Once you strip away all of the feel good rhetoric, what does OSAMA have? This is what should be attacked.

We can all say, "CHANGE! NEW! IMPROVED! BETTER!" but without a clearly defined democratic based gameplan, you gots nuttin'.

Stop all of the image posturing. Make Obama commit to a platform and then attack that!

DUH!

Make Obama commit to a platform and then attack that!


He should have two platforms, just to be even with MCain. Flip McBush makes Romney look determined and consistent.

Nothing in that article surprises me. If your an Obama support you have heard this stuff already. I hope the Obama campigne is preparing for this as I am sure the Clintons would be able to take this on if she gets the nomination.

Dear Abby, My husband is a liar and a cheat. He has cheated on me from
the beginning, and, when I confront him, he denies everything. What's
worse, everyone knows that he cheats on me. It is so humiliating. Also,
since he lost his job six years ago, he hasn't even looked for a new
one. All he does all day is smoke cigars, cruise around and shoot the
bull with his buddies, while I have to work to pay the bills. Since our
daughter went away to college he doesn't even pretend to like me, and
even hints that I may be a lesbian. What should I do?

Signed: Clueless in New York



Dear Clueless:
Grow up and dump him. Good grief woman! You don't need him anymore!
You're a Senator from New York running for President of the United
States. Act like one.

Savage, Limbaugh and the rest of the Neocon lickspittles will soon tie Obama to North Korean dictator Kim il-Sung, plans to put heroin vending machines in the nation's schools, compulsory gay marriage, and the seizure of Bibles, to be replaced by Korans.

Bring it on; we've heard it before.

Hey JJK I so LOVED Your comment on Home Schoolers being dumber than dirt. It's so true isn't it.

Larry Mohr

BTW Why couldn't there have been Grade Card vending machines in Schools when I was going to school. Now THAT would have rocked.

Larry Mohr

Many, many democrats who support Hillary will NOT vote for No-Bama. McCain will get those votes.

Hey JJK I so LOVED Your comment on Home Schoolers being dumber than dirt. It's so true isn't it.

Larry Mohr



says your Momma,Larry...

Hey BOTH My folks are smart. I don't know where I screwed up at.

Larry Mohr

Did you go to public school,Larry?

With the economy as the largest issue according to polls, McCain's admittance that it isn't his strong suit may hurt him badly.

On other issues like health care and the war in Iraq McCain doesn't have a leg to stand on either.

I used to respect the guy a lot more, well before he turned into someone I don't recognize in words anymore.

Yeth I am a product of the public skool sistem.

Larry Mohr

PS I do know how to spell those words correctly so don't have a cow.

So,what you're saying,AU,is,you once thought of him as a liberal,but now that he's had to start playing concerto in D minor to a conservative audience,you have no use for him. Speaks well of your base instincts.

And just exactly what is the big "O" experienced in? He has been in the state senate for a few years and the US senate for 2 years but only 1/2 time in DC. My 4 year old grand daughter has just about as much experience as he has.

Hey JJK I so LOVED Your comment on Home Schoolers being dumber than dirt. It's so true isn't it.

Larry Mohr


Yeth I am a product of the public skool sistem.

Larry Mohr

PS I do know how to spell those words correctly so don't have a cow.


Posted by LarryMohr



Ahemmmm...are you not proving the case for what you profess to be against?

"My 4 year old grand daughter has just about as much experience as he has.

Posted by Sniper at 2008-02-18 06:07 PM"

Eeeewwww. That is gross. No wonder she doesn't want to visit grandpa. Someone should calls the cops on you.

Many, many democrats who support Hillary will NOT vote for No-Obama. McCain will get those votes.



As a Clinton supported I will only say that I am NOT one of those people. I was at the bar last Saturday night talking about the Obama vs Clinton vote and I have too tell you in my experience the opposite is true. I will vote for who ever the Dem's end up nominating

Well, Stu, different bar, different conversations...

And just exactly what is the big "O" experienced in? He has been in the state senate for a few years and the US senate for 2 years but only 1/2 time in DC. My 4 year old grand daughter has just about as much experience as he has.

No experience?

A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, Obama worked as a community organizer, university lecturer, and civil rights lawyer before running for public office and serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. After an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for U.S. Senate in 2003.

The following year, while still an Illinois state legislator, Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.[4] He was elected to the U.S. Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.[5] As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he co-sponsored bipartisan legislation for controlling conventional weapons and for promoting greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. In the current 110th Congress, he has sponsored legislation on lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel.

He's got enuff experience to qualify for the job.

McLame and sHrillary have too much "experience" being corporate whores and pandering lap dogs. The problem with electing people with too much experience in DC is you end up with evil, soul-dead fuck ups like Cheney and Rumsfeld in Charge. (Dumbya was never in charge of shit, btw).

Shitheads like that are so corporately corrupted that their entire time in office is spent enriching the corporate entities that they owe allegiance to (and themselves) rather than doing the right thing as regards the American people and the Constition they've sworn to defend.

Too much time in DC should be a warning sign to voters who are paying attention this time around, oh Snippy one.

Yer being fucked up the ass by this admin and you keep asking them to use yer flat head to rest their beer on.

Yer Simply Not Paying Attention, SNiPA.

Tsk Tsk.

Be Well.

"Yer being fucked up the ass by this admin and you keep asking them to use yer flat head to rest their beer on."

I imagine he's paying taxes in the U.S. and will vote for whichever candidate he so chooses. YOU, on the other hand, oh impotent vegetable that you are, will do neither. All you ever do is sit on your fat ass, pontificate, patronize, and insult U.S. citizens like some elitist snob while you actually contibute NOTHING to society in the U.S. and probably not to Canadian society either.

Be Gone!

Well, Stu, different bar, different conversations...



That is true and I do live in Chicago Obama's's home town. it is funny too me that just a few years ago here in Chicago every Democrat I knew respected the Chitons and everyone was more then happy with Barrack as well.


The Primaries this time around have split both parties. Half of the Republicans do not like McCain and about half of the Democrat's are not going to get who they wanted as a nominee. I like Obama but I also like Clinton when you view either of them up against what the Republicans have.

I hate spell check

it Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton

not Chiton and Barrack

I think they are making a mistake in focusing on his lack of content in his speaches. The speaches are good, he is a good speaker. As I was chastised to do, I have visited Obama's web site and reviewed his stand on different issues. The key is to expose those stands, what they will cost, etc. That should make it easy for a lot of people to decide.

Hey American1st Wallgreens has Sense's of Humour on sale this week. Buy 4 get 3 free.

Larry Mohr

The RNC has no chance of beating Obama in the general election with any remaining candidate. Their only hope is Hillary being nominated or someone new stepping into the race on their side.

That's the attack plan. That ain't gonna get it done. Those of you righties tighties that think the Clinton's are this all powerful smear machine, where is it. I 'll tell you where. Nowhere, there are no boats to swift if you get my drift.

CLINTONISKING you've got it backwards in my opinion. The Barack supporters aren't gonna show up for Hillary the way the Clinton's supporters will for Obama. Obama has a whole group of voters that are unique, there just because of his candidacy.

Their only hope is Hillary being nominated or someone new stepping into the race on their side.

POSTED BY JOE

Agreed!

Obama's lack of "experience" in Washington just may be his strong suit. Look what all the experienced pols have wrought in the last 8 years.

Remind me what the approval rating of Congress is right now.

The Barack supporters aren't gonna show up for Hillary the way the Clinton's supporters will for Obama.

Even Barack knows this as he pointed out himself. But when asked directly if Michelle Obama will vote for the Democrat if it is not her husband she said she didn't know.

I'll vote for Obama but Hill gets the nod I stay home or worse vote for McCain

clintonisking admitted to only liking Hillary because of being a woman.

I bet both Hillary and Bill will vote for Obama if they have too.

clintonisking admitted to only liking Hillary because of being a woman.

Posted by messiah

you are full of shit

the only people voting for Hillary are gays and women. Oh I forgot illegal aliens.

McCain's battle cry of 'One hundred more years in Iraq!! and the GOP's slogan of 'Bring Democracy to the world one dead baby at a time!!' should be all they need.

My bumper sticker reads "Anybody but McCain in '08"

I would like to take this opportunity to thank those of you on the Right for nominating such an easy mark. Maybe your subconscious, which I believe really does want the best for our great country, despite your irrational and self-destructive support of president Bush, knew McCain's nomination was the surest way to ensure an Obama presidency.

So once again, thank you for your patriotism, no matter how inadvertant it was.

"Yer being fucked up the ass by this admin and you keep asking them to use yer flat head to rest their beer on."

Funny Flag Spud, welcome back!

the only people voting for Hillary are gays and women. Oh I forgot illegal aliens.

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Wrong...

Mcflipflop has the illegal vote..

Don't forget his ears!

Sincerely, National Union of Truck MudFlap's

I realize it's temporary but it's hard for a con like me to jump too hard into the Obama/Clinton fracas. Usually it's dueling over hits on Dubya or other Reps. So I'll let this thing play out, but be aware the Reps will come out swinging, just as Dems do against us.

I think Clinton would be easier for us to beat given her history and personality. Obama is more likeable but also more of an unknown. Their policies are pretty similar.

To be candid I'm torn between wanting to put a stake through the Clinton family dynasty once and for all... and seeing an easier candidate (Hillary) to beat in the general election.

Most on the DR would rather have Obama head the ticket. He and Hillary both have attackable profiles. We'll have some more fun once this thing's been decided.

Posted by OohRah

ff

So once again, thank you for your patriotism, no matter how inadvertant it was.

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AMEN Brethren... Praise Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus!

There is no way that Hillary will take the VP spot--she and Bill want to be president--not vice president!

And Obama may not take the VP spot for Hillary--since there is not enough room for 3 presidents on the ticket..

Heard that Obama may take Bloomberg on a third party ticket with 100 million dollars and THAT would be something. I don't think there is enough time. This will all be known by June 7th.

Heck Obama is likely going to pull through on this. He is leading in WI and now the gap in TX is within the margin of error.

And Bill looks like he is going to blow a gasket--red faced everywhere he goes and waging that finger at people--"I never had sex" finger wag...

Does he look red faced or is that our TV?

Murphy

--"I never had sex" finger wag...

Does he look red faced or is that our TV?

Murphy


Posted by MURPHY at 2008-02-18 08:22 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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its not the tv.

That shits too funny!LMFAO

kris p bacon

those are obscure straws your trembling little fingers are grasping at

those are obscure straws

All of these bills get stuffed with amendments that don't belong, or undermine the intent of the legislation. There's any number of reasons to vote for or against a bill, and not all of them are respectable. It's one of major problems we have in government.

As for Obama/Bloomberg...that would be a hoot. Mayor Mikey is at that point where he could shoot the whole load and still have money to live on. McCain on public financing, Clinton struggling to raise money, and prime time filled with 90 second spots explaining why both of them are too corrupt to be trusted in office much less be elected President.

Neither would stand a detailed review, and an independent candidacy would not have to protect a party full of crooks, liars, and perverts.

At this point I don't care about Senatauh Clintooon. I want to see Bubba crying.

Oh let me guess... they're racists right...

Unless you vote for Obama 17 times while signing the deed to your house over to him you are a racist...

I've got to be honest, this is one of the main reasons why I can't stand the idea of an Obama presidency. I don't see anyone really opposing him, even if they see his administration as horrible for America. Because they will be called a racist from the moment they raise there hand to speak.

--"I never had sex" finger wag...


What's really sad is it's true.

I haven't seen one president worth a cup of cold, moldy spit since Ike.

Can you imagine Goldwater doing Marilyn Monroe in the White House? Let alone an intern.

dethpud, what are the numbers for the lotto tonight? Your post indicated you have a crystal ball. Besides, when you can vote in a U.S election and you don't bash people's dead wives we might give a damn what you think.

Robbyhole admits that race is one of the main reasons he can't stand the idea of a black man being president. The other two main reasons are that Flush Rimjob told him to so and BillO said so too.

Sad thing is that this is exactly where McCain will get 90 percent of his votes.

Nixon had his moments, though...

Nixon took us off the gold standard on 8/15/71, thus declaring to the world that the USA is now an empire & it would tax the world thru inflation via the petro dollar.

"..they will be called a racist from the moment they raise there hand to speak."

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

probably somewhat true...sorta like the anti-semites bite, aye?:>)

And that was 1971.

"raise there"

Where?

Robbyhole admits that race is one of the main reasons he can't stand the idea of a black man being president

You're a fucking idiot...

First off I said that accusations of racism, not the race of the candidate, was the reason I didn't want Barack Obama to win.

Second, I didn't say anything about Black men in general, I said Obama...

Thank you for proving my point about accusations of racism.

So,what you're saying,AU,is,you once thought of him as a liberal,but now that he's had to start playing concerto in D minor to a conservative audience,you have no use for him. Speaks well of your base instincts.

Posted by American1st

Geez, talk about putting words in someone's mouth they didn't say...

McCain had a rep as a moderate who stood up for what's right no matter what the political consequences within his own party.

He turned into a Bush lacky and has backpeddled on almost everything he stood for before he started running for president. Kind of like Mitt Romney the pro gay marriage, pro choice, pro universal health care governor who morphed into another guy in the same body.

If McCain is willing to abandon everything he stood for previously what does that say about him? He'd have gotten MORE of the general election vote if he'd just stood for his long held principles rather than pander to conservatives.

Axe, it is amazing how I say my concern is about accusations of racism and you come here, call me and 90% of the people who will vote for McCain racists... unbelievable man...

what a complete fucking tool.

That's true, Rob. McCain voters aren't racist, they're just in favor of a 100 year war. :)

well played Bill...

The Republicans are gay.

- Rob_The_A_Hole

Rob_The_A_Hole

Posted by Apocalypto


yup... that's why we carry 'Frisco year after year...

Rob_The_A_Hole

Posted by Apocalypto


yup... that's why we carry 'Frisco year after year...

You're definitely carriers of something.

You're definitely carriers of something.

Posted by Apocalypto


Can't be AIDS... we haven't all fucked your mother...

Or have we?

Can't be AIDS... we haven't all fucked your mother...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Conservatives are so eloquent.

The Repubs are relying on a strategy who's time has passed. They no longer have any credibility. The word "swiftboat" no longer means a small gunship but the act of smearing a political rival and is permanantly stuck to the Republicans. If that's all they've got (besides electronic voting machines), they're screwed.
And what does Obama have? More brains than anyone else in the game. His message has struck a national chord. He has the momentum of an avalanche. He is the next POTUS.

He is the next POTUS

Yes--We can call him President Hussein.

Murphy

Don't you Obamamites get what is going to happen here?

Clinton is going to win the nomination--by any means necessary--super delegates, MI, FL delegates-

And they will blow up the Dem party in the process but what the hey!

Great for the Repubs!

Murphy

That's a bit of old news don't ya' think? 1994??

Then let's talk about Alice Palmer and how Obama sent his staffers in and disqualified her signatures to run for the same seat in the IL senate seat that Obama wanted. The Mother of Civil Rights-- he bagged her royally.

So much for past trangressions.

Good Grief 1994? LOL!

Murphy

Tough to believe you're a registered dem, murphy. So often you perfectly parrot the rep talking points.

Tough to believe you're a registered dem, murphy. So often you perfectly parrot the rep talking points.

Posted by Alexandrite


No kidding. I'm personally of the opinion that Murphy is a software program, a political bot.

Murphy is like a football fan who supports the easiest team to beat in say the AFC who She wants to play the NFC. She is a NFC Person however regardless of Her signed Party affiliation.

Larry Mohr

...talk about Alice Palmer and how Obama sent his staffers in and disqualified her signatures

~Murphy.

Let's tall the whole story while we're at it. Alice Palmer was a distinguished Senator with a safe seat when she bravely decided to run for Congress. She introduced Barack Obama around and told folks that he was her natural successor. She got crushed in her congressional bid and when she asked Barack to step aside and let her take her seat back he didn't. He used his legal acumen to pore over the petitions and signatures of not just Alice but 4 other potential candidates in total.

At the end of the day he ran unopposed on the Dem side. Asked about the incident at the time Barack sed...

"To my mind, we were just abiding by the rules that had been set up," Obama recalled.

"I gave some thought to ... should people be on the ballot even if they didn't meet the requirements," he said. "My conclusion was that if you couldn't run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be."

Asked whether the district's primary voters were well-served by having only one candidate, Obama smiled and said: "I think they ended up with a very good state senator."

He has since stated that he wasn't particularily proud of disenfrnchising Alice and he wishes he had gona about it differently but to me it just sez that Barack is one commited, tough, ambitious politician. Hillary claims to be tough but having survived politics on the south side of Chicago is a whole new level of tough.

But Obama didn't gloat over the victories. "I don't think he thought it was, you know, sporting," said Will Burns, a 1996 Obama campaign volunteer who assisted with the petition challenges. "He wasn't very proud of it.

Of course he got lucky a couple of times too with the Jack Ryan and Mel Reynolds sex scandals, that plus the GOPher deciding to run the wingnutty Alan Keyes against him.

Spud has sed more than a few times that I've read all the hit pieces I can find on the man and at the end of the day he's no angel but he is America's best hope.

08ama '08.

Be Well.

/Off to make popcorn and await The Daily Show now.
//stage left.

Most political disagreement consists of disputes over facts. We don't need a commander in chief, we need an educator in chief. Someone who will talk honestly to people so they can make sound decisions. Eisenhower and Roosevelt did it well. Johnson, Nixon, Clinton and BushII lied their fucking heads off. The others are a mixed bag.

The Republocrats don't want you to know how badly they've fucked things up. Expect the great financial and war fraud to continue through the next election. Then the shit will hit the fan.

Do the Pubs even remember how to have a regular political discussion.

It's all, "But our opponent did this..." or "the Democrat is evil because..." can't they ever let their positions speak for themselves?

They constantly crow about how different their platforms are and how their message is what's best for America.

Well, if you're message is so great and pure, why do you need such tactics to scare and fool people into voting for you?

It's all, "But our opponent did this..." or "the Democrat is evil because..." can't they ever let their positions speak for themselves?

This gets a funny flag...

You've got to be shitting me right?

I just now saw the actual video clip of Michelle Obama. She said:

"For the first time in my adult lifetime I am proud of my country...."

Hellooooo? The FIRST time you've ever been proud of your country? Not good.

Maybe she hasn't been an adult very long Chris... I know for the last seven years that has been pretty much true for me.

Well, if you're message is so great and pure, why do you need such tactics to scare and fool people into voting for you?

Posted by TFDNihilist at 2008-02-19 08:39 AM |


A planning meeting of the Republican National Committee in California suggests that the GOP will attempt to portray Barack Obama as inexperienced...

Boy I can see why you are so upset about the GOP calling B Obama inexperienced. What a vicious, vile, scare tactic. Maybe they should point out his extreme left leaning views as well as his consistent liberal voting record. Show everyone the experience he does have will take the Country in the wrong direction.

Well hell I can see why the Republitards are going crazy over calling Obama inexperienced. McCaint has to be the most experienced Senator in Congress these days having served since the Taft administration.

He is older than dirt, ill tempered and fucking loco.

His campaign slogan should be "Get off my lawn I wanna take a nap."

will take the Country in the wrong direction.


Taking the country in the wrong direction would be perpetuating the failed policies of the current administration for the next four years.

Thankfully Obama won't do that.

"A senior member of Hussein's staff reports, on condition of anonymity, that Hussein has contacted the Patriots to do some research into this RNC event."

Obama's team should hire me if they wish to ward off Republican attacks. Republicans should hire me if they wish to expose Obama as a lightweight with a big mouth.

I need money.

Just kidding!

A well placed expression and preception can create wonders in the minds of undecided voters.

"Hellooooo? The FIRST time you've ever been proud of your country? Not good."

I know. No one ever exaggerates.

Especially when it comes to the terror threat.

lol. What a non-issue. If this is what we're to expect for the next several months from the geriatric campaign, Obama's going to sail. I can't wait for the revelation from McCain's people that Obama lies when he refers to his audience as a "good looking crowd". I'm sure he'll even go the extra mile and show photographic evidence that they were, in fact, ugly as sin.