Torture till to get a confession. Then execute based on that confession. Good old fashion American justice.

I guess one of them must have carried Osama bin Laden's luggage at some point in time.

Seeing that dr lefties feel 911 was an inside job, who could give a sh!t what you think about these assclowns getting the death sentence.

I say put them on the fast lane there!!!!!

Right DAVE!

Maybe the military should send their brains to the University of Miami to see if there's anything "different" in there.

I think it very interesting that it took 13 years for the trials in Bosnia to take place for genocide. I do believe they sought the death sentence for those criminals.

Just imagine that!!!???!!! Democratic prosecutors (or those hired by the Democratic administration) sought the DEATH PENALTY for these murderers ....

Something that the puling poltroons of progressiveness FORBID any other political philosophy from conducting ... JUST THE PISSANT COWARDS OF THE LEFT CAN CALL FOR THE DEATH PENALTY!

You world class hypocrites!

TADOWE

Kudos!

You ran out the clock on that third dump.

And the problem is what?

puling poltroons of progressiveness



Poetry.

As is so often the case, creativity seems to reside among the insane.

many problems come but the fact that america is moving towards trying these scumbags is a wonderful thing.

the residue of torture will taint the justice but justice is required here.

these 6 appear to be the scum of the al queda scum

KSM and Khalid bin al shit head or whatever his name were significant players in 9/11.

death is too good for em IMO, let em rot in a small cell in some dank prison.

unfortunately the actions of the bush administration has made a difficult situation (trying these unique scum) much more difficult

Midi grasps for the right term, "Poetry ... As is so often the case, creativity seems to reside among the insane."

Alliteration ... not "poetry" ...

... and I would rather be crazy than I would to be as ignorant of words as you seemingly are ...

... but thanks for ignoring the actual subject of the thread and the effort to turn it into one you are so obsessed by ...

Hmmm. Do you have any evidence that torture was used? Or not?
I thought all along that the point was to get these guys to trial. Now that they are doing so, you're already gearing up to toss their convictions on some torture fantasies you have?
How typical.

However, ABC News was told that at least three CIA officers declined to be trained in the techniques before a cadre of 14 were selected to use them on a dozen top al Qaeda suspects in order to obtain critical information. In at least one instance, ABC News was told that the techniques led to questionable information aimed at pleasing the interrogators and that this information had a significant impact on U.S. actions in Iraq.

According to CIA sources, Ibn al Shaykh al Libbi, after two weeks of enhanced interrogation, made statements that were designed to tell the interrogators what they wanted to hear. Sources say Al Libbi had been subjected to each of the progressively harsher techniques in turn and finally broke after being water boarded and then left to stand naked in his cold cell overnight where he was doused with cold water at regular intervals.

His statements became part of the basis for the Bush administration claims that Iraq trained al Qaeda members to use biochemical weapons. Sources tell ABC that it was later established that al Libbi had no knowledge of such training or weapons and fabricated the statements because he was terrified of further harsh treatment.




for those incapable of understanding what they read:

TORTURE HAS LEAD TO THE DEATHS OF 3960 American Soldiers

I thought all along that the point was to get these guys to trial.


no the point all along was justice,

you dumbass

Khalid Sheik Mohammed, won the admiration of interrogators when he was able to last between two and two-and-a-half minutes before begging to confess.

Posted by truthhurts at 2008-02-11 11:04 AM | Reply

The point of interrogation is to gain information quickly, while it's still fresh and usefull. Sounds like waterboarding is fast, cheap and effective. And it causes no real harm. Too bad it takes so much longer to get the trial going.

You know, you could've fooled me. I've been on the DR for a couple of years now, and all I heard was that these guys have a Constitutional right to a fair trial. Never mind that they're not American citizens, so they've no Constitional rights to anything--but that's an argument that's gone back and forth since I've shown up here--now you're saying, no, it has nothing to do with trials, but justice?

Okay, Truthy. Just how are you going to get justice without a trial? Or do you think justice would be just letting them go?

Just curious. Sorry I'm not as smart as you.

And it causes no real harm.


except the deaths of 3960 american soldiers

Either declare them enemy combatants subject to the rules of war or terrorists subject to criminal process. Which ever way they are classified there are established methods of handling.

Pubic Patch doesn't have any right to treat these prisoners as his personal whipping boys.

They may be and most likely are guilty as hell and due for the big one. But not by kangaroo court.

Or when it is Crotch Covers turn at trail, he should face the same style of questioning and sentencing.

"except the deaths of 3960 american soldiers"

How did waterboarding cause that?

I've been on the DR for a couple of years now, and all I heard was that these guys have a Constitutional right to a fair trial. Never mind that they're not American citizens, so they've no Constitional rights to anything--but that's an argument that's gone back and forth since I've shown up here--now you're saying, no, it has nothing to do with trials, but justice?



that is because you only hear what you want to hear.

these alledged scum are entitled to basic human rights. these basic human rights should include not being tortured and held indefinitely at the whim of one human being based on double secret intelligence.

I acknowledge the special circumstances we are dealing with vis a vis AQ, but we had special circumstances at teh end of WW 2 and found a way to find justice.

Shouldn't they have the trial BEFORE the execution?

According to CIA sources, Ibn al Shaykh al Libbi, after two weeks of enhanced interrogation, made statements that were designed to tell the interrogators what they wanted to hear. Sources say Al Libbi had been subjected to each of the progressively harsher techniques in turn and finally broke after being water boarded and then left to stand naked in his cold cell overnight where he was doused with cold water at regular intervals.

His statements became part of the basis for the Bush administration claims that Iraq trained al Qaeda members to use biochemical weapons. Sources tell ABC that it was later established that al Libbi had no knowledge of such training or weapons and fabricated the statements because he was terrified of further harsh treatment.


Tenet says to Bush Slam Dunk
Powell says to the UN Iraq is teaching AQ how to use WMD.

pants pissers like RIR and Rob, etal say AHHHHHHHH

Bush invades Iraq

to date 3960 american soldiers have died in Iraq

if libby wasnt waterboarded, link between Iraq and AQ is significantly lessened, disallowing a justification for invasion.

Get it?

TORTURE HAS LEAD TO THE DEATHS OF 3960 American Soldiers

Posted by truthhurts


Wrong!

Fighting a war that should have never happened

Jesus, TADOWE, was there a point, or a message in that 8:16 post? ...'cause it sure seemed to be a long-winded way to write "AAAAAAAUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHH!"

Cheney must be getting ready for another hunting trip...

Wrong!

Fighting a war that should have never happened

Posted by Eddie at


a war justified and sold based on intelligence gained from torture.

No matter how this trial turns out, The Bush Administration had to make up there own rules of law to get this done. There is no Judicial District in this Country, that would even accept this for trial based on how the information was gathered from these prisoners.

TORTURE, that how this Administration got there information, than they claim that they got good information but they can't tell the Country what that is. Rather self serving isn't it? That will be the Legacy of this Administration Torture, Incompetence, Illegal Wiretap, great job Bushie!!
God can January 20, 2009 get here soon enough.

"except the deaths of 3960 american soldiers"

How did waterboarding cause that?

Posted by JOE at 2008-02-11 11:24 AM | Reply

Come on, Joe. You know that 9/11 took place becaus the terrorists knew we'd use waterboarding in the future.

Crashing planes into buildings is just a desperate plea for love and attention. Try to listen more carefully to Truthy.

soldiers idiot, not civilians

please go back to 3rd grade and take remedial reading comprehension.

Wrong!

Fighting a war that should have never happened

Posted by Eddie at


a war justified and sold based on intelligence gained from torture.


Posted by truthhurts


Actually torture has little to do with it.

The fact that this war is unconstitutional should have caused Congress to get so outraged to the point of impeaching Bush and Cheney. It never happened.

The effect of the bitching rhetoric from the ball-less Democrats contributed more to the deaths of our guys, then the torture. However, I think that it has some effect.

The US should decide which way to take this.

If we are to be a the empire that the neocons are pushing for and who have successfully acted on, then we should step up the tactics of putting fear into those who oppose us with more brutal torture.

However, an alternative is to elect a president who will rewrite the foreign policy and take down the empire. We should ally with no one and trade with everyone.

If Hilary is elected, she will continue the neocons' quest for a world government. She will do this by admitting it does not exist.

My point is that EVERYONE is at fault. We Americans should do everything we can to stop this bullsh!t


My point

"a war justified and sold based on intelligence gained from torture."

Nope. You're making that up. The "intelligence" consisted of outdated reports, incorrect assumptions, misinterpreted photos and data and complete bullshit stories told by opportunistic anti-Saddam Iraqi exiles. But none of it had anything to do with torture. We didn't have anyone in custody who we could pretend had inside info on Saddam's weapons before the war started.

I'm don't think we should be torturing people and I'd hate to think we are training military personnel to be sadists. And it is correct to say that intelligence gained through torture is suspect. But telling fantasy stories about how torture led us into Iraq only serves to hurt the arguement against torture.

Powell says to the UN Iraq is teaching AQ how to use WMD.

pants pissers like RIR and Rob, etal say AHHHHHHHH

* * * *

Actually I was unaware that Powell said that. So my bedwetting problem must've been caused by something else. Global warming maybe? Or that grandma was going to lose her Social Security benefits? Or that I might have my home foreclosed on? Or was it gas prices? How about NSA wiretaps--was I maybe nervous that when my Al Queda pals call my house some spook at Ft Meade will be listening in?

I can't keep straight anymore what I'm supposed to be afraid of. I'm not really afraid of the Muslims, per se--they have to hijack our planes, after all--it's not like they have an air force or anything. So I have to rely on DNC talking points to get really terrified about anything.

you were unaware that the crux of the justification for the invasion of iraq was the nexus of Iraq, wmd and terrorism?

"I was unaware...."

Nope. You're making that up.


wrong


According to CIA sources, Ibn al Shaykh al Libbi, after two weeks of enhanced interrogation, made statements that were designed to tell the interrogators what they wanted to hear. Sources say Al Libbi had been subjected to each of the progressively harsher techniques in turn and finally broke after being water boarded and then left to stand naked in his cold cell overnight where he was doused with cold water at regular intervals.

speaking of 1984 and the wormhole

in his whole speech powell had 2 in audible words, one of which is libbi's name

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wonder why that word disappears from teh official transcript?

question for you, powell's was a speech to the UN, a speech that was written, why would the WHITE HOUSE not know who the Powell is refering to in that instance?

it is not some random word in the middle of a paragraph, he is naming the source of the accusation, this clearly would have been in Powell's speech.


why?

Shouldn't they have the trial BEFORE the execution?


Posted by Monstman at 2008-02-11 11:30 AM

Hoping that's an attempt at sarcasm or some other type of witticism.

Otherwise, read the article.

> I thought all along that the point was to get these guys to trial.

> no the point all along was justice,

No the point was you bitching and moaning.
See you are never happy. Regardless of what anyone does it is never good enough for you.

What you really want to be doing is yelling at your Dad/Mom, but you don't have the balls to actually do that. So, you use society as your canvas to spread your sh*t on.
It isn't about justice. It isn't about trials. It is about you bitching and moaning. It is about your grievance theater.
It is about you being the 21st century equivalent of some "martyr" going around in a hair shirt flogging themselves and wanting people to look at you and think you are morally superior. It is about your own narcissism and issues with authority.

We see the same thing in the environmental movement, where oil isn't good enough, then nuclear isn't good enough, then hydro isn't good enough, then wind isn't good enough, then geo-thermal isn't good enough, and if solar ever became viable economically, solar wouldn't be good enough.

You don't want to actually accomplish anything. If you "win" the argument and people change, you have to move the goalposts so you can continue to complain.

It isn't about "justice" or any normal end result. It is not about the end. It is about the means. And the means are you bitching and moaning.



Oh, and BTW, alliteration is a form of poetry. It just fell out of common use when the Normans took over and replaced the earlier English/Germanic alliteration poetry with the more French rhyming poetry.

i really couldn't care less about most of the crap you guys are complainging about. these guys are responsible for flying planes into American buildings with 3000+ civilians of all races, colors and creeds. if it takes torture to get the information we need....it doesn't bother me at all. if you don't want to risk torture, get out of the terrorism business. give these fuks a trial, and if found guilty, hang them.

evil, evil, evil calm down, clean the drool from your chin, calm down son, calm down...

again READING COMPREHENSION 101

"...the fact that america is moving towards trying these scumbags is a wonderful thing..."

who wrote these words?

Rightisright
rightofcenter
truthhurts?


I understand that you cant get the concept that torture is vile and counterproductive, I understand that.

I get it, you coopt the fact that these scumbags are getting trials as somehow something you on the right have advocated forever, I get it
you always right, everyone else always wrong. clam down son, I get it.

Unfortunately objective fact is that bush etal are coming around to what I have been touting all along that justice and respect for law and basic human rights is the best response to "terrorroerorerisms"

but dont worry I still think you are an idiot.

Watch the movie "The Good Shepherd." Good torture scene in there, demonstrates how 'useful' torture can be.

IMHO, torture is barbaric and those who support it are depraved. Just MHO. Heheh.

Is there nothing that these people can do that you think would warrant the death penalty? What if they WERE responsible in some way, would it be okay then? Cracks me up that you would believe these people over your own military. You must not know anyone that serves your country honorably, if you did you probably wouldn't say such stupid things. way to go!

what are you babbling about?

it is fairly common knowledge that KSM among others was waterboarded. That is torture. so are other techniques.

I think our armed forces were directed to do it by highers up, that is where the responsibility lays.

what cracks me up is how people like you hide yourselves in the flag when it comes to our country doing the right thing.

torture is NOT american

"wrong


According to CIA sources, Ibn al Shaykh al Libbi, after two weeks of enhanced interrogation, made statements that were designed to tell the interrogators what they wanted to hear. Sources say Al Libbi had been subjected to each of the progressively harsher techniques in turn and finally broke after being water boarded and then left to stand naked in his cold cell overnight where he was doused with cold water at regular intervals."

OK, I was wrong for saying you're making stuff up. I forgot about that greaseball.

But do you really think we wouldn't have invaded Iraq without getting this guy to say this stuff? The idea that the invasion of Iraq was the result of info we gained via torture doesn't really stand up to reality. This guy was tortured into making a statement that supported a decision that had already been made. And nobody who was against the war was swayed by this "evidence".

You know, you could've fooled me. I've been on the DR for a couple of years now, and all I heard was that these guys have a Constitutional right to a fair trial. Never mind that they're not American citizens, so they've no Constitional rights to anything--but that's an argument that's gone back and forth since I've shown up here--now you're saying, no, it has nothing to do with trials, but justice?

Okay, Truthy. Just how are you going to get justice without a trial? Or do you think justice would be just letting them go?

Just curious. Sorry I'm not as smart as you.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-02-11 11:17 AM | Reply |

Textbook deflection.

How did waterboarding cause that?

Posted by JOE at 2008-02-11 11:24 AM | Reply |

Potentially thru information obtained thru waterboarding that was false.

Potentially thru inciting of further anger and hatred and mistrust in a region where we are working to build trust.

Thru the same inciting of anger and hatred, adding to the ranks of insurgents.

This guy was tortured into making a statement that supported a decision that had already been made.




and that makes the decision to start a war a war crime.

TORTURE HAS LEAD TO THE DEATHS OF 3960 American Soldiers

Posted by truthhurts

AND the re-election of many to the Halls of Congress.

Congratulations. We'll elect a new president, but we'll put fossils back in the Congress that have lived there for decades.

Change in needed, and it ain't just the White House!

"I think it very interesting that it took 13 years for the trials in Bosnia to take place for genocide. I do believe they sought the death sentence for those criminals.

Just imagine that!!!???!!! Democratic prosecutors (or those hired by the Democratic administration) sought the DEATH PENALTY for these murderers ...."

Tadowe you lying sack of shit REMF. The Hague never hands down death sentences. The death penalty is banned in Western Europe and has been for a long time.

Why argue facts when you can make up fantasies?

Say what you will hurts, but you are one of the dr left whom believes 911 was an inside job. So WHO gives two craps what you say?

Torture till to get a confession. Then execute based on that confession. Good old fashion American justice.

Posted by Species8472

OK, you win. We'll turn them loose in NYC with everything they were picked up with.

a war justified and sold based on intelligence gained from torture.

Posted by truthhurts

I think you have the horse behind the cart there.

I guess you 'loosie lefties' can't read either. It does say they will have a trial first.

The fact that this war is unconstitutional should have caused Congress to get so outraged to the point of impeaching Bush and Cheney. It never happened.

Posted by Eddie

I was under the impression that congress voted for the Iraq war before we ever went. I guess that makes it unconstitutional.

OK, you win. We'll turn them loose in NYC with everything they were picked up with.

Posted by Sniper at 2008-02-11 05:29 PM | Reply |

You do realize that in some cases that could be a 70yr old women, a butt ugly wife, and 3 ugly lil kids and some beat up no name car that was ran over with a bradley.

Sure occasionally we'd let out the guy who wanted to kill said family... but if they were all the bomb-belt packing kind this whole thing wouldn't even be an issue. They could bring these guys before a judge, show them the bomb belt, the target, and it would be a done deal and no one would have much room to bitch about anything.

Then I guess you are OK with turning them loose in central park.

Say what you will hurts, but you are one of the dr left whom believes 911 was an inside job. So WHO gives two craps what you say?

Posted by DavetheWave


you are a liar, i defy you, liar, to post anything I have ever written along this line, well other than condemning the criminal neglect in allowing it to happen.

"the criminal neglect in allowing it to happen."

Posted by truthhurts


Voter stupidity is the problem.

Somehow requiring voters to be competent is a bad thing.

One organism, one vote.

You will notice how well the bread and circuses are doing.

One brief shining moment for Armstrong in '69 and Goatman feeds a troll more disgusting than (Blackberrys are back on line in Austin.) in 2008.

What a magnificent planet.

The real engineers and perpetrators of 911,namely President Bush and the New American Century Neo Cons plus the Israeli Govt desperately need these 6 Gitmo "patsies" to take the fall for their horrendous crimes.The real truth is quickly gaining on the Bush Nazis and they feel they have to pull some kind of crooked but dramatic prosecution to deflect the blame from themselves,the real culprits!

Luckily Bush & Cheney have lots of pals (accomplices) in the Pentagon who will pull out all the perjury stops in framing and prosecuting these 6 abused and tortured souls in Gitmo - plus vigorously wave the ol'American flag while doing so!

I smell a conservative rat...no wait...my bad it's just an American election that I smell.

Folks, it's that time of the year again isn't it? Every election the bells of terror ring like Jingle Bells on December 24th. Insulars will surely get behind McCain now.

Give us a call. We can do the job up close and personal or from a distance. Americans want a reckoning.

Twin gets disappointed, "You ran out the clock on that third dump"

Are you kidding? I'm hoping for a permanent ban from this site!

None of you have the slightest clue, do you? I mean, I tell you over-and-over that I dote on your collective efforts to revile and dehumanize me -- so a ban for speech would be the cherry on top of the concerted and continuing effort to stop my comments by you petty tyrants.

I want you all to mark *ALL* my posts as 'abusive' ... please ... !

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww it's OK Taddy no harm no foul huh. hehehehehehehehe

Larry Mohr

Are you kidding? I'm hoping for a permanent ban from this site!

A normal person would just leave.

TADOWE

Are you kidding? I'm hoping for a permanent ban from this site!

None of you have the slightest clue, do you? I mean, I tell you over-and-over that I dote on your collective efforts to revile and dehumanize me -- so a ban for speech would be the cherry on top of the concerted and continuing effort to stop my comments by you petty tyrants.

I want you all to mark *ALL* my posts as 'abusive' ... please ... !


I wondered where you had gone to! I've never flag you for anything, Tadowe. I bask in your abuse.

Why just about nothing gets my juices going more at 2:00 a.m. on a slow blog than you spewing I'm a vile, treasonous, communistic anti-American slimy, lower than a snake democratic. (grin) Welcome back!

Sam gets profane, "Jesus, TADOWE, was there a point, or a message in that 8:16 post? ...'cause it sure seemed to be a long-winded way to write 'AAAAAAAUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHH!'"

I have the impression that you got the 'point'.

If not, then what use is there discussing anything with someone as dim as you appear to be, if that is the case?

Furio gets mad, "Tadowe you lying sack of shit REMF. The Hague never hands down death sentences. The death penalty is banned in Western Europe and has been for a long time."

Unreal! Clinton attempts to assassinate or kidnap a Somalian political leader ... and you get upset because US prosecutors will try Guantanamo terrorists ... and where the death penalty could (operative term "could") result in a death sentence ...

The ***POINT*** being that Democratics are only complaining about this issue because it is being conducted by a Republican administration. No effort was expended ***AT ALL*** to find out that the CIA was waterboarding Serbians and Bosnian ethnic Serbs, or search for torture in Serbian/Bosnian POW camps or national jails ... Somalians, Haitians or anyone else that Clinton, et al, were attacking during his administration.

The conclusion?

Democratics are puling hypocrites!

Here's Chris, "I wondered where you had gone to! I've never flag you for anything, Tadowe. I bask in your abuse."

My 'abuse' is generalized to Leftists and, or Democratics. When any 'abuse' is stated directly to you, it is because you have become personal in your comments to me, first. For instance, if you post a comment stating the same as you do, above with me as your subject ...

"Why just about nothing gets my juices going more at 2:00 a.m. on a slow blog than you spewing I'm a vile, treasonous, communistic anti-American slimy, lower than a snake democratic. (grin) Welcome back!"

You can't help it, Chris! You think of yourself as a Leftist and, or Democratic and obviously apply my comments to yourself, personally. As mentione, if I do so state those conclusions, vis a vis your Leftistic tendencies, to you directly -- it is because you've made your comments personal, in a previous commentary.

For example, you seem to ***always*** make negative, politically motivated comments about the Iraq war ... one of the more ***obvious*** hypocrisies of the Democratics who, when they are at war, insist on unity in defeating the common enemy of ***ALL*** the USA, and not just one party of the nation ...

Another instance that turns my stomach, both morally and in principle, is 'stacking' bodies of American citizen soldiers, in order to subvert the success of this fight against human sacrifice. I can't begin to tell you how despicable I think those who do so just happen to be!

Really, I suggest you stop responding to me, personally, Chris. Try actually discussing the points I make if you disagree, and not me as your target for personal (Democratic) destruction ....

Another instance that turns my stomach, both morally and in principle, is 'stacking' bodies of American citizen soldiers, in order to subvert the success of this fight against human sacrifice. I can't begin to tell you how despicable I think those who do so just happen to be!

"stacking bodies" huh?

What are you talking about?

Chris gets rhetorical, "'stacking bodies' huh? What are you talking about?"

Here, I've written this response, already:

I have the impression that you got the 'point'.

If not, then what use is there discussing anything with someone as dim as you appear to be, if that is the case? Posted by tadowe at 2008-02-12 05:34 AM

The shorter tad: Please mark my posts where I call specific members nazis or worse.

After getting two such dumps I will continue to whine about victimization and then leave on my own until the two dumps go away.

Then I start the whole bag of runny shit all over again. It's all about ME ME ME!

Can somebody help me out here? Haven't I been reading and hearing for YEARS how our little leftist-socialist friends have been demanding trials for terrorist prisoners in Guantanamo? Well, why do they all have a hair across their asses now that their buddies are getting trials? Just can't please 'em, I guess. Why even try?

Six Gitmo Detainees May Be Executed


Funny title. Pretty sure they're gonna need some kind of trial first.

Betcha $100 trial doesn't happen.


Just another shiny distraction.

I hope they post it on Youtube.com

Funny title. Pretty sure they're gonna need some kind of trial first.

Betcha $100 trial doesn't happen.

Posted by TedBaxter

Are3 the executions gonna happen without the trial?? I guess if Hillary getis in they will.

Bush, Brave, macho Bush: He read Pet Goat and then ran and hid in Nebraska on 9/11.

Now this big macho, "bring it on" dude is going to have those supposedly responsible for 9/11 executed.

You can be sure he goes into hiding during these executions if they come to pass.

This war tribunal is disturbing because the basis for the charges is mass murder against civilians for the Sept. 11 attack characterized as "terrorism." However, that particular charge is hard to distinguish from the U.S. dropping nuclear weapons on civilian targets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to provoke terror and surrender of Japan because of the enormous death toll of civilians in those two cities, as well as the firebombing of Dresden.

So the question is are we at war with the terrorists, in which case they have done to us what we did to Japan or Dresden -or, is this simply a criminal case against murderers. If it is simply a criminal case then why are we at war over it?

For consistency, to avoid the problems I just laid out: the 6 should simply be held as Prisoners of War. The reason that this is not being done, obviously, is that then they would be subject to the Geneva Convention which prohibits torture. That is why they are called "enemy combatants" instead of "POWs" so that the Geneva Convention could be avoided. This is because these individuals were, in fact, tortured. So, to avoid having committed war crimes of torture, the Bush Administration has decided to put the victims of torture to death. But, as I have previously pointed out: such an approach would open the U.S. up to death penalty charges for those who conspired to drop bombs on Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden under exactly the same analysis.

Boy is the Bush Administration dumb. Perhaps this is why Scalia has been so adamant about defending torture in the ticking time bomb scenario immediately after the announcing of these death penalty charges against the 6 Gitmo detainees because he realizes how stupid the reasoning is in seeking these charges -it exposes the U.S. to similar charges for Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden. In fact, Scalia seems so worried about this possibility that he is risking censure or recusal for speaking about an issue on a case that is not before him. It seems that he is trying to get the message across that charges are not necessary to protect the Bush Administration from War Crimes. But, of course, the Bush Administration is so dense that they will not understand any of this. Bush is going back to his old tested method of executing people to protect himself -just like he did when he was Governor of Texas.

All six deserve the death penalty, they EARNED it!!!

Bush, Brave, macho Bush: He read Pet Goat and then ran and hid in Nebraska on 9/11.

He actually kept his cool. Like a President should. Cameras were on him.
HIllary would have started crying if she were the Pres. at the time