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Monday, January 14, 2008

Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist in light of recent smear attempts, and said the reason for him being attacked was that he was a threat to the establishment.

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Whoop! There it is! Whoop! There it is! Whoop! There it is.
Thanks for the post RCADE.

Thanks for the post EDDIE.

I bet you 10 Ameros this post does not make the front page.

Whoop Whoop Whoop

Paul is a racist, homophobe and anti semite whether you want to believe it or not.

There are SCANNED NEWSLETTERS with his SIGNATURE and him writing in first person and about his wife Carol.

Sad to see his supporters trying to figure out how to spin the truth to make people believe otherwise.

BUT don't feel bad Jeff, you have plenty of company in your new little Cult ...

Here .. read Kos and see how your comrade Paultards deal with these new revelations ... instead of accepting the truth, they first suffer denial and then quickly go to work figuring out what lie to use to keep things going. Pathetic clowns ...

www.dailykos.com

GZ is a mind slave
Anti-Semitism is anti-Satanism

For millennia the ancient Babylonian secret slave driving cults have used the Jews like a matadors' cape, to distract people from the real source of their anger. When the Jews are attacked, they are forced to huddle around the slave drivers for protection. Later, the cultists appeal to good heart of the people by making them feel guilty about their attacks on the Jews. In Europe and North America, humanity's natural kindness has been used to brainwash us into a knee-jerk reaction against anything that is labeled Anti-Semitism. The way to remove this brainwash is to compile a database of everything that is called Anti-Semitic and remove from that database anything that is anti-Jew. The remaining body of knowledge can be renamed anti-Satanism. It will be useful in identifying the real villains and the things they are trying to hide.
benjaminfulford.com

There are SCANNED NEWSLETTERS with his SIGNATURE and him writing in first person and about his wife Carol.

Posted by GZlives


GZ,

In this world, if you mention the word "Jew", even in a positive tone, and you are not a Jew, then you are a anti-semite. Then it would be safe to say that if you say that ending financial support of Israel is a good thing, then you must REALLY be an anti-semite.

I could go on with other examples, but I won't

In other words, GZ, when you go waaaay out of your way to try and prove something, you loose credibility in your argument.

Your post is a stretch of the truth and an interpretation of facts into something it's not.

But, that's politics. Majority rules. GZ doesn't. If the majority says he's a racists and all those names you called him, then that's what he is.

Paul is a racist, homophobe and anti semite whether you want to believe it or not.


I guess Thomas Jefferson was too.

Jew.

I guess Thomas Jefferson was too.

Posted by Eddie at 2008-01-14 01:52 PM | Reply


The slave owner? That Jefferson?

Ahh yes the typical Paultard answer to the facts when confronted with them

Is this the way YOUR mind also works ?

The basis for this story comes from Sultan Knish, who reports on a ronpaulforums poster named DaronWestbrooke. The story, told only through screenshots, reveals an eye opening looking inside the mind of a Paultard. Daron Westbrooke starts off by freaking out over the recent TNR revelation, unsure of how he can continue defending the man. Eventually, Daron becomes corrupted by the forces of evil, gradually shedding more and more of his integrity, until he is nothing more than a hollow puppet for Ron Paul. It's something that all of us have have about Paultards, but something we've never been able to confirm it.

Until now.

(1) Daron is freaking out over the latest story. The smoking gun seems to be Ron Paul's signature, and his use of personal information. He needs some talking points, stat. (7) He's starting to feel sick. (14) His room mates are now yelling at him, because it turns out that the man who Daron has been shilling for the past several months is actually a massive racist. He decides to go out for drinks.

(20) Daron begins to realize that the new writings completely blow the old excuses out of the water, and is frustrated from the fact that the excuses keep changing. In a state of drunken brilliance, when the inhibitions go away, he comes to the revelation that all he does these days is make more and more excuses for Ron Paul. Is Daron growing a backbone? (36) He even begins to wonder if he's been "played."

(48) But then Daron begins to sober up, and the natural conspiracy instinct kicks in. He is a Paultard, after all. Bush manufactured a war, god dammit, and he could manufacturer this too! "No oneder the campaign didn't respond about these scanned copies, because they didn't exist, they were created." (60) Even his fellow Paultards express skepticism, but Daron holds steadfast. (81) Daron Westbrooke refuses to surrender!

(109) Eventually, someone suggests that they argue that the signatures were faked, and since this was the smoking gun, Daron decides to go along with it. (193) If they can argue that TNR faked those newsletters, than everything will go away. (196) There's no evidence for this, but that doesn't matter: "All we got now is the signatures, but the point is to repeat it over and over. we can make that thought reality."

(203) Of course, even Daron doesn't seem to believe that the signatures were forged. But they're out of options, and this seems to be the best approach. (4) Someone else points out that no one outside of the Paultard community will believe this, but Daron won't budge his ground.

You want to believe so badly even the facts will be ignored and then distorted in order for your fantasies to continue?

Ridiculous ...

GZ would obviously attack Paul because GZ wants the US to continue to be involved in the ME forever, giving money to Israel and if necessary fighting their wars. Saying this doesn't make me anti-semitic, it makes me criticial of US foreign policy hijacked by AIPAC.

"In this world, if you mention the word "Jew", even in a positive tone, and you are not a Jew, then you are a anti-semite."

Really?
What world do you live in because that's just ridiculous.

I'll let you take that stupid claim back since its hardly worth responding.

"Then it would be safe to say that if you say that ending financial support of Israel is a good thing, then you must REALLY be an anti-semite."

Which would mean according to you that the entire Likud Party in Israel who's very platform is to end the US aid are all in fact anti Semites ?

Another ridiculous claim all for the singular purpose of protecting Der Leader ... Ron Paul


"In other words, GZ, when you go waaaay out of your way to try and prove something, you loose credibility in your argument."

And so if I were you I'd stop trying to defend the indefensible. Ron Paul's newsletters have been scanned and many have HIS SIGNATURE on them, many were written in the first person and many speak to specifics that have only to do with him so we all know HE WROTE THEM .. and now by YOUR definition YOU are surely losing credibility by going WAY OUT OF YOUR WAAAY to try and prove he DIDN'T write them

"Your post is a stretch of the truth and an interpretation of facts into something it's not."

Have you seen the scanned newsletters with his signature?

Have you read the newsletters he wrote in first person?

Or are you blindly defending now?

Gee, Who should we believe? Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder?
Or mocking bird mouth piece GZlIES?

GZ frets the day we elect a president who won't do Israels bidding.

The Isreali lobby accuses anyone who opposes them of being anti-Semitic, yet, many Isrealis don't want large numbers of Palestinians to return because that would destroy the concept of the "Jewish State". Who is being bigoted now? Don't these people have the right to return? If Katrina displaced people have a right to rreturn, why not Palestinians?

I said it before, I'll say it again...

If more corroborating evidence came to light that indicate that Ron Paul is a racist, I would pull my support from him in a second. I agree, he and his campaign bear responsibility for not being prepared to address this at the outset of the campaign. I do find them guilty of negligence in that regard.

That being said...his positions on ending the drug war and opposition to the death penalty are not consistent with racist views in any way, because they are issues in which minorities are unfairly targeted. These are issues that are clear concerns within minority communities...which nobody will address on either side of the aisle.


Since then we've had several minorities come forth in defense of Dr. Paul...including a representative of the NAACP. My point still stands until it doesn't...


I guess Thomas Jefferson was too.

Posted by Eddie at 2008-01-14 01:52 PM | Reply


The slave owner? That Jefferson?



Posted by 101Chairborne


Yes! Exactly. But was he a racist?

Really?
What world do you live in because that's just ridiculous.

Posted by GZlives



No, it's not ridiculous, GZ. It's very true.

Let me help you. What's rediculous is that it IS true.

Have you read the newsletters he wrote in first person?

Or are you blindly defending now?


Posted by GZlives


yep. And nowhere is anything that Ron Paul wrote is racist or anti-semitic or any of the other accusations that you propose.

Yes! Exactly. But was he a racist?

Posted by Eddie at 2008-01-14 02:43 PM | Reply

I'd have to imagine he was. Owning a black person doesn't exactly lead me to believe he thought of them as equals.
And spare me the crap about him banging a black woman. I've fucked a couple of black chicks in my life and I hate black people (that's why I came so fast...)...

Or maybe they were used to black guys who were more, how shall I delicately put it, endowed by their Creator with certain abilities and appendages taht allowed them to perfor better.

But hey, it it's just a stereotype about black guys being well endowed, then sue me, I have not clue.

Damn! I lost 10 Ameros. But I'll give RCADE credit for putting this up front.

I'd have to imagine he was. Owning a black person doesn't exactly lead me to believe he thought of them as equals.
And spare me the crap about him banging a black woman. I've fucked a couple of black chicks in my life and I hate black people (that's why I came so fast...)...

Posted by 101Chairborne


unfortunately, the culture of the time was racist in that way, but not in the way you are a racist.

I've fucked a couple of black chicks in my life and I hate black people (that's why I came so fast...)...

Posted by 101Chairborne a


That is the funniest shit posted here in months...

Shame on RCade for keeping this away for so long...

BTW: whether or not Paul is a racist an antisemite or a homophobe is as relevant to American politics as your next door neighbors beliefs on those three groups... The guy was crying about 31 votes in the NH primary... he's nothing. And his supporters are a bunch of wack job unemployed nothings...

PS Paul hates jews.

Rob, Paul will not seek a NH recount, that would be Kucinich.

Rob, Paul will not seek a NH recount

He should... here, I'll do it for him.

1, 2, 3

Done... you got your ass kicked Mr. Paul.

I hear he's polling much better in NC... expecting 7-9 votes...

Hang in there baby!!! If the United States adds 70,000 states in the next few weeks, you might reach 100 votes by the end!

Go Douchebag... I mean Paul!

You know how to count to 3! Wow, I am shocked. Didn't think you could do it.

"PS Paul hates jews."

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

That'd be an interesting notion for you to document, or provide any evidence for.

I hear he's polling much better in NC... expecting 7-9 votes...


That you know how to count to nine is amazing. What is the highest number you can count up to?

Ron Paul isn't a racist. A racist would stick a burning cross in Nelson Linder's yard. Paul wouldn't.
He would, however, toast marshmallows on said cross.

What is the highest number you can count up to?

Posted by member2586


SIXTY-NINE!!!!!!! WAHOOOOOOO!!!! Yeah!!! Titties!

I, personally think it's great that the Republican party shuns a libertarian (Paul), openly attacks a populist evangelical(Huckabee), and overtly slanders McCain, in the interest of approving their current puppet, Mitt Romney.

It's a bit of in tatters, the future of your fractured base, isn't it?


"PS Paul hates jews."

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

That'd be an interesting notion for you to document, or provide any evidence for.

Posted by BetelG


BetelG, Rob's posts are of his opinion and his opinion only. Rob has to believe that Dr. Paul is a anti-semite. He's afraid of Dr. Paul--he's afraid of the truth.

Weak NG3. I've read better (or is it worse?) from you.

That'd be an interesting notion for you to document, or provide any evidence for.

Posted by BetelG


You mean like a newsletter associated with his name railing against blacks, Jews and gays?

Nah that would be too easy...

Rob has to believe that Dr. Paul is a anti-semite. He's afraid of Dr. Paul

Yeah, after he got 8% of the vote in New Hampshire, I pissed myself and slept under the bed... he might as well have the nomination already... whatever will I do!?!?!?!

SIXTY-NINE!!!!!!! WAHOOOOOOO!!!! Yeah!!! Titties!

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


69 is something that people from any political persuation can agree on.

Yeah, after he got 8% of the vote in New Hampshire, I pissed myself and slept under the bed... he might as well have the nomination already... whatever will I do!?!?!?!

I wish I could have seen the look on your face when he more than doubled up Rudy in Iowa.

Wake me up when the guy you're pulling for this week moves ahead of Ron Paul. Nice 1% from your other "frontrunner" in NH there, Nostradamus.

www.realclearpolitics.com

SWEET MERCIFUL FUCK!!! Ron Paul is polling at 3% in South Carolina! The Revolution has begun people!! Fellow GOPers, our days are done! Change is a comin'!!! Dear God, what ever shall we do!

**sobbing** I've got no where else to go! **sobbing**

You mean like a newsletter associated with his name railing against [...] Jews [....]?

Nah that would be too easy...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Would it be? Cause I guess you could do that if it were too easy.

And his supporters are a bunch of wack job unemployed nothings...

PS Paul hates jews.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Actually, the small minority of Dr. Paul's supporters you are referring to are the industrious, innovative, entrepreneuristic inventors who took advantage of, developed and maintained the "American Dream" and whose livelihoods are hanging by a thread because of the neoconic globalist that you support Rob.

However, the majority of Dr. Paul's supporters are hard-working high wage earners who are sick and tired of paying for crap and see no return. Sick and tired of seeing the American Dream slipping away.

Nice 1% from your other "frontrunner" in NH there, Nostradamus.

At the time I was right...

It ain't my fault both Thompson and Giuliani have run the worst campaigns in the history of the GOP. At the time, of my "prediction" they were both leading in polls and Thompson hadn't even declared yet.

Wake me up when the guy you're pulling for this week moves ahead of Ron Paul.

Who McCain? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's ahead...

FINALLY PROOF THAT RON PAUL IS A RACIST! THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR!!!!

www.dynw.com

Who McCain? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's ahead...

Nice job Rob! We should take a trip to Vegas together...you would clean house.

Would it be? Cause I guess you could do that if it were too easy.

Posted by BetelG


Here's a link detailing out the newsletters

www.tnr.com

Go Ruuuuuuudddyyyyyyyy!!!!!

LOL


Go Ruuuuuuudddyyyyyyyy!!!!!


LOL

Posted by BetelG


A ron paul supporter trashing another politicians shitty numbers is pretty funny...

Rob-
re: You mean like a newsletter associated with his name railing against [...] Jews [....]?

Nah that would be too easy...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Quote him.

Rob-
I'm sure you don't intend to imply that racists backing any given Republican candidate prove the racism of the candidate, or that your presence here should imply that all Republicans are humorless trolls without a presidential candidate to piss in.

Rock on.


That'd be an interesting notion for you to document, or provide any evidence for.

Posted by BetelG


You mean like a newsletter associated with his name railing against blacks, Jews and gays?

Nah that would be too easy...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Oh yeah? Prove it!

Quote him.

Posted by BetelG


Ah... I see where you are going...

Okay, no he didn't say it... it was just his newsletter that said all those fun things about Blacks, Jews and Gays...

I'm sure if there were a Newsletter called The Daily W, and in it, it called Martin Luther King a gay pedophile, you'd give him a pass as well... right?

I'm sure you don't intend to imply that racists backing any given Republican candidate prove the racism of the candidate

If that candidates name is on the newsletters where those racists found their voice, yeah, I think they would get hammered for that.

all Republicans are humorless trolls without a presidential candidate to piss in

Ron Paul let's you do that? Is that why you're voting for him... Sick lil' monkey...

Rob-
When you quote his newsletter regarding Jews, we'll have something to talk about.

It is a weaken minded individual that points fingers at problems and offers no solutions.

When you quote his newsletter regarding Jews, we'll have something to talk about.

From the link above:

The rhetoric when it came to Jews was little better. The newsletters display an obsession with Israel; no other country is mentioned more often in the editions I saw, or with more vitriol. A 1987 issue of Paul's Investment Letter called Israel "an aggressive, national socialist state," and a 1990 newsletter discussed the "tens of thousands of well-placed friends of Israel in all countries who are willing to wok [sic] for the Mossad in their area of expertise." Of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, a newsletter said, "Whether it was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little."

Rob-
You've pinched a lot of words about Israel. But you said Paul was an "antisemite".

You've pinched a lot of words about Israel. But you said Paul was an "antisemite".

Posted by BetelG


Oh my that's right... I forgot nothing but Kenyans live in Israel...

What you said, Rob:

"PS Paul hates jews."

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-01-14 03:16 PM


So, you think any criticism of Israel reveals a hatred of Jews?


Would it be? Cause I guess you could do that if it were too easy.

Posted by BetelG

Here's a link detailing out the newsletters

www.tnr.com

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


And... which one of these articles were written by Dr. Paul? In case you missed it, Dr. Paul has deeply apoligized for allowing these articles to go out under his name. He regrets not taking a more active role in editing the articles before going out.

I share the opinion with RCade that Dr. Paul should have done something and should be heavily criticized for not paying attention.

However, it does not prove he's a racist or an anti-semite.

Would you like to try again Rob?

I just don't think you are going to be able to prove this.

So, you think any criticism of Israel reveals a hatred of Jews?

Posted by BetelG


Of Course not... My mistake... I forgot that Mossad is actually a Bolivian company. Not one Jew in the whole thing...

Oh my that's right... I forgot nothing but Kenyans live in Israel...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

What?! Is Obama a Jew then? But I thought he was a Muslim. I am confused now.

Interesting. I can't criticize the actions of a state because most of the members of that state have religion "X".

Something tells me you haven't thought this through, Rob.

Dr. Paul has deeply apoligized for allowing these articles to go out under his name.

20 years later... oh I'm sure that's sincere.


What you said, Rob:

"PS Paul hates jews."

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-01-14 03:16 PM

So, you think any criticism of Israel reveals a hatred of Jews?

Posted by BetelG


BetelG,

Of course it is, BetelG. It's an excellent neocon tool!

I can't criticize the actions of a state because most of the members of that state have religion "X".

Criticize!?!?!?! Since when did accusing them of being behind the bombings in '93 amount to criticism?!

You're fucking nuts dude...

Rob logic:

1.There are a lot of Jews in Israel.

2.If you criticize Israel you hate Jews.

20 years later... oh I'm sure that's sincere.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Damn if you do, damned if you don't.

If RP had refused to apologized, he people would say he is a racist. Apoligizing makes people call him insencere and still people call him a racist.

He is being penalized for appologizing rather than being given credit for it.

What?! Is Obama a Jew then? But I thought he was a Muslim. I am confused now.

Posted by member2586


I can see how you'd make that mistake... being that Israel is not a Jewish state...

Rob-
When did being a crackpot make one automatically a hater of Jews?

When did being a crackpot make one automatically a hater of Jews?

Posted by BetelG


When they start accusing them of attacking this country when its proven beyond all doubt that it was Muslim terrorists...

If RP had refused to apologized, he people would say he is a racist.

And they'd be right...

Apoligizing makes people call him insencere and still people call him a racist.

Because its 20 years later

He is being penalized for appologizing rather than being given credit for it.

Because its 20 years later and now he wants to be president...


20 years later... oh I'm sure that's sincere.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


Damn if you do, damned if you don't.

If RP had refused to apologized, he people would say he is a racist. Apoligizing makes people call him insencere and still people call him a racist.

He is being penalized for appologizing rather than being given credit for it.

Posted by member2586


Actually, this debate started and has been going on for 20 years.

The only reason Rob knows about it is because Dr. Paul is becoming a threat to the people who want the American Empire to stay alive as long as possible.

Ron Paul is not an anti-semite. Just ask this guy:

www.davidduke.com

"Dr. Paul is becoming a threat to the people who want the American Empire to stay alive as long as possible."

Be afraid! The black helicopters are coming for you. Only Paul can save us!

www.ronpaulexposed.com

But I was wrong. Dr. Paul did not apologise for the free speech of others. He aplogized for that going out under his name and for not paying closer attention.

Here Rob, this might help:
www.ronpaul2008.com

Actually the newsletter situation came to light over a decade ago and at that time Dr. Paul apologized and addressed it head on. Dr. Paul's role models for dozens of years.....Martin Luther King, Jr, Rosa Parks, Ghandi.

Why hardly any comments about what the NAACP rep said that has know Ron Paul for years?

Oh and I'm not unemployed and have probably made (and lost) and made again more money than most have.

OH great, it's the O'Crap'O'Meter' with his crap.


Ron Paul is not an anti-semite. Just ask this guy:

www.davidduke.com

Posted by Bill_OReilly


Bill, did you just give Duke more credibility than he deserves?

And now introducing, the Ron Paul clothing collection, for the discriminating lunatic:

fitsnews.files.wordpress.com

Pretty funny, Bill.

Bill, Joe,

What about Paul scares you the most? What would you give up if he wins?

no one can ever answer this.

Eddie, it takes absolutely NOTHING to scare Billy'O'Crap'O'Meter' so don't even try to make that argument. O'Crap'O's own shadow is horrific to him, or Chavez not being named dictator for life.

And there's RideOn again, crying as usual:

www.ronpaulexposed.com

So, you think any criticism of Israel reveals a hatred of Jews?
POSTED BY BETELG

>>>Not in a healthy objective mind, however they would like you to believe it to be true, in order to quell all criticism of Israel, and Jews at the same time.
It's a win-win for Israel and Jews.

In some countries it is illegal to criticize Jews at all, punishable by imprisonment, and fines.
Look it up, it is true.
This also happened in Communist Russia, except in Russia they were subjected to the death penalty.
Does any other group of people on earth enjoy this elevated social status?

As for Ron Paul, he is the elites worst nightmare come to life, as he will shake their financial deathgrip on the working class citizen of the USA.
Globalists do not like him, and the smear has begun.

Politics is dirty pool.

What about Paul scares you the most? What would you give up if he wins?

Posted by Eddie at 2008-01-14 04:37 PM | Reply


What if there isn't anything about him that scares people? I'm not afraid of crazy people, but I don't want one for a president.
As for waht would change? More than likely nothing because none of his saner points would be enacted.

What if there isn't anything about him that scares people? I'm not afraid of crazy people, but I don't want one for a president.
As for waht would change? More than likely nothing because none of his saner points would be enacted.

Posted by 101Chairborne


Then don't vote for the crazy ones.

However, for us to take America back, vote for Dr. Paul!!!

Again, what is it about Dr. Paul that scares you?

If you don't want to answer, that's ok. We will just agree that you are afraid and don't want to talk about it.

As for waht would change? More than likely nothing because none of his saner points would be enacted.

Posted by 101Chairborne


Let's get rid of the Federal Reserve. After that, the IRS becomes unnecessary. The Federal income tax pays the interest on the Debt. Our children and our children's children will be paying back the debt.

101, do you know what the Federal Reserve is? I dare you to answer.

"What about Paul scares you the most?"

There's no need to direct that question at me. I have supported Ron Paul throughout the campaign but I have to admit the recent newsletter scandal has me thinking twice. Overall I still find his ideas more appealing than the mainstream candidates.

But that doesn't mean that the straight jacket link wasn't funny. Even as a Paul supporter I can recognize that many of his fans are complete nutjobs.

Eddie,
Your assumption is assinine. Nothing about Paul scares me. His crazy proposals, his sordid past, his crazy look, his crazy reactions, his off the wall answers, and especially his single digit poling...None of it scares me.
I simply don't like him or the vast majority of what he says. If you find that hard to believe then I'd have to say that explains quite a bit about your mental state and why you are a Pauliac.

"We will just agree that you are afraid and don't want to talk about it. "

Nobody is afraid of Ron Paul, at least not as much as Ron Paul and his paranoid followers are afraid of black helicopters/UN/Illuminati/
Trilateral Commission/Zionists....

"his crazy look"

www.ronpaulexposed.com

But that doesn't mean that the straight jacket link wasn't funny. Even as a Paul supporter I can recognize that many of his fans are complete nutjobs.

Posted by JOE


I know there are some wacky characters out there who support Ron Paul, but their numbers are in the minority. They seem a large number because they are the most vocal, most energetic, and have been screaming the same things for 20, 30 years.

Bill seems to be a little "Crazy" about this Ron Paul thing. Seems that he is acting like the small number of Ron Paul supporters referred to earlier. Give 'em enough rope, they'll hang themselves.


"We will just agree that you are afraid and don't want to talk about it. "

Nobody is afraid of Ron Paul, at least not as much as Ron Paul and his paranoid followers are afraid of black helicopters/UN/Illuminati/
Trilateral Commission/Zionists....

Posted by Bill_OReilly



Nope, You're a liar. Why are you making fun of him? People tend to make fun when they are afraid.


and people are afraid of things they don't understand.

A Paultard calls someone else crazy. That's rich.

www.ronpaulexposed.com

You bore me Bill.

Billy'O'Crap'O'Meter' always hangs himself, that's why his fellow DR lefties gave him his O'Crap'O'Meter' name and that's a FACT (oh, he'll deny it but it's a TRUE FACT).

"Nope, You're a liar"


No I'm not. He *is* afraid of the Trilateral Commission.

"This 1978 newsletter says the Trilateral Commission is "no longer known only by those who are knowledgeable about international conspiracies, but is routinely mentioned in the daily news."

A 1986 newsletter names Jeane Kirkpatrick and George Will as "two of our enemies" and notes their membership in the Trilateral Commission."

midtopia.blogspot.com

You're a liar ride_on.

If Mr. Paul were to obtain removal of the Aryan Brotherhood, KKK, and members of like organizations from his supporters, he would find his support reduced from 3% to 0.3%.

By the way Mr. Iraqbukkake, interesting monicker. Have you spent any time in Japan, and engaged in the practice you advertise? Are what are supposedly such group perversions punishing women another cultish pleasure in which Paul supporters indulge themselves. Is it a psychosexual thing then? Huh. Well, I suppose that it's to each his own on how you get your kicks, or should I more appropriately say licks. Sex self-taught for Paul supporters. Got it.

"The [Ron Paul]newsletters are chock-full of shopworn conspiracies, reflecting Paul's obsession with the "industrial-banking-political elite" and promoting his distrust of a federally regulated monetary system utilizing paper bills. They contain frequent and bristling references to the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, and the Council on Foreign Relations--organizations that conspiracy theorists have long accused of seeking world domination. In 1978, a newsletter blamed David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, and "fascist-oriented, international banking and business interests" for the Panama Canal Treaty, which it called "one of the saddest events in the history of the United States." A 1988 newsletter cited a doctor who believed that AIDS was created in a World Health Organization laboratory in Fort Detrick, Maryland. In addition, Ron Paul & Associates sold a video about Waco produced by "patriotic Indiana lawyer Linda Thompson"--as one of the newsletters called her--who maintained that Waco was a conspiracy to kill ATF agents who had previously worked for President Clinton as bodyguards. As with many of the more outlandish theories the newsletters cited over the years, the video received a qualified endorsement: "I can't vouch for every single judgment by the narrator, but the film does show the depths of government perfidy, and the national police's tricks and crimes," the newsletter said, adding, "Send your check for $24.95 to our Houston office, or charge the tape to your credit card at 1-800-RON-PAUL."

Not to change the subject, but Bill, do you believe the same things you did in 1976?

Posted by Eddie at 2008-01-14 04:18 PM

The only reason Rob knows about it is because Dr. Paul is becoming a threat to the people who want the American Empire to stay alive as long as possible.

Let me get this straight. Ron Paul is an avowed anti-American, who wants to take actions adverse to American interests?

Ron Paul wants to destroy the American Empire, so-called, destroy our interests, reduce our prosperity? Is this guy some sort of agent for conspirators against America? Is he a mole, boring from within? In whose interests is this renegade, Mr. Paul, operating? Is he being paid off, or is he just an anti-American idologue, a nut afflicted by anomie? What is his affiliation, if any?

Is he a partner with the neo-Nazi world socialists in trying to weaken our America? That would explain the fringe groups that support him in the United States. How deep is his cover? It's been demonstrated and acknowledged that he's anti-American. But why?

Is he a nihilist or does he have a positive program in behalf of some foreign interests? He is a shady guy. He disguises the nefarious nature of his activities by displaying them in plain sight and trying to normalize his cupidity. He is trying to attain his evil anti-American ends. This creep should be exposed and his money sources identified. Where is he getting his foreign money? Hillary gets some from China? But what enemies of America are supporting this anti-American, Ron Paul? Is Mr. Paul a simpering Islamosymp, a Russosymp, a Chinasymp? Ron Paul wants to destroy the "American Empire." In whose service and at whose behest?

Ron Paul wants to destroy the American Empire. Hmm. Real patriotic Americans will oppose this creep.

No, Joe, but Ron Paul's statements are much more current than 1976, and there is no evidence that he's changed his beliefs.

Chairpoodle and FOX news agree!
The only difference is that FOX is a corporate business. They know they are lying, they do it for money.
Chairpoodle actually believes his own bullshit.
Bwaahaahaa!

Still talking crazy in 2004.

"So who are these shadowy forces who are plotting to dismantle our Constitution and surrender our sovereignty to a one-world government? Paul explained, in a 2004 interview:"

"They're certainly not known to a lot of people; it's actually what they're doing. But then again, it's not absolute secrecy. If you look around you can usually get the information. There was a time when nobody even knew who was a member of the CFR or the Trilateral Commission. I think it's a bad sign that they're not as secret as they used to be. They're bolder now. But there is an agenda. They're behind the scenes in many way--very secretive.

"Ron Paul's statements"
He never wrote anything..... BillyBoy.
That's how slander works, they twist public opinion with the 7 degrees to Kevin Bacon theory.

"He never wrote anything..... BillyBoy.
That's how slander works, "

Those statements are from his newsletters and his interviews. Deal with it.

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

Ron Paul is not a racist. When this first came out about I kinda laughed about it and thought to myself "I guess theyre trying to help him in south carolina LOL" no seriously. Its all BS but we knew that from the beginning.

Jeff,

How long after Ron Paul discovered these statements did he move to cut himself off from that group?

Did the statement(s) in question all happen in one newsletter, or over multiple newsletters?

Ron Paul may also not be a certified obstetrician and gynecologist. It seems that he is not listed as a "certified specialist." Why? Is he parading around in false colors there also, representing himself as something that he is not because it has some cachet?

Is he "parsing" by saying he is a "practicing ob/gyn," practicing but one who has no specialized training in that specialty, no residency? Just asking?

BILL, there are no interviews with him using that language. Those articles were written by a ghost writer. They were not his words. Since you claim there are "interviews" of him saying those things. Please provide us with a link to such interview(s).

Why wuld Mr. Paul's newsletters provide such a continuing voice for identified racists over such a period of time? Self-assembly?

"Did the statement(s) in question all happen in one newsletter, or over multiple newsletters?"

Multiple newsletters over a 20 year period. If he didn't actually write them himself, he sure is stupid for letting people write that in his name. Too stupid to be President.

"BILL, there are no interviews with him using that language. Those articles were written by a ghost writer. They were not his words. Since you claim there are "interviews" of him saying those things. Please provide us with a link to such interview(s)."

Sure.

www.illuminati-news.com

Trolls are frisky today.

Crazy people calling a guy crazy citing other crazy people who are critiquing other crazy people who've already been publicly disavowed for being crazy people ... its a philosophical paradox wrapped in a riddle using a conundrum as a pillow.

Or its just retarded...either way, teaching monkeys to dance is a much better use of energy than fighting spam with only the power of reason.

LOL Bill I told you to provide me with a link with racially disparaging remarks. I skimmed through the interview and found nothing of the sort. So perhaps you can try again or point to what you found as "racist" in that interview.

"Bill I told you to provide me with a link with racially disparaging remarks. "

No you didn't. I never said all those comments came from interviews. I said "newsletters and interviews". Specifically the interview was in regards to his conspiracist views on the Trilateral Commission.

"Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist"

20 years!
But you drudge trolls know more than NAACP President Nelson Linder.
Hahaha.

Keep practicing your pirouettes ladies.

In any event, if the "Ron Paul Newsletter" said those things, and they did, the publisher of the newsletter has to take responsibility for it. The buck stops with him.

Apparently, Ron Paul never read the "Ron Paul Newsletter" or "Ron Paul Survival Guide", etc. At best, it makes him look like an idiot.

I see little to no difference between Rudy, McCain, Romney, Gulliani as opposed to any democrat.

I'm finished voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

The RNC called me and before she could even begin I told her to save her breath I wasn't about to donate a damn dime to a bunch of liberals trying to pass themselves off as conservatives in the republican party.

I'll be voting Ron Paul.

I hope Ron will be on the primary ballot in Texas.
Never having voted in a primary, I will vote for him.

Ron Paul did not vote for the Iraq lie.

"Ron Paul (R-Texas)"
usliberals.about.com

I know a lot more than 8 other people in North Carolina besides myself who will be voting for Paul.

Beats voting for Larousche again.

Billy'O'Crap'O'Meter' is AGAINST Ron Paul. That would drive about 98% of the people familiar with the O'Crap'O'Meter' to make certain that......





















they vote for Ron Paul. Thanks O'Crap'O'.

Ride_On, do you realize how lame the nicknames you come with are? I mean, do you have any idea how not funny you are? If you are beyond about 5th grade, you oughta be ashamed of yourself.

Be careful, Monte. You might cause RideOn to start crying again.

www.ronpaulexposed.com

Monte, I didn't come up with the O'Crap'O'Meter' name. Those on the DR left did.....but, if I had I would claim it because it is so accurate [that's why a don't (tm) it anymore].

"Those on the DR left did..."

Note that this asshole can't cite a single post where anybody other than himself used that name. And he's too chicken to try.

"Monte, I didn't come up with the O'Crap'O'Meter' name. Those on the DR left did....."

I have been a regular visitor/poster here since June, 2005.

The first time I have ever seen the phrase "O'Crap'O'Meter'" was in a ride_on post.

(
Google search)

Unless ride_on would care to present a link to the "DR left" (whoever that person is) coining that phrase.

Hans

You do the link professor.....keep looking.....take as long as it takes.

"You do the link professor.....keep looking.....take as long as it takes."

The burden of proof is on you, Chicken.

"You do the link professor..."

Apparently, some people cannot read a link when it is provided:

(
Google search)

Hint: Click on the words Google search.

Perhaps now ride_on can provide a link to the "DR left" (whoever that person is) coining the phrase "O'Crap'O'Meter'."

Or, perhaps he can't.

Hans

You're a crapo'meter
No, you're a crapo'meter
No I'm not, you are
No, you are
I said it first
No, I said it first

It's so comforting sometimes after having to use your brain all day to come blog in a place where you don't have to think anymore...just read mind numbing insults...one after the other.....one after the other...ahhhhhh....nodding off now...lulled to sleep....ahhhhh

"just read mind numbing insults...one after the other.."

And all coming from one troll, RideOn.

I said you go back and look further professor and YOU find it.....keep looking. I continued the name after I saw it posted by others one evening. You'll figure it out....cause you smart!

"I continued the name after I saw it posted by others one evening. "

Sure, liar.

"I said you go back and look further professor and YOU find it....."

I did:

(
Google search)

Hint: Click on the words Google search

I went "back."

That's all there is.

Unless you have something else.

Doubt it.

Hans

YOU FIND IT....you so smart!!!

"I continued the name after I saw it posted by others one evening. "

Who?

When?

What thread?

My search (
Google search) shows nothing of the sort.

Hans

Isn't it about time for Ride to accuse Hans of revealing personal info about A- hole again?

"YOU FIND IT...."

Find what?

My search (
Google search) shows nothing of the sort.

Hans

"Unless you have something else."

He doesn't, because there isn't anything else. Case closed.

"Isn't it about time for Ride to accuse Hans of revealing personal info about A- hole again?"

Newsworthy or Funny Flag.

Damn, Reinheitsgebot, now I'm confused!

Hans

....and now puppets I command thee, continue to.....DANCE. ROFLMAO.

"...but it was the DR left that came up with it."

I have been a regular visitor/poster here since June, 2005.

The first time I have ever seen the phrase "O'Crap'O'Meter'" was in a ride_on post.

(
Google search)

Unless ride_on would care to present a link to the "DR left" (whoever that person is) coining that phrase.

Hans

.........and have your lives consumed by any and all posts that I have ever made. ROFLMAO. Precious I tells ya....just too precious.

You dance good.....now KEEP DANCING.....follow the puppet masters strings. Good boy. ROFLMAO.

"He doesn't, because there isn't anything else. Case closed."

Bill, you're right. He doesn't have anything else.

Case closed.

(Good eye!)

Hans

I pull the string....YOU CONTINUE TO DANCE. Good Boy!!! ROFLMAO.

Hans,

I have been posting here for quite a long time now and I have only seen this "Ocrap..." stuff come from rideon and Rex crowd.

Afraid their delusional lies is catching up to them.

"Afraid their delusional lies is catching up to them."

Moneywar... that certainly appears to be the case.

Hans

....and that the old dancers continue to dance as well. NOW, DANCE somes more eye tells ya....

Newsworthy or Funny Flag.

Damn, Reinheitsgebot, now I'm confused!

Hans


Hans, either or. This O'Crap'O'Meter surely came from the same fertile mind that gave us DanniDrivel(tm).

NOPE, if it had I'd be constantly be putting a (tm) behind it. The DanniDrivel(tm) GIVES the Danni drivel and MOST know that.

I wonder who is sore that the SpudDud(tm) can't post? ROFLMAO

See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.

Ride on

"This O'Crap'O'Meter surely came from the same fertile mind that gave us DanniDrivel(tm)."

Agreed.

The bonus is to watch as that "fertile mind" dances to our tune... while claiming it as her own.

Hans

Wot is wrong?

Spud says defend this poor potato to the friends of Spudish one.

DUMSPUD

"I called O'reilly, 'O'cocksmoker', get it correct."

Thanks for that (entirely believable) correction, Rex.

Too bad you're not correct on other things.

Hans

This just in: Ron Paul is still nuts!

developing...

Hans, remember the truce, don't break the pact my friend.

slow night at the PWZ?

RON PAUL...in not a racisit ...but he is an ISOLATIONIST

Poor ole' Hans...can never be gracious enough to give full credit when credit is due. Salute to the professor of all.

So now we have MoneyWar saying he has seen Crap'O' (in conflict with what the professor has said) other than from Ride_on and then they are getting wrong what REX calls the O'person. What else will the all knowing professor(s) be found to be wrong about..............

Is he wrong about Rex....has he been lying about what he claims Rex has done and hasn't done..........

"Hans, remember the truce, don't break the pact my friend."

Never, my friend.

Hans

Called, not calls. I don't have issues with Oreilly anymore.

.......now go spend hours searching and repeating those things you have claimed about REX, prove all those nasty things you've said about REX ole' Hansy. Now follow the string, jump with the string......that'll keep ya busy for awhile....and don't slip up.....you've lied and misrepresented something of what you've said about REX here on the DR (and you know it....just be careful to pick out the correct items vs your lies).

Yes, Hans don't repeat the lies you have told about REX, especially not while he is right here.....that is not your style (not to his face at least).

"Called, not calls. I don't have issues with Oreilly anymore."

Rex, that's known as evolution.

Kudos.

Hans

"Hans don't repeat the lies you have told about REX"

Remember the little grade school asshole on the playground that was always trying to start fights and would make up shit to accomplish it?

He would go to little Johnny and tell him that Bobby called him a clown. Then he would go to little Bobby and tell him that Johnny called him a retard.

That's RideOn, in a nutshell.

"Yes, Hans don't repeat the lies you have told about REX, especially not while he is right here....."

No doubt Rex (and everyone else here) would enjoy a link to those "lies."

Here's my
Drudge User Blog.

Dazzle us.

Hans

Rex will you ever open up the PWZ for everyone or will it remain underground for all time?

"That's RideOn, in a nutshell."

Bill, I am curious to see if anyone on the right side of the aisle defends his "tactics."

I seriously doubt it.

Hans

You were spewing stuff about Rex the other night.....crying and whining that he lied about you.....that he apologized....but, then he told another lie about you after that......so which is it Hansy.....you said Rex lied, that he sent you emails, etc. DID HE OR DIDN'T HE? Fess up now Hansy! Oh and dance some more for us tonight.

"Bill, I am curious to see if anyone on the right side of the aisle defends his "tactics."

Most of the DR Right have been calling him an asshole, a troll, etc., in the last few days.

LOL, that gets a FF for you O'Crap'O'Meter'

You were spewing stuff about Rex the other night.....crying and whining that he lied about you.....that he apologized....but, then he told another lie about you after that......so which is it Hansy.....you said Rex lied, that he sent you emails, etc. DID HE OR DIDN'T HE? Fess up now Hansy! Oh and dance some more for us tonight.

Posted by ride_on at 2008-01-14 10:55 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Ride, that was danforth. Do try to keep your facts straight.

Rex, that's known as evolution.

Kudos.

Hans

Posted by Hans at 2008-01-14 10:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hey look, a compliment for you from the all powerful Hansy. You worked hard for it (even though he's been posting that you emailed him crap that he was complaining about). He is praising (patronizing) you. Congrats.

"You were spewing stuff about Rex the other night.....crying and whining that he lied about you.....that he apologized....but, then he told another lie about you after that......so which is it Hansy.....you said Rex lied, that he sent you emails, etc. DID HE OR DIDN'T HE? Fess up now Hansy! Oh and dance some more for us tonight."

Here's my
Drudge User Blog.

Please provide me and Rex (and everyone else) with a link to where I said Rex lied ("you said Rex lied, that he sent you emails, etc.").

Dazzle us.

Hans

In other words you have raised yourself through evolution to the high status of......yep....you guessed it Rex....all the way to the status of a ***Hans***. Congrats.

oh yeah, with Danforth as your proxy....hehehe.

Damn, I have to admit it's fun watching Tamp_On get caught in a lie, and then try dance around it.

And yeah, Rex has repeatedly lied about me, claiming an incident never happened after apologizing to me about it. I don't really give a fuck, except when Rex tries to pretend he's "changed". Then the chuckling just...takes over. Forgive me.
So Tamp_On, where's your link to prove your claims?

REX is ASSHAMMER....well ASSHAMMER....good to meet you....you are a legend/ghost around here....BILL O...HANS...LISA...LARRY...ALEX
...SPUD...BOYD...just to name a few....have been holding regular witch (REX HUNTS) hunts in your name...boy when some new guy comes on...this DR crew comes out of the wood work to hunt him down and make him confess he is a REX....you must be proud to cause so much fear and choas around DR....this DR gang is really scared of you....you better watch out for BILLY BOY though....he is a FLAGG-IT....so if you do not want a suspension stay away from him


well its good to see that you are around....im sure some are pissing their pants.... look forward in debating a thread one day

I don't think so Judas....he looks to have perhaps taken the pills that have given him a medical castration.

DannyBoy, I don't need to provide a link....you just kind of stated some of the stuff you have been spewing about REX. Better yet, have Hansy provide you with a link. ROFLMAO. DannyBoy, dance some more....you usually do start to dance on cue.

Judas, don't be a fool. Rex is easy to identify, for those of use who've been around a while. His posts often revolve around fecal matter, whether he's offering to shit on Hillary Clinton's chest (for under thirteen dollars!) or blogging about his latest crap.

"look forward in debating a thread one day"

You'll let us know when you're ready, won't you? We wouldn't want to rush you.

"where's your link to prove your claims?"

Danforth, that's the proverbial question... to which there will never be an answer.

Hans

I thought this was HANSY post about REX again, until I got the the Danforth signature at the end.

"I don't need to provide a link."

Translation: I have no link, and no proof, so I'll try to tread water while insulting everyone who's caught me.

Thanks, Tamp_On. You never cease to embarrass yourself. LOTS of fun to watch.

HANS does the links.....he's still looking for it.....keep looking Hansy, you'll find it.....cause you is smart, real smart. Oh yeah, you are doing a good job continuing the dance. Now, dance one more time. ROFLMAO.

.......and there will be no end to HANSY dancing.....I barely need to move the string and boop....Hans is dancing yet again. ROFLMAO.

"Translation: I have no link, and no proof, so I'll try to tread water while insulting everyone who's caught me."

Danforth, that pretty much encompasses it.

Good eye.

Hans

"Thanks, Tamp_On. You never cease to embarrass yourself. LOTS of fun to watch."

You know, "Tamp_On" was the nickname given to him by the DR Right. That's a FACT.

You know, "Tamp_On" was the nickname given to him by the DR Right. That's a FACT.

Posted by Bill_OReilly at 2008-01-14 11:43 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Wide-on was also bequeathed to him by a fighty-righty. You can look it up.

"Wide-on was also bequeathed to him by a fighty-righty. You can look it up."

Hard_on for his tighty-righties is another one.

Affectionately bestowed by his rightwing brethren.

That's also a fact.

No doubt Tamp_On/Wide_On/Hard_On is frantically searching for those elusive links proving this.

He's smart... he can do it!

Hans

"You know, "Tamp_On" was the nickname given to him by the DR Right. That's a FACT.'

BillO, you're a liar!!!

Also, Ride_A_Hard_on was given to him by the DR Right. Fact!

"Also, Ride_A_Hard_on was given to him by the DR Right. Fact!"

i remember the nic name Ride_A_Hard_on. boy that was a long time ago.

Judas

HANS...im glad your a fan of mine

You fucking homos are pissing me off.

I oughta kick the shit out of each and every one of you.



Sincerely,


Frank Cotton

To all you homos, and Frank Cotton.
Ron Paul would tell you,
Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups.

Conservatives and libertarians should fight back and challenge the myth that collectivist liberals care more about racism. Modern liberalism, however well intentioned, is a byproduct of the same collectivist thinking that characterizes racism. The continued insistence on group thinking only inflames racial tensions.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.
Dr. Ron Paul

Jeffn,

Nice Ron Paul excerpt.

He hit the nail right on the head.

Once again the Democrats find a nut case and try to push him forward as head of the Republican Party. Since he is fading they are now pushing John McCain III again. All you Paulians, believing anything, why don't you get free rides on his space ship? If he charges, get a job on McCain's ranch picking tomatoes for $50/hour.

Can we all, at least most of us, agree that he's a freaking weirdo?

Can we all, at least most of us, agree that he's a freaking weirdo?

Can we all, at least most of us, agree that he's a freaking weirdo?

Can we all, at least most of us, agree that he's a freaking weirdo?

What is wierd is your computer acting up sending four mesages when one would have sufficed.

Now, we can't all agree he is a wierdo 'cause he ain't a wierdo. I will only write it once.

I'd have to agree that Ron Paul is not all there, but there is no question that Dennis Kucinich has him beat in the "tin-foil hat" department. They will both likely be remembered fondly as fringe nut jobs in 20 years, much like Bella Abzug. Or Al Gore.

So let me get this straight. Ron Paul is not a racist yet the media wants us to beleive that Hillary Clinton is. I dont get it.

So let me get this straight. Ron Paul is not a racist yet the media wants us to beleive that Hillary Clinton is. I dont get it.

So let me get this straight. Ron Paul is not a racist yet the media wants us to beleive that Hillary Clinton is. I dont get it.

Stuart46 said; "...yet the media wants us to beleive that Hillary Clinton is (racist)."

No, Stuart. It's Obama's campaign that wants you to believe it. That's the beauty of it. This Hillary/Barak thing is the gift that will keep on giving for the next 6 months. The rest of us can sit over here on the couch, sipping our Mountain Dews, and watching while the salamander eats its tail...

sorry about the triple post my computer is acting werid today

Yes, we can all agree that Ride_On is a freaking weirdo.

(And a plagarist - "You dance good.....now KEEP DANCING.....follow the puppet masters strings. Good boy. ROFLMAO.

Posted by ride_on at 2008-01-14 09:33 PM" - that's 101's, and Ride_On is blatantly stealing it. What a fucktard.)

stuart46 , it must be a vast right wing conspiracy.

Seriously, though I am not a Hillary fan I think this has been blown out of proportion. What Bill and Hillary are saying is that Obama is all talk, but talk doesn't equate to change, that's all. Agree with it, or disagree with it, but to call racist is silly. I think the Obama campaign waited to much to distance himself from this mess. The reason why people took Obama seriously was precisely because he did not play the victim card. But he is in danger now if this continues.

Barak maybe benefitting from this but I still think the media is presenter her as a racist while ignoring her past 35 + years of fighting for equal rights. I am sure this fight sells way better then if the main stream tried to present the facts. But there I go again excepting the new media outlets to present all the facts. Even Tim Russert on Sundays Meet the Press refused to show the full Bill Clinton clip in regards to the fairytale comment. How could he the interview would have been over had he showed the whole thing.

Member2586 said: "The reason why people took Obama seriously was precisely because he did not play the victim card. But he is in danger now if this continues.'

You bring up an excellent point, Member.

Throwing the word "fucktard" around as you have in your post above Monty.....that was where the DeadPotato started his fall into shame.....

Today Tuesday the Jan 15, 2008. Ex president Clinton was on Al Sharpton program defending himself. He said his grandfather owned a food store and it was before food stamps, so his grandfather would give blacks food on credit.

"This is a racist issue".

Why....
Think for a second this sentence " Before food stamps". That means we now all depend on food stamps right?


And his supporters are a bunch of wack job unemployed nothings...


I support Ron Paul.

I'm not a whack job, and I make a great living at job. But hey, facts are just a nuisance to a fella of your caliber, eh.

It is easy to say Dr Paul is a "whackjob" .

But, I have not seen one person post something he said that was "whacko".

All of the postings I see quoting Dr. Ron Paul are well thought out and very coherent. I don't always agree with what he is saying but I have seen nothing Whacko yet.

There are a multitude of web pages dedicated to the "whacko" ravings of Bush & Co.


It is easy to say Dr Paul is a "whackjob" .

But, I have not seen one person post something he said that was "whacko".

All of the postings I see quoting Dr. Ron Paul are well thought out and very coherent. I don't always agree with what he is saying but I have seen nothing Whacko yet.

There are a multitude of web pages dedicated to the "whacko" ravings of Bush & Co.

Posted by donnerboy



Then why do you say he's a "Whackjob"?

Is it from hearing enough people say that?

Truely, I think that some say that because they are afraid of the huge following that Ron Paul has.

Ron Paul has awakened 10% of the country and has converted apathic individuals into assertive voters!

Yes, some people are afraid of that.

But, I have not seen one person post something he said that was "whacko".

"Unlike Nazi Germany, which forcibly sent millions to the gas chambers (as well as forcing abortion and sterilization upon many more), the new regime (an America with legalized abortion) has enlisted the assistance of millions of people to act as its agents in carrying out a program of mass murder." -- Ron Paul
www.l4l.org

Saying that those who perform and have abortions even in the first trimester are mass murderers to be compared with the Nazis, is about nutty as it gets.

Bowa,

Actually, you are wrong. Nutty is having sex, getting pregnant, and then deciding you don't want the baby!

Nazis didn't want the Jews -- Mother doesn't want a baby...

Why is this comment nutty?

Taking a human life and not calling it murder is nutty in my opinion.

This comment is un-popular or politically incorrect and happens to be the truth. It's not Wacko!

Since when is telling truth being wacko? There is a very large number of people who believe this way.

BTW, in case you didn't know it, he delivered over 4000 babies, I think he knows a little about the subject.

Why is this comment nutty?

Because it cheapens and distorts the argument in a reprehensible way. There is no valid comparison between the atrocities of the "Nazis" and a woman who gets pregnant and then chooses to terminate the pregnancy a few days later.

I am a catholic and am personally pro-life. But as an American citizen wo believes in secular government, I am a pro-choice with restrictions Republican and believe that under the construct of our secular-based laws, personhood begins at viability -- that point in the pregnancy in which the fetus becomes a completely separate and distinct entity with a reasonable expectation of survival outside the womb. As a result, I support legal birth control, the "morning after pill" and first trimester abortions. I support parental and spousal notification. I think all abortions after viability should be outlawed except in those rare cases where they are necessary to save the life (not health) of the mother.

Since when is telling truth being wacko? There is a very large number of people who believe this way

Since when does a large number of people believing a certain way = "the truth". Many more people in this nation agree with my position that falls between the views of Ron Paul that all abortion is murder, and that of many democrats who believe that there should be legal abortion on demand up to birth. So by your "populism=truth" argument, the "pro-choice with restrictions" position is the truth, and Ron Paul's is not.

Actually, you are wrong. Nutty is having sex, getting pregnant, and then deciding you don't want the baby!

That's not nutty, that seems a fairly normal human response -- especially say if the girl is 16 in High School and she got pregnant during some one night stand. For a woman in that position to take the "morning after pill" or get a 1st term abortion, and have Ron Paul call her a murderer and compare her to nazis is just ludicrous.

Bottom line is that the idea that "personhood" begins at conception is a religious construct, not a secularly defensible one in my view.. Some religions for example, believe that the soul doesn't enter the body for at least 30 days after conception. And therefore is not a human being until then. On the other hand, the idea that a woman's right to choose an abortion should not be hindered throughout the pregnancy is also not secularly defensible -- a few inches of birth canal shouldn't define personhood. "Viability" should. Because if a woman chooses to abort a viable baby, she is not just choosing to expel a clump of cells wholly dependent on her for survival...but she is killing a baby that could as easily be born and survive as a separate human life without her.

In my view, No woman, no person should be allowed to have that kind of legal power to kill another human being.

Since when does a large number of people believing a certain way = "the truth". Many more people in this nation agree with my position that falls between the views of Ron Paul that all abortion is murder,

And that's the truth to those people. In politics, the truth is defined by the majority. That's my point. You tried to distort it.

That's not nutty, that seems a fairly normal human response -- especially say if the girl is 16 in High School and she got pregnant during some one night stand. For a woman in that position to take the "morning after pill" or get a 1st term abortion, and have Ron Paul call her a murderer and compare her to nazis is just ludicrous.

You have your opinion...

But, in an after-thought, I think that you are confusing Nutty or Wacko with Outragious.

Dr. Paul is operating in a mode of trying to get as much attention as he can without crossing that fine line. If he were to be politically correct, he would never be noticed, but to say outragious things, he is true-to-form.

I would love to see Dr. Paul become President, define his foreign policy and then interface with world leaders in the same outragious and obnoxious manner. There is way too much political speech.

Ever watch John Edwards try to talk? The man can't talk!!! He makes absolutely no sense because his responses are too canned and his phrases don't fit together. Most of his candid responses... take... for... e v e r... because he's thinking all the time.

John Edwards can't speak, can't think and certainly can't lead.

See the difference?

Dr. Paul has the ability to lead more so than any of the candidates or Presidents of recent past. Lsat good leader we had was Reagan and then Kennedy before him.

And that's the truth to those people. In politics, the truth is defined by the majority. That's my point. You tried to distort it.

Eddie, I didn't distort anything. You asked me if I thought Ron Paul was nuts and I told you why I did.

You told me that Ron Paul was telling "the truth" and argued that his view is "truth" in part because "There is a very large number of people who believe this way." I pointed out how ludicrous this contention is.

I also disagree with your premise that the "the truth is defined by the majority". Truth is not dependent on the beliefs of the mob. Maybe sometimes it seems so, but eventually fact and reality win out.

At any rate, Ron Paul was not telling the unequivocal truth, he was giving his opinion. An opinion that is grounded in religious beliefs about when personhood begins, rather then secular law. It is certainly not a "fact" that a women taking the morning after pill is a murderer that should be compared with nazis killing millions of jews in the holocaust. To say that is a fair comparison as Ron Paul does, is just nuts.

And that's the truth to those people. In politics, the truth is defined by the majority. That's my point. You tried to distort it.

Eddie, I didn't distort anything. You asked me if I thought Ron Paul was nuts and I told you why I did.

You told me that Ron Paul was telling "the truth" and argued that his view is "truth" in part because "There is a very large number of people who believe this way." I pointed out how ludicrous this contention is.

I also disagree with your premise that the "the truth is defined by the majority". Truth is not dependent on the beliefs of the mob. Maybe sometimes it seems so, but eventually fact and reality win out.

At any rate, Ron Paul was not telling the unequivocal truth, he was giving his opinion. An opinion that is grounded in religious beliefs about when personhood begins, rather then secular law. It is certainly not a "fact" that a women taking the morning after pill is a murderer that should be compared with nazis killing millions of jews in the holocaust. To say that is a fair comparison as Ron Paul does, is just nuts.

Dr. Paul is operating in a mode of trying to get as much attention as he can without crossing that fine line. If he were to be politically correct, he would never be noticed, but to say outragious things, he is true-to-form.

Eddie, If he needs to say outrageous things that he doesn't really believe in just to get noticed then he has no business even being a congressman much less a President.

The problem is Eddie, that he does believe in the things he is saying -- and not only are they unrealistic and unworkable but dangerous.

Frankly, I think the guy is crazy. He wants to return the nation to a pre-civil war state, in which the federal government was so weak, and the state governemnts so powerful that the whole concept of a United States was threatened. To people like Ron Paul, Abraham Lincoln will always be public enemy #1
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I support fiscal conservatism and would like to see a less intrusive government at all levels. But, what Ron paul wants is to weaken the federal government to the point it would be injurious to this nation.

Eddie, I didn't distort anything.

The truth argument? Whatever... You really need to understand the dynamics of politics. You missed the point.. move on.

At any rate, Ron Paul was not telling the unequivocal truth, he was giving his opinion.

Ok! OK! Opinion does not equal the truth, however it does in Politics. You must understand this. Otherwise you are just contradicting.


It is certainly not a "fact" that a women taking the morning after pill is a murderer that should be compared with nazis killing millions of jews in the holocaust. To say that is a fair comparison as Ron Paul does, is just nuts.


I think you may have missed my Outragious comparison? You don't want to accept that? That's ok.

So, according to you, mass killing of babies is not equal to mass killing of Jews. Comeon, thin a little bit.

The statement is politically incorrect. It's Outragious. It's offensive.

So let me ask you a question. What if Ron Paul became President? Would you support him? Or would you try and vote in Congressmen who would work against him?

The fact is that Dr. Paul has converted many smart, enthusiastic young and older apathetic Americans who, before, thought they were powerless. Dr. Paul gave us a voice. Gave us a platform to speak out against the absolute wrong drection Bush and his neoconic following is taking us.

I don't really care that much about the abortion issue. Personally, I would never allow an abortion in my family. If my daughter gets pregnant, despite the fact that she knows the consequenses of sex, then she will bring the baby to full term and take care of that baby. And so will the father!!! Of course, under the current law, she can have an abortion anyway, without my consent. So, there's the State telling me how to raise my child!!



Dr. Paul will not win this race, mostly because of his age, but he has started something that will continue after he's gone.

Ron Paul's not a racist. He had a ghostwriter!

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Eddie, If he needs to say outrageous things that he doesn't really believe in just to get noticed then he has no business even being a congressman much less a President.

I'm sorry. What did you say?

Congressmen say outragious things all the time!

Presidents used to but not so much anymore.

Again, have you ever watched Kerry or Edwards talk?

They are benign and impotent.

The funny thing about this argument is that people say that Dr. Paul is a Libertarian (who are Pro-Choice)

"Again, have you ever watched Kerry or Edwards talk?

They are benign and impotent."

Yeah, but at least they're not insane.
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Bill with hands cupped over ears and red faced...

"The world is insane, the world is insane, the world is insane. "

Bill, you are the plucky comic relief on this forum. Thanks for the laugh.

The fact is that Dr. Paul has converted many smart, enthusiastic young and older apathetic Americans who, before, thought they were powerless. Dr. Paul gave us a voice. Gave us a platform to speak out against the absolute wrong direction Bush and his neoconic following is taking us.

Eddie, the platform has always been there. Ron Paul's ideas aren't even unique -- they've been around for many years. From your comment, it sounds like your hatred of Bush has played just as much of a role as Ron Paul has in converting you to his Libertarianism/uber-federalism

Eddie, the platform has always been there. Ron Paul's ideas aren't even unique -- they've been around for many years. From your comment, it sounds like your hatred of Bush has played just as much of a role as Ron Paul has in converting you to his Libertarianism/uber-federalism


Posted by Bowa


Uh.... you make a few assumptions, I hate Bush? Where did I say that? :)

I know that the ideas have been around for a while.

What part of "Ron Paul gave them a voice" do you not understand. :D

In addition, there are many young people getting involved in our government and understanding these concepts because of Ron Paul.

It appears that you want to not actually read my posts and contradict me. So, when you want to be serious, let me know.

Ron Paul has in converting you to his Libertarianism/uber-federalism


Bowa,

Sorry to hear that you are not well. This might help. Dr. Paul is more of a Conservative Republican than Bush is. There is nothing wrong with Libertarians, but Ron Paul is not a Libertarian, he's a Republican. Bush is a Neoconservative Republican.

Sorry to hear that you have been sucked in to the Bush machine. I was for a while but I have an open mind.

I don't mean to insult you, but you really need to understand that Bush's neoconic actions are very harmful to our country.

"There is nothing wrong with Libertarians, but Ron Paul is not a Libertarian"

Ask 3 libertarians whether Ron Paul is a libertarian and you get the following answer:

Loonytarian 1: Yes he is!

Loonytarian 2: No he's not!

Loonytarian 3: He used to be, until he got kidnapped by extraterrestials working for the Trilateral Commission.

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Loonytarian 3: He used to be, until he got kidnapped by extraterrestials working for the Trilateral Commission.

Posted by Bill_OReilly


Everyone is ignoring you but I will tell you.

kucinich is the one who saw the UFO.

LOL, you are a clown Bill.

Loonytarian 3: He used to be, until he got kidnapped by extraterrestials working for the Trilateral Commission.

Posted by Bill_OReilly


Everyone is ignoring you but I will tell you.

kucinich is the one who saw the UFO.

LOL, you are a clown Bill.

"kucinich is the one who saw the UFO. "

Yeah, but Ron Paul is the one wearing the tin hat to protect himself from the Trilateral Commission.

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Boy, these angry libertarians really get pissed when their hero is exposed.

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