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Sunday, February 10, 2008

With about 70% of precincts reporting, Barack Obama is the projected winner, leading Hillary Clinton 58% to 41%.

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Well done Maine!

Go Obama! Make Hillary cry!

Not only did Obama sweep these 4 contests, but every one of them was a landslide. Sad...for the Republicans.

Does not matter, hillary will be the nominee. Then McCain will will the general election.

Sad...for the Republicans.

Posted by Bill_OReilly at 2008-02-10 07:26 PM | Reply

Lame attempt. The landslide buried Hillary! not John McCain.

Still, I'm glad to see one more nail in the coffin of Clinton, Inc. These disgusting people need to go the way of the nasty Kennedy Clan. Build a compound someplace and pretend you are still important.

Go Obama !!!

-Sarge

"Lame attempt. The landslide buried Hillary! not John McCain."

I see you don't get it, Vernon. Not a surprise there. A Hillary nomination would be good news for George W. McCain.

A Hillary nomination would be good news for George W. McCain.

And Hillary will see to it that she gets the nomination even if she has to destroy the party in the process.

Hurray for my state!

Still, I'm glad to see one more nail in the coffin of Clinton, Inc. These disgusting people need to go the way of the nasty Kennedy Clan. Build a compound someplace and pretend you are still important.

Posted by vernon at 2008-02-10 07:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Compound? Interesting word.

It's strange that the republicans always label the kennedys as having a 'compound' yet Bush's estate is referred to as a 'ranch' as was Reagan's estate. A transparent effort to try and make themselves look like the avg person.

What would you call Bush's family estate in Maine?

Kennebunkport

It's strange that the republicans always label the kennedys as having a 'compound' yet Bush's estate is referred to as a 'ranch' as was Reagan's estate. A transparent effort to try and make themselves look like the avg person.

Republicans came up the with the label compound? I didn't know that. do you have anything to back that up?

"As Maine goes, so goes the nation" ...

...is a phrase that at one time was in wide currency in United States politics. The phrase described Maine's reputation as a bellwether state for presidential elections. Specifically, Maine's September election of a governor predicted the party outcome of the November presidential election in presidential election years from 1832 (if not earlier) through 1844, in 1852, from 1860 through 1876, in 1888, from 1896 through 1908 and from 1920 through 1932." (Wikipedia)

Most Americans, yes, MOST Americans, other than Verm, hope that history repeats itself in 2008.

"What would you call Bush's family estate in Maine?"

Chimpworld?

No mention of it here yet, but Hillary has a new campaign manager.

"What would you call Bush's family estate in Maine?"

Korleone Kompound, Kennebunkport.

No mention of it here yet, but Hillary has a new campaign manager.

Check the back page.

It's strange that the republicans always label the kennedys as having a 'compound' yet Bush's estate is referred to as a 'ranch' as was Reagan's estate. A transparent effort to try and make themselves look like the avg person.

What would you call Bush's family estate in Maine?

Posted by COMMONSENSE

a compound implies they have to fend off the mob with torches and pitch forks.

It's strange that the republicans always label the kennedys as having a 'compound'

Whenever you get around to it Commonsense I'd appreciate your proof on this. I have always heard the Kennedy estate referred to as a compound.....for as long as I can remember.

The Kennedy's gave it that name. For in the dead of night after the bars close the boys get to bring back the women they fed drinks to all night. Into a compound where the gates could be locked from the inside. Only if Mary Jo had made it to the compound......

It's strange that the republicans always label the kennedys as having a 'compound' yet Bush's estate is referred to as a 'ranch' as was Reagan's estate. A transparent effort to try and make themselves look like the avg person.

What would you call Bush's family estate in Maine?


Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-02-10 08:07 PM | Reply

And it only took you 20 minutes to try an turn this into an anti-Bush thread. You creeps are sooooo predictable, which is part of the fun. The Kennedy compound has been referred to in the press as a compound for as long as I can remember.

Seems that a collection of houses surrounded by an electric fence, with security guards, is known as a "compound." Go to Spain, Mexico, the Philippines and any other place where they use that design and it's also called a "compound."

A piece of rural land that is not under cultivation is known as a "ranch."

This is known as "English."

As for the family estate in Maine, I guess it would depend on the design. Chances are, it's also a "compound."

Most Americans, yes, MOST Americans, other than Verm, hope that history repeats itself in 2008.

Posted by sagmain at 2008-02-10 08:12 PM | Reply

You display your ignorance and bigotry for all to see. I don't have strong feelings about any of the candidates, positive or negative. Though I do call them as I see them, regardless of political party.

And as I said a few days ago, I voted for Obama on Super Tuesday, you dipshit.

Vern, they are avowed Democrats....that entitles them to their prejudgement and bigotry....dontcha' know.

Well then, congratulations, Verm!

Since I don't make it a practice to follow your EVERY word, I'm very pleased your action of voting for Obama contradicts only MOST of your words, being the hate filled anti-liberal spittle-lipped no-neck freak that you are.

But inconsistency in a blogger is a tad more interesting than the usual humdrum constancy around here. So, again, good work. However, I must suppose, judging by the record number of times your tiny head explodes at the mere mention of anything liberal, that you'll be frothing at the mouth and sharpening your poison pen soon enough when you actually find out Obama is a liberal.

Hehe. Verm. Hehe.

voting for Obama contradicts only MOST of your words, being the hate filled anti-liberal ...

Posted by sagmain at 2008-02-10 10:15 PM | Reply

Sorry, assclown, but HATE is a liberal emotion. You are so hae-filled that you assume the same in others simply because they show you that you are wrong.

I find people like you to be kind of amusing, in that 'carnival geek' way.

"I don't make it a practice to follow your EVERY word"

Yes, you do.

Obama Wins Maine Caucus

Joshau Chamberlain would be proud.

Oh God, you've suddenly become boring. That's not a good trait, Verm. Please do better. Though it's late, so I forgive you.

"Sorry, assclown, but HATE is a liberal emotion. "

It writes itself! Verm, medication time.

goooooooooooooo Obama! wooot! The last best hope we have to stabilize the country.

"Why do you argue?...it's not so much that what you're doing is bad, it's more that it's...hurt- hurting America." - Jon Stewart

Geez, the bloke votes for Obama and still the vitriol. Let's just all celebrate on our common ground, which is just how fantastic it'll be to see Hillary lose the primary.

Finally something (true) liberals and (true) conservatives can agree upon!

***** What would you call Bush's family estate in Maine?
Posted by COMMONSENSE *****

..........Da Reichstag.........


.........in honor of Prescott Bush's nazi love......

What would you call Bush's family estate in Maine?

Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-02-10 08:07 PM | Reply

Assholeshire?

It's strange that the republicans always label the kennedys as having a 'compound' yet Bush's estate is referred to as a 'ranch' as was Reagan's estate. A transparent effort to try and make themselves look like the avg person.

What would you call Bush's family estate in Maine?


Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-02-10 08:07 PM | Reply

Does Joe Six Pack own a "ranch"?

Obama sweeps, Hillary weeps!

Why Obama Won (Everywhere)

I drove for two hours yesterday to Bangor with my sister and daughter to see Barack speak in Maine. I figured it would be interesting to see a candidate speak, when Maine is typically forgotten. We made the mistake of getting there about an hour before the doors opened to the Bangor Auditorium, as the population of the city had increased by a third for his speech. We waited in the longest line I had ever seen in my life for almost two hours. We met some wonderful people, many younger and surprisingly many quite a bit older. After all of that waiting, we were only a few hundred feet from the auditorium when we were told that the main room had filled to capacity as well as the overflow room. Just when we were ready to turn back, we were told that Barack would speak to us outside, and would do so FIRST.

So imagine a scene like the stump speeches only read about in books, people jostling on snowbanks, climbing fences, trees, even each other in the calm cold that was Maine yesterday to hear and see Barack, for only a few minutes. And did he deliver.

There was excitement, there was hope, and there were specifics. Talk of new ways to use our old industrial centers, dead and forgotten by the establishment. Talk of help with college tuition. Talk of thinking about our children and grandchildren first. He then spent time talking to and shaking hands with the crowd before going in.

I could not believe this was happening. No crowd control, no checking of bags, Barack in a potentially dangerous setting with no way for Secret Service to cover him. And he did it without hesitation. Anyone who will do this in a state with a population likely to vote for Hillary, a tiny, white, poor, lost in the back woods near Canada population, and for those foolish enough to show up "late", is someone who clearly gives a damn. He was comfortable with a chaotic situation, worked it to his advantage on the fly, and did it with grace and aplomb. Hillary speaks of worries about Barack being a likable guy, same as George Bush. She's right, and also dead wrong. Likable they both can be, yes. But George Bush is the man who drinks you under the table, then drives you all home and thusly off a cliff. Barack is the guy you follow into battle, ready to do what needs to be done to save a country in danger. This life-long Independent is ready to sign on to the Democratic party, participate in today's caucus, and follow this leader all the way to November and beyond. I exhort everyone else here to consider the same.


andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com

Interesting that Maine would choose Obama, given Maine's status as the state with the highest tax burden (8 years running, I believe). I've always said, having lived there for a few years, that if you want to see what the United States would become if the Pelosi/Reid types ran the country, look at how seriously screwed up Maine is. Huge (HUGE) tax burden, no economy, no jobs (the biggest employer in the state IS the state), insurance regulations that have pushed all the companies out and led to state-run medical insurance, crappy education and a population that has seriously considered ceding from the US to become part of Canada.

I would have thought, with those credentials, they would have overwhelmingly supported Clinton. Now I have to more closely see why a state that always votes for the next handout would support Obama.

I also voted for Obama, even though I've never voted for a Democrat in my life. My reasoning wasn't that he was going to straighten out any mess, Bush mess or otherwise.

I voted for him because we have traveled so far to the right in this country that 'moderates' appear to be liberals. It is time to go back to what most americans truly are - Fiscally Conservative and Scoially Liberal at the same time.

I am saddened by the viciousness of the regressives' continued attacks on Ms. Hillary. With my feet firmly in the Obama camp and feeling as upbeat as I did in the first year of President Kennedy, I must yet point out that Senator Clinton is a fine American who has done much good for her country. Yes, she has compromised a lot - as has Senator Obama - but is totally undeserving of the ugliness that seems to stem from her husband's totally irrelevant recreational activities while in the White House. Let's honor Hillary, not badmouth her. herm

I hope we all agree Herm. Senator Obama certainly does, and he says so from the stump each and everyday. I hope the Hillary supporters realize this.

Kennebunkport

Posted by ride_on at 2008-02-10 08:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Strap_On,

That's where it's located, dipshit.

Okay, hold on there turdburglars. I said they label the Kennedy's as having a compund, (as if it's a dirty word), never said they gave it that name.

Nice try.

Once again, address the subject of the post, if you can.

What would you call the Bush family estate in Maine? An 'Estate' perhaps? Or is that just another 'ranch'?

Vern, do you see ANYTHING odd about your two posts??

Here, let me put them here for you.

"Still, I'm glad to see one more nail in the coffin of Clinton, Inc. These disgusting people need to go the way of the nasty Kennedy Clan. Build a compound someplace and pretend you are still important.

Posted by vernon at 2008-02-10 07:43 PM | Reply | Flag:"



Then I post about the differences in the terminology used to descirbe dems and repubs estates and you come back with this:

"And it only took you 20 minutes to try an turn this into an anti-Bush thread. You creeps are sooooo predictable, which is part of the fun. .....

Posted by vernon at 2008-02-10 09:36 PM | Reply | Flag:


See the time stamp difference? You go after the Kennedy's and when I do it (after you) regarding the Bush family, now I'm suddenly 'turning it into an anti-bush thread'.

You sure a simple one. You just made yourself look like an ass.....again.

Thanks.

You guys don't get it, no one dislikes her as a person (except me, I dislike her on every level), they dis-like her politics. All you have to do is listen to her, if you can stand it, and you will see that she is a Marxists in a moderate democrats clothing. This is why people hate her.

She has her college papers sealed to try to hide that fact. Listen to her share the wealth and univeral heathcare plans with an open mind. If you don't see it, you should peobably stay out of political discussions.


So now we have a choice between;

1) a Marxist (clinton)
2) a moderate liberal (obama)
3) a moderate conservative (mccain)
4) A conservative theologian (huckabee).

Since we have been burned on the constitutional level by each successive conservative, I say we try someone that actually still thinks the constitution is valid - thus obama. Plus he has less baggage.

"and you will see that she is a Marxists in a moderate democrats clothing. "

You're an imbecile. Hillary Clinton is a corporate liberal.

Ahhh..Obama...the huddled masses yearning to hear what he will give them...what more are they "entitled to"

Liberty to make your own mistakes and learn by them? - Gone with the gift of socialism

US the land of opportunity?- No - not everyone has the same opportunity so we will take that away - only those that would have it - will miss it. The government is the only decider of who has - and has not.

US as the unique capitalistic enclave that has lifted our standard of living beyond any of the other western countries? (I have been to every Western European and some Eastern European countries and compared my home and property and lifestyle to the people that work for me or with me there. It is not even close) Ahh..that is gone too...we will embrace the European model - just as they are turning toward us.


We will get out of Iraq!...and leave it to the Syrians and the Iranians taking away the freedom from the Iraqi's and giving greater wealth to those who would do us harm.


Obama will create what the liberals have always wanted...a toothless America, devoid of winners and losers, on its last legs as a republic as are freedom to choose is removed and given to the government.

Welcome to Obama's world....Chaves or Stalin would feel right at home






This just in, everybody is an imbecile except Bill_Oreilly. Bill, you think it's time you learned a new word.

I don't see anything about her corporate policies that make her more or less liberal (or conservative)than anyone else in office. She is in the pay of corps. just like every other elected official in DC.

But that doesn't describe her political base philosophy. Sorry, I think we went over your elementary school level understanding of the politics.




"She is in the pay of corps. just like every other elected official in DC. "

Posted by Lipzoidial



"she is a Marxists in a moderate democrats clothing."

Posted by Lipzoidial

Well, what is it? Is she a corporate whore or a Marxist?

totally undeserving of the ugliness that seems to stem from her husband's totally irrelevant recreational activities while ...

Posted by herm at 2008-02-11 11:50 AM | Reply

Herm, did you just get here? Did you miss the first two reels?

Nobody cares about Bill's degrading the Oval Office except Lefty cultists who are still pissed about the impeachment. They keep bringing it up.

Hillary! is despised entirely on her own merits.

Or maybe you meant she was a Groucho Marxist?

"Welcome to Obama's world....Chaves or Stalin would feel right at home"

Clinton's a Marxist! Obama is a Stalinist!

Sincerely,
The red-baiting moronic Right

See the time stamp difference? You go after the Kennedy's and when I do it (after you) regarding the Bush family, now I'm suddenly 'turning it into an anti-bush thread'.

Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-02-11 01:34 PM | Reply

I did not try to push the thread into Kennedy territory but only used Kennedy as an example which most people relate to: The Kennedy clan is irrelevant, inbreeding and getting drunk in their safe haven. That's what the Clintons need to do.

You are the one who leaped on that with your

"Oh Yeah?!?!? Well what about Bush?!?!?! Huh? Huh, smart guy!"

What is it with you clowns that no matter the topic, it always has to go back to Bush being worse? We need a thread about Krusty Burgers, so you can immediately say that "Bush makes the worst fast food, so there!"

Apparently my English lesson left you ass smarting. So now you are once again trying to change the subject; this time away from your piss poor understanding of our language.

More ancedotes from Maine:

Yesterday I participated in the Democratic caucuses in central Maine. I am nearly 50, and I've never seen anything like it. The turnout was amazing - four little towns in the same small community center, with over 200 people attending. In 2004 the total number might have been 40. But that's not the interesting part.

When our little town split off for our individual caucus, I realized much of what you have been saying about Obama being a game changer is true.

There were 30 of us, with about 10 for Hillary and 20 for Obama (27 when absentee ballots were counted). Four of the Obama voters spoke up - there were all independents who had switched their registrations to Democratic so that they could participate. And this on a snowy day. In 2004, we had only 8 people caucus in our town, so in a typical year, that would have been half of the draw.

The most poignant words came from one of the independents, a clean-cut career military guy in his 40s who said he had always voted a straight Republican ticket, and was devastated at what has happened to the military in the last seven years. He said early in his career his was treated like royalty overseas; just last year he was spit on twice.

The most heated moment came late in the process, when an elderly gentleman for Hillary said, "I want everyone here to make a pledge, and I'm talking to all you Obama supporters. I want you to pledge that you will be loyal Democrats, and vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination." The 4 (former) independents all said flat-out if it was Clinton vs. McCain, they would be voting for McCain. One Obama supporter said, "I'm an American first, not a Democrat, and I will make no such pledge." The rest of us Obama supporters were quiet because we didn't want to offend our neighbors, but I did a quick poll of 4 around me as we were leaving, and their position is the same as mine - we are not voting for Hillary for president under any circumstances.

It's such a pleasant surprise as we get to know him, see what he is building, and start to believe.

I think the Clinton supporters had to be struck as everyone was by the numbers, and the new people. The kid elected chair of our caucus was 20, figuring out the delegate split with the calculator on his cell phone. The average age of our caucus attendees is usually 50+ - we've never had college-age kids show up in the time I've been involved.

Just imagine this same scene played out in thousands of little towns across the country, as independents, life-long Republicans, and kids show up to Democratic caucuses. Game changer indeed.


andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com



I did not try to push the thread into Kennedy territory but only used Kennedy as an example which most people relate to: The Kennedy clan is irrelevant, inbreeding and getting drunk in their safe haven. That's what the Clintons need to do.

You are the one who leaped on that with your

"Oh Yeah?!?!? Well what about Bush?!?!?! Huh? Huh, smart guy!"

What is it with you clowns that no matter the topic, it always has to go back to Bush being worse? We need a thread about Krusty Burgers, so you can immediately say that "Bush makes the worst fast food, so there!"

Apparently my English lesson left you ass smarting. So now you are once again trying to change the subject; this time away from your piss poor understanding of our language.

Posted by vernon at 2008-02-11 02:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Face it, you were made to look the fool and now you're trying to backpedal.

I did the same thing you did (AFTER you) but I did it about a family your worship, so therefore I must have be trying to make it an anti-Bush thread.

Can't stand having a comparison made? Why is that?

As for your line of "Apparently my English lesson left you ass smarting"....read that again and tell me who it is that needs an English lesson.

"Apparently my English lesson left you ass smarting. So now you are once again trying to change the subject; this time away from your piss poor understanding of our language.

Posted by vernon at 2008-02-11 02:29 PM"

Fucking hilarious. Our old coot Vernon is such a hoot.

You post is very telling and counter to some of your past arguments,

More ancedotes from Maine:


When our little town split off for our individual caucus, I realized much of what you have been saying about Obama being a game changer is true ...

Four of the Obama voters spoke up - there were all independents who had switched their registrations to Democratic so that they could participate ...

BO has a lot of independents voting for him, many doing as above switching to participate. This is were the large numbers of votes BO is getting in the open primaries and cacuses. But, can these voters build a future and a party or as some have suggested a personal (cult like) following. Will it lead to down ballot voting, I do not see the evidence for that. Many of you paste show an abundence of support for BO the man. However, I'm troubled by what is indicated below.

The most heated moment came late in the process, when an elderly gentleman for Hillary said, "I want everyone here to make a pledge, and I'm talking to all you Obama supporters. I want you to pledge that you will be loyal Democrats, and vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination." The 4 (former) independents all said flat-out if it was Clinton vs. McCain, they would be voting for McCain. One Obama supporter said, "I'm an American first, not a Democrat, and I will make no such pledge." The rest of us Obama supporters were quiet because we didn't want to offend our neighbors, but I did a quick poll of 4 around me as we were leaving, and their position is the same as mine - we are not voting for Hillary for president under any circumstances.


Not only did the independents say they would NOT VOTE a HC ticket but also these dems. said the same. Sorry Tony, but where is the rational voter you are writing about? You cannot say you are for the issues and not vote for HC if she wins the nomination. This is not the time to take your ball and go home! The Dem and Rep parties are 180 degrees apart. There is very little difference legislatively between HC and BO. In the charisma category BO does beat her hands down. So if there is little diff. legislatively it seems to me these supporters are going for the fluff. How could they vote against their stated interests?

Just imagine this same scene played out in thousands of little towns across the country, as independents, life-long Republicans, and kids show up to Democratic caucuses. Game changer indeed.

Yeah, just imagine when they stay home in Nov. Game changer indeed. GAME OVER

B.O. is an apt name for him as his policies stink.

He is getting set up to be dropped guys. Hillary will get the nod from the supers. She will carry the major states and the supers.


btw If they go to the convention to settle this say good bye to any chance at the whitehouse

"Nobody cares about Bill's degrading the Oval Office except Lefty cultists who are still pissed about the impeachment. They keep bringing it up. Hillary! is despised entirely on her own merits."

I know that I'll regret asking, Vern baby, but what might those be?

The fact is that the likes of Vern and his small coterie of rightie tighties blame everything from the Darfur massacre to the drooping Dow on Clinton's White House peccadillos.

My heart is with Obama these days. The Vernons of the DR have yet to put together a swift boat job on him. (And believe me, they will. Starting with the Moslem innuendos.) But Hillary is a fine lady. I hope they erect a statue to her. herm

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