Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Sunday, January 13, 2008

At least 121 Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans have committed a killing or been charged in one in the United States after returning from combat, The New York Times reported Sunday.

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The soldiers are getting so brainwashed they believe killing is a normal thing to do.

I'd like to see how many 10s of thousands of veterans fall in this category and then see the number of killings done among an equal amount of civilians to p;ace this in context. Could be that the military killings could be lower than their civilian counterpart.

Byrd,

That is an anbolutly stupid thing to say. Have you ever been in the military? Have you ever been trained by the military? Have you ever been in a conbat zone? Do you have the slightest clue as to what you are talking about? My guess is the answer to all four questions in NO.

People like you are the ones who start this stupid thought process. And then others on this site will run with it as if were fact.

anbolutly = absolutely

conbat = combat

damm I cant spell

"damm I cant spell"

Hilarious. How about a moritorium on posting until you sober up?

Problem is, given the logic of most rightwingers around here, it is not clear if they are ever sober.

When you turn people into killing machines it isn't much of a shock to find that they aren't exactly normal again afterwards.

Well, the pentagon did decide to deny mental health care to over 20,000 soldiers who have returned from Bush's sandbox adventure, citing that they had personality types that suggest these disorders were there prior to their deployment.

Priot to? They WHY were they allowed to go?

I guess that's BushSpeak for 'supporting the troops'.

And that's not even counting McViegh.

"Well, the pentagon did decide to deny mental health care to over 20,000 soldiers who have returned from Bush's sandbox adventure, citing that they had personality types that suggest these disorders were there prior to their deployment".


And what exactly is your source of this information? Dont tell me, George Soros.

The military does not deny mental health care or any other medical care to service members.

Granted the V.A. sucks but the care is still available. Then again that is exactly what you are going to get if Hillary gets her way. Socialized medicine, run by the Govt.

By the way Jo, I dont drink but I really should not try to type while watching Football, even if it is recorded.

"The newspaper said it also logged 349 homicides involving all active-duty military personnel and new veterans in the six years since military action began in Afghanistan, and later Iraq. That represents an 89-percent increase over the previous six-year period, the newspaper said"

This is DrudgeRetort Cliff Notes for the RThugs with reading comprehension issues.

The issue is veteran caused homicides are UP by 89% in the last six years (2002-2007) as compared to the PREVIOUS six years (1996-2001).

The BushCo(TM) investment in the War on Terror is definitely end-loaded!

I believe both Social Security and the VA deny disability benefits to people who don't have their shit together. There are individuals and groups who will help you fill out your paperwork. Talk to your county veteran's service person. Talk to an intake person at your nearest VA clinic. Your well-deserved benefits are too important to get fucked up by your own carelessness or ineptitude. Document your problems, dot the i's and cross the t's, and you will get your benefits.

By the way, being in jail is a handicap, not a disability, and probably not compensible!

So this is Bush's fault?

Let's see now. We can take any group and make a case. For instance: Gangs.

This is in Canada but it works;
www.cbc.ca
The US military didn't train these people I don't believe.

This is in Boston Mass and most are contributed to gang violence, but not mentioned in the article. I have that from the local news;
wbztv.com

The above are not trained killers by the military. They are not trained by Bush or the neocons. They are a product of years of inner city violence mostly. I have yet to hear of successes of all the years of the War of Poverty that has been going on since the mid-60's when the government started to take more and more of your and my paychecks.

I spent 21 years in the military and I am not about to kill anyone. I avoid killing at all costs because I know the results are.

Did the military train any of the high schools kids at Columbine in Aurora, Colorado? I don't think that is where they got their ideas.

Think again when you make blanket statements. You need to make a larger sample like MSgt said and compare the groups of military and civilian population and you will see that they are pretty close I would be willing to bet.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Wait until they all come home after their 4th tour.

Our GIs are trained to kill. It is understandable that when a new recruit is thrown into combat he might overreact in his new environment.

Meanwhile, Bush/Cheney order killing, maiming, torture, infrastructure destruction and Blackwater carryout killing with impunity.

To hold poorly paid, poorly educated recruits to a higher standard than our shithead leaders and well compensated mercenaries is morally depraved and business as usual. Power and wealth provide immunity from law, with inconsistencies which depend on the political environment.

Thus, Rummy can order killing, maiming and torture while pocketing millions while Charles Graner is sent to prison and female Lynndie England has charges thrown out (since she's a woman).

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