The checks in the mail!

China has plenty of money. We will just borrow more then blame the deficit on the Dems. End of problem for the right.

A Legacy ain't cheap. Think how much it'll be if McBush gets his hundred year war wet dream.

But don't mention the viet nam war-it brings back bad memories of Nixon's surrender for Republicans.

That's really sad, all that money put to alt energy credits would have been much better spent!

It will cost a lot more than that. So many soldiers died by a cheap shot in the back, a bomb on the road while trying to help the innocent. Our young adults serve their country and come home and get crapped on by high health care costs and substandard VA hospitals.

Our injured troops should have the best health care there is. They defend our freedoms and fight the fight Bush gave them.

You can not blame our troops for following orders. I applaud them.

Instead blame the complete moron that makes bad decisions by leaving our borders open, ruining our economy and touring Africa when his own people need him the most in a crumbling economy and country out of whack!

already exceeds the cost of the 12-year war in Vietnam and is more than double the cost of the Korean War.

SCREAM.

Money well spent.

The Grateful ayatollahs of Iran.

PS. McBush got screwed by viet nam. Now he'll get screwed by Iraq. The circle of stupidity.

one could go on for pages about the ineptness of this administration... indeed it'll probably happen.
as davethewave said, what if we would've put this money elsewhere.... into education, alt-fuels, science, health care. on and on...
but if we needed the money for that, no one would've voted for it. the money wouldn't be there. we'd have to raise taxes or shut down another social service. we'd go into debt.
but to pay for a war... and a bad one at that... there's lots of money for that.
the kids that didn't get the money for a better education will be paying for this war for some time.

Follow the money trail. Someone made historical profits from this...usual suspects:

$3,000,000,000 = spent

What the American people got for those tax dollars = nothing

John McCain will want another $3,000,000,000 more.
Going to vote for him?

The upshot is the federal government has to spend money at an accelerating rate to keep the economy from collapsing. It kills the dollar and increases inflation, but that's another story.

Don't look for the next president to be a fiscal conservative. Likely, he'll outspend Bush.

What the American people got for those tax dollars = nothing

Huh?

More dead Americans
More debt
more terrorists
Higher prices of gas and energy

Doesn't seems to be in the positive though.

Does this inlcude the 20 billion that has just plain "disappeared" from Iraq and the costs of the thousands of weapons and munitions missing from Iraq, or do we have to add another half a trillion?

Does this inlcude the 20 billion that has just plain "disappeared" from Iraq and the costs of the thousands of weapons and munitions missing from Iraq, or do we have to add another half a trillion?

Add another $500,000,000

Chris, you need to add 3 more zeros onto both your posts. sad but true. In an italian pizzeria guy voice -- "that's a lot a zeros!"

JohnnyL

Chris, you need to add 3 more zeros onto both your posts. sad but true. In an italian pizzeria guy voice -- "that's a lot a zeros!"



Whoops. You're right.
Made my keyboard start smokin' just to type so many zeros!

3,000,000,000,000 - post 1

500,000,000,000 - post 2

Its the Taxpayers stupid!

This statement should be more accurate and state that these Iraq and Afghan wars will cost the U.S."Taxpayers" 3 Trillion Dollars.It won't cost Bush or Cheney or their Wall St. cohorts anything.In fact Bush & Co. have made out exactly like bandit$ on all of this (taxpayer financed) blood and destruction! In this comedy of terrors the joke plus the bill,is as usual,tossed upon the dumb_ass American wage earners!

But this is impossible, I know, they told me the oil will pay for the war.
Can you even believe that Bill Kristol is working for the NYT????
I must admit, the Times has truely lost its soul. That paper, long called a "liberal rag" hardly can claim that reputation, No....now it is just a mechanism to display advertising with some very bad attempts at journalism sprinkeled in for irony.

And the GOP whines incessantly about "socialized medicine".

With just average luck we can drive the right from power for many years ! ! !


Go Obama '08

DANNI

How much so badly needed infrastructure could have been built here in the U.S. with that $3 trillion instead of lining the pockets of Bush Republican corporate donors with phony, no bid, cost plus war profiteering contracts.

It sickens one to think about the sheer waste, fraud and theft committed not to mention the more than 600,000 dead (almost 4000 of them our own military boys) who did not have to die had Bush's "war of choice" not been waged.

Chris, if the NYT is compromised then really who do we listen to????
The neocons have won. They are now working within the last bastions of truth, the NYT is now just another Fox.

Chris, if the NYT is compromised then really who do we listen to????

Sadly, you have to go overseas to their media. Go to the BBC, the Guardian and all the other numerous news sources. I started listening to local Spanish tv news here in L.A. back in 2003 because I wasn't even shown pictures on the tv news when the war first started but I at least (along with my Spanish-English dictionary) got SOME of the truth by a watching foreign station.

Go to www.drudgereport.com and all down the left hand side are links to tons of outside U.S. media -- Britain and everywhere.

Sadly, that's what we have to do as all our own media is now corporate-filtered.

Chris,

even going to over seas news it is influenced by the west.

I read alot of the asian times and cross all the different view from many different sources.

It is best to get conflicting points to best see what the actual situation is really being pertrayed.

If you add in the $,75 per day spent in Afghanistan it makes quite a sum.

Over $10 Billion are being spent on upgrading (doubling, in fact) Pakistan's oil refining capacity.

So you guys can get more fuel to flatten the Afghans.

I mention this as there are many people here who keep wondering what happens to the money ($1 Billion a month, more or less) America is paying Pakistan.

Also read my favorite paper...

Excuse me, PAK Goat Fucker, but around here we say "favourite".

We're an American progressive website, 'kay?

It's like someone opened the jugular vein on the treasury.

How long can we keep this up before we're simply flat broke?

BUSH: The CEO President...................wh
o also happens to have BANKRUPTED ALL THREE OF HIS COMPANIES!

Except the lumber company the he tried to deny owning in the 04 debates. "I own a lumber company? Anyone need some lumber.....snicker snicker"

PAK Goat Fucker

Amreekan piss drinker



around here we say "favourite".


As if I give a damn.



We're an American progressive website, 'kay?


I don't get it. If this was an attempt at humor, it escaped me.

What a fucking Bargian!
All to the lowest bidder, right? Wrong.

Our injured troops should have the best health care there is.

No, they are no longer useful to our goals.

Sincerely,

The Bush Administration.

Sue the RNC into extinction!!

In the end it won't be casualty counts that force us to leave Iraq, it will just be too expensive.
Looking back now it seems pretty obvious why we never enacted tax cuts during war time before the treasonous Bush. Those cuts should be immediately repealed and retroactively eliminated for anyone that voted for Bush and his war. You wanted war...they you ought to have to pay for it.

"I believe demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk" - Defense Policy Board Memeber Ken Adelman - 2/13/02

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." - Vice President Dick Cheney, 8/26/02

"We do know that (Saddam) is acitively pursuing a nuclear weapon." - National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, 9/10/02

"It is not knowable how long that conflict would last. I could last, you know, six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." - Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld - 2/7/03

"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators" - Cheney, 3/16/03

"We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." - Deputy Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz, 3/27/03

"We know where (the weapons) are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, north and south somewhat." - Rumsfeld, 3/30/03

"Iraq will not require sustained aid." - OMB Director Mitch Daniels, 3/28/03

"A year from now I'd be surprised if there's not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush." - Fomer Pentagon advisor Richard Perle, 9/22/03

I don't get it. If this was an attempt at humor, it escaped me.

Posted by Tosser

No, it was a very sad attempt by him to forget that he is one of those to blame for all this, as he put these criminals in power. Probably twice.

So what you are saying Mr. President that 1 Trillion has 9 zeros, correct?

**** How long can we keep this up before we're simply flat broke?
Commonsense ****

.......how long did it take Mugabe to cripple Zimbabwe ?.......

.......what we have in Bush is someone just as bright and caring as Mugabe, but without the charm........

.......good thing we have term limits and relatively honest elections........

"I believe demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk" - Defense Policy Board Memeber Ken Adelman - 2/13/02

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." - Vice President Dick Cheney, 8/26/02

"We do know that (Saddam) is acitively pursuing a nuclear weapon." - National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, 9/10/02

"It is not knowable how long that conflict would last. I could last, you know, six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." - Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld - 2/7/03

"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators" - Cheney, 3/16/03

"We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." - Deputy Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz, 3/27/03

"We know where (the weapons) are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, north and south somewhat." - Rumsfeld, 3/30/03

"Iraq will not require sustained aid." - OMB Director Mitch Daniels, 3/28/03

"A year from now I'd be surprised if there's not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush." - Fomer Pentagon advisor Richard Perle, 9/22/03



It's like they were competing in liar's contest.

Based on the current cost of building a light rail transit system (about 300 million for 10 miles in Norfolk, VA) 3 trillion would have built a 100 mile system for each of the 30,000 biggest cities in the US.

Since only 100 cities would need such a system, more than enough would have been left over for extensive high speed rail for the entire country. Gasoline use would be dramatically reduced and many good jobs would be created.

But that wouldn't have pleased Bush and Cheney's buddies: the Saudi Royal family, Exxon, Halliburton, KBR and Blackwater.

But that wouldn't have pleased Bush and Cheney's buddies: the Saudi Royal family, Exxon, Halliburton, KBR and Blackwater.

Posted by ubercynic

C'mon, it's only a coincidence that these companies have made made obscenely record profits in the last few years. Just at the right place at the right time I guess.