Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Thursday, February 14, 2008

Fox News' Tom Sullivan compared Obama to Hitler by playing their speeches side by side and saying that they had a similar style to them.

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And why wouldn't they? Looks like even FOX has given up on Shillary.

What's the matter with these people? Don't they realize that Obama is a Marxist?



Oh My Rob will be so upset!

Doesn't Fox news know that they are the ones that are supposed to be compared to Hitler?

Just ask Ted Turner:
demdiatribe.blogspot.com

Wasn't Hitler a great public speaker?

Posted by JOE at 2008-02-13 02:58 PM | Reply | Flag


Seems to be a common theme.

It's called Godwins Law.

The fact that such a stupid, nonsensical comment gets uttered by someone prominent in public life makes me fear for this country. And not because of he who uttered it, but the fools that apparently believe it.

The fact that such a stupid, nonsensical comment gets uttered by someone prominent in public life makes me fear for this country. And not because of he who uttered it, but the fools that apparently believe it

John, I agree. I think the exact same thing about all those people who compare Bush to Hitler and "the fools that apparently believe it".

www.google.com

Well, I guess Obama has arrived now -- seems like no politician in this country can become a real success without someone comparing him (or her) to Hitler.



Bowa:

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1] is an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states:[2][3]

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a caution against the use of inflammatory rhetoric or exaggerated comparisons, and is often conflated with fallacious arguments of the reductio ad Hitlerum form.

The rule does not make any statement whether any particular reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that one arising is increasingly probable. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact. Although in one of its early forms Godwin's law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions,[5] the law is now applied to any threaded online discussion: electronic mailing lists, message boards, chat rooms, and more recently blog comment threads and wiki talk pages.


en.wikipedia.org's_law

Thanks Taxman.

It sure does seem that eventually all political arguments arrive at a comparison between a person or group to Hitler and the Nazis.

It's the "double-jinx, no backsies to infinity" of what passes for political discourse nowadays.

I've watched more Hitler speeches at this point in my life than Obama's. All I can say is: what are those people at Fox smoking?

Hitler - NO. A Pied Piper for the ignorant masses - YES! He says so much so eloquently, yet says nothing.

This actually makes a lot of sense. Hitler, by all accounts, was an inspiring leader. Just because their public oration is similar does not mean he will be the same. To make that conclusion, whether you think it true or not, is recoculous. This is actually quite a compliment if not taken in any other context.

It seems to be so cool to compare contemporary politicians to Hitler. Sadly, it happens a lot here on the DR, too.

It's so uncool that people have already forgotten that ugly era of history and what Hitler really was.

Sad.

"compare ... to Hitler"

He was quite successful.

John, I agree. I think the exact same thing about all those people who compare Bush to Hitler and "the fools that apparently believe it".

Bush is best compared to Mussolini anyway.

he is quite charismatic.

McCain sure ain't.

Egad, that's offensive.

Those Neo-Nazis really need to sue FOX.

I agree he is worse than Hitler..
This guy makes Hugo Chaves sounds like an angel..
He talks about taking money from the rich and all these entitlement programs that ride along with China and Cuba.
Osama..sorry I mean Obama you preach about change we can believe in..what do you excactly mean?
Are you going to build concentration camps?
I see changes..by you being so dumb and voted against survaillance act, you have left me my wife and six other people that I know in one night (change of vote).
The only change we need is for you to shut the hell up...

LONG LIVE

Tom Sullivan

Thank you Tom Sullivan

How do you compare such evil and hatred that was Hitler and the Nazis?

Osama..sorry I mean Obama.....

Posted by cmsa1r at 2008-02-14 10:49 PM | Reply | Flag:


You keep whining about how you feel so unsafe that he didn't vote for the surveillance act, yet it's your false prophet Bush that let Osama Bin Laden get away twice and then turned his back on the man who killed 3000 American civilians, saying that he was 'not a priority'.

Your glaring hypocrisy is amusing.

Fuck you assholes, make no mistake..Bush is Hitler!

Sincerely, Danni, Money$ and Commonretard

I don't speak german so I probably couldn't grasp the subtleties, but Hitler seemed to be very angry and shouted quite a bit. I don't think he was talking about finding common ground with each other.

I do find it interesting how offended some are by the message of hope. Such cynics we've become.

Its going to be a long 8 years for fox.

Add My name to that list WisGod.

Larry Mohr

Fuck you assholes, make no mistake..Bush is Hitler!

Uh, not to put too fine a point on this, but this entire article is about Fox' Sullivan (not some bloggers) saying:

Fuck you assholes, make no mistake..Obama is Hitler!

"Obvious" isn't your middle name, is it?

Consider it done, Fraulein Mohr.

well he may not be a hitler, but he sure does have the double thumbs up from Daniel Ortega!

www.iht.com

This story is very interesting and makes me wonder if there is not some concerted effort to equate Obama and Hitler. This afternoon, on my way home from work, I was listening to the Sean Hannity radio show. Now, I'm not a Hannity supporter, nor am I a Obama/Hillary supporter. I voted for Paul in the primary and I don't know who I'll vote for in the general election. Anyway, a female caller to the Hannity program started as usual, complimenting Hannity and such, and then started to say that she was disappointed in McCain, etc. and then went on to say she understood that Obama was charismatic and such, and thought he was a great speaker. Then, out of the blue she started to directly compare Obama to Hitler, saying that Hitler was also a good speaker, but then based policy, she said Obama was comparable to Hitler in what he wanted to do. Hannity hesitated, then said that he didn't want to go down the road of comparing anyone to Hitler and that Obama was not like Hitler. Usually, with an unruly caller Hannity hangs up or whatever, but he kept her on the line. It was an odd exchange, in my opinion. It seemed like he gave her just enough time to make her point but then gave just a strong enough denunciation to make himself seem reasonable. It was like an attorney in court, letting a statement into the record, for the jury's benefit just to have it stricken by objection. One cannot unring a bell.

Bush is best compared to Mussolini anyway.


While Bush shares a few characteristics with some of history's worst leaders, you really can't look back and find anyone really like him: inarticulate, dim, conniving, dishonest, disinterested, easily manipulated, with a messianic complex, etc. I think it's safe to say that Bush has carved out a whole new nut-job-ruler niche for himself.

Hitler = inspiring speaker = Ronald Reagan = Barack Obama

???

ah yes and the bush bashing continues even today..

and of course most of you who are attacking this guy are probably some of the same ones who called bush hitler but thats all to be expected. one reason is that the good news coming out of iraq about the legislation that is clearing the way for more sunni involvement has to make you really pissed what with that good news coming out, so we understand your angst.
and of course when we talk of hitler we can also link our head in the sand then with what dems want to do if elected.

I think it's safe to say that Bush has carved out a whole new nut-job-ruler niche for himself.

He brings to mind the title Generalissimo.

He sure seems intent on turning this country into a banana republic.

Fuck you assholes, make no mistake..Bush is Hitler!

Sincerely, Danni, Money$ and Commonretard

Posted by wisgod at 2008-02-14 11:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

PissGod, can you link to any post of mine where I called Bush a Nazi or equated him to Hitler?

Of course you can't.

Just because Bush's granddaddy did business with Hitler and the Nazis doesn't necessarily make him one.

and of course most of you who are attacking this guy are probably some of the same ones who called bush hitler but thats all to be expected. .....

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-02-14 11:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Can you tell me how to tune into the National TV show that the people you accuse are the hosts of?

and of course when we talk of hitler we can also link our head in the sand then with what dems want to do if elected.

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-02-14 11:39 PM | Reply | Flag

yeah, remember all that goose stepping and concentration camps we had when Clinton was in office?

A regular third-reich this country was.

Fox has a job to do. Glorify Republican's. Our vaste sheepish population makes this another cakewalk.

Its very simple. We kill for love, destroy for profit and torture for freedom.

Whether you have faith or not matters not. You pay and they play.

"He brings to mind the title Generalissimo."

A bumbling one at that.

us.imdb.com



Hitler was black?

Who knew?

Half, Corky

lol

ah nutcase and commonsense........well this site is the ONLY place those two words will ever be put together.......AH........yuk yuk...that was a good one.............

common......what in the wide world of sports are you talking about? to use a phrase I used in dating from age 17 to 19......"I dont get it"

The real comparison would be to other Americans such as FDR, JFK and MLK. FOX uses Hitler because that's what they do.

"to use a phrase I used in dating from age 17 to 19......"I dont get it"

And what a coincidence...you've used that same phrase now for 17 to 19 years, and you may use it for another 17 to 19 years!

How old was this 65 year old when he watched Hitler? My math skills are not so hot but didn't Hitler die in 1945? At two and three my kids were watching Barney.

How old was this 65 year old when he watched Hitler? My math skills are not so hot but didn't Hitler die in 1945? At two and three my kids were watching Barney.

common......what in the wide world of sports are you talking about? to use a phrase I used in dating from age 17 to 19......"I dont get it"

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-02-15 12:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

You're alwyas going on about how the dema are commies (or nazis) and are going to ruin the country and turn it into a communist state.

I pointed to the most recent dem presidency and used sarcasm to show you that it wasn't going to happen according to your worries.

Get it?

yup !


and of course when we talk of hitler we can also link our head in the sand then with what dems want to do if elected.

Posted by bushlovertwo



huh? Can anybody help here?

I agree and am a liberal, with con leanings. All the hyperbolic crap being slung out today does the country NO GOOD. It does not solve problems; it just wastes time--politicians flaming on each other instead of doing the business we elected them for.

Let me make myself perfectly clear, Bush is not Hitler. Hitler was evil but he wasn't stupid.

Jesus Christ!!

They are really pulling out all stops!

This is stupid. What, now everyone who speaks well and inspires their audience is like Hitler?

Obama along with others should be judged based on what they say they will do. Where do they stand on the issues.

Will they lower taxes? Will they secure the border? Will they fix Social Security, Medicare/aid? How about the war on terror, how do they propose to conduct that, what are they going to do about the economy?

He says so much so eloquently, yet says nothing.

Its amazing that he is not a republican.

I though Obama was going to end the war in Iraq so it could be spent on domestic causes. Seems he is already looking at handing portions of it over to combat poverty in other countries.

Obama's Global Tax Proposal Up for Senate Vote


AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | February 12, 2008

It appears the Senate version is being pushed not only by Biden and Obama, a member of the committee, but Lugar, the ranking Republican member.

A nice-sounding bill called the "Global Poverty Act," sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.

Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has not endorsed either Senator Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton in the presidential race. But on Thursday, February 14, he is trying to rush Obama's "Global Poverty Act" (S.2433) through his committee. The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.

The bill, which is item number four on the committee's business meeting agenda, passed the House by a voice vote last year because most members didn't realize what was in it. Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require. According to the website of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, no hearings have been held on the Obama bill in that body.

www.aim.org

Are you going to build concentration camps?

What a stupid comment.

How old was this 65 year old when he watched Hitler? My math skills are not so hot but didn't Hitler die in 1945? At two and three my kids were watching Barney.



Yeah, there are no video or audio recordings of his speeches at all.

Try thinking outside the box.

he should grow a little mustache

Hitler would have gassed Obama.

Cheers,
Walt

Speaking of gas...

Obama is like Hitler after all.

Hitler:

Fischer-Tropsch synfuel technology was developed by Hitler's chemists to produce alternative fuels for his WW II efforts. These very same FT elements are being touted by promoters right now rather big time in the USA.
www.grist.org
Obama:
In the CTL process, coal is gasified, the gas is run through the Fischer-Tropsch process, and the resulting fuel is refined into diesel. The final diesel product is cleaner than conventional diesel because most of the sulfur and nitrogen is removed during the Fischer-Tropsch process. Currently, all the vehicles in South Africa run on fuels produced by Fischer-Tropsch.
obama.senate.gov

Maybe Barack and Hitler aren't so bad after all.

Cheers,
Walt

We all know several people who should be compared to Hitler. Besides being a rousing speaker, Hitler was a VEGETARIAN!!

I'm surprised no one has yet compared Abraham Lincoln and Albert Schweitzter to Hitler. Come on people, we can do better!!

Oh, wait! I get it!

Hitler killed millions of jews! And other innocent people!!

Obama is JUST LIKE HITLER!!!

So who could we use for a side-by-side comparison with W's speeches? Hmmm... having a mental block here but there has to be somebody. Vernon?

Com'on

Hitler had to work his way to the top.

Obama wants to jump from "Start" to the "Finish Line" without running the race.

No comparison at all.


So who could we use for a side-by-side comparison with W's speeches?

Still hating on Bush. Bush aint on the ballot, Hitl I mean Barack is.

Cheers,
Walt

BELLA

Pee Wee Herman comes to mind.

Seems to Me Obama is doing a grand job running the race. At least He ain't trying to cheat like Hillary is (Mi and Fl) Capisce??

Larry Mohr

If speaking well in public equates you to Hitler, then Bush is definitely not Hitler.

Hey what if the Person in question Acts like Hitler "Smells" like Hitler "Tastes" like Hitler what do We do compare Him to oh say Bugs Bunny?? I think NOT

Larry Mohr

"At least He ain't trying to cheat like Hillary is (Mi and Fl) Capisce??"

Yeah, I "capisce." I wonder though....what if he had WON in FL and MI???

More Bush bashing, Jesus! You people need a new hobby. I do admire your commitment though.

Cheers,
Walt

Jest if He had done what Hillary had done it would be wrong for doing what Hillary hath done. You Capisce??

Larry Mohr

Hey what if the Person in question Acts like Hitler "Smells" like Hitler "Tastes" like Hitler what do We do compare Him to oh say Bugs Bunny?? I think NOT

Not sure what Hitler smells or tastes like. Balack and Hitler have the same views on CTL, agree or disagree?

Cheers,
Walt

Ummmmmm CTL???

Larry

Posted by Walt at 2008-02-15 08:04 AM | Reply

Larry CTL. Coal to Liquid Fuel. See my post above or visit
www.drudge.com

Saying they have similar styles in their speaches dosen't say they are saying similar things.

"Jest if He had done what Hillary had done it would be wrong for doing what Hillary hath done. You Capisce??"

Yeah, I "capisce." He's the ONLY honest politician on the North American continent and is a veritable saint! A real anomoly in politics. I bet he wouldn't say, "shit," even if he had a mouthful. Did I get it right?



Balack al Hussein al CHIMPY abu Osama bin Madrasa for President.

Cheers,
Walt

Saying they have similar styles in their speaches dosen't say they are saying similar things.

Posted by Sniper


There are other people to comapre too... using Hitler is done for a very specific reason.

I really can't stand Hitler comparisons... because none of today's politicians are anything close and it cheapens the sacrafices of the millions who fought to stop him and the Germans.

Hope this hosts ball sack gets snagged on a rusty nail... somehow.

Please do not insult Hitler by comparing him to Bush.

Hitler could have gotten a lot further in WWII if he had stayed out of Russia, but he was losing his marbles by then.

Hitler actually accomplished missions. Other world leaders actually liked Hitler. Hitler wrote one hell of a book in Mein Kampf. Please do not ruin his memory.

Do you think Hitler would have read my pet goat? Even if he did, do you think that Hitler would have sat on his ass if someone told him Germany was being attacked whilst reading my pet goat.

NO COMPARISON.

RaHole & BLT,

Of course you don't get it. You're sadly misinformed and likely to stay that way. How else could you stand steadfastly against your own best interests, watch the country collapse economically, diplomatically and militarily and call it strong and successful.

Cheney, Greenspan, Goldman Sachs (et al) bet their fortunes against the dollar even while they pretended all the bullshit they fed you. Liars and winners, how can you beat that. Don't worry by the time the truth be known, the Dems will be in power and be perfect scapegoats. Then you can go on believing in Milton Friedman until we've joined the third world.

Cheney, Greenspan, Goldman Sachs (et al) bet their fortunes against the dollar.

AMEN.

Didn't somebody named Pete Rose get into a world of shit for betting on his team? Nothing will ever be done to these criminals. I have been saying this for quite sometime.

How come the democrats can't muster up a solid legal case against such blatant arrogance?

How come the democrats can't muster up a solid legal case against such blatant arrogance?

Posted by AuntieSocial


Maybe because you're a raving lunatic and that isn't grounds for criminal prosecutions against others?

raising the rates 13 times in a row while you control the Fed and profiting from betting against the dollar is not criminal?

I actually like the raving lunatic bit...

I can't believe Walt is moaning about Bush and references to him on this thread.

Ain't he and his ilk been doing the Clinton Deflection Act for years now?? Even when clinton (bill) wasn't the prez.

Obviously Walt, Like Hitler, is a....Moron.

BTW Fox punched a hole through the floor and created a whole new low with this one.

OBAMA sounds more like MLK jr. than Hitler. But the shills at FOX don't want to mention that fact...it might energize a voting base they and the RNC desperately want to keep disenfranchised!

Wait...didn't Hitler also have two eyes, a nose and a mouth just like Obama??

Damn tricky Nazi's!

My father brought this up yesterday. He made the same comparison. He said the people flock to Obama the same way the people of Germany flocked to Hitler. He said it reminded him of the days of his youth when he heard Hitler giving the the masses speeches of change and hope. He said the people would hang onto his every word during the speeches and it didn't matter to them what the reality was, they were ready to follow him anywhere. He said of course the people were the ones to pay the price in the end.

The comparison is a cheap one. The fact is that Obama is a great orator. He could have been compared to more positive historical figures, but, not surprisingly, Fox once again showed us its' "fair and balanced" approach (i.e.: blatantly hysterical right-wing platform).

Those claiming that "it's just comparing speech styles" are either brainwashed beyond reason or willfully disingenuous.


THE CALLER called in and did the initial comparison, Tom Sullivan simply put them side by side.

So it really wasn't the fox reporter who compared them.

And if the left is going to get in a tiffy comparing ANYONE to Hitler, they should look in the mirror, thats all they've been saying for 8 straight years.

"My father brought this up yesterday. He made the same comparison."

uhhhhh let me guess....your father is a right wing tool.
Anyone that makes a comparison of Obama to Hitler is too stupid too bother with.

"My father brought this up yesterday."

Does he bring it up a lot? Because the bar to the comparison doesn't seem to have been set very high.

This isn't exactly a phenomenon with revolutionary rhetoric...its just people showing up to support a guy whose policy positions are clearly in the political mainstream. The fact that he uses hope rather than fear to inspire doesn't make him a bit like Hitler...who used BOTH at the same time. No more than MLK or Ronald Reagan was like Hitler.

The fact that he uses hope rather than fear to inspire doesn't make him a bit like Hitler...who used BOTH at the same time. No more than MLK or Ronald Reagan was like Hitler.

And Hitler didn't just use rhetorical fear either. He used blunt force to enforce his bloody policies.

"Posted by AuntieSocial: How come the democrats can't muster up a solid legal case against such blatant arrogance?"


Spoken like a true liberal fascist.

Oh Man I heard that show, It was a hoot. They would play a Clip of Adolf and then Barack, and they did sound eerily alike. And all those swaying, glazed eyed, weak-minded liberals Following Obama got so upset. We know Barack Is no Hitler, Sullivan was more equating the crowd as being weak-minded followers who want someone to lead them, doesn't matter if it is good or bad. It was hysterical. Obama Followers are 1933 Germans. And the black guy who called up and was offended that a black man could be equated to Hitler, I was screaming..Little Black Hitler's all over Africa and Idi Amin comes to mind. He was such a weak-minded PC HOMO."there is no way a black man can be A Hitler, We are a Democrat protected class, therefore we are pure and righteous" he was so brainewashed. It was Hilarious after Libs calling conservatives "Nazi's" and Bush Hitler for years, they got a little taste and boy did they get their panties in a bunch

There was a great program on History Channel about a public-speaking coach who specialized in "mesmerizing" techniques (crowd mass hypnosis) through the use of cadence, voice inflection, and gestures. He was very close to Hitler during the 1920's and was kind of his mentor, and is credited with giving Hitler his 'delivery style'. I wonder if Obama has had similar training in oratory for the masses. Despite the fact that I think every noun and every second verb out of his mouth is crap, he does say it well. And I would definitely blow him. I mean... umm ...oh my God, where did that come from?

"And all those swaying, glazed eyed, weak-minded liberals"

After electing Bush twice I just don't think righties have a right to call anyone weak minded.
You guys really should do the nation a favor and just keep quiet until us adults choose a new president.

"uhhhhh let me guess....your father is a right wing tool. Anyone that makes a comparison of Obama to Hitler is too stupid too bother with."

Let's try this again. The comparison was only in they way Obama and Hitler were able to rally the crowds. Nothing more. I added that the people paid for their foolishness because they followed blindly.

My father is a leftie who loves your mentor Olbermann. Being from Europe from the late '20s to the mid '50s he knows how the two speakers compare first hand. It would be correct that his opinion is more accurate than yours. He saw it as it happened in both cases. You have only seen one side. The world knows Hitler was a great speaker and that was then only thing he was great at.

You have shown that if his opinion doesn't agree with your opinion you find it necessary to label him as a right wing tool. You are the one that is too stupid to bother with.

And Hitler didn't just use rhetorical fear either. He used blunt force to enforce his bloody policies.

Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2008-02-15 12:49 PM | Reply |

And that reminds you of....?

You have shown that if his opinion doesn't agree with your opinion you find it necessary to label him as a right wing tool. You are the one that is too stupid to bother with.

So is he a righty? Don't make us guess!

Winston Churchill was able to whip up crowds through his speeches, too, so does that mean that Obama is Churchillian?

In any case, American politicians don't write their own speeches (which could be one reason why they're so incredibly bland and repetitive). The fact that they could inspire anyone to cheer is merely a sad commentary on the audience, not the speaker.

Now, God bless you and this grate nation of Amerika.

"...a comparison between a person or group to Hitler and the Nazis."
Posted by Bowa


Hitler & The Nazis - sounds like a punk band.

At my high school there was a band called KKK & The Imperial Wizards.

It was a group of black dudes, playing all kinda FUNK.

HAHAHA..Churchill never "whipped" up anyone. If you remember your history (But , I guess they only teach now That Columbus was some kind of Mass Murderer and the founding fathers were just racist slave holders)His speeches in his second term, when Britain Knew that the leftie they had was not gonna win any war, gave inspirational speeches to rally a population whose cities were being bombed day in an day out. I believe there is a big difference between a Liberal who spouts flowery platitudes while promising free everything and A real leader trying to rally a demoralized population..PLEASE, never compare Democrats to any kind of real leader..These are the same bunch who kept crying "get our troops out of Vietnam, and then when we did...They SPIT on them..Lousy Lefties

Hitler has been called the greatest orator in German history.

Hitler's style of oratory has often been said to have the effect of being "mezmerizing" on those who gathered to hear him speak. Although the style of speaking is completely different, the same effect on the audience -- mezmerizing -has been said about speeches given by Obama. Any comparison of Obama to Hitler ends there.

Hitler did some horrible things, but as a leader, I do not know many individuals that were more effective leaders than Hitler in all of mankind.

Would he have been able to 'accomplish' any of the things credited to him if he wasn't a great leader?

No the comparisons do not end, Obama and Hitler for gun confiscation, Obama and Hitler for Goverment takeover of Healthcare, taking private company profits. I believe they are more alike than you care to believe. I also Believe Obama could convince quit a few weak-minded libs to don black uniforms and become the 'Love" or "Tolerence" police. Don't say anything against the "protected class" you might disappear and end up in a "re-education " camp or a "rehabilitation" center or just disappear

"No the comparisons do not end, Obama and Hitler for gun confiscation, Obama and Hitler for Goverment takeover of Healthcare, taking private company profits. I believe they are more alike than you care to believe. I also Believe Obama...."

Not to mention that Obama, like Hitler, only has one ball. True.

I don't get it. Were the v2 rockets fueled with coal?

I hear that Jesus could give a pretty good speech....does he remind any of y'all of Hitler???

BTW, KBM when you don't make it clear about the context of a statement comparing Obama to Hilter what the hell do you expect? Any normal person would consider such a comparison to be insulting and the person making such a comparison would be considered to be pretty nasty so don't blame me for getting the wrong impression about your dad. Make yourself more clear if you are going to bring up Hitler and Obama in the same sentence.
That said, I'm sorry I insulted your dad, I obviously misunderstood your statement.

If you want a comparison with Hitler perhaps we should think of someone who ordered an invasion of a country that never attacked his own country.

DANNI, Your an Idiot, How many times on here did you compare Bush to Hitler...Now, All of a sudden "Any thinking person would never make that comparison" someone should B***slap you


If you want a comparison with Hitler perhaps we should think of someone who ordered an invasion of a country that never attacked his own country.
Posted by danni


A more correct comparison would be if said "someone" invaded all his nearest neighbors in a true Hitlerian grab for everything.

"DANNI, Your an Idiot"

Self-retorting retort.

Hans

"If you want a comparison with Hitler perhaps we should think of someone who ordered an invasion of a country that never attacked his own country."

James K. Polk and Mexico, right? Did I guess it? No? Oh, wait, JFK and Vietnam? Right? Jimmy Carter and Iran? No? Help me out here.

Oh wait, nevermind, it's Danni. All his riddles have the same answer: Bush.

Knock knock. Who's there? Danni. And Bush.

"If you want a comparison with Hitler perhaps we should think of someone who ordered an invasion of a country that never attacked his own country."

James K. Polk and Mexico, right? Did I guess it? No? Oh, wait, JFK and Vietnam? Right? Jimmy Carter and Iran? No? Help me out here.

Oh wait, nevermind, it's Danni. All his riddles have the same answer: Bush.

Knock knock. Who's there? Danni. And Bush.

I know there are all ages of posters on here.
In case you're interested from a historical viewpoint and some of you have never viewed any of Hitler's speeches on the History channel, or see them on film in your school history classes, here is one of his speeches taped on youtube. It was Hitler's first speech after elected Chancellor.

I don't have a clue as to what he is saying as it's all in German but you will see his style of oratory that used to whip the crowds into a frenzy. He was an arrogant, toady-looking little man but apparently knew how to use the spoken word to his advantage. But how Hitler managed to sway the entire German nation over into agreeing with his sick ideas and be willing to go to war against the rest of the world I'll never know.


HITLER SPEECH

don't have a clue as to what he is saying as it's all in German...

Whoops -- just noticed were are subtitles in English.

"If you want a comparison with Hitler perhaps we should think of someone who ordered an invasion of a country that never attacked his own country.

Posted by danni"


A more correct comparison would be if said "someone" invaded all his nearest neighbors in a true Hitlerian grab for everything.

Posted by MrFair at 2008-02-15 02:58 PM |


Just give him time. If Bush hadn't made such a God-awful mess out of his
invasion of Iraq we would have been in Iran by now.

Hillbillyjihad, you've got to be kidding or... how shall I put this... willingly uninformed. Hitler was all for arming Germany illegally (like Bush 2), he was pro-corporation (also like Bush 2), engaged in wars of aggression (like Bush 2), created a private army accountable to no one but himself (who's hired an army for hire?), and declared past treaties and even his constitution irrelevant (do I have to say it?).

Obama has done none of this.

As for my reference to Winnie, he was whipping up fervor with the speeches he wrote before England was attacked. Want proof?

The famous speech that ends with "Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."

That speech was made on June 06, 1940 after the greatest British military loss since Afghanistan. Germany didn't start bombing England until over a month later. Of course your knowledge of this part of the war may be fuzzy as your country was still appeasing the Nazi's while the rest of us fought and died to keep you safe.

Churchill wasn't a populist leader. Chamberlain was still the preferred leader in the House. Churchill was the old war horse they trotted out of the back benches. But it became clear to the British people that he was the right person at the right time.

My information comes from The Churchill Centre and from Memoirs of the Second World War, by Winston Churchill (a great book, I recommend it to anyone who is interested in WW2, Winie, or history). Where does your information come from?

As for this myth of soldiers being spat upon after they left Vietnam, it never happened. Somehow, though, it's become accepted as fact, like the first American flag being sewn by Betsy Ross. Of course I'm sure you can provide me with some actual facts that both of these events actually took place so I'll just wait here.

"As for my reference to Winnie, he was whipping up fervor with the speeches he wrote before England was attacked."

If I have a vote for Man of the Twentieth Century, I cast it for Churchill.

"As for this myth of soldiers being spat upon after they left Vietnam, it never happened."

Speaking from personal experience, I didn't get spat on but my car did as I was exiting Moffett Field in 1970. There was a demonstration just outside the gate...bunch o' folks needing a bath all upset about the war and lettuce or grapes or something.

Nazism - The term "National Socialism" derives from this citizen-nation relationship, whereby the term socialism is invoked and is meant to be realized through the common duty of the individuals to the German people; all actions are to be in service of the Reich. The Nazis stated that their goal was to bring forth a nation-state as the locus and embodiment of the people's collective will, bound by the Volksgemeinschaft, as both an ideal and an operating instrument. In comparison, traditional socialist ideologies oppose the idea of nations.

The Night of the Broken Glass (Kristallnacht)the infamous Nazi rampage against Germany's Jewstook place in November 1938. It was preceded by the confiscation of firearms from the Jewish victims. On Nov. 8, The New York Times reported from Berlin, "Berlin Police Head Announces 'Disarming' of Jews," explaining:


After invading, Nazis used pre-war lists of gun owners to confiscate firearms and many gun owners simply disappeared. Following confiscation, the Nazis were free to wreak their evil on the disarmed populace, such as on these helpless Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto.

"The Berlin Police President, Count Wolf Heinrich von Helldorf, announced that as a result of a police activity in the last few weeks the entire Jewish population of Berlin had been 'disarmed' with the confiscation of 2,569 hand weapons, 1,702 firearms and 20,000 rounds of ammunition. Any Jews still found in possession of weapons without valid licenses are threatened with the severest punishment."2

www.xmission.com

Lefties, Once again trying to re-write history to make Nazi's seem more like republicans than whom they really resemble...DEMOCRATS

Sidenote to CalifChris: Hitler didn't convince all of Germany to go along with him. He never got more than about 44% of the vote. His power base was centered in Bavaria - at the time the, well, how should I put it kindly, the relatively uneducated and backwards part of Germany. He gained control of the country through political maneuvering.

Once he cemented himself as dictator for life there wasn't much the rest of Germany could do. There was a resistance movement in Germany but they tend to be overshadowed by the evils of the Nazi's.

Oh, and it's strange that a right wing host would compare a liberal to Hitler. Hitler was against liberalism, communism and socialism. In all respects, Adolf was a right-winger. (this wasn't directed to you, CalifChris, or really anyone else. It's just a musing.)


Description: The author focuses on the main Nazi work creation programs like motorization, Autobahn, emergency relief, and rearmament. He stresses on the fact that most work creation from the period 1933-1936 was not a result of rearmament rather a fierce attack on employment through some of the methods mentioned above. In addition, the growing control of the Nazi party over all aspects of the economy is clearly identified in every chapter as this control grows. The book is loaded with information.
Professor Silverman argues, as a result of impressive research in Nazi archives, that it was work creation programs that account for this "miracle" and it was the 4-year Plan announced in 1936 that represented an emphasis on autarky and arms and a seller's market. Plans called for motorization and the famous autobahns. It is natural to compare Hitler's achievements with FDR's New Deal. Strangely Silverman hardly mention the USSR as a source of ideas in the Hitler years, though the 4-year Plan itself was inspired by the Soviet FYP, the second of which was being completed by the time Goebbels began administering the German equivalent. Earlier (February,1935) Soviet-type "work books" necessary for employment were introduced.


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Hitler was named "Man of the Year" in 1938 by Time Magazine. They noted Hitler's anti-capitalistic economic policies:

"Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism."

(Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.)


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"Once again trying to re-write history to make Nazi's seem more like republicans than whom they really resemble...DEMOCRATS"

Self-retorting retort.

Hans

Generico

You must be one of those "New" education people, where everyone gets a good grade and no one fails. Once again, Lefties will re-wrtie history until it fits their purpose..Are you sure you're not a tenured professor somewhere

"Lefties will re-wrtie history until it fits their purpose..."

Self-retorting retort.

Hans

Justgettingalong, maybe it was the car you were driving... ;-)

I'm sorry to hear about that, I'm sure that you realize that this wasn't liberalism in action but a small group of whacked out nutjobs - much like the swiftboaters but smellier.

The soldiers who were fighting in Vietnam came from democratic families as well as republican ones. the people who cared for the veterans came from both sides of the political fence, did they not? The presidents who kept men there were from both sides of the political fence, too.

If anything can be said about Vietnam then it would be that people from both sides of the political spectrum were for it, and against it.

"Lefties, Once again trying to re-write history to make Nazi's seem more like republicans than whom they really resemble...DEMOCRATS""

Democrats like Prescott Bush???

Just give him time. If Bush hadn't made such a God-awful mess out of his
invasion of Iraq we would have been in Iran by now.
Posted by CalifChris


Chris - try to follow. When I said "invaded all his nearest neighbors in a true Hitlerian grab for everything" I didn't envision Iran as a real close neighbor of the US. Admittedly, a lot of Mexicans could pass for Iranian and there are lots of actual Iranians in Canada, but - well - you get the picture I hope.

I dare anyone to point out one RIGHT WING dictatorship in the last 300 years, They are always lefties that start with soaring, flowery rhetoric
Nazism (DNC) Marxism (DNC) Socialism(DNC) Communism(DNC) Totalitarinism(DNC)...All freedom gone, guns confiscated, Business confiscated, and the leaders, living high on the hog while all us working people suffer

Democrats like Prescott Bush???
Posted by danni


Same era, different guy - Danni - what about that famous Democrat who created the closest thing to concentration camps America has ever seen? Executive Order 9066 ring a bell??

Hillbillyjihad, you know that Hitler was leading his political party in 1921, don't you? By the time Time named him man of the year he was already a dictator. It took him over a decade to get there, during which time he was a good friend of business. He was firmly a right wing politician. His dictatorial actions and his betrayal of the trust corporations put in him took place long after he seized power.

The Time magazine article is useless when it comes to the history of Adolph and his party. By then Europe was already at the brink of war and Japan had already started fighting.

I still don't understand how you figure he was a liberal, though. It seems to defy logic and history. Hitler, himself, railed against liberalism and communism. How then can you say he was a liberal? The article seems to cover a period of time when the dictatorship of Hitler was already firmly established. That's not to helpful when you consider that Adolph never campaigned that he was looking to become a dictator. He (and his party) were friends of big business and were cultural and social conservatives. They blamed the state of Germany on outside forces rather than their own actions and worked hard to set up scapegoats. The only US party that's done and doing that are the Republicans.

Also, could you provide a source for your information? My old-school education is grounded on facts and you're just providing abstracts without giving any sources. If you're just looking at online sources, then consider this one:
www.politicalcompass.org
It will show you graphically that Hitler was, indeed, a right winger.

Hillbillyjihad, how about Pinochet?

Hitler went to Jail and didn't get back to the Nazi Party until 1925, and Hitler being in Charge of the NAZI PARTY when it had no power, does not count, He didn't even gain any prominence til 1930, then Hindenburg made him Chancellor in 1933. About being right-wing..Graphically? Are you kidding..What did he do, what did he take away. I don't want to see some Lib professors graph on what Hitler might have been..Read some books that were written before the NEA gained control of our schools and now the only thing worth teaching is how to be nice to HOMO's,

Hitler also silenced speech from opposition, sounds like thee fairness doctrine to me, and Leftie radio.. "you can't say that, it isn't PC"

Okay, I will give you Pinochet..He was a strong man and a rightie..

Good. If you can admit you were wrong about not all dictatorships being left-wing then there's hope you can be deprogrammed from that Trinity College propaganda you seem to have accepted as truth.

Hitler silencing free speech sounds more like Bush's regime creating fenced-in free speech zones and his gov't's cautioning Americans that they should watch what they say. Liberalism is all about free speech. It also says that if you say it then you have to accept responsibility for what you say. If you yell "fire" in a crowded theatre when there isn't one then that's not free speech but inciting panic.

If I were to say Ronald Reagan was a cross-dressing child molester who beat old ladies then I could be sued for defamation if it weren't true. Of course, now that he's dead, he no longer has any rights so I can say whatever the heck I want to about him.

Also, I don't know who these NEA people are. I didn't go to school in your country (thank god). Did they seize control of your educational system in some schoolhouse putsch or are you just scapegoating them because the facts they teach offend you personally? You know Pol Pot targeted intellectuals because he feared that they could undermine his regime. Luckily, though, you should be exempt from such violence when your country goes fascist.

Bottom line: Obama should be NOT compared to Hitler. You can't truthfully compare any American president or candidate to Hitler. This Fox guy went over the line. What an asswipe.

Bottom line: Obama should be NOT compared to Hitler. You can't truthfully compare any American president or candidate to Hitler. This Fox guy went over the line. What an asswipe.

Mrfair,I agree that "You can't truthfully compare any American president or candidate to Hitler" but exactly what "line" did this professional pundit paid to give his opinion cross? And what do you think should be done with him?

If he was employed in a journalist capacity paid to be an objective reporter, editor or producer -- then I would say he should get fired, but he's not. So I say let him and all the other talking heads talk -- on right or left -- and if you really find something offensive you don't have to listen, or you can write to the advertisers of the show -- organize a boycott or picket outside the station, etc. etc.

What is most disturbing is not that this host on talk radio was such an "asswipe", but that there are many people who would like to see the government intervene and censor him and the station under some Orwellian "hate speech" code.

Almost all speech could have been described as "hate speech" at one time or the other by some person or group -- which is why it is so important that the 1st amendment protect the free speech right of the asswipes of the worl and their employers.





No wait I can see it now...

The resemblance is so clear now that you explain it that way HillBilly!

Gosh, why could not I see it before.

Obama is Black and Hitler was white.

Obama wants peace and does not like War...but Hitler believed in Total War...World War.

Obama believes in diversity and opportunity for all and Hilter believed in racial purity and opportunity for the Aryan race.


yes! oh, thank YOU Hillybilly how could I have fallen for such rubish... he must have had me under a spell!

you have really opened my eyes now...Hillbilly you are so smart!

my hero...

The Liberal credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business.

Sure sounds like the Dems...

Hitler loved Darwinism too--he wanted to hurry the process by killing off 6 million Jews and other races. He didn't want to wait for natural selection.


Comparing Obama to Hitler though was a cheap shot.

They don't sound anything alike for that matter.


Murphy

I thought it was a stroke of brilliance.."Obama wants diversity"..What the hell does that mean?. Does that mean diverstiy of thought, of experience, of religion or diversity of color of skin as long as you goosestep to his beat..What a crock 'Diversity " means I have a huge selection of handguns to choose from. Obama wants peace, Again, Just like all you lefties, you don't want to fight for anythiing..cowards, you are the types that are marched off to gas chambers crying all the way..

And as always "Arise my Hillbilly Brotheren...for the Jihad is upon us"

Almost all speech could have been described as "hate speech" at one time or the other by some person or group -- which is why it is so important that the 1st amendment protect the free speech right of the asswipes of the worl and their employers.
Posted by Bowa


Bowa - mainly it's the Hitler reference that just fries me. I hate it and I can't stand to see it used against any elected American. It's simply wrong - whether it's aimed against GWB or Obama or FDR or Nixon.

danni: Let me make myself perfectly clear, Bush is not Hitler. Hitler was evil but he wasn't stupid.

Also Hitler was elected legitimately.

This Hitler thing from the fine fundo-fascists at Faux NoiZe is just the current anti-Obama meme being spun by all levels of the corporate lapdog MSM taken to the extreme.

Mostly it's just a bunch of total weenies trying to make Obama supporters look like a cult. Joe the Schmo Klein from Time ragazeen sez "Obamaphilia has gotten creepy". David "Babblin'" Brook of the NYTs compares Obama supporters to Hare Krishnas. Jake Tapper ABC's senior correspondent on his blog PoliticalPunch compares Obama supporters to members of the Manson clan.

In short, the pussy assed pseudo pundits of the MSM are horribly afraid of Obama's populist appeal. The script was already written. Hillary was suppposed to be the presumptive nominee by this point with her 4 corners strategy but sommat happened along the way (other than when the Shrill one Guilianied her own campaign).

Hope happened.

Having won 8 in a row. Dems having outnumbered GOPhers 2 to 1 in the primaries thus far. Obamamentum is sweeping the nation. Superdelegates, already on the record as being for Hil, have thrown off the shackles of inevitability and are now changing their vote to "undecided" or flat out for Obama.

Hill is placing her remaining hopes on TX, PA and OH. Obama was behind Hill in Texas by double digits on Jan 31 according to Rasmussen. This morning the polls sjow alternately that that's slipped yo single digits, some polls show him ahead. Hill's inevitability with the Hispanic vote is also in doubt. Having fired her Mexican American Campaign manager who she was robo-calling en espagnol boasting about having certainly played a part there.

She's stolen every plank from Obama's platform she can think of. She changed her campaign slogan when she saw the traction Obama was getting talking about change. Her and McCain both look like a pair of hopelessly old school pols with their pandering, cynical politics and dirty tricks in comparison to Obama's uplifting, hard fought but clean campaign.

McCain is a joke.
Hillary is the past.
Obama is the future.

Hopemongers of the World. Unite and Take Over.

08ama '08.

Be Well.

/Yeah, biatches Spud's back. Will blogworld evar be safe?

Hi Rex!

Dethspud- Get that disgusting barancle removed. It looks PWZ ish. wb.

Doesn't Fox news know that they are the ones that are supposed to be compared to Hitler?

Ummmmmm....boy, I'm trying to think of something witty to say to shoot that down, but the comment is so stupid it shoots itself down.

I do find it interesting how offended some are by the message of hope. Such cynics we've become.

May I ask where you've been the past 30 years? We hear the same exact messge of hope every time we have a presidential primary and election.

Just like we hear about healthcare, taxes, and eduation. Have you ever seen any of it improve?

Just like we hear about healthcare, taxes, and eduation. Have you ever seen any of it improve?

Posted by everlong

And you think No-Bama will improve anything?...people are really stupid. If he wins and then there is something on the world stage that demands a leader with balls and experience, Barry will take a pass on it, like he does everything else. He has NO PLAN for anything.

Hey! I see DethPup is back from Canadian isolation telling U.S. citizens how to vote and all. (His little friends here probably do as he says.) I hope he's a little humble and that he's given up all that third person cutsie stuff. I wonder if he knows that the smarter-than-a-whip Beefalo_Boob has stolen his style. I guess that's appropriate, they're two peas in a pod anyway. SpudButt can be entertaining at times though, when he's not just plain ol' nauseating. If bullshit was a snowflake, he'd be a walking blizzard...LOL.

demands a leader with balls and experience, Barry will take a pass on it, like he does everything else. He has NO PLAN for anything.

Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-02-16 07:40 AM | Reply

And I take it You think Hillary has the Balls necessary?? come on She has to have Bill do Her heavy lifting for Her. We aren't talking about moving the Furniture either.

Larry Mohr

And I take it You think Hillary has the Balls necessary??

I think she does. All she has to do is take them off her chin and hurl them at people.

Cheers,
Walt

ROFLMMFAO

Larry Mohr

hey spudley!

everybody knows mr. hussein obama is more marxist than nazi...geez - getchur poop in a group.

yeah Spud! Welcome back!

Blogworld has someone who can think beyond the realm of five year olds again!

HillBilly come here little one and let me explain to you about diversity. You see long ago white men used to keep black men as their slaves... I know! I know! it seem so absurd to us now but its true!

But, even our Founding Fathers knew that we humans were all Created Equal and that this would not stand. And that we humans, black, white, pink, yellow, male, female and even those among us unsure of our sexual orientation (like YOU HillBilly!) we are all endowed with certain inalienable rights..Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. But diversity is more that that. It is all of us no matter our race or gender coming together sharing our hopes and dreams and learning from each other. It is the Synergy of US. ...heh... YES WE CAN!

Even Hillary is beginning to understand the power of Unity and Hope. Did you hear her actually quote the placard from the Statue of Liberty?

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.


Very brave of her in this time of Terror and "lets kill everyone not like us"....and "lets build a WALL".

No let's TEAR DOWN THE WALL! (thank you Pink Floyd)

I know that in that little shriveled up heart of yours there Hillbilly you would rather that

"The Statue of Liberty no longer say, "Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses." In your mind She's got a baseball bat and yelling, "You want a piece of me?"" (thanks Robin Williams)

But, some of us really do have a Dream. It is a Dream that the Ship of State that is America will right itself and get back on course. Back to the Universe we are Supposed to be in. We can escape BushWorld but it will not be easy.

We need a strong and Intelligent leader one who can Unite us for the arduous task and journey ahead.

And Obama can be that leader. A black man has come to lead us from the wilderness!

That is your diversity lesson for today Hillbilly.

Good luck with your diversity...its not just a good idea...its the LAW!
unpan1.un.org

www.opm.gov


I returned to look at this censored thread, which seems to confuse the use of obscenity, scatology, and profanity with freedom of thought and exchange of ideas, and was prepared to leave, when I read the preceding "Donnerboy" post (donnerboy at 2008-02-16 11:34 AM) endorsing Mr. Obama as a "uniter."

That he envisions a man who has been engaged in divisive politics as a "uniter" seems due to confusion, the projection of his ideas despite the contrary reality.

After graduation from law school, Mr. Obama secured a job as a "community activist" of the neo-Alinsky stripe, whose tactics involved the promotion of racial and class warfare as a means of agitating the black community. Their thrust was not to "create" wealth or secure skills which enabled them to participate in positive activity, but to "demand" transfer of assets from those who possessed them to the favored minority groups, and to threaten disruption of civil activities as the alternative. Uniter indeed.

Mr. Obama has declared that the pastor of his "Afrocentric" church, who is an alleged black racist, and the church which also has been alleged to espouse black racist ideas, is his "mentor." Mr. Obama's church supported this view of the church as "black racist" by awarding the equivalent of its "Man of the Year" award for 2007 to the leader of the universally acknowledged black racist Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan.

I wonder how much of a uniter a white political figure would be considered to be if he declared that his pastor, the leader of a white racist church that awarded its Man of the Year award to Grand Kleagle of the Klu Klux Klan or a white separatist White Identity Movement group, was his mentor.

Mr. Obama's long-term affiliation with this church and support of its activities would preclude any attempt to distance himself from identification with its policies at this time as a transparent political ploy.

Recall the treatment of Mr. Trent Lott for his salute to an old Senator. Mr. Lott was ousted from his leadership position, and eventually drummed out of the Senate. How much more odious is Mr. Obama's affiliation. It does seem that racism is rampant in America, when black people are not held accountable for their conduct on the same standard as white people are. Black people are not even accorded the dignity to be sufficiently responsible to merit ostracism for blatant racism. But that waiver seems to reflect a pervasive mentality among some segments of our population.

Do you really think that a person with the overt black racist blackground and activism promoting racial conflict as a political tool, is a "uniter?" Really? What are the justifications and aplogetics for Mr. Obama's affiliations and conduct? Mr. Obama's actions certainly are related to his fitness for office.

The Republicans are salivating. Mrs Clinton has remained silent so as not to alienate the black constituency. I can envision some campaign ads featuring "Mr. Obama, his pastor, and Mr. Farrakhan," and the effect that the exposure of this reality will have on the electorate.

The Republicans are salivating. Mrs Clinton has remained silent so as not to alienate the black constituency. I can envision some campaign ads featuring "Mr. Obama, his pastor, and Mr. Farrakhan," and the effect that the exposure of this reality will have on the electorate.

Posted by Johnson



In the first few lines I knew it was You Can Call Me Johnson. So I skipped to the punchline.

What a buffoon.

It seems apparent that America has had its fill of the hateful slurs and drooling dogs of both parties. The pundits are aghast or elated depending on their partisan sympathies, yet they all acknowledge that America is tuned in. Maybe not enough, but 75% of the country is tired of the stink in Washington DC.

Americans are always willing to try a new path, it's the Tory progeny that cower in the past.

"That said, I'm sorry I insulted your dad, I obviously misunderstood your statement."

Thanks

Ozarkaggie thinks that the affiliation should be ignored? Concealed? Is of no moment? You apparently are a supporter of selective racism. Black racism is permissible. White racism is not permissible. Is that your stance? The evidence demonstrates that Mr. Obama is connected to black racist ideology. Does that make him a fit leader for all Americans?

Populists advocating a utopian ideal, which is imaginary, are the perperators of histories worst tragedies. They have a monopoly on "goodness," so there are no limitations to what is justified in pursuit of their goals. All of the utopians, Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, and even those seeking an Islamic utopia are "good."

You lefties are aware that American leftists early on endorsed the fascists and Nazis are fostering the socialist ideal, and W.E.B. DuBois even was a defender of Hitler's policies in Nazi Germany after he began the religious persecution. The "virtue" of the left is unbelievable.

Johnson

Remember Donnerboy is a weak-minded, follower looking for someone to lead him "out of the wilderness" because when he was a small child in the "hippy commune" his parents were to busy smoking pot then to teach him how to lead himself out of the wilderness, I love people who think "A false Prophet" is going to unite people, Only indiviuals can change themselves. he has this pie in the sky dream. Rememeber fascism doesn't always come int the form of a jack-booted uniform. forcing diversity and hugs is still fascism if you don't want a hug.

And thanks for reminding me how the governement has been taken over by "hugging" fascist" do you know how much money is wasted ont that "diversity crap" A civilization that needs "diversity traing and hate crime laws" is not a civilization. If a person is going to be a racist, he is going to be a racist..I know you can't wait to set up your "Re-eduction centers" for those who don't "Love" like you,and send the "love" police to collect them..You can put lipstick and a bow on a fascist pig, but it is still a fascist pig

Thanks for saying the truth...I am a black man who hates I mean hates Obama and Hillary. Also can not stand McCain..
Thanks for the truth...long live FOX.
MSNBC sucks

I read and spoke with someone about Keith Oldermans' gay scandal about to break in 2-3 weeks.
I am so happy this idiot is coming to an end..
What and embarassing moment for him and MSNBC

And you think No-Bama will improve anything?...people are really stupid. If he wins and then there is something on the world stage that demands a leader with balls and experience, Barry will take a pass on it, like he does everything else. He has NO PLAN for anything.

Well, maybe I didn't make myself clear. I was referring to any candidate. And for the record, I can't stand the thought that Obama even has a chance. Hillary either.

If he wins and then there is something on the world stage that demands a leader with balls and experience, Barry will take a pass on it, like he does everything else. He has NO PLAN for anything.

Coupla things here.

First, he likes to be called Barack now.

Barry was cool in High School but he's all grown up now and maybe you should think of doing the same thing.

Second, Barack Obama is not only a hopemonger, he's also a policy wonk extrodinaire. Barack Obama has a detailed plan for EVERYTHING. Stop listening to Fox News. It's not news, it's propaganda. It's not even particularily good propaganda at that. It's just a pack of poorly thought out lies usually told to you by an empty headed NILF.

Third, what's yer plan Einstein?

Shrillary? McInsane?
The Christo-Fascist Huckaberry Houndawg?
Mittens the Magical Underwear wearin' Romulan?
Zombie Reagan? Robo-Nixon?

HA! Don't make me laff in yer face.

Again.

Be Well.

HA! Don't make me laff in yer face.


Would that be before or after you fart in his general direction?

Welcome back Spud.

As for me, Just leave me alone, Stop taking my money. except for police (who are not fascist, But keep our society from decending into chaos), A military (who are not fascist, But keep my counrty soveriegn and safe) Fire department and roads. If you read the constitution, It has a very limited role for the federal goverment..What happened..Hugging Fascist..."Just give us all the power and do as we say and we will take care of you..Now , a group hug" This country is doomed.
An has anyone heard of the "Global Poverty tax" This is a new Democrat Idea, to levy a tax on all of us to "help fight global poverty" and guess who it is given to ..Our Beloved UN.."watch out ..or we wull pass a non-binding resolution on your ass"..So Vote Democrat and I will see you in the soup line..

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