain/Hillary

Let's be honest here Rogers...

You could have put up as story asking, "Is Canada Winning the Iraq War," and the libs here would agree... Just so long as they can say America isn't winning or is losing, they are happy.

Is Peru Winning the Iraq War?

We love EVERYONE....

except the United States of America.

Adamantly so,

THE DR LEFT

(that'll get it going for awhile)

Letting Iran win may be the smartest move the US ever does in the Mid East even inadvertently.

Iran has looked after its own interests BUT it supported the Northern Alliance when everyone thought the Taliban were really nice guys to do business with.

It opposed Saddam when the US thought they were really nice guys to do business with in Chemical weapons.

Its not really a friend of the Saudi's that the US though they were really nice guys to do business with, even when it supplied almost all the 9/11 guys.

It was a friend of Israel and likewise for many years and hasn't persecuted Jews (spy case was a spy case) and all have been released which wouildn't have happened in saudi.

Iran supports some dodgy groups but then again US supports some even dodgier regimes.

A rapproachemnt with Iran is possible but would involve Israeli peace with the Palestinians and is probably achieveable. Its more likely with them at the table than sitting outside.

Iran supports other groups to protect itself as 1953 coup is still remembered.

Iran and Israel could easily make peace as they do have quiet a bit of non attriburtable contacts anyway but would involve US taking a big step.

Alternative is to allow Iran start to drop into the Russian sphere of influence.

Sadly I don't think the US posesses the political will to do it because Enbassy hostage would still crop up.

US needs a President who sees beyond his second term, not sure it has had that in a century.

"Just so long as they can say America isn't winning or is losing, they are happy."

So you're happy the way things are?

Why?

"We love EVERYONE....

except the United States of America."

Nice of you to equate the neocon agenda of invading Iraq for the oil with America.

REally, when you think about it making such an equation is pretty disgusting.

I think the left loves America while the right has forgotten what America is even supposed to be.....

Love America??? Then you love the Constitution.
If you love the Constitution then you can't also support clear violations of it, wars fought without Congress declaring them. Therefore the right does not love America and is in fact America's enemy.

So you're happy the way things are?

Why?

Posted by Mista Kurtz

happy with how they are now? No. Happy with the direction its taken over the past couple months... yeah. Attacks are down, the situation is improving, Al Qaeda's been pretty much destroyed in Iraq. there is a positive trend.

I would say " YES " iran is winning , thanks to the likes of harry reid , george soros ,clintons , pelosi , fienstein , wexler , kennedy , and the rest of the libcoms who are aiding and abetting the iranians in their quest to help the left destroy America .
Which other country can you go to , and not be executed for treason other than the U.S. ?
Which other country do you have a long string of worthless traitors that want to destroy the real American culture , which is greater than any of the other countries cultures ?

If Iran is winning, it's all owed to our socialist Democratic Party. They, along with their traitorious comrades in the MLM, developed a strategy to do everything in their power to destroy this (or any) Repub administration to regain their "rightful" power in control of our country and its treasury. Failed economy; high gas prices; failed foreign policy; failure in the Middle East. All of these things have one thing in common: they benefit the socialist Democrats. They will do anything to regain control, regardless of the consequences to this great country.

They are allies with our enemies and are welcomed throughout the world in rouge planets like Syria, Iran, and China.

I have to agree, if the US does not win in Iraq at this point it will be because Reid, Pelosi, etc. did all they could to insure that we would loose.

Bush & Co made many many mistakes, but now have a strategy that is making a difference. If they pull out or change then whatever comes of that will have to be laid at their feet.

This is why they have to keep saying that it is not working. I have a copy of the Wizard of Oz that I like to watch from time to time... They remind me of the Lion... "I do, I do, I *do* believe". It is like if they say it enough times it will be true.

Memeber2856, you are a cornball. They want to take our rights! Do you know how brainwashed of a response that sounds?

Please tell me of a right of yours that has been taken or threatened during Bush's two terms?

I think the left loves America while the right has forgotten what America is even supposed to be.....

Love America??? Then you love the Constitution.
If you love the Constitution then you can't also support clear violations of it, wars fought without Congress declaring them. Therefore the right does not love America and is in fact America's enemy.

Posted by danni at 2008-02-26 11:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

Actually my post was meant to rile the majority on the DR (NOTE: the paranthesis comment under my post).

I am sick and have been since Vietnam (Korea prior to that) of undeclared wars and doing things that our Constitution does not authorize (Repubs and Dem "leaders" have been involved). I believe I support the only candidate that is serious about those issues (and he doesn't happen to be a Democrat). Where is the Democrat that supports your Constitutional based values Danni? A lot of what you say on the DR is actually in support of a strick Constitutionalist. I believe that is the hope our children and grandchildren need and deserve. Half measures (imho) will not save this great nation for them and the liberty they so deserve.

Please tell me of a right of yours that has been taken or threatened during Bush's two terms?

Posted by everlong at 2008-02-26 11:44 AM

YEAH!

These

*FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.

*FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once- public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.

*FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.

*RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.

*FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.

*RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.

*RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.

"If Iran is winning, it's all owed to our socialist Democratic Party."

So absolutely hilarious. Take some responsibility for the predicted outcome of your leader's actions.
You guys supported his war in spite of warnings from us about exactly the consequence of strengthening Iran. So now it happens and you liars try to shift the blame on to the Dems who have funded the war against their own better judgment because they were unwilling to allow you lunatics to keep the troops over there without equipment and supplies. No, y'all have no one to blame except yourselves, thing is we on the left have no one else to blame except you too. Perhaps, if you recognize the stupidity now of this Iraq war you might do the nation and the world a favor by not voting in the future.
The Republican party is much like the Baathist party and should be disbanded and all members prohibited from ever working in or near government again.

**** If Iran is winning, it's all owed to our socialist Democratic Party. Busyb & Sawdust ****

..........heads, Republicans win.........tails, Democrats lose..........

..........the criminal queer/mafia that started this war, has to take responsibility for its outcome.........

happy with how they are now? No.

Why do you hate America and freedom and rainbows and puppies?

If Iran is winning, it's all owed to

The dumbass in the WH that didn't know the difference between a Shia and a Sunni and still has gotten everything and more that he's asked for.

It was started for good enough reasons. It's just a shame W didn't learn anything from Nam.

US needs a President who sees beyond his second term, not sure it has had that in a century.-Odie1kanobe

You are right, and you see how your post was completely ignored until now.

You are right, and the only candidate that gets close to that is Obama.

Change is desperately needed in this country.

"It's bush's fault.

You got that one right.

Posted by LeeAtwater"

February 17, 1998
www.cnn.com
Text Of Clinton Statement On Iraq
Text of President Clinton's address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff:

"Now, instead of playing by the very rules he agreed to at the end of the Gulf War, Saddam has spent the better part of the past decade trying to cheat on this solemn commitment. Consider just some of the facts:

Iraq repeatedly made false declarations about the weapons that it had left in its possession after the Gulf War. When UNSCOM would then uncover evidence that gave lie to those declarations, Iraq would simply amend the reports.

For example, Iraq revised its nuclear declarations four times within just 14 months and it has submitted six different biological warfare declarations, each of which has been rejected by UNSCOM."

" And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production. "

"Over the past few months, as they have come closer and closer to rooting out Iraq's remaining nuclear capacity, Saddam has undertaken yet another gambit to thwart their ambitions. "

"It is obvious that there is an attempt here, based on the whole history of this operation since 1991, to protect whatever remains of his capacity to produce weapons of mass destruction, the missiles to deliver them, and the feed stocks necessary to produce them."

" Now those terms are nothing more or less than the essence of what he agreed to at the end of the Gulf War. The Security Council, many times since, has reiterated this standard. If he accepts them, force will not be necessary. "

"Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply, and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made?

Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction.

And some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal. And I think every one of you who's really worked on this for any length of time believes that, too. "

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program. We want to seriously reduce his capacity to threaten his neighbors. "

"Let me be clear: A military operation cannot destroy all the weapons of mass destruction capacity. But it can and will leave him significantly worse off than he is now in terms of the ability to threaten the world with these weapons or to attack his neighbors. "

Clinton said this. Bush should have reiterated the statement:
"Now, let me say to all of you here as all of you know the weightiest decision any president ever has to make is to send our troops into harm's way. And force can never be the first answer. But sometimes, it's the only answer.

You are the best prepared, best equipped, best trained fighting force in the world. And should it prove necessary for me to exercise the option of force, your commanders will do everything they can to protect the safety of all the men and women under their command.

No military action, however, is risk-free. I know that the people we may call upon in uniform are ready. The American people have to be ready as well. "

"rooting out Iraq's remaining nuclear capacity"
"Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply, and we fail to act,"
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear."
"Now, let me say to all of you here as all of you know the weightiest decision any president ever has to make is to send our troops into harm's way."

"And force can never be the first answer. But sometimes, it's the only answer."

**** It was started for good enough reasons. It's just a shame W didn't learn anything from Nam.

Posted by BusyB ****

..........wrong......it was started for oil profits by a criminal conspiracy.........

.........many people called it right at the time...... the dumber people were, the longer they swallowed the fake propaganda.........

........and some are so stupid that they still believe the shit being fed them.......

As the CiC, the President is to blame for sending troops into harms way.

I'd like to see President Clinton's statement provided to each candidate and ask them if they feel they can prepare themselves now for that question later. "Will you commit the life and blood of Americans when the time requires it?"

Al baradei January 2003

"There is NO EVIDENCE that Iraq has reconstituted its nuclear weapons program..."

Hans Blix February 2003

"We have found NO PROHIBITED weapons..."

Bush authorized to confront the ongoing threat from Iraq.

Iraq was no threat.

Bush's war is illegal.

One little difference. OK, not so little: Clinton didn't invade Iraq.

"And force can never be the first answer. But sometimes, it's the only answer."

Stupid us. Believing Bush would be honest when he said "last resort."

W was strong and committed. He did the right thing...however, just like his dad, he eventually showed the Bush jelly-spined, moderate indecision. He waivered. He was not able to defeat the liberal onslaught that followed even though, like my boy 'The Gipper', he could bypass the partison, treasonous MLM, and speak directly to the American people. I don't know if you noticed it or not, but he's not the most gifted speaker in the world. We need some "Change," and it ain't no socialist like O'bama.

""Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply, and we fail to act,"

OK, now let's all pretend that there were no weapons inspectors and then let's pretend that Saddam did not agree to allow them back into the country....and then let's pretend that the weapons inspectors did not tell us that there were no nukes or WMDs....now let's pretend that the yellow cake Uranium from Niger was real and that a CIA agent wasn't outed because her husband debunked the story about it.....Bill Clinton did not authorize the invasion of Iraq which would have been completely against the advice of GHW Bush. But continue to pretend Petrous....it's good for laughs.

He did the right thing...

no he did not, he started a war of aggression.

it is the complete opposite of right to make another country a battlefield to protect yourself. "We fight them over there so we dont have to fight them over here"

WAs PNAC written before 9-11? Yes or No

Were many of the supporters for the invasion in the administration signatories of that document?? Yes or No

Did Dumbya tell us a complete lie about yellow cake uranium in a State of the Union address??? Yes or No

The thing is, deep down, these righties here still defending Bush's War still yearn to believe that Saddam was involved in 9-11 and even though they know it is not true they still justify the war in Iraq based on the emotional belief that he was.
There is no way to argue with someone who deals with things that way because facts and logic have no place in forming their opinions. It's all wishful thinking used to justify a war. It's really sick when you think about it.

I love America!

Mission Accomplished!

Bush said so... so shut up about it.

some more Koolaid anyone?

"W was strong and committed"
"he eventually showed the Bush jelly-spined, moderate indecision"
Posted by BusyB at 2008-02-26 12:37 PM

YEAH!

As if these two statements, separated by only ten words no less, aren't mutually exclusive to one another!

How Dumb can one person be I wonder ----- Apparently pretty damn Dumb!

I've said this before. Iran has already won the war. The war between Iraq and Iran years ago ended in a draw but now thanks to us where you had the Sunni(led by Iraq) fighting Iran (Shiite) you now have both Iraq and Iran ruled by the same Shiite. In effect we lost as well. So much for the much ballyhoooed resume booster called experience coming to office. With experience and results like this I'll take my chances with none at all.

****W was strong and committed.Busyb****

......he was and remains a simple-minded sock-puppet with a scientifically measured IQ of 91 that would not qualify him to run a 7/11 on the slow shift......

........he was and remains the front-man for a crime family that has ripped off billions from the taxpayers and has damaged America for decades.........

........sadly......those who are as simple (and simpler) than George...still believe the lies propogated by the queer/mafia currently running Washington.........

........and some are so stupid that they still believe the shit being fed them.......

Posted by skizziks

You got that right...you are stupid to believe the shit you're fed by your veggie-eatin' dirtbags. Last time I checked, we never benefited from Iraqi oil. When you decide to burn wood and ride a horse...go for it. For me...I want my tax $ going for a strong military that will kick any ass that tries to stop the flow of oil to this contry. The technology, money, and willingness to take a risk by entreprenuers from the US created the ability to refine oil. It has made the world a wonderful place to live. Why don't you go join your stone-aged buddies on the Pakistani border since you hate us so much...loser!

Last time I checked, we never benefited from Iraqi oil

Who's "we" in your world? What makes you think this was about your "we" anyway?

Huh?

"
Al baradei January 2003
"There is NO EVIDENCE that Iraq has reconstituted its nuclear weapons program..."
Han Blix February 2003
"We have found NO PROHIBITED weapons..."
Bush authorized to confront the ongoing threat from Iraq.
Iraq was no threat.
Bush's war is illegal.
Posted by truthhurts "

www.cnn.com

Blix's own statement doesn't agree with "no evidence and no prohibited weapons." This was March 2003.

Bush & Co made many many mistakes, but now have a strategy that is making a difference.

Yeah, cause the death rate in 2006 was something to brag about. And as for the stratergy of bribing al queda to limit its attacks, how long do you think that's going to last?
They're already increasing.
Again.
You are, of course, aware that many of the CLCs are inflitrated by al queda and many of the guys Bush is bribing have killed Americans and have no love for America or the government Bush wasted 4000 lives to install.
Or will America just join suadi arabia in bankrolling al queda in Iraq?

I don't care if there were WMD's present or not. That was already confirmed and in writing. It was time (after 9/11) to take the war to the enemy. Iraq was a good start, esp. after they were in the streets cheering after 9/11. Take the war to the avowed enemy. If they support, arm or harbor those that plot our destruction, they should be deliberately and decisively dealt with. Who's next..Syria, Iran, Venezuala? Do Not F' With Us!

I want my tax $ going for a strong military that will kick any ass that tries to stop the flow of oil to this contry

Those are the exact reasons Bushy gave to the American public prior to the ivasion. Right?

So if say tomorrow, we decide that paying call center workers in India $1.70 per month is too much, that is the lone justification we need to invade a sovereign nation under your moral values. You would not want the flow of call center support for them Winders Vista to stop now would you?

Last time I checked, we never benefited from Iraqi oil.

Because Iranian ayatollah al Sistani wouldn't let Bush and Bremer set up their handpicked Iraqi government and implement the auctions of the Iraq oil fields to a limited number of companies like Bush had planned.

Face it, nearly everything Bush planned for Iraq failed. They do still have socialised medicine, so it's not a total loss. Of course, Americans are too scummy to have the same rights as the noble shia militiamen, according to John McBush.

Your buddy Reagan, however did make his plan in the ME work-sell out 200 Marines in Beirut to hezbollah to show Iran he was serious about working with the mad ayatollahs. A great job by Ollie North in showing hezbollah how to do it. Semper Buck!

"Iraq was a good start, esp. after they were in the streets cheering after 9/11"

So you think going after the folks cheering 9/11 was better than going after, say, the perpatrators of 9/11? You're joking, right?

Remind me...from what country did over 75% of the 9/11 hijackers originate?

If they support, arm or harbor those that plot our destruction, they should be deliberately and decisively dealt with. Who's next..Syria, Iran, Venezuala?

Under your plan... Saudi Arabia and UAE should be next. But your "strong" imperial president is to busy blowing the royal families of those nations.

"Excuse me Mr. Royal King sir, may we please please have some more oil your exhaltedness. Pleeeeassssse?"

Sincerely, Georgie Bush.

Aka, the hand holder in the the bluebells (or is it blowballs?)

Who's next..Syria, Iran, Venezuala? Do Not F' With Us!-BB
We will spend our great-great-great-great grandkids money and borrow more money from China to attack more countries who are no threat to us. Great plan.

Last time I checked, we never benefited from Iraqi oil.

You obviously need to narrow your field of view of "we" to the shareholders of the oil companies.

This was never about cheap oil. It was about getting access to the oil and if in the process the price triples then it is a win win.

Iraq was a good start, esp. after they were in the streets cheering after 9/11. Take the war to the avowed enemy. If they support, arm or harbor those that plot our destruction, they should be deliberately and decisively dealt with.Who's next..Syria, Iran, Venezuala? Do Not F' With Us!

so if one cheered the attack on 9/11 that is cause to invade a sovereign nation, so much for freedom of speech i suppose.

iraq did not suport, arm or harbor anyone associated with 9.11

How Dumb can one person be I wonder ----- Apparently pretty damn Dumb!

FREEDUMB is on the march in right wing america.

"If they support, arm or harbor those that plot our destruction, they should be deliberately and decisively dealt with. Who's next..Syria, Iran, Venezuala? Do Not F' With Us!"

Posted by BusyB at 2008-02-26 01:31 PM

YEAH!

Thats what Ahmadinejad says!

And to think WE are Claiming to be fighting Extremism!

What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Iraqis bombed the WTC? Hell no!

Iraq was a good start, esp. after they were in the streets cheering after 9/11"

Then why aren't we in saudi arabia, dubai, kuwait, pakistan. And lets not forget those Israelis jumping up and down with excitement as the watched the WTC attacks first hand.
Oh right, Republicans love dictators. Thye used to love Saddam till he started making the saudi royals nervous, then Bush1 had to fabricate some reason to knock him down a peg, like telling him to invade kuwait, then acting outraged and making up a non-existent threat to saudistan, who repaid us on 9-11.
There were three countries that recognized the taliban as the legitimate government of afghanistan on 9-11. Saudistan, pakistan and UAE.
Coincidentally, the three countries Bush has bent over for more than any other. Seems the Bush/bin laden family ties mean more to the Republicans than 3000 dead on 9-11.

Which really doesn't surprise anyone, does it?

Iraq was our friend! Your sweetheart Suddam's regime were blood thirsty, torturing, terrorist-supporting, bastards. I didn't say they assted terrorists in 9/11...I said they were a good place to start. I never said attack them 'cause they were in the streets cheering, it just makes me less sympathetic to their plight...as they were less sympathetic to ours. Also...I've yet to see any evidence that the US schemed for oil profits for the oil companies....that is a popular talking point for the sheep of the socialist democrat flock....show the proof. Go hide your head in the sand.

"happy with how they are now? No. Happy with the direction its taken over the past couple months... yeah. Attacks are down, the situation is improving, Al Qaeda's been pretty much destroyed in Iraq. there is a positive trend.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-02-26 11:35 AM"

GREAT! Soon we might get back to where we were in 2000! Somehow I feel like someone who has had their car stolen, but then the thief returns it 8 years later and wonders why I'm not pleased. LOL!!!

Iraq was our friend! Your sweetheart Suddam's regime were blood thirsty, torturing, terrorist-supporting, bastards

So why exactly did your idol, Ronnie Regan have his buddy Donnie Rumsfeld go to Baghdad and give that Saddam fellow those golden spurs as a token of America's love for Saddam?

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Why does George W Bush give billions to pakistan, which is the R&R spot for al queda. Why does Dubya go dance with alqueda's main financiers, the saudi royals?

Sure sounds like the Republican Party is a terrorist abetting organization. Maybe we SHOULD bomb them!

Very telling exchange. Someone says Iraq was no more threatening or abominable than half the countries in the region (let alone Africa) and the knee jerk response is a complete repudiation of every justification originally brought forth, and a statement that it was merely a starting point for some grander vision of world domination through military force.

GREAT! Soon we might get back to where we were in 2000! Somehow I feel like someone who has had their car stolen, but then the thief returns it 8 years later and wonders why I'm not pleased. LOL!!!

FF

"Was it over when the Iraqis bombed the WTC? Hell no!"

FF for Truthhurts.

Somehow I feel like someone who has had their car stolen, but then the thief returns it 8 years later and wonders why I'm not pleased. LOL!!!

After it was rolled, stripped and torched. But the "Mission Accomplished" bumper sticker makes it all worthwhile.

Given that Bush's invasion of Iraq and removal of Saddam was on bin laden's wish list, I wonder if BusyB isn't really an al queda troll. He certainly seems happy enough Bush gave OSama and the saudi royal alqueda members a pass in 2001.
Bushie akbar, there Busy ibn B?

"After it was rolled, stripped and torched. But the "Mission Accomplished" bumper sticker makes it all worthwhile."

And then I find out the insurance was canceled the day before it was stolen and I still owe the entire purchase price plus interest.

I didn't say they assted terrorists in 9/11...I said they were a good place to start. --BB

A good place to start losing the war on terror, draining our treasury, and destroying our military.

Good place to start to lose 9 billion dollars, be gouged by patriotic American companies, and piss on our Constitution. You did not say they assisted terrorist on 9-11, but you believe it. Take your tongue off Bush's balls-- Moron

Like said many times before....if the libs were in charge we'd #1 be communist or more likely a dictatorship #2. we'd be speaking a different language.

Like said many times before....if the libs were in charge we'd #1 be communist or more likely a dictatorship #2. we'd be speaking a different language.--BB

Make ONE intelligent post.
Your are right next thing you know the government will be listening to our phone calls, torturing people, invading other countries that are no threat, suspending Habeus Corpus, calling their opposition anti-American and terrorist lovers and letting people from non-english speaking countries invade our country---Oh, my mistake that is your side.

.....the libs will be in charge after the 2008 elections, so comrade Busyb, get started on your May day float now......

Make ONE intelligent post.
Your are right next thing you know the government will be listening to our phone calls, torturing people, invading other countries that are no threat, suspending Habeus Corpus, calling their opposition anti-American and terrorist lovers and letting people from non-english speaking countries invade our country---Oh, my mistake that is your side.

Posted by navyvet50

DON'T FEED THE RETARD PLEASE...

Only a liberal would say that having your biggest threat eliminated, having a former adversary become your closest ally, having a base for terrorists attacking you eliminated, having your only export tripled in value and having your new-found importance improve relations with your neighbors while watching another enemy spend thousands of lives and trillions of dollars doing this for you, while it cost you nothing, is any kind of victory.

We kicked Iran's ass! Mission Accomplished!

The Right

BusyibnB hates liberals. Al queda hates liberals. Hmmm.....

......and Comrade Busyb.....you know how us commies like to share our wives with each other as communal property......

......but in your case......please get yours to lose 300 pounds, get her buck teeth straightened, tell her to shave her armpits, wash at least once a season, and get the piglets out from under your double-wide, or your local People's Army rep is going to have no interest in porking your better half.......

......oh......and welcome to the People's America....

W was strong and committed. He did the right thing...however, just like his dad, he eventually showed the Bush jelly-spined, moderate indecision. He waivered. He was not able to defeat the liberal onslaught that followed even though, like my boy 'The Gipper', he could bypass the partison, treasonous MLM, and speak directly to the American people. I don't know if you noticed it or not, but he's not the most gifted speaker in the world. We need some "Change," and it ain't no socialist like O'bama.

Posted by BusyB at 2008-02-26 12:37 PM | Reply |

So what does this mean in terms of reality? your telling me every fuck up Bush made is the fault of liberals now? LOL... nvm you clearly checked out of reality...

"Like said many times before....if the libs were in charge we'd #1 be communist or more likely a dictatorship #2. we'd be speaking a different language.

Posted by BusyB at 2008-02-26 02:34 PM"

Saying it many times before doesn't make it true (do I really HAVE to repeat that?!). Or is your point that "the libs" never have been in charge?
Why don't you tell us who "the libs" are?

*** Why don't you tell us who "the libs" are?
Posted by TrueBlue ***

......he means anyone who got past grade 6 ...... />

Libs....Anyone that will vote for a Clinton or O'bama for starters. Libs want higher taxes, more government control of the individual (as much as they hypocritically deny it), and hate the military. They are mostly pro abortion, pro gay ('cause most of them are), are dominated by the anti-Christians. They are loud and cover their lack of legitimate policy and sane ideology by attacking their enemies with slander and distortion...like their leading politicians and their whiny coolaid drinkers....as exemplified by the postings on this site. They believe the ACLU is more valid than parents when it comes to issues like morality and childcare. That would pretty much be you, wouldn't it? I bet you didn't even realize that you are one.

"Was it over when the Iraqis bombed the WTC? Hell no!"

FF for Truthhurts.

i can see it happening, sometime late 2001, bush as bluto

cheney as otter "Iraq?"

Powell as Boone "Forget it he's rolling"

Rumsfeld as Dean Wormer "The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me."

Rice as Katy "I think I'm in love with a retard"

Gannon as Babs "George, honey? Is it supposed to be this soft?"

Libs....Anyone that will vote for a Clinton or O'bama for starters. Libs want higher taxes,

TH: yes cause all the spending in the past 7 years will magically be paid for with???? oh yeah my unborn kids college savings.

more government control of the individual (as much as they hypocritically deny it)

TH: COUGH COUGH ABORTION, GAY MARRIAGE, RIGHT TO LIFE< COUGH COUGH

, and hate the military.

TH: like sending them to a war unequipped for the job with too few troops? No administration in a long time has demonstrated his animosity tothe military as much as bush.

They are mostly pro abortion,

TH: Thank god for abortioin

pro gay ('cause most of them are)

TH: Gay means happy, you are against happiness?

, are dominated by the anti-Christians.

TH: what exactly is an anti christian? Someone who prays to the anti christ? you will need facts to support that assertion

They are loud

TH: have to be to be heard over the right's whiining and homosexual sex they keep having.

and cover their lack of legitimate policy and sane ideology by attacking their enemies with slander and distortion

TH: Like calling us all gay? got to love the self retorting retort.

...like their leading politicians and their whiny coolaid drinkers

TH: nonsensical statement preceeded the comment by me.

....as exemplified by the postings on this site.

TH: blah blah blah

They believe the ACLU is more valid than parents when it comes to issues like morality and childcare.

TH: huh what? stop funding childcare, that is definitely a positive republican virtue.

That would pretty much be you, wouldn't it? I bet you didn't even realize that you are one.

TH: i bet youi have no idea what you are.

yea...I'm a good, hard-working conservative who loves my country, supports our military, am grossly overtaxed by an out-of-control beauracracy, and one that paid my own childcare for two kids...I didn't need or expect a gov handout to do so. I bet you're receiving some kinda gov handout, aren't you?..The LOST CAUSE CHARITY.

"They are mostly pro abortion, pro gay ('cause most of them are), are dominated by the anti-Christians. They are loud and cover their lack of legitimate policy and sane ideology by attacking their enemies with slander and distortion"

hahahaahahahahaha

Rogers...you're a hoot.

This is just too obvious.

One of your friends posing as a stupid republican.

Will you do anything to get people to read this stuff?

These posts are way over the top. Too obvious.

Oh...I forgot to mention the self-appointed superior intelligence of the lib's. A certain pat on the back for being dicks!

US needs a President who sees beyond his second term, not sure it has had that in a century.-Odie1kanobe

You are right, and you see how your post was completely ignored until now.

You are right, and the only candidate that gets close to that is Obama.

Change is desperately needed in this country.

Posted by sitdown at 2008-02-26 12:17 PM

Nope I don't see Obama having the cojones to pull that off.

If he is the Dems candidate then it will be President McCain in the White House in November.

Obama is unelectable. Wish I were wrong but he has no chance.

"Wish I were wrong but he has no chance".
Posted by odie1kanobe

I'm glad you're not wrong...these dumbasses hang on to a clique like stink on poopie. "We need a change." What else does O'B have on his agenda? I rarely meet any of the koolade drinkers that can give substance to why they want this 'do nothing' to lead our country. It's all PR, nothing of substance. "CHANGE", MAN!

" It's all PR, nothing of substance."

BusyB has obviously never heard the part about the President nominating Supreme Court Justices. Should we tell him?

"If Iran is winning, it's all owed to our socialist Democratic Party. They, along with their traitorious comrades in the MLM, developed a strategy to do everything in their power to destroy this (or any) Repub administration to regain their "rightful" power in control of our country and its treasury. Failed economy; high gas prices; failed foreign policy; failure in the Middle East. All of these things have one thing in common: they benefit the socialist Democrats. They will do anything to regain control, regardless of the consequences to this great country."

Only in this forum could we learn that after 7 disastrous years of Bush, in which he mostly got his way with a Republican Congress both domestically and abroad, the chaos he has wrought are the fault of...Democrats.

Hint: This Republican administration destroyed itself.

Good point Danny boy....I can't fantom the thought of another socialist on SC.

Israel is the only country winning so far.

JohnNJ.& JohnJK...your typical liberal doom & gloom bores me. The only way we lose in the Mid. East is if one of your socialist demo candidates, by God's wrath, wins. Quit being such whiners. Join the winners, the party of backbone.

"yea...I'm a good, hard-working conservative who loves my country, supports our military, am grossly overtaxed by an out-of-control beauracracy, and one that paid my own childcare for two kids...I didn't need or expect a gov handout to do so. I bet you're receiving some kinda gov handout, aren't you?..The LOST CAUSE CHARITY.

Posted by BusyB at 2008-02-26 05:27 PM"

"JohnNJ.& JohnJK...your typical liberal doom & gloom bores me. The only way we lose in the Mid. East is if one of your socialist demo candidates, by God's wrath, wins. Quit being such whiners. Join the winners, the party of backbone.

Posted by BusyB at 2008-02-26 08:33 PM"

WOW, what a self-retorting retort!

HEY BusyB: buck up and GROW UP! Compared to most of the world, you've got it made and all you can do is WHINE that you're not getting enough. There are few (if ANY) on this blog who are committed to the downfall of this country and/or deserving of your slams. On the contrary, I believe it's MUCH more likely the folks who REALLY give a d*mn about this country are the one who are frustrated with the complacency regarding the defense of the principles this country was founded upon. Those principles are what I LOVE about my country! What is it that YOU love about your country?

happy with how they are now? No. Happy with the direction its taken over the past couple months... yeah. Attacks are down, the situation is improving, Al Qaeda's been pretty much destroyed in Iraq. there is a positive trend.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-02-26 11:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

60 months after the invasion and you're happy with the last 3?

There's a ringing endorsement!!

It's bush's fault.

Posted by retnluvnit

Why such a hater? There's no way you could blame the state of things in the Middle East on GW Bush.

**** Join the winners, the party of backbone.
Posted by BusyB *****

.........oh I'm sorry.......I misread this to say the "party of arse-boning"......

....the Repubs had so many Mary Cheneys, Mark Foleys, Jeff Gannons and wide-stance members that it wasn't clear they were accepting heterosexuals.......

.......but if my hemmoroids subside......I shall certainly give it some thought..........

"Well...There you go again!" SKIZZMO..you are of the party of cowards....not willing to fight for what's right. We fight in the ME or we fight here. You're of the party of whinners...where it's cool to be anti-establishment..it gives you gravetos(sp?) w/ what few friends you have. You're angry and you are a burden to the doers. You're the kinda loser that if you saw a man knock a woman down and grab her purse...you'd jump outta the way and ignore it....you know...you don't wanna get involved. You seem to be very knowledgable of whose gay or not. Makes me wonder.

We fight in the ME or we fight here.

how do you think the iraqis feel about us making their country a charnel house to keep us safe?

you speak of doing what is right, how many children have to die to keep you safe?