No, the headline is "MITT QUIT"

Well there is a shocker. Actually, it does show that he is at least a SOMEWHAT competent business man. It took him quitting to make me realize it though.

I didn't think he'd quit...

McCain it is... nice

Did Romney really say "size does matter"?

Come on Mitt! You are boring me to tears. Get to the point ans say "I quit!"

I'll laugh if Mitt tells everyone to vote for huckabee.

Romney still doesn't know how to deliver a speech with pauses for applause. Watching him step all over them is brutal.

So Mitt, how many millions of your own dollars did you piss away????
Are those boys or yours going to fing another way to "serve the country" now????

Willard, we hardly knew ye.

McCain's got new tread on his walker for sure now!

No! No!

I'll laugh if Mitt tells everyone to vote for huckabee.

Or Ron Paul.

Rush Limbaugh is not taking this well on his show.

Yeah, it shows he would be much better at running the country than Suckabee who has the least number of delegates and has not dropped out. Yeah, I want that guy leading the country. Goes to show how dumb Southern Republicans are.

I'll be highly amused in Huckabee quits before Paul.

Are those boys or yours going to fing another way to "serve the country" now????

Posted by danni at 2008-02-07 01:07 PM


Yup...they'll probably go into politics.

"Rush Limbaugh is not taking this well on his show."

Maybe he should take a few pills to come down, ha!

Rush Limbaugh is not taking this well on his show.

Posted by rcade at 2008-02-07 01:09 PM | Reply

It's nothing a little Oxy won't solve.

Rush Limbaugh is not taking this well on his show.

Some of us can't listen to him have his little hissy-fit. Can someone post some quotes?

I'll be highly amused in Huckabee quits before Paul.

Posted by RevDarko


Who?

I'll be highly amused in Huckabee quits before Paul.

Posted by RevDarko


That would be great!

What happens to his delegates?

C-Pac choices John McCain or Mike Huckabee?

Two Dems? roflmao!

Someone should put a butterfly net over Hucky though. As the Evangel choice he could be dangerous. How hard would JM have to hold his nose to pick Hucky for VP?

Posted by RevDarko


Who?


Come on, Rob. It's ME! REV DARKO!

You've known me for years!

Did Romney really say "size does matter"?

Posted by rcade at 2008-02-07 01:05 PM


Too late to pull any of the women's vote from Hil!

If Rush is pissed, it must be a good thing for the country that Mitt quit.

Be well.

Who?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Rob, that was funny the first, oh I don't know, 7 times, but it's getting old. Don't you have any fresher material?

How hard would JM have to hold his nose to pick Hucky for VP?

Posted by Corky at 2008-02-07 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not hard. McCain has put his nose in the ass of evangelicals before.

Come on, Rob. It's ME! REV DARKO!

Oh... right... now I remember...

But who is this Paul guy you mention... oh wait, I think I remember... Short guy, kind of tubby... black?

How a Mormon thought he could win the Republican nomination, given the white evangelical stronghold in the South, is beyond me. This guy's goose was cooked before the campaign ever got started.

When 30% or more of your own party believes you worship Lucifer in your underwear, you're screwed.

Thanks, RCade, but streaming media is blocked here. I've no one I can complain to about it, since I'm the bloke who blocked it, but I'm not going to open it up just for me to hear Rush's temper tantrum.

Rob, that was funny the first, oh I don't know, 7 times, but it's getting old.

As long as I'm laughing and I always get a response from the DrPaul cultists I'll keep saying it...

"watch dittocam live"

Jesus...is this species wiped out yet? Someone save the universe from us, please.

But who is this Paul guy you mention... oh wait, I think I remember... Short guy, kind of tubby... black?

Nah, that's Ringo.

A McCain Huckabee ticket would be a monumental disaster, the worst ticket in teh history of all elections. Don't do it John!

Yup, it takes a good businessman to know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. So Rush is unhappy! Anyone heard from Coulter yet? herm

But who is this Paul guy you mention... oh wait, I think I remember... Short guy, kind of tubby... black?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-02-07 01:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, he's not the pool guy you dated.

A McCain Huckabee ticket would be a monumental disaster

Yeah, that would be no good...

In all honesty I would say McCain should pick Ron Paul, but Paul isn't smart enough to accept the request...

One consequence of this decision is that McCain has less reason to make Huckabee the veep.

No, he's not the pool guy you dated.

Posted by Alexandrite


Everyone knows I ain't down with the swirl

Alexandrite, LMAO!

What happens to his delegates?
Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-02-07 01:12 PM

YEAH!

Looks like their relegated to death via the Kamikaze vote!

If McCain picked Ron Paul for VP...the coulters, limbaughs, and becks really WOULD vote for hillary.

His sons told him to stop spending all their money. Who did he think he was? George Bush.

Mitt is merely bowing to the inevitable, and adhereing to St. Ronnie's 11th commandment. I guarantee you that the GOP machine will be taking notes of all the soundbites of Hill-Billy attacking Barak and vice versa.

McCain it is on the GOP side, for better or worse.

Now if McCain asks Huckabee to be his VP, I'll have to revisit my doubts about the coexistence of dinosaur and man.

If McCain picked Ron Paul for VP...the coulters, limbaughs, and becks really WOULD vote for hillary.

Nuttin but alotta talk and a badge... no figure on the right, especially not the people who make a living talking to republicans (Books, Radio, TV) is going to vote for hillary.

Look for some sort of reconcilliation meeting to come soon... some big sitdown I bet. That will allow Limbaugh, Coulter and such to say they now support him and blah, blah, blah...

Mitt could be angling for the VP slot, which wouldn't be a bad idea, considering McCain's age.

In all honesty I would say McCain should pick Ron Paul ...

McCain expressed open contempt for Paul in some of the debates over his position against the war.

"If McCain picked Ron Paul for VP...the coulters, limbaughs, and becks really WOULD vote for hillary."

THAT would be the best result ever. We conservatives could have our party back from the neo-con nut jobs.

I would not vote for McCain even if he put Paul on the ticket, which seems unlikely anyways.

"There is no conservative alternative in the race." -- Rush Limbaugh

I hope he's right. Having a presidential race without a conservative running is my dream come true.

studentdoctor.com.msu.edu

Why did you leave me, rob?

Dethspud, you left us

"No conservative in the race?!"

Rush is an idiot!

They chose to ignore Ron Paul. What a fatass drugadict is Rush!

Mitt could be angling for the VP slot, which wouldn't be a bad idea, considering McCain's age.




too much bad blood.

"If McCain picked Ron Paul for VP"

I could vote for him over Hillary in a minute.
Chucklehead OTOH ...

McCain expressed open contempt for Paul in some of the debates over his position against the war.

Posted by rcade


Didn't Reagan and Bush fight a lot in the primaries too though?

I'm just saying Ron Paul has less then no chance to win the nomination. but he has millions of dollars and a pretty loyal following. He should try to get on board with McCain now, or end up being a poor man's Pat Buchanan.

The DudSpud(tm) is a coward.....always was, always will be. THAT IS WHY IT WAS MERELY A THIRD PERSON TALKING POTATO.

Hey, Rush, quit whining. You're loaded. If you're so in love with Romney, why didn't you give him a few million to blow on his fruitless campaign?

Oh yeah -- MCCAIN-Feingold.

No wonder fat cats hate that guy. He made it slightly more difficult to purchase the White House.

"Rush is an idiot!"

So what else is new?

I hope he's right. Having a presidential race without a conservative running is my dream come true.

I'll drink to that.



Of course, I'll also drink to the sunrise, not starting any major fires, the newspaper not being wet when I pick it up, spelling the word "snort" correctly, spelling the word "snort" incorrectly...you get the point.

Didn't Reagan and Bush fight a lot in the primaries too though?

Yes. Then Bush blew Reagan for 8 years. Sad.

too much bad blood.

Posted by kerrin57 at 2008-02-07 01:24 PM

Not nearly...now if it had gone on for a few more months, maybe, but Mitt leaving in early February leaves a long time until the convention for their little spats to heal.

dayam!

most people i know who were for romney will now vote for huckabilly.

Rev, who gives a sh*t if that newspaper is wet.......

I'm not seeing the Mitt speech....DID HE EVER SAY HE QUITS or suspends his campaign?

THREE MAN RACE FOLKS, THREE MAN RACE!!!

"No conservative in the race?!"

Rush is an idiot!

They chose to ignore Ron Paul. What a fatass drugadict is Rush!

Posted by member2586 at 2008-02-07 01:24 PM | Reply

Limbaugh is an imbecile.

Ron Paul wants to reduce the size of the federal government to its pre-Civil War status.

However, because Paul isn't an advocate for American imperialism, he's not a "conservative" according to Limbaugh.

You are boring me to tears.

Posted by member2586

Your tear ducts must be damn near dry after watching Paul's campaign.

I can't listen to rush anymore, rcade. He just had a caller say that the dems need to be taken to the woodshed for being wrong about Iraq. And he agreed.

*head hurts*

Actually Wis watching and talking with people involved in the RP campaign is very refreshing and restores your faith that a lot of people deeply care about where we are today and where we are headed. The young people (and a lot of people that care about young people having opportunities) that support RP see him as their chance at a fair and unburdened life of liberty and freedom in this country.

DID HE EVER SAY HE QUITS or suspends his campaign?

Yep. The audience booed and cried "no! no!" (I think some of them might have been undocumented immigrants he paid to be there.)

Thanks RCADE.

Your tear ducts must be damn near dry after watching Paul's campaign.

Posted by wisgod


Hey Wisgod, did you manage to hook up the old black and white TV on Tuesday night? Does it still work or did you throw something at it?

It is just going to be hilarious listening to Rush in the next few months, and I NEVER ever listen to Rush, but to hear him bash the Republican nominee will be priceless.
I'm even going to tune in Fox News to hear Sean try to destroy his own candidate.

BTW, did I mention, John McCain says....he doesn't know much about economics....that's reassuring when we are either in or heading into a recession....the voters will love it.

Why do so many Democrats listen to Rush Limbaugh?

"I can't listen to rush anymore"

I quit listening to him years ago, I've been very happy since then.

BTW, did I mention, John McCain says....he doesn't know much about economics....that's reassuring when we are either in or heading into a recession....the voters will love it.

Posted by danni at 2008-02-07 01:34 PM | Reply

Don't worry. The wars McCain will wage in Iraq and elsewhere, and the boost that will give to the defense and technology sectors of our economy, will be a nice stimulus plan.

THREE MAN RACE FOLKS, THREE MAN RACE!!!

Posted by member2586


McCain, Obama & Hillary?

Why do so many Democrats listen to Rush Limbaugh?

Posted by JOE


To listen to what the "opposition" is saying maybe?

Rush Is Loosing His Damn Mind !!

Now What Will He Do Now, He Lost His MOJO !!!

-Sarge

Don't worry. The wars McCain will wage in Iraq and elsewhere, and the boost that will give to the defense and technology sectors of our economy, will be a nice stimulus plan.

Posted by anton


Maybe in the short-term. but long-term this empire or hgemony or whatever we call it will bankrupt us. How McCain can run as a deficit hawk and a war hawk at the same time is mind boggling!

THREE MAN RACE FOLKS, THREE MAN RACE!!!

Posted by member2586


McCain, Obama & Hillary?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Hillary is a man? Gee, no wonder Bubba wanted to have fun with Monica and all those other women.

Hillary is a man?

All Signs Point To Yes

"Rush Is Loosing His Damn Mind !!"

That happened a long time ago already. That is why I quit listening to him years ago.

Maybe in the short-term. but long-term this empire or hgemony or whatever we call it will bankrupt us. How McCain can run as a deficit hawk and a war hawk at the same time is mind boggling!

Posted by member2586 at 2008-02-07 01:40 PM | Reply

That has been the Republican playbook since, what, Reagan? Nixon?

It has worked mighty well, in an electoral sense.

Ron Paul is the only one suggesting it's not a good idea. Look how he's treated by the establishment.

Look how he's treated by the establishment

Don't forget the voters

If only Fred Thompson had not been so lethargic, then Conservatives would not have their panties in a bunch now.

I agree with RCADE. Huckabee is probably Veep toast. Though having two liberal Republicans on the ticket would draw more independents.

But sadly, the race is no longer hilarious, just mildly amusing...
Will this fir up the Paulies? Unless he's blown it on coke and hookers, Ron has got to have a bunch of cash socked away. He sure didn't spend it on advertising.

Agreed, I'm no Mormon, but my best friend of 23 years is. Southern Bigots... um, I mean Baptists who don't understand that Mormon's believe that Christ is the Son of God (who came to America), their Lord and Savior, and the only way to salvation, really harpooned any chance of having a Christian (yes, Mormons are Christian)as President by voting for who their preacher told them to vote for rather than doing research and being free-thinkers. Such a shame that so many people are such ignorant sheep. And I thought the South had come a long way... evidently only on the DNC side.

Rush Is Loosing His Damn Mind !!

Now What Will He Do Now, He Lost His MOJO !!!

-Sarge

Posted by Sarge at 2008-02-07 01:40 PM

That is what they said when Clinton got elected...Rush made more money than ever those 8 years .

Hillary is a man?

Then why hasn't Dubya hit on her? Maybe heGeorge just prefers the ex-Marine type of guy?

So will Mitt offer himself as Veep?

If I were a Republican I would not offer myself up as VP. Considering people are tired of 8 years of Bush and that the base doesn't like McCain, the GOP ticket will go down in flames. No one in their right mind would want to be associated with such a fiasco.

"...Baptists who don't understand that Mormon's believe that Christ is the Son of God (who came to America), their Lord and Savior, and the only way to salvation, really harpooned any chance of having a Christian (yes, Mormons are Christian)as President..."

Yeah. Its weird isn't it? When you take a religion and skew it to your own liking (they even have a name for it: blasphemy), the originalists tend to get upset. Jews never did accept Christianity as the same as Judaism. Must have been the whole "magical son of god" thing that made people shake their heads in disbelief. I can't imagine why.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

How McCain can run as a deficit hawk and a war hawk at the same time is mind boggling!

Posted by member2586

Eh, can you say no more ear marks?

No more earmarks (we save about $20B a year on programs that benefit actual Americans).

Yet $1T goes to patrol the streets of Iraq while their elected government sits on their thumb?

Yep. That's modern "conservatism" for you.

Wisgod, funny flag!

No more earmarks (we save about $20B a year on programs that benefit actual Americans).

Posted by kevin23

When did you purchase a Tuna Factory?

Wisgod-

Either make sense, or exercise some restraint. What the hell are you talking about?

Wisgod-

Either make sense, or exercise some restraint. What the hell are you talking about?

Posted by kevin23

I was addressing your idiotic 1:54 post.

"I was addressing your idiotic 1:54 post"

Ditto. Except make that 1:56.

For better or worse, the Dems are gonna get more of the media coverage between now and the conventions. Unless, of course, Huckabee goes hard evangelical to scoop up the Mittlings.

btw, Does this mean the Colbert bounce still works?

Either make sense, or exercise some restraint. What the hell are you talking about?

Posted by kevin23

It made perfect sense... read a newspaper

A tuna factory that employs Americans certainly benefits Americans now doesn't it, genius?

"read a newspaper"

This coming from someone who pulls "facts" straight from his ass. And proudly. LOL.

Kev how about you just throw "pelosi" and "tuna" into a search engine and catch up a little...

Fucking noobs...

******** Mitt Quits *********

.........cut & run defeatocratic..........

"Kev how about you just throw "pelosi" and "tuna" into a search engine and catch up a little.."

Pelosi's fingers smell like tuna!

There.

A tuna factory that employs Americans certainly benefits Americans now doesn't it, genius?

Posted by kevin23

So does Harlry Fucking Davidson. But Harley Fucking Davidson isn't in Pelosi's district, is it little man.

Pelosi's fingers smell like tuna!

There.

Posted by member2586


We discussed this on the Nooner...

Ob/Gyn Ron Paul's do...

Rob-

My point is: so what? What is yours? Other than more proof that you are a no-life, no-job piece of trash who thinks he has made such a name for himself as an anonymous blogger that it somehow entitles him to act like he's better than anyone else. Now THAT is truly pathetic.

So does Harlry Fucking Davidson. But Harley Fucking Davidson isn't in Pelosi's district, is it little man.

Posted by wisgod

And besides, Harley Davidson worker sare all PACKER FANS!!!

Wisgod-

I'm sorry you thought we were talking about Nancy Pelosi. I know you have trouble comprehending. We're actually talking about SPENDING! Earmarks are a drop in the Iraq war bucket.

My point is: so what?

No, you said Wis needed to make sense... his post made perfect sense.

your ignorance about a topic doesn't effect its relevance.

Wisgod-

I'm sorry you thought we were talking about Nancy Pelosi. I know you have trouble comprehending. We're actually talking about SPENDING! Earmarks are a drop in the Iraq war bucket.

Posted by kevin23

Settle down little man. Next, you'll be challenging someone to another of your famous Internet playground fights. hack.

"Keep her in it, so we can win it". Rush's campaign fundraising slogan for Hillary so the Rethugs can exploit the fear and loathing factor. He's suggesting this right now on his program. Don't know if he's being serious but he's got a point.

I hope Republicans are listening to Rush, maybe they will start contributing to Hillary's campaign to keep her in the race. REmember the more you give the more trouble it will make for Democrats.
Give, give, give!!!!!

Well. At least by running he got his issues in front of the American people.

Wait a sec. What were those issues?

Don't let the door hit ya where the lord of Kolob split ya, Mitt.

"CPAC to all CPAC-ers: Don't boo McCain"

Wherever McCain is, censorhip is sure to follow, be it in elections and now in C-PAC.

"his post made perfect sense."

LOL. He responded to a spending hypocrisy argument (earmarks v. war) with a poke about a tuna factory in Pelosi's district. Yeah. You two are really on the ball. LOL.

Trolls.

Wisgod-

You wish. You just aren't worth it like some others might be.

Trolls.

Posted by kevin23


lmao.... good one noob...

Its okay... we understand you've had a tough week.

Wisgod-

You wish. You just aren't worth it like some others might be.

Posted by kevin23

You'd be wearing your ass for a hat.

Next, you'll be challenging someone to another of your famous Internet playground fights. hack.

Posted by wisgod

Followed by:

You wish. You just aren't worth it like some others might be.

Posted by kevin23


EWWW!!! You mean you've actually challengd people to fights!?!?! HAHAHAHA... Have you met BocaInk? You two would get along well... hahahaha

When pollsters offer voters hypothetical matchups, Mr. Obama does better than Mrs. Clinton against Mr. McCain. For example, a Cook Political Report poll of registered voters released this week found Mr. McCain beats Mrs. Clinton, 45 percent to 41 percent. But Mr. Obama beats Mr. McCain, 45 percent to 43 percent. The latest Washington Post/ABC News poll found similar results.

-Go Obama

-Sarge

"You'd be wearing your ass for a hat." - wisgod

That look workin' for you, whizzy?

post: "You just aren't worth it like some others might be."

response: "You mean you've actually challengd people to fights!?"

You mean you still can't read??? Or do you not understand the word "might" and the concept of future tense? Or both? LOL.

You mean you still can't read??? Or do you not understand the word "might" and the concept of future tense? Or both?

Still the very idea that you have or would challenge someone to a fight on an internet blog... eeeeewwwwwwwwww!

The Right Wing hack on the radio had there noses so far up the ASS of Rudy Guiliani they brought this on themselves. Limbaugh, Hannity and there like was on board for Guiliani along with Faux Noise, buy the time they went to Romney it was to late, McCain's time was 2000, clearly he was a superior candidate the GWB, can't even say the fucking Assholes name.....GO DEMOCRATS VOTE AN VOTE OFTEN!!!

I wonder if the conservatives are singing the praises of GWB at their convention today????

"Wisgod-

"Either make sense, or exercise some restraint. What the hell are you talking about?"

Posted by kevin23 at 2008-02-07 01:58 PM

It made perfect sense... read a newspaper.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-02-07 02:00 PM

Someone (or someones) want to poke around at places like Little Green Footballs and such to see what the general conservative reaction on the ground is? I've not a lot of time to do it, but I'm going to try.

So will Mitt offer himself as Veep?

Posted by northguy3 at 2008-02-07 01:48 PM

I guarantee that they are having that discussion at CPAC today, in some fashion.

When pollsters offer voters hypothetical matchups, Mr. Obama does better than Mrs. Clinton against Mr. McCain. For example, a Cook Political Report poll of registered voters released this week found Mr. McCain beats Mrs. Clinton, 45 percent to 41 percent. But Mr. Obama beats Mr. McCain, 45 percent to 43 percent.

Which is why, IMHO, the Democrats are insane if they nominate Hill-Billy as their candidate.

Nominate Obama, win the WH in 08.

Seems pretty simple to me.

It is so funny to listen to talk radio these days. Person after person is calling expressing displeasure with the rights choice of presidential nominees. But wait, here comes the host with his powerful voice telling you to support there candidate of choice. Usually this works becuase the right were such insular, easily influenced listeners. But I think even hard line conservatives are tired of this crap. America is not about what we have seen over the last 7-8 years. America is about living and letting live. Enjoying prosperity, educating our children and being happy, good fearing citizens, that is it. The right has made attempt after attempt to take these things away. For them all of these things are still offered but only in a fashion of which they approve. Mark Levin, Hannity, Savage, Rush and the rest of you, can't we all just get along-which is all John McCain is saying. And now that you cant promote Mitt any longer, the only choice you have on both sides is someone you dont agree with. I say conservatives should separate from the republican party and put forth there own candidate. Conservatives dont like moderates anyway so why not.

I guarantee that they are having that discussion at CPAC today, in some fashion.

Posted by Rightocenter

There is an unconfirmed rumor in Wisconsin that McCain met with Wi. R-Congressman Paul Ryan, Ranking Republican on the House Budget Committee .

Jeebus what is with all the whoring for Paul Ryan?
He married to your sister?

Would it be wise for the GOP to nominate a white man for VP? Dems will have a woman or black at the top and probably a white southern man as VP, what about Condi Rice? She is a hawk like McCain I think. Would the base go for that?

Jeebus what is with all the whoring for Paul Ryan?

Posted by Jomama

Because that's what we've heard you retard. Ignore it if you don't like it.

Okay, just checked out LGF. A lolt of hand-wringing and depression mixed with "well, at least McCain's nat a Dem in name".

Quite a few have mentioned their plans on putting Reagan as a write-in vote as protest.

"Which is why, IMHO, the Democrats are insane if they nominate Hill-Billy as their candidate.

Nominate Obama, win the WH in 08."

RightoCenter nails it.

"Jeebus what is with all the whoring for Paul Ryan?
He married to your sister?"

Well come one, wouldn't you want a guy from your state to be in teh White House?

Dear Republican party. Good luck pitting a liberal Republican up against two liberal Democrats. Lucky for you, your death will be quick and painless. Goodbye and good riddance.

Sincerely, Conservatives

"Quite a few have mentioned their plans on putting Reagan as a write-in vote as protest."

Yes! Reagan '08!

What is the deal with both GOP and Dems wanting to return to the past? Wheter it's restoring the Clintons, Camelot or Reagan. They really need to get over this "past was better" symdrome. Reagan is dead people. The Revolution will be televized, and the end of the Revolution was televized today.

Having a presidential race without a conservative running is my dream come true.


That was 2000 and 2004. Sadly with McCaint 2008 too.

Lucky for you, your death will be quick and painless. Goodbye and good riddance.

Sincerely, Conservatives

Posted by the_nether at 2008-02-07 02:59 PM

Don't hold your breath, the GOP has been tremendously loyal over the years, even when the radical right has not liked the candidate---they hated GHWB, but coalesced around him in 1988---and will do so again.

There is a lot of hand wringing going on right now, but watch, in two months that will all disappear as the bulls eye shifts to the presumptive Dem nominee.

Having a presidential race without a conservative running is my dream come true.


That was 2000 and 2004. Sadly with McCaint 2008 too.

Thaqt depends on which definition of conservative you use, 726.

Fiscally, no Bush isn't really all that conservative.

Socially, I think he probably would think Oliver Cromwell was too laid back except I doubt he knows who Cromwell was. (Actually, I suspect he would think Cromwell was that British judge on American Idol.)

There is a lot of hand wringing going on right now, but watch, in two months that will all disappear as the bulls eye shifts to the presumptive Dem nominee.

Posted by Rightocenter

I agree 110% if it's Hillary.

btw, Does this mean the Colbert bounce still works?

Posted by northguy3 at 2008-02-07 02:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

In the end, we all know it was Jon Stewart who got that whole ball rolling when he introduced us to Conan in the early 90's..

"Which is why, IMHO, the Democrats are insane if they nominate Hill-Billy as their candidate.

Nominate Obama, win the WH in 08."

RightoCenter nails it.

Posted by bill_oreilly at 2008-02-07 02:58 PM

I am beginning to think that is why the Dems have the 700+ "super" delegates held in reserve for... to make sure the candidate that CAN win the Presidency actually gets nominated.

And the way things are going it will be those delegates that will be making the final decision.

Does Mitt's anouncement mean his other wives can now come out of hiding???

Ranking Republican on the House Budget Committee .


Oh dear god, another fiscal "conservative"

Here is his take on the 3.1 trillion dollar Bushybudget....

The President's budget achieves the important goal of balancing the budget in the near term without raising taxes through fiscal policies that promote economic growth, and limit federal spending to realistic levels.

"I am beginning to think that is why the Dems have the 700+ "super" delegates held in reserve for... to make sure the candidate that CAN win the Presidency actually gets nominated."

You would be correct. It was set up this way after McGovern lost in 48 states.

watch dittocam live"

Jesus...is this species wiped out yet? Someone save the universe from us, please.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-02-07 01:15 PM



It begins with one who will be the first. Be our guest. Be an army of one. Start "saving" the universe, we will follow your lead.

Or you could continue to just whine on like a sewing machine.

Let's guess which.;0)

There is a lot of hand wringing going on right now, but watch, in two months that will all disappear as the bulls eye shifts to the presumptive Dem nominee.

Posted by Rightocenter

I agree 110% if it's Hillary.

Posted by wisgod

I need to revise this...

I agree 110% if it's Hillary, and Schmuckabee IS NOT his VP candidate.

"Shmuckabee"?

Never, never, never listen to me again about political predictions.

I was always saying Romney is the corporate donors' "Golden Boy" and it's a "done deal" and Romney will pick brother Jeb as his VP.

I was wrong. By a long shot. *wince*

Chris, acknowledging an error, so non-drudgeish.
Most of us never admit we aren't all knowing.

Wis-

The bulls eye will shift regardless of who it is, but whether the religious right coalesces around McCain if Obama is the nominee is much less certain, which is why I think Obama beats McCain handily if he is nominated.

Chris, I don't think you were necessarily that far off.

It was pretty obvious that Romney was the "Golden Boy" for the corporate types. I also think you would have been correct if he had gotten the nomination about Jeb.

The thing is, the conservatives within the Republican party are, as it appears, losing power by the day, which means that the corporate types misjudged which horse to back in the primaries.

Who cares? As far as the Republican nominated goes, whoever it is is going to suck. Not to rule out the democratic side, who will also be nominating a crappy candidate. The 3rd party gets my vote once again. A wasted vote? You can think of it that way if you want, but I'm still hoping that one day all of you assholes will wake up and see that you are the ones who are wasting your votes by continually voting between piss and shit when there's a perfectly good candidate in a third party.

Thaqt depends on which definition of conservative you use, 726.


I would define conservative as smaller government, fiscal responsibilty, protect our nation, etc.

All of which Bushy has failed miserably on.

We really should thank Mitt for his Stimulus Plan, investing all those millions of his into the economy.

The rate of return for him appears to be fairly low.... however, he has positioned himself for 2012.

"The 3rd party gets my vote once again."

What 3rd Party??? Greens?? Libertarian?? Who??

Bush doesn't know the meaning of the word conservative...Well, that and about 95% of the other words in the english dictionary.

Unfortunately, I don't think McCain or Huckabee know what conservative values are either.

Incredibleplum,

The vast majority of the sheeple in this nation are too brainwashed to vote for a 3rd party candidate.

That is the way the 2 party system wants it. More money for them.

If there were three, four, five or more viable parties then the influence that any one corporation could extract via $$$$ would be reduced. Real candidates would emerge rather than just pinheads that the $$$ wants and real change could come about.

Until that day we are stuck choosing between dumb and dumber for government office.

" however, he has positioned himself for 2012."

As what, Grand Kleagle?

"What 3rd Party??? Greens?? Libertarian?? Who??" -Danni

Likely libertarian, but it depends.

good bye, d bag.

"If there were three, four, five or more viable parties then the influence that any one corporation could extract via $$$$ would be reduced. Real candidates would emerge rather than just pinheads that the $$$ wants and real change could come about." -726

I couldn't agree more. The principals of real conservativism is to allow competition to drive us to new products and better service. Two parties allows us to still think of ourselves as a democracy while at the same time limiting competition as much as possible.

""If there were three, four, five or more viable parties"

then they would be forced to form coalitions which would then in essence still be the two party system.
In a democracy one group wins by bringing the most diverse group together to form a majority. Don't you ever wonder why third parties can't get traction??? It's because they can't form a majority without being exactly like the existing two major parties. As soon as they start making the compromises necessary to form a majority they become just renamed Dems or Republicans.
We live in a country with a two party system. If you are so disgusted with both parties then you should join one of them and change it from within.

You may be right, Danni. But this is why I've always thought that formal political parties should be shut down. With no political parties for people to cheerlead behind people would be forced to choose a candidate for their ideas. I know this could never happen in the wonderful world of reality, but it's at least a nice thought.

Yeah, when you skew religion to make it mean what you want like the ENTIRE PROTOSTANT REFORMATION! All evangelical protostants have done exactly that; picked what elements of Catholocism they like and turned it into Methodist, Baptist, Church of England, Church of God, etc.

Need I remind you that opposition to religious bigotry is precisely why this nation was founded.

To bad, I would have voted fr him.

To bad, I would have voted fr him.

Posted by retnluvnit


He seems to be the least of all evils even if you throw Hilary in the mix. Obama is actually the least.

"Yeah, when you skew religion to make it mean what you want like the ENTIRE PROTOSTANT REFORMATION! All evangelical protostants have done exactly that; picked what elements of Catholocism they like and turned it into Methodist, Baptist, Church of England, Church of God, etc.

Need I remind you that opposition to religious bigotry is precisely why this nation was founded"

Self-retorting retort.

Hans

"What 3rd Party??? Greens?? Libertarian?? Who??" -Danni

Likely libertarian, but it depends.

Posted by Incredibleplum


Is there an American Party?

There are no parties out there with a clean record.

Need I remind you that opposition to religious bigotry is precisely why this nation was founded.

Posted by stephenlambeth


It was only one of many reasons.

"There are no parties out there with a clean record." -Eddie

Yeah. I don't vote thinking about political parties. I vote thinking about who I believe has the best interest of the US at heart, regardless of what party that person is in. Usually that person just happens to not be in the 2 major parties.

www.theamericanparty.org

It seems to be similar to the Constitution Party. I am sure Niceville would love this party

Damn, Diane is one ugly lady.

The American party seems like it has some good ideals, but they also seem a bit too religious for me. I'll probably stick with libertarian.

1. The only political party with both "Permanent Principles" and a Permanent Platform - we say what we mean and mean what we say!
2. The only political party with a Permanent Principle titled "God Is Our Foundation!"

3. The American Party is committed to preserve, protect and defend the United States Constitution!

4. The symbol of the American Party is the great American Eagle - not a donkey or an elephant!

5. The highest award of the American Party is the Walter Brennan Award given to that "American who has rendered extraordinary service above and beyond the call of duty to God and America!"

6. The American Party stands in unflinching opposition to any member of the Council on Foreign Relations or the Trilateral Commission or any other globalist organization holding any public position in the United States.

7. The American Party stands in opposition to the New World Order and all other forms of globalism!

8. The American Party knows that life is an unalienable right and is absolutely pro-life!

9. The American Party is absolutely for the right of the people to keep and bear arms!

10. The American Party stands absolutely committed to the restoration of our Constitutional Republic - not a disastrous democracy!

Incredibleplum , I agree. If they are anything like the CP, then it's like the Evangelical Right on Steroids.

4. The symbol of the American Party is the great American Eagle - not a donkey or an elephant!


Posted by anton at 2008-02-07 04:30 PM | Reply

Wow. That's important.

4. The symbol of the American Party is the great American Eagle - not a donkey or an elephant!


Posted by anton at 2008-02-07 04:30 PM | Reply

Wow. That's important.

Posted by anton


Yeah, next thing you know, the Green Party will be adopting the Polar Bear as its symbol to promote their stance on Global Warming, LOL!

They should have gotten Dave Letterman to do their top ten list.

10. No, no sex drugs, or rock and roll, but we do have wine women, and song.

9..... go ahead, I am not creative.

The American Party's position on "War" isn't bad. I actually agree with them about a few other things, it appears. It also appears that, all things considered, they're probably nuts.

Anyway....from their website: />

"War

Our military involvements in Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia, Kosovo and the Persian Gulf were undeclared wars. We, therefore, would require that foreign military actions cannot be pursued more than 72 hours without a declaration of war by Congress. We denounce any no-win policy as treasonous. It is immoral to draft anyone to fight in an undeclared war. "

"6. The American Party stands in unflinching opposition to any member of the Council on Foreign Relations or the Trilateral Commission or any other globalist organization holding any public position in the United States. "

Sounds like a bunch of John Birch Society loons.

"It is immoral to draft anyone to fight in an undeclared war. "


I would go farther than that: It is contrary to the principle of individual rights to draft anyone in any war.

A number of moderates around the country have been working together on a Platform for the Moderate Party. This draft Platform is a work in progress that sets the framework for an innovative and evolutionary new political party. The Platform is responsible on fiscal issues and inclusive on social issues.
A final Platform will be developed at a later time, ideally at the Moderate Party national convention in 2008. If you join the Moderate Party and have comments about the Platform, we ask that you record them for future discussion.
Government Spending and Taxes

The Moderate Party supports lowering federal spending and paying down the national debt without compromise to individuals, families, and seniors of American citizenship currently in need of Federal assistance.

The Moderate Party supports a simplified tax code, including the Fair Tax or Flat Tax.

The Moderate Party supports closing tax loopholes for corporations.

International Relations
The Moderate Party believes that the United States must return to its primary role as international peacekeeper.

The Moderate Party believes that although the United States may disagree with other nations' politically and/or socially inhumane ideologies, where those nations have not directly threatened American security, we do not have the right to preemptory invasion.

The Moderate Party believes that the United States must seek economic and diplomatic recourse in bringing corrupt and inhumane governments to justice before the world court, resorting to military recourse only in coalition with other nations in an action sanctioned by an international governing body.

Defense
The Moderate Party supports a strong national defense. The safety and security of the United States is of utmost importance, including securing our borders.

The Moderate Party supports thorough, verified intelligence to ensure a strong defense.

The Moderate Party supports sensibility with regards to defense spending, including, but not limited to, the following:
Maintaining a balanced defense budget.
Auditing federal contracts as necessary to ensure proper billing.
Avoiding conflicts of interests in awarding government contracts.

Environment
The Moderate Party supports protection of our environment to ensure clean land, fresh air, and pure water for ourselves and for future generations.

The Moderate Party opposes sprawl development by encouraging smart planning, livable neighborhoods, and historic preservation.

The Moderate Party supports alternative sources of energy that can individually or collectively meet demand and are also environmentally responsible.

The Moderate Party supports public transportation to lessen dependence on the automobile and improve the quality of our land, air, and water.

Religious Freedom
The 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution mandates the separation of church and state. It is also supported by the 18th Article of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The results of this separation for our country has been a vigorous religious life coupled with a relative lack of religious persecution.

The Moderate Party supports the separation of church and state as the guiding principle that truly guarantees and enables religious liberty for all Americans.

Firearm Responsibility
The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution states "a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The Moderate Party supports the right of citizens to keep and bear arms.

The Moderate Party also recognizes that any firearm ownership requires responsibility for the same. In recognizing this responsibility, we believe:
That education in the proper and safe use of firearms is fundamental for all new and underage firearm owners. We therefore support legislation that encourages citizen education in firearm safety and use.
That both firearms dealers and gun owners have a responsibility to prevent firearms from getting into the hands of criminals. We therefore support legislation requiring background checks on all firearm purchases.
That firearms dealers and private individuals who distribute arms to those citizens deemed unfit for ownership because of prior felony conviction, declared mental incompetence, or deficiency in education on proper firearm safety and use, are in effect acting irresponsibly. We therefore support legislation penalizing those firearms dealers and private citizens who act in such an irresponsible manner.
That parents, as the primary role models and shaping forces in the lives of their minor children, are accountable for the actions of their minor children. We therefore support legislation that holds responsible any parent or guardian who allows their minor children illegal access to their firearms.
Finally, the Moderate Party supports the enforcement of those laws currently in existence that penalize citizens who use firearms in the commission of a crime.

Women's Reproductive Rights
The Moderate Party supports a woman''s right to choose, but is hopeful that the decision to go forward with the termination of pregnancy would be made only under the most extreme circumstances such as rape or incest, or if the life of the mother is otherwise in danger.

The Moderate Party does not support the termination of pregnancy in the third trimester except under circumstances in which the life of the mother is otherwise in danger.

The Moderate Party supports the minimization of pregnancy terminations through education (to include birth control and abstinence) and through greater access to birth control.

Recognition of Unmarried Partners
In agreement with the principles expressed in the Moderate Party's philosophical statement:

The Moderate Party supports the creation of civil unions to provide economic and familial benefits to mutually consenting adult couples.

The Moderate Party opposes any Constitutional Amendment which sacrifices legal recognition of the committed relationships of consenting adult couples on political, economic, or religious grounds.

Although we understand that the federal government must at times, in the interest of the American people, pass legislation limiting our personal liberties, we feel this legislation should only be passed through laws and the government should never use the constitution of the United States to restrict personal liberties.

The Moderate Party.

I heard they had moderate success.

"I would go farther than that: It is contrary to the principle of individual rights to draft anyone in any war." -Member2586

A draft is slavery to your government.

I heard they had moderate success.

Posted by Jomama at 2008-02-07 04:46 PM | Reply

I think that may be moderately overstated.

"I would go farther than that: It is contrary to the principle of individual rights to draft anyone in any war." -Member2586

A draft is slavery to your government.

Posted by Incredibleplum at 2008-02-07 04:46 PM | Reply

The draft is evil.

A draft is slavery to your government.

Posted by Incredibleplum


Yes right on. Why is is that Dems want to bring back the dratft? They supported slavery and now they want to bring back the draft.

IN all liklihood, if we had a draft, we would not be in Iraq right now. The last thing this country or any country wants is a professional army. A citizen army will never side with the government against the citizenry, not true with a professional army. All volunteer = professional army.
The draft was never advocated by supporters of the Iraq war because they knew it would create dissent and force a withdrawl of troops. Any of y'all remember the sixties??? The draft was what created all that dissent which has been mysteriously missing during this disaster.

If we had a fair draft one or all of Mitt's sons would have been in the service instead of working on his campaign.

So too would the sons of many others in Congress.

ONe other important feature of the draft....we wouldn't be using the "back door draft" and be forcing some poor volunteer to serve three or four tours of duty in Iraq. If America goes to war the burden should be spread as evenly as possible throughout society. Try telling the mother of some guy killed during his third or fourth tour that a draft would be "slavery".

I'll be highly amused in Huckabee quits before Paul.

Posted by RevDarko


Who?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole



I am going to laugh my ass off when Paul causes McCain to lose the election to Obama in November.

R.P. is staying in the race, even if he has to run as an independent.

He will be taking millions of votes away from McCain as an Independent and if Hilary gets the Dem nomination, then he will take millions from her (no so much from Obama)

Republicans are just too idiotic to know how stupid they are. Ron Paul is the only candidate who is able to beat Obama (or Clinton) as a Republican.

Anyway, I love to see people like Rob_T_AH squirm when R.P. screws up McCain's chances. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ONe other important feature of the draft....we wouldn't be using the "back door draft" and be forcing some poor volunteer to serve three or four tours of duty in Iraq. If America goes to war the burden should be spread as evenly as possible throughout society. Try telling the mother of some guy killed during his third or fourth tour that a draft would be "slavery".

Posted by danni



Under Hilary or McCain, we will most definately have a draft. Under Obama, maybe not. Under R.P., most definately not.

IN all liklihood, if we had a draft, we would not be in Iraq right now. The last thing this country or any country wants is a professional army. A citizen army will never side with the government against the citizenry, not true with a professional army. All volunteer = professional army.

Posted by danni


In addition, in order to have a draft you must have Congress declare war, IMHO. People are just sick and tired of the President invading countries and then telling US citizens that they must go and kill or be killed in order to support the Empire.

Anyway, I love to see people like Rob_T_AH squirm when R.P. screws up McCain's chances. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by Eddie

Bloomberg....BOO!

"IN all liklihood, if we had a draft, we would not be in Iraq right now." -Danni

I don't disagree, Danni. Like many black and white decision, no matter which way you choose this argument there are negative consequences. For the reason I respect such an opinion, but the US ideal is that we have individual freedom. If we can be forced to fight in a war that we don't believe in we are unable to practice these individual freedoms and may even die as a result. A government that forces you to do something that greatly increases your chance of dying is, in my opinion, a coercive government. I'd rather not be a part of that. Besides, the fact that we fought in Vietnam over 3 decades, even with a draft, isn't all that comforting. A draft hasn't really stopped war as our country has been in a state of almost constant war since WWII.

Or you could continue to just whine on like a sewing machine. What is it with you losers and "whining"? Sorry you hate lefties, but no one forces you to post here.

If you want real whining, hit up rob_the_ahole's posts.

"fair draft"?!?!

I am sorry, I hate to be rude, but that sounds like a ridiculous idea and furthermore it is an oxymoron because there is nothing fair about being forced to go fight a war. Only Statists believe there could be such a thing as a "fair draft", only people who believe that State perrogatives override individual Liberty, which is contrary to the founding values of our contry.

Machiavellian move. I actually kind of admire it.

What I think's going on here is orders from On High (read: Rove Machine) to step aside to clarify the Republican race for the nom as soon as possible, in favor of the most palatable candidate possible.

Since the Dems are still duking it out, that gives the Rethugs a little more juice than they had before, and Gawd knows they're gonna need it in November. The elephant brigade now has one clear message, and almost ten months in which to sell it.

Pretty swift, Karl. Not Swift swift, but swift.

I'd fire his barber.

Gotta say Mitt's surrender was one of the most drug-addled and whiny speaches I've heard in a long time. He blamed everybody but himself for his failures-would have made a good replacement for Bush. maybe he should have said something about his flip-flopping all over the place and his fantasies about his family's role in historic events. Oh yeah, that war on terror Mitt, any of your five sons gonna sign up now? Didn't think so.

btw, Now that Romney has surrendered, Dobson has come out in favor of Huckabee. Big surprise and useless, like Robertson's endorsement of that bald guy from New York, what's his face.

Gotta say Mitt's surrender was one of the most drug-addled and whiny speaches I've heard in a long time.

I especially liked the part where he said he was dropping out for the good of the country and the Republican party. Uh-huh.

Did anyone see in his "I'm a loser speech" where he said that he was stepping down so the Dems couldn't get control of the WH? He didn't explain what he meant , only to say that he was suspending his campaign so that those who surrender to terrrrrists won't get the WH.

he then went on to attack the Dems for not being religious enough and not wanting religion in all things govt.....from there he went onto attack 'Jihadists' saying that the 'Jihadists' don't want the voice of the people heard, they only want to have god in their govt. WTF MITT?

Which is it?

no mo' momo

Meanwhile....

Hey Romney - take your sorry ass back to Navoo...and don't let the White House back door smack you in the ass on the way out!

Watching Romney squirm over his religion affiliation for 9 months: 250.00 in cable fees.

Watching a man piss money down a rabbit hole: 35,000,000.00

Watching Romney whine and snivel like a biotch during his loser speech: PRICELESS!

So Long Romney... Future's so Bright You gotta wear Thummim spectacles!!!

BWAWAWAAHAHAHAHA.....Moron!