Looks like the apple fell real close to the tree.

Are Canadian trucks allowed to drive on America's roads? If so, What's the diff?

This is good news. For the first time in a long time the people don't have to look for reasons to vote democrat. Bush just keeps passing out more. LOL!!

I hear the flushing sound of our national toilet. Everything our trucking industry stands for has been ousted by a signature on a piece of paper.

Good bye, private trucking companies. Your jobs are now in peril. Jefferson is turning in his grave.

I sometimes wonder what is our president thinking? Are the Mexican trucks sub-standard? What happens when they kill us Americans? Who is responsible? Who will pay for this tragedy?

George Bush, why would you do this? What happens when you do not protect our borders? I have more questions than statements.

How many jobs did you make We Americans lose?

Fellow Americans, we need to ban together and stop this crap!

Are Canadian trucks allowed to drive on America's roads? If so, What's the diff?

Posted by rightisright
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DUH! Mexican trucks don't keep the same rules of the road that Canadian and US truckers use. They don't have CDL's or abide by hours of operation, or have to comply with safety standards on their trucks etc etc etc. When these truckers from Mexico start killing American citizens because of obvious shortcomings why not volunteer your time and energy and see how successful you are at tracking these guys down for insurance payback and lawsuits. When one of your family is involved maybe then you will stop listening to that idiot conservative talk show host.

RiR...where to begin..

How about the fact that Canadian trucking is much more stringently regulated, and trucks are more rigorously inspected. Oh, and last time I checked we didn't have 12 million Canadians living here illegally. You want to drive next to some shitbox Mexican big-rig that doesn't have brakes and has a driver that doesn't have a limit on the amount of consecutive driving hours?

Damn, Rezn.....

Oh yeah...

IMPEACH!

I they don't have CDL's or abide by our regulations then basically we Americans can not compete. DUH! This really sucks and Bush dealt us a bad hand.

Maybe now the 24% will see what this asshole is really all about.

slash and burn while being run out on a rail.

Kind of like Sadaam setting the oil wells on fire as he retreated.

"Party and Profits Before Country"
-The Right

Congress voted last year to halt funding

Why is it that the Congress is such a pussy?

Halting funding does nothing.

Passing a law that says throw their ass in jail does something.

Regards,
etc.

Oh, and last time I checked we didn't have 12 million Canadians living here illegally....

Wrong. That figure was what the media put out. It has long since been disproven and the true number is 20- 25 million in our country illegally and probably more than even that. 3000 plus are crossing over the Arizona border every day illegally and that is only one state.

C'Mon guys, facts will only confuse rightiswrong and make him cry like a girl.

Are Canadian trucks allowed to drive on America's roads? If so, What's the diff?

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 07:53

You are kidding, aren't you?

Chris, sadly, he's not.

The signing of this bill will cost my brother in law his job in the trucking industry. Worse yet it cost many other fellow Americans theirs too. Things are bad and Bush just made it worse!

Thanks George.

He will probably never let bio-diesel or any other alternative energy take hold. LOL!

I can't wait for the righties to try and defend this.
Bush has shown his true colors and I hope all of you who voted for him are proud.

Ron Paul said he would not allow the Mexican trucks to roll into this country.

You all are aware, aren't you, that this is to jump start the NAU. Mexican trucks will be pouring over our border from ports in Mexico and carrying uninspected (1% of trucks only) brought in on Communist China ships and will be driving on the NAFTA Superhighway OWNED by a foreign (Spain) consortium and charging tolls to Americans who have already paid in large part for that road to be built. The cities of Kansas and San Antonio where these shipments will go thru aren't even being called "cities" anymore but -- ports!

NONE of the Mexican truckers are required to rest 10 hours between shifts like U.S. drivers. There is NO drug or alcohol check. There is NO way of knowing how long they have been behind the wheel already when the come into our country. There is no way to know their age or if their license is valid or if they are drunk behind the wheel when crossing the border. There is no Mexico data base in existence to even see or know the background of any of these Mexican truck drivers.

And I can say this from seeing it happen EVERY DAY in my state -- when these truck drivers hit some other truck or car and wound and kill the passengers and/or driver? They get out of the truck and run. Most are never found. The police just pick up the bodies they left on the highways. We just had one the other day where a 34 year old woman and her young child were hit and killed. Her other kid died later. The driver ran and they are still looking for him only now they are looking in Mexico. Got the picture?

OMG!

The 1.4 million-member International Brotherhood of Teamsters, which represents U.S. long-haul truckers, expressed outrage at the administration and vowed to press ahead with a lawsuit against the program, which is pending in a federal appeals court in San Francisco.

This isn't really correct. Most Teamsters are local drivers and most over the road guys are non-union drivers working for slave wages (I was one of them).

Are Canadian trucks allowed to drive on America's roads? If so, What's the diff?

Posted by rightisblight

RightIsBlight, I'm glad you're on the other side. This is a new level of dumbness. Canadian trucks and drivers are even more regulated than in the US.

I call my senators and congressman and I always get little or no response. No one listens anymore?

Sure, one might get the canned fax or snail mail response. Bottom line is they do not care how our country is being sold out or so it seems.


Sorry, I am ranting. But we need to produce more domestic products and have more local government.

This NAFTA thing is scarry! Our freedoms our being sold to the highest bidder!

By the way, I blame Bill Clinton for this also. He pushed NAFTA big time. As soon as that 25 mile Tex Mex zone was established, companies started hauling ass out of northern cities.

I call my senators and congressman and I always get little or no response. No one listens anymore?

Mostly all of the Senators and most of the Democrat portion of Congress are all for a "North American Union" -- the globalists' agenda for the death knell of this nation.

It was always said that the destruction and ruin of the USA will not come from its enemies abroad but from its enemies within. You are meeting those enemies now -- they are your current President, Senators and Congressmen who are for a NAU.

shut up and keep consuming. max out another credit card. don't worry, god loves you and your vote means something.

You guys need to quit reading your talking points from the Teamsters Union, and realize that as soon as the trucks pass the line, they're subject to US laws and registration requirements. Duh. Just like Canadian firms, just like an Alabama company driving over to Louisiana--notoriously the worst state for pulling over trucks for imagined offenses, btw.

No, the reason you're opposed to the Mexican trucks and not the Canadian kind is that the Mexicans don't look like you. At least Calif Chris is honest about it.

By the way, I blame Bill Clinton for this also. He pushed NAFTA big time. As soon as that 25 mile Tex Mex zone was established, companies started hauling ass out of northern cities.

Posted by RastaCyborg at 2008-01-05 08:37 PM

You all have to understand ONE thing -- there is no party affiliation for the globalists.
Both Clintons, all the Bushes (Daddy Bush coined the term "New World Order"), the corporate elite -- all are globalists and don't give a damn about their party affiliations.

It has now come down to this fight: citizens of the U.S. versus the globalists. This is no wacko conspiracy theory. It is real and it is happening now. The globalists want to turn us into another European Union. Plans are already underway for a single currency (Amero) just like the Euro and they are full bent on eliminating any and all borders.

We will soon be a two class only country -- millions of third world workers allowed to cross our border at will and the other class -- the global elite. America's middle class will be dead.

Globalists do not see themselves as citizens of U.S.
By the way, I blame Bill Clinton for this also. He pushed NAFTA big time. As soon as that 25 mile Tex Mex zone was established, companies started hauling ass out of northern cities.

Posted by RastaCyborg at 2008-01-05 08:37 PM | Repl
They see themselves as "citizens of the world" -- the "global elite" -- who want to do away with quaint notions of a "nation-state" such as the USA.

WAKE UP AMERICA.

SORRY

The post ID below got mixed up within my post above and was not written by him. My cut and paste screwed up.

Posted by RastaCyborg at 2008-01-05 08:37 PM | Repl

No, the reason you're opposed to the Mexican trucks and not the Canadian kind is that the Mexicans don't look like you. At least Calif Chris is honest about it.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 08:43 PM | Reply | Fl

I never said that fuckhead. PROVE it where I EVER said tthe Mexican trucks crossing EVER had anything to do with something besides safety issues and the NAU.
You can't you lying asshole.

RightIsBlight, I'm glad you're on the other side. This is a new level of dumbness. Canadian trucks and drivers are even more regulated than in the US.

Posted by RastaCyborg
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Take your blinders off, just for a second. Do you really believe that all a trucking company has to do to skirt US regulations is to go get a Mexican business license and apply for one of the slots on the program? Are YOU really that dumb?

Ford and GM both make cars in Mexican plants. Now lemme ask you: are their parts for US cars made to US specs? or to Mexico's? True--they're using lower-cost labor, but as soon as the parts come across the border they are subject to US specifications and law.

Ditto for these Mexican carriers. By the way, this agreement also opens up Mexico to 100 US firms. 100 Mexican companies, 100 American.

If these were the Canadians, nobody would care. But they're a bunch of greasy Hispanics, right? So you guys get all pissy?

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." -Hitler Sure he was some megalomaniac, racist and evil person. Entire college courses have been written about him. But he understood human nature perfectly. Human nature does not change.

This Nafta pact goes beyond our constitution. This was planned years ago and we the fellow American's were simply left in the dark. No politician likes a voter that thinks.

"If these were the Canadians, nobody would care. But they're a bunch of greasy Hispanics, right? So you guys get all pissy?"

Trucks driven from a 3rd world country are not the same as trucks driven from Canada, dummy. It has nothing to do with skin color.

I never said that fuckhead. PROVE it where I EVER said tthe Mexican trucks crossing EVER had anything to do with something besides safety issues and the NAU.
You can't you lying asshole.

Posted by CalifChris
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Chill out and read the article.

Never mind, I'm sure you have another LaRaza article or some tripe about the US and Mexico moving to one currency. So I'll save you the trouble:

* * * *
"The agreement also allows 100 U.S. companies to send their trucks beyond a restrictive border zone in Mexico. Four U.S. companies with a total of 41 trucks have been cleared to travel into the Mexican interior.

More than 500 inspectors have been deployed to enforce safety, vehicle and driver standards, said Melissa Mazzella DeLaney, a spokeswoman for the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration.

DeLaney said the Mexican companies had made 71 crossings into the U.S. interior as of Dec. 11. The U.S. companies, she said, have made 144 crossings into Mexico.

"It's something U.S. companies have never had the opportunity before to do," she said.

"There have been no incidents," DeLaney said of the Mexican trucks. "They are the most vetted, the most scrutinized and the most inspected trucks on American roads today." "

Trucks driven from a 3rd world country are not the same as trucks driven from Canada, dummy. It has nothing to do with skin color.

Posted by Bill_OReilly
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LOL. Nah, of course not.

"There have been no incidents," DeLaney said of the Mexican trucks. "They are the most vetted, the most scrutinized and the most inspected trucks on American roads today."

If these were the Canadians, nobody would care. But they're a bunch of greasy Hispanics, right? So you guys get all pissy?

RightisRACIST's idol and god Bush sells out our nation to the NAU agenda and he can't defend his beloved traitor Bush so he resorts to some pathetic race card. When all else fails....

The agreement also allows 100 U.S. companies to send their trucks beyond a restrictive border zone in Mexico. Four U.S. companies with a total of 41 trucks have been cleared to travel into the Mexican interior.

More than 500 inspectors have been deployed to enforce safety, vehicle and driver standards, said Melissa Mazzella DeLaney, a spokeswoman for the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration.

DeLaney said the Mexican companies had made 71 crossings into the U.S. interior as of Dec. 11. The U.S. companies, she said, have made 144 crossings into Mexico.

"It's something U.S. companies have never had the opportunity before to do," she said.

"There have been no incidents," DeLaney said of the Mexican trucks. "They are the most vetted, the most scrutinized and the most inspected trucks on American roads today." "



Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 08:54 PM


"Bullshit"

There is no NAU agenda, no North American currency. And for YOU to suggest that anyone else is playing the race card is what is pathetic. For you it's all Mexico, all the time. Can you just admit to the possibility that trucks coming over the border--whether from Canada or from Mexico--are subject to the same laws and requirements that the American-owned firms are? And, if so, what is your complaint?

I'll think I'll go have a taco. Good bye.

Rightiswrong(again) has to be one of the most desperate, ignorant posters the Retort has ever had the misfortune to publish

"Bullshit"

Posted by itsme
* * * *

And . . . do you have a link which disproves any of it? How about some personal knowledge, yet to be made public? Eh?

Or are you just another dumbass?

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! The Mexican trucks are out to get us!!!!!!!!!! RUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN N!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO. RightisRacist now? Too funny. I say, let 'em all come. If you're willing to cross a hot desert and work for minimum wage (or less) just for the opportunity to improve your life in the future, that's exactly what we need more of here. But that makes ME a racist?

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! The Mexican trucks are out to get us!!!!!!!!!! RUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN N!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 09:01 PM


AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! 9/11!!!!!!!!!!!!! RUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN N!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE FOR RUDY!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR WE'LL ALL BE KILLED!!!

What a tool.

RightisRacist

Watch the video, DUMMY.

Do you have any facts at all, Briwo? Because those would be handy for your big show tomorrow.

Ah, what was I thinking. You're a lefty. Never mind. Vitriol and passionate hatred will fill up your time, quite nicely.

56 trucks. Nearly 10 US inspectors for each one. No incidents. What's the problem?

Oh, yeah. They're Mexicans. So it must be the end of the world.

The issue isn't race, RIR. The issue is cheap labor.

However, you are correct that NAU and the "amero" are paranoid figments of some people's imagination.

If you're willing to cross a hot desert and work for minimum wage (or less) just for the opportunity to improve your life in the future, that's exactly what we need more of here. But that makes ME a racist?

"What we need more of"

America needs more wage slaves?

You already got over 10 million of them.

You actually think America needs more, eh?

Does that make Reichiswrong a racist?

No, just an evil fuckstick elitist ass-wipe.

Yer a typical compassionless conservative who won't be happy until he's turned the US into some third world shithole.

It makes you a moron and a jerk but a racist?

Naw. Some of your best gardeners are Mexican!

How could YOU be a racist? /snark>

Be Well.

I say, let 'em all come. If you're willing to cross a hot desert and work for minimum wage (or less) just for the opportunity to improve your life in the future, that's exactly what we need more of here.

yeah, that's JUST what this country needs...more lawbreakers making money for greedy CEO's.

I know, everyone who doesn't agree with your vision of a permanent Rethug majority and hemisphereic domination is a racist.

There's a shitload of facts posted on this thread already, read them and dispute them or shut the fuck up.



Playing the race card

56 trucks. Nearly 10 US inspectors for each one. No incidents. What's the problem?

Oh, yeah. They're Mexicans. So it must be the end of the world.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 09:06 PM

10 Inspectors for each one?

Bullshit.

Congratulations, CalifChris--you managed to get another hysterical guy like yourself on CNBC, who directed us to google the Amero, visit some websites, and learn more.

Outside the blogosphere and a few think tanks, there is absolutely no way, zero, none, nada--if that helps--that any of this is taken seriously. So relax and quit worrying about whether the US economy will merge with your despised third-world non-persons to the South of us.

Rightiswrong, can you give your source for the 560 inspectors you claim are dedicated to inspecting these trucks?

10 Inspectors for each one?

Bullshit.

Posted by itsme
* * * *

Well, the article says there are 500 inspectors. And for 56 trucks, that's like, what?

I'll give you lefties this: you have a monopoly on passion. Most people don't really give a damn. But to read this thread . . . godalmighty. Such language!! Such vitriol!! Just imagine what would be possible if you were able to channel all that anger more effectively. Wow.

Rightiswrong, can you give your source for the 560 inspectors you claim are dedicated to inspecting these trucks?

Posted by briwo
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RTFA, Briwo. That might've been a good idea before you went on the air tomorrow, anyhow. You know, just in case you had to refer to it or something. Then again, you're the expert. What do I know? I just listen to the radio:

"More than 500 inspectors have been deployed to enforce safety, vehicle and driver standards, said Melissa Mazzella DeLaney, a spokeswoman for the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration."

"Bullshit"

Posted by itsme
* * * *

And . . . do you have a link which disproves any of it? How about some personal knowledge, yet to be made public? Eh?

Or are you just another dumbass?

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! The Mexican trucks are out to get us!!!!!!!!!! RUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN N!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 09:01 PM
Such language!! Such vitriol!! Just imagine what would be possible if you were able to channel all that anger more effectively. Wow.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 09:12 PM


Yes, Potsie. Imagine.

And these magic 500 inspectors are dedicated to inspection and monitoring of these trucks?

Or will that be another unfunded mandate dumped on the States?

shrub the decider/defier/gay/
cheerleader.

No, just an evil fuckstick elitist ass-wipe.

Yer a typical compassionless conservative who won't be happy until he's turned the US into some third world shithole.

Posted by dethspud
* * * *

Oh. So I'm an elitist . . . who wants to turn the US into a Third-World country.

LOL. Whatever. Don't you have to make up some Obama signs? By the way--thanks for the Nazi reference. I was afraid you had forgotten today. By the way--I wonder how the Nazi's would've felt about some truckers from some "third world shithole" driving on their roads?

Probably about the same as you do.

More than 500 inspectors have been deployed to enforce safety, vehicle and driver standards, said Melissa Mazzella DeLaney, a spokeswoman for the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration."

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 09:15 PM


Yes, mea culpa, why didn't I just take whatever some Federal shill says at face value and fall into slackjawed lockstep with the other sheeple.

I mean after all, this admin has been so honest with us over the past 7 + yrs.

Like I said, what a tool.

And these magic 500 inspectors are dedicated to inspection and monitoring of these trucks?

Or will that be another unfunded mandate dumped on the States?

Posted by briwo
* * *

Look who read the article, finally!!

So we've gone from mythical 500 inspectors, to magic ones, which might have to be paid for by the states.

Well, that's progress. Just curious--do you put your shows together this way? You know, just pick out a headline or two? Or do you educate yourself a little first, just in case a tough question or two comes up?

DEATH OF THE WEST Pat Buchannan

STATE OF EMERGENCY Pat Buchannan

IN MORTAL DANGER Tom Tancredo

THE LATE GREAT USA Jerome Corsi

DAY OF RECKONING Pat Buchannan

THE WORLD IF FLAT Thomas Friedman

THREE BILLION NEW CAPITALISTS Clyde Prestowitz

AMERICA ALONE Mark Steyn

AND
SEVERAL MORE

Need I say more or is every person on this blog so blinded by the truth of what is happening with our open borders policy, NAFTA, CAFTA, and all the other schemes to lower costs in order to increase Corporate profits at the cost of the American worker?

Mexican trucks do not, I repeat, DO NOT, meet the same safety standards as American trucking or Canadian trucking. Mexican truckers are paid a fraction of what American and Canadian truckers are. Need I go on and on???

I JUST returned from Del Rio and El Paso where Yellow Freight and Schneider has pre-positioned maybe hundreds of trucks, waiting on Mexican drivers who are paid a fraction of what a Teamster trucker earns. Now why in the hell would Yellow Freight and Schneider do that??? Anybody want to guess???

Sorry guys. it is time we either raised up and raised hell or else bent over and grabbed our ankles.

Just imagine what would be possible if you were able to channel all that anger more effectively. Wow.

Yeah! We could pre-emptively invade a defensless country that couldn't attack America or make WMD's. That'd be so cool!

End of American Trucking free enterprise. I hear the swooshing sound right now.

Mexican trucks do not, I repeat, DO NOT, meet the same safety standards as American trucking or Canadian trucking. Mexican truckers are paid a fraction of what American and Canadian truckers are. Need I go on and on???
* * * *

Mexican trucks on US roads meet US standards. Just like US trucks on Canadian roads have to meet Canadian standards. And just like Florida trucks in Lousiana have to meet Louisiana standards.

By the way, I love Mark Steyn. I bought three copies of America Alone for gifts. Great writer. Buchanan . . . not so much.

Hey evashogouki

Why not try 25 million to 30 million illegals living here??? Your small number is just that, WAY too small.

I they don't have CDL's or abide by our regulations then basically we Americans can not compete. DUH! This really sucks and Bush dealt us a bad hand.

Posted by Unclesam
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Do you really believe, that these drivers don't have licenses to drive big trucks? Do you REALLY BELIEVE that?

You guys are hysterical. And not in a funny way.

Actually, I take that back. In a funny way too.

Rightiswrong, I'll let you know when I get one. So far the tightie righties haven't been much of a challenge.

You can get on here and jack off to the thought of higher corporate profits at the expense of American jobs, but I bet there's some teamsters who would like to talk to you.

Party Before Country, Corportus Uber Alles!
-Rightiswrong

And just like Florida trucks in Lousiana have to meet Louisiana standards

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 09:27 PM

Hey Asshat? I live in Fla. and there plenty of trucks here who don't meet Fla standards.

Mexican trucks on US roads meet US standards.

And we should trust you on this because..?

Mexico has a long history of respecting our laws?

Need I say more or is every person on this blog so blinded by the truth of what is happening with our open borders policy, NAFTA, CAFTA, and all the other schemes to lower costs in order to increase Corporate profits at the cost of the American worker?
-posted by FarmerJohn

actually it's just Rightiswrong, the rest of us think he's an asshole.

Mexican trucks on US roads meet US standards.

And we should trust you on this because..?

Mexico has a long history of respecting our laws?

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-01-05 09:31


LOL! FF

Okay Briwo. Good luck with your show tomorrow. And I know plenty of Teamsters. I used to be controller of a trucking firm, and I know how upset they get about the idea of Mexicans being able to drive trucks. Drives 'em crazy. Just like the UAW who can't believe that Mexicans have the intelligence to screw bumpers onto Ford pickups.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of smart Mexicans. And there are a lot of wealthy ones, some of whom happen to own trucking companies.

Do you really believe, that these workers don't have citizenship live here? Do you REALLY BELIEVE that?

/snark.

You're about 25 years too late Johnny.

Reagan cut a deal for the endorsement of the Teamsters and the Mob boys used deregulation to undermine the locals and use shell companies to cut wages and benefits. Continental Can fired all its drivers, and the next day a Mob company starting hiring for their new contract with CCC -- same guys hauling the same freight for less money.

A couple of NJ wise guys started CountryWide - something like that - but got busted. But that set the mold for undermining the National Contract that Jimmy Hoffa fought long and hard to get for the drivers.

Fitzsimmons was whore and he put out to everyone.

Of course it was the drivers who got fucked.

This is just the latest.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of smart Mexicans.

No one here questioned the intelligence of mexicans...only the legality of their citizenship or conduct while working here.

And there's about 12 million(illegal) reasons for people to ask that question!

actually it's just Rightiswrong, the rest of us think he's an asshole.

Posted by briwo
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Lefties are like that. Anyone with a dissenting point of view must have a personality defect.

I know some Mexicans who can drive a big truck, who would take umbrage at the idea they're too stupid to do so. Or, for that matter, that they make less money than most of you. They don't.

Ah . . . that's it. These greasy fence-jumping wetbacks from--how did Spud put it?--"third world shitholes"--come here and make more of themselves than you have. Dissonance is created, hence the resentment.

READ THE HEADLINES: BUSH DEFIES CONGRESS. It is not about we the people. It is about Congress. Do you believe for one minute what WE believe really matters?

WAKE UP AMERICA!

Our country is slipping away and this is just the start.

Please show me any post but yours that postulates on the intelligence of Mexicans.

Projecting on us won't help your "argument."

Anyone with a dissenting point of view must have a personality defect.

Hey, it was YOU that assumed we were calling mexicans stupid. I'm just wondering how legal this all is, especially considering congress' stance on the whole thing.

Put your free market wet dreams aside and realize that there are 12 million illegal mexicans in the US, and it makes a mockery of our current laws and pisses on the hard work our ancestors did to come to this country legally.

I know some Mexicans who can drive a big truck, who would take umbrage at the idea they're too stupid to do so

No one said that but YOU. Fuck the strawman tactics.

Ihave no problem with legal immigrants making it to the top.

Last year I dated a nurse for awhile. She's a $90,000 a year emergercy room nurse with a master's degree. She also is an illegal alien. Came here when she was 10, then sent back to Colombia. She and her family came back and tried again, this time to stay. Her father is a trilingual executive with Sheraton who is now responsible for overseeing the construction of Four Points projects in South America. She has a son and pays taxes and is on a work visa, which keeps getting extended because of the dearth of nurses, especially those who can speak Spanish, especially those with Master's of Nursing degrees who speak Spanish and work in trauma centers.

Lemme ask you Chris: up to you, would you make them all go back?

I don't know about Chris, but I can answer for me, YES!

Your story only proves the point, a well educated woman chooses to live here illegally instead of becoming a citizen or going through the proper visa channels.

Lot's of respect for our Country and laws.

Had I been in your place I would have driven her to INS myself and put her ass on the bus back.

Bush wants to deny it and keep it hushed up because he knows Americans will tar and feather him out of the White House. Whats your reason? $$$$$$$$$$$$$??

Posted by CalifChris
* * *

You answered your own question. Bush is in office another 11 months, so if he wants an Amero, he needs to hurry. Even assuming that he wants one--which would be news to anyone who works in the business--if he would be tarred and feathered, why bother? The euro doesn't work--it'll fall apart in five years, if that. The Amero wouldn't either.

But I'll save you the trouble of asking again: in the event any politician, anywhere, at any time, proposes seriously to merge the economies and the currencies of ANYONE's with the United States, I'll fight it with everything I have. The US Dollar is the world's reserve currency, backed by the world's oldest constitutional government, the world's most lethal military, the world's greatest respector of property rights, the world's largest economy, the world's largest exporter, and the world's largest manufacturing economy.

Happy now? If anyone tries to move the sorry peso under the Fed umbrella, I'll be standing right next to you, rifle in hand.

But then again righties these days show very little respect for our laws, Constitution, or Country.

If anyone tries to move the sorry peso under the Fed umbrella, I'll be standing right next to you, rifle in hand.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 09:47 PM

I'm holding you to that.

Here's the deal: US corporations have saved a boatlaod of money (and given it to their CEO's) by hiring illegal immigrants to work for less than americans.

Our ancestors did it the legal way(mostly) Dad and Mom came over from germany with grandma and granpa in tow. The older generation only spoke their native tongue so the parents translated for them. Their kids(the grandchildren) learned english FIRST because that's the language of this country.

There was no "press 1 for english" bullshit. You either assimilated or you didn't prosper.

I don't blame the illegals for doing what humans do...make money for their families by taking the path of least resistance. I blame our govt and the companies that lobby them for allowing that path to be against our written laws.

We now have 12 million illegal aliens in the US because of our love for profit, and it's costing us in other ways.

Your story only proves the point, a well educated woman chooses to live here illegally instead of becoming a citizen or going through the proper visa channels.

Lot's of respect for our Country and laws.

Had I been in your place I would have driven her to INS myself and put her ass on the bus back.

Posted by briwo
* * *

I believe you, actually.

"Hey, Doc, that Mexican over there. You sure she's a legal? Did someone check her papers?"

Of course, the ancestors of the honorable Mr. Briwo probably never had to deal with the INS--if your ancestors were like mine, they just showed up on a boat from somewhere. Then, immediately upon arrival, they passed all kinds of laws to keep America white and beautiful.

I applaud you for your honesty, such as it is. I wonder if you really would, though? How many calls to the INS have you ever made? Surely, you know of an illegal or two . . . ever reported them?

And I certainly don't view mexicans as "stupid". Only people that see 12 millino illegals and cheer for their portoflios. I question the intelligence of those idiots.

they passed all kinds of laws to keep America white and beautiful.

More strawmen. I could care less what color someone is...as long as they are a legal citizen.

my problem with mexico is that their corrupt govt, along with ours, keeps sending slave labor over here and violating our laws because the mexican economy is shit.

She's a $90,000 a year emergercy room nurse with a master's degree. She also is an illegal alien.

She's also smart enough to have applied for citizenship legally after the fact.

That's two strikes against her as a person. 1- no respect for the law. 2- she dated you.

Here's the deal: US corporations have saved a boatlaod of money (and given it to their CEO's) by hiring illegal immigrants to work for less than americans.
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Actually, they passed the savings on to you. There has been no real inflation in clothing and apparel for over 25 years. When I was in high school, a pair of Levi's was $24.99. Same as today. Now maybe in your world you don't believe that Imperial Valley and Florida fruits and vegetables harvested by migrant labor wouldn't cost a whole lot more if we just shipped 'em all home. But it would.

Nah. The American populist hasn't changed since the 1800's. It was the blacks, then the Chinese, then the Vietnamese and Cambodian boat people, then it was the Cubans, now the Mexicans. Always someone trying to steal your money, steal your job, steal your way of life. How tiresome.

Maybe you should do what I do. Every night when you go to bed, and every morning when you get up, drop to your knees and give thanks to an Almighty, merciful God who allowed you to be born HERE, instead of putting you somewhere you had to spend a good deal of your adult life figuring out how to get here. Live a life a gratitude and caring, instead of bitterness and anger.

Just an idea.

Lots of respect for our Country and laws.

Nice snarkasm, Briwo!

In point of fact there is very little respect fer American Laws in Mexico, particularily Immigration Laws, even at the very top levels of their government.

Mexico is a corrupt shit-hole of a country that has been run by the same gang of criminals and oligarchs at the expense of everybody else fer many, many decades now.

The Mexican government actively encourages their citizenry to flee the country because they know that a great deal of the money made by illegals in the US makes it's way back over the border in Mexico.

Ass-wipes like RiR and his "I got mine and fuck you" cronies think that the best thing fer folk like himself is to drive wages down in America by letting in millions of Mexicans who will work fer peanuts. This latest kick in the nuts to the Teamsters is just a small part of a much larger and more insidious plan.

Squeeze the Middle Class and the Working Poor down even further and then transfer those profits to the rich minority who neither deserve it nor need it.

Then tell everybody that it's neccessary in order to remain competitive.

Meanwhile the entire manufacturing base has fled to China where the proprietary knowledge is gonna be stolen and then reproduced in Chinese owned factories.

All America really has going for it is brand recognition and that can be destroyed practically overnight.

At the end of the day, America has encouraged other countries around the world to adopt an immoral top down authoritarian system in order to more effectively exploit their workers and now that system is coming home to roost.

Truly sad thing is it hasn't even begun to really hurt yet but it will.

Then push will come to shove.

This is partially why Spud a notorious Lefty is heartily encourage the preservation of the 2nd ammendment in the US.

'Nuff sed.

Gonna go eat and watch the debate now and maybe be back later with notes on the thing.

Be Well.

She's also smart enough to have applied for citizenship legally after the fact.

That's two strikes against her as a person. 1- no respect for the law. 2- she dated you.

Posted by Alexandrite
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She's been waiting for her citizenship for 11 years. Lemme guess---you don't know anyone who's ever had to deal with the INS, right?

As to the other, you're right. She was a lot smarter than I was, and a lot more attractive too. Surprised it took her as long as it did to figure that out. Her mom and dad really liked me, though. Good people.

Really rir? Is that why wages haven't kept up with inflation and the gulf between CEO and worker pay has widened, cuz the "savings got passed on to me"?

Like I said earlier. It's costing US more money in the long run and giving it to the CEO's.

And screw you for implying that I wanted america white and that I was saying mexicans were unintelligent. You're a jerk.

"drop to your knees and give thanks to an Almighty, merciful God who allowed you to be born HERE,"

No thanks. She (God) doesn't exist, and if she did, she is a mass murderer.

I was doing research for tomorrow's show and this is one of the top topics I'll be covering. I urge everyone to call in with their thoughts and opinions.
Shakedown Street

Posted by briwo


What's the over/under on phone calls for your show? 3? I'll take the under...

She's been waiting for her citizenship for 11 years.

As long as she's trying I'm fine with that.

I thought I said that to Briwo, actually. It's hard to keep straight who's saying what. Are you and Briwo the same person? Because I can't keep that straight either.

This thread started out saying that Mexican trucks didn't have to comply with US law. They do. And that they weren't being inspected. They are. Then came the same bromides I hear all day every day with respect to Mexico and Mexicans and illegals aliens and lowering our standard of living blah blah blah. 100 US firms are allowed to operate in Mexico, and 100 Mexican firms are allowed to operate in the United States. Sorry if I don't see what the big deal is, or that this is another step to a giant Amero zone or whatever the hell you guys are so concerned about.

What's the over/under on the Eagles winning in the playoffs?

Oh that's right.............

Wobbie, give it up. You're a joke, a skidmark on the underwear of life.

Interesting you don't seem to have the sack to call in and say it to my face/ear.

Pussy.

Live a life a gratitude and caring,

Hey, I have no problem letting people over here legally.

I have a serious problem with letting in illegal aliens when we can't even take care of our own. Especially illegals with no incentive to learn the native language because companies wanna save THEMSELVES money.

If you want to help mexican illegals, put that compassion of yours into electing a presdient that will work toward improving mexico's economy...so they won't send people across the desert to possibly die.

Since when do righties care about dead brown people?

Wobbie, give it up. You're a joke, a skidmark on the underwear of life.

You forgot to put this in all caps and bold tags to make sure we all know the days of pussy libs are over...

Interesting you don't seem to have the sack to call in and say it to my face/ear.

Pussy.

Posted by briwo


I can see why you would want me to listen in, then you could come here and brag about how your ratings have doubled...

What's the over/under on phone calls for your show? 3? I'll take the under...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-01-05 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag:


Do your erotic phone calls count? Type an answer once your hand is free of your pants, please.

Why is everyone aways talking about skin color and Races?

I work a variety of Russians, Italians, etc. and we get along.

This whole subject is about Mexican Trucking.

1.) Are the trucks understaffed and substandard?

2.) Will it put U.S. businesses out of business?

3.) What will this do to our economy?

4.) other. LOL.

Since when do righties care about dead brown people?

Posted by briwo at 2008-01-05 10:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's low, briwo.

You guys need to quit reading your talking points from the Teamsters Union, and realize that as soon as the trucks pass the line, they're subject to US laws and registration requirements.
Posted by rightisright
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You need to stop echoing the bull crap from conservative talk radio. We can't even stop illegals or know who they are when they cross the border and WE ARE LOOKING for them. You won't know an unsafe truck until one is involved in an accident. You won't know a driver who has been up too long until he is involved in an accident. What insurance company are you going to go after in Mexico when they don't play by the same rules? Who are you going to sue for wrongful death? Oh I get it you have swallowed the whole conservative mindset and figure lives are just collateral when it comes to the almighty dollar. Do you really think Mexico is going to revoke a drivers license for a serious infraction. I almost hate to even respond to such nonsense from the right. Mexico's govt is just about in chaos and you think they are going to enforce driving and safety laws? If the US wants to invade a country they should start with Mexico and clean it up. That would go a long way to ending much of the problems up here.

Wobbie, your deflections won't work here.

Don't you have a Jersey Turnpike rest stop bathroom to haunt?

And 10:12 Wobbie? she's already let you hump her leg and kicked your ass to the couch?

Poor little boy.

Rob- I dare you to call in briwos show. I'd love to hear you two mouth off at each other in real time, whiner.

And the drudge pool sez you got a high pitched voice. Prove me wrong.

Do your erotic phone calls count?

Of course. Its the only interesting part of shitdown street.

So you see, it can be done legally and it can be done succesfully. Anything less dishonors our Ancestors, our families, and our Country.

Posted by briwo
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I'm sure Isabel and her family has no intention of dishonoring your ancestors. They want to be left alone, to make a good living, and raise their children. Just like yours did.

Sorry, but no. By coming here, learning our language, working hard, getting an education, and working in our most challenging careers, healing the sick, paying their taxes, raising their families--they do honor our ancestors, OUR families, and our country. I did 9 years in the Army, and Hispanics were represented far--FAR--in excess of their representation in the population at large, especially in the elite combat arms branches. Just out of curiosity, what branch of the service were you in?

Alex: I want a piece of that action!

Sorry, wrong. She is ILLEGAL!!!

What part of that don't you understand. Hey I appreciate she works and pays taxes, but that doesn't mean we waive the law.

she needs to come clean.

Don't you have a Jersey Turnpike rest stop bathroom to haunt?


A quick summary of your "insults" towards me finds one gay comment after another... Projection?

maybe Ole Raisin Ovaries is your beard?

You need to stop echoing the bull crap from conservative talk radio. We can't even stop illegals or know who they are when they cross the border and WE ARE LOOKING for them. You won't know an unsafe truck until one is involved in an accident. You won't know a driver who has been up too long until he is involved in an accident. What insurance company are you going to go after in Mexico when they don't play by the same rules? Who are you going to sue for wrongful death? Oh I get it you have swallowed the whole conservative mindset and figure lives are just collateral when it comes to the almighty dollar. Do you really think Mexico is going to revoke a drivers license for a serious infraction. I almost hate to even respond to such nonsense from the right. Mexico's govt is just about in chaos and you think they are going to enforce driving and safety laws? If the US wants to invade a country they should start with Mexico and clean it up. That would go a long way to ending much of the problems up here.

Posted by reznwerks
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LMAO. Actually, it sounds as if you're the one getting your talking points from conservative talk radio. Godalmighty. Did you work on the Tancredo campaign?

"I can see why you would want me to listen in, then you could come here and brag about how your ratings have doubled..."

Come on, Rob. Don't chicken out. It's just a phone call to an internet radio program. What are you afraid of? Are you a chicken? Maybe we ought to start calling you ChickenRob. Should we?

The reason to be concerned about foreign trucks on American roads is that it means that a traditionally honorable and lucrative form of employment here in the US may gradually begin being outsourced to far lower payed Mexican truckers. Also, the ripple effect is such so that we may eventually see a decline in port activity (and longshoremen employment) as foreign countries ship to Mexico more cheaply and then truck the goods up to the US (again, more cheaply.)
Unfortunately, there are many who will react to this news negatively due to preexisting negative stereotypes of Mexicans. Racism finds a way to burn no matter how weak the fuel. (And yet, as if by magic, it denies it's racist nature.)

US Army 1978-1982

11B

just like every direct male ancsestor of my great-great grandfather(see above)

I'd love to hear you two mouth off at each other in real time, whiner.

Yeah, I'm the whiner, should I repost your crying last night about the JOKE about Zat's stupid cat?

And the drudge pool sez you got a high pitched voice. Prove me wrong.

Posted by Alexandrite


You have the lamest insults on the entire site... Maybe its your lack of T-Cells...

Rob wouldn't double the ratings if he called in. He'd quadruple them with his fat krispy cream eating ass.

Next time try the JENNY craig diet, rob...not the larry craig diet.

Oh. Good for you.

Of course he is. He's bad, bad Leroy Brown behind his keyboard.

It's just a phone call to an internet radio program. What are you afraid of? Are you a chicken? Maybe we ought to start calling you ChickenRob. Should we?

Posted by Bill_OReilly


Only if the topic can be that douchebag Max the Cat.

No, I'm not calling some silly radio program... I've never called Hannity, or Limbaugh or Air America, so I'm not gonna start with Briwo's silly internet radio show so he, his wife and Hans' 38 cats can enjoy the program for once.

You have the lamest insults on the entire site... Maybe its your lack of T-Cells...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-01-05 10:18 PM


Is that an AIDS reference?
Nice Wobbie, real nice.

Is there any depth you won't stoop to?

Wow. 123 posts now, on a thread about Mexican trucking.

In other news, there's something about a debate between the presidential pretenders.

No, I'm not calling some silly radio program... I've never called Hannity, or Limbaugh or Air America, so I'm not gonna start with Briwo's silly internet radio show so he, his wife and Hans' 38 cats can enjoy the program for once.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-01-05 10:20 PM


That's what I thought.

Maybe its your lack of T-Cells...

Classy as always. Call the show or stfu rob. You're the biggest mangina on this entire site, hands down. Tadowe has more self respect than you.

He also consumes less medication for ED.

"No, I'm not calling some silly radio program... "

Bwack. Bwack. Bwack...

RightisRight likes this development because, as a big investor, he stands to gain through the cheapening of transportation costs. He doesn't care if the American worker gets screwed in the process. If this goes unchecked, and becomes commonplace, then mark my words, both professional truck drivers and longshoremen will begin seeing their salaries drop and their jobs dry up.

Of course he is. He's bad, bad Leroy Brown behind his keyboard.

Posted by briwo


HAHAHAHAHAH... Who was the one on here just a few weeks ago crying about how he's not going to take it anymore and the days of Pussy libs are over... huh bad ass? Or how about this post?

CONSTANT FUCKING WHINING!!! GODAMNIT YOU'RE A FUCKING PUSSY!!

What's wrong Wobbie? Rudy's ultimate demise got your panties in a wad?

Posted by briwo

All caps and bolded... wow... so tough!!

This is the second time today that I have felt compelled to use the words of Lewis Black*.

GWB's hand is on the toilet lever that is sending the USA down the shitter.








*Lewis Black-see youtube.com-search comedy-laugh so hard you will refill shitter.

There's nothing quite like being told you're unfunny by rob. A guy that makes AIDS and barren womb plus dead cat jokes. Then whines when his posts get dumped. *sniff*

Thanks for the compliment, WOB.

Calm down Wobbie, your gonna lose another panty shield.

Briwo- Naw, he bought the kind with wings this time.

Since when do righties care about dead brown people?

Posted by briwo at 2008-01-05 10:09 PM

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How did I miss that post?

Hmmm. I dunno. President Bush has Hispanic nieces and nephews. Presumably he cares about them.

I wonder how many Hispanic relatives you have? For that matter, how many Hispanics you even know? It must really chafe the liberals to pretend to be so loving and accepting of all people and all races at all times, but simultaneously believe that anyone coming from "Third World shitholes" should be boxed up and sent back, and that anyone living in the Islamic world could never embrace democracy, or that anyone in China could build something of quality. How are you able to believe those things about yourself, and about them, and not have your head explode?

TRAITOR8

...Unfortunately, there are many who will react to this news negatively due to preexisting negative stereotypes of Mexicans....

Try not racebaiting for once in your life and tell the truth for a change. Your statement there are many who will react to this news negatively due to..." has nothing to do with the truckers being Mexicans but the VERY REAL FACT that we Americans don't want to join a stinking North American Union and these Mexican trucks and the ports being built in Mexico to receive Chinese goods and the NAFTA superhighway are all a part and parcel of this NAU merger and you know it. Your goal has always been globalist, pro-Bush, pro-open bordesr, and anti-American and you play your asinine "you don't like brown people" race card to promote your agenda. Your agenda is not pro-America either and never has been.

C'Mon Wobbie! I promise I won't even bring up the fact that you didn't last one day in ROTC.

ooooooopppsss.........

You should stop before you get deeper in the hole than you already are. American companies operating in Mexico do so because they don't have to pay US wages and social security among other benefits, they don't have to pay insurance, and don't have to abide by US environmental laws.
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So?

He had cramps and no midol, briwo. Give WOB a break.

TRAITOR8

I'm redoing it because I screwed up the italics.

Try not racebaiting for once in your life and tell the truth for a change. Your statement There are many who will react to this news negatively due to... has nothing to do with the truckers being Mexicans but the VERY REAL FACT that we Americans don't want to join a stinking North American Union and these Mexican trucks and the ports being built in Mexico to receive Chinese goods and the NAFTA superhighway are all a part and parcel of this NAU merger and you know it. Your goal has always been globalist, pro-Bush, pro-open borders, pro-illegal aliens, and anti-American and you play your asinine "you don't like brown people" race card to promote your agenda. Your agenda is not pro-America either and never has been.

"He's bad, bad Leroy Brown behind his keyboard."

But Chicken Little when it comes to making a phone call.

Bwack...bwack...bwack...

Wob, do me afavor, go out and get a nice hoagie or cheesesteak and some good ale, come home, sit down with the sandwich, take a deep breath and SEND ME MY FUCKING TASTYTATES!!!

That's what I thought.

Posted by briwo

HAHAHA... who is being the badass behind their keyboard again?

You're right, its that I'm scared or you... it couldn't be because I have no interest whatsoever in calling your silly program... nah, its that you're so tough and I'm scared... after all you were in the army from 78-82... what tough war torn times those were.

If this goes unchecked, and becomes commonplace, then mark my words, both professional truck drivers and longshoremen will begin seeing their salaries drop and their jobs dry up.

Posted by moder8
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I see. So you think that because of these Mexican truckers--56 and counting--freighters will be docking in Mexico and shipping their product up by truck? Rather than docking in Newark or Jacksonville or Bremerton or Virginia Beach or Boston?

Whatever. Frankly, that's fine. If transportation costs fall, and companies become more competitive, costs to the consumer go down. Gales of creative destruction.

I like the peanut butter ones.

And then there are once-in-a-lifetime cats (and dogs).

"TRAITOR8

...Unfortunately, there are many who will react to this news negatively due to preexisting negative stereotypes of Mexicans....

Try not racebaiting "

Chris whines about racebaiting in the very same post he calls someone a traitor.

hhhmmmmm....4 yrs active infantry vs. 4 hrs in ROTC.

Yep, you're the man.

Classy as always.

Who is whining now?

Awwww... I guess I stepped over Alex's line and now he's going to cry again... just like last night... One of the side effects of those cocktails must be you become a little bitch.

Where were you stationed Briwo.

Well Wobbie, then at least you'll have someone to talk to.

4 yrs active infantry

In war torn late 70s Germany... whew... tough times... Thank you Rambo.

PS Your new movie looks awful...

RightisRight, the 56 truckers are not what scares me. It is when all the businessmen like you realize what a great deal this is and the number balloons to 5600. Exploitation is very lucrative for people such as yourself.
CalifChris: You are a racist POS in my opinion. And the scary thing is that your hatred of faceless Latinos is so deep and so intense that you don't even seem to realize it is there. Your paranoia on this topic is evocative of BuffaloBob discussing how our government destroyed the Twin Towers, and the UFOs on the moon. And, similar to BBob, you cite twisted paranoid sources as your authorities. You tend to rely on the likes of Lou Dobbs and Pat Buchanan. Predictable, but still disgusting.

He had cramps and no midol, briwo. Give WOB a break.

Posted by Alexandrite


Powerful stuff ther Richard Prior...

I volunteered to go to Germany and be a speed bump should the Russians choose to invade. Remember, this was during the Cold War, outnumbered by tanks and infantry 10-1 we were told. Crazy times.

Then Ft Lewis.

Live close enough now to hear late night artillery practice. (actually it's just the vibrations).

I'm not whining, just pointing out what a classless dirtbag you are, rob.

Feel free to cry when those posts get dumped, and complain about what a jerk rcade is. A real man would shut the fuck up and go somewhere else.

Or maybe...do some work at his job instead of making an ass of himself every night on said blog.

Pryor dickbag.

first time I ever heard him was 79 in Germany, a guy had the tape of That Nigger's Crazy, and we listened to it over and over, we couldn't believe what we were hearing.

Pryor dickbag.

first time I ever heard him was 79 in Germany, a guy had the tape of That Nigger's Crazy, and we listened to it over and over, we couldn't believe what we were hearing.

I did three years in Augsburg, Germany. Four in Kunia with an occasional detour to Bosnia. Basic at Leonard Wood, AIT in Monterey, CA and in San Angelo, TX.

I was at the Presidio when the 7th Light moved to Ft. Lewis. Ft Ord was like a ghost town after that.

I'm not whining, just pointing out what a classless dirtbag you are, rob.


Hahahaha...

Feel free to cry when those posts get dumped

So you flagged my posts but you aren't whining? What a tool... you know Briwo and I have it out, but we don't flag each other's posts...

Feel free to cry when those posts get dumped

I have no problem when my posts get dumped... its when only mine get dumped that I have a problem, but at least now I've found out who the douche is that's running around flagging them.

Or maybe...do some work at his job

Jealous, whiney bitch.

Flag away Alex... flag away...

TRAITOR8

Your racebait card doesn't work anymore. You have been proven a liar when you denied there even existed a North American Union or a plan for the Amero single currency.

Do you think I give you a shred of belief over somebody like Stephen Previn -- an international investment banker VP with a nationally recognized investment firm! Plus -- Ron Paul was asked by CNN in the nationally televised debates about the NAU. So what do you have to say now, racebaiter? Your credibility ceases to exist in any of your pathetic racist rants which have been your ONLY contribution to these threads since you started to post here. You're a joke.

WHo said I flagged you, rob? You get dumped all the time. And you DO flag briwo. I know you do.

And I'm not jealous. I'm glad my boss isn't so stupid to allow me to do no work.

PS- I AM my own boss. jealous you whiny bitch?

Be back in a bit... or maybe not if Alex keeps flagging... or maybe in Alex's case we should drop the "l"

BILL O'REILLY

Chris whines about racebaiting in the very same post he calls someone a traitor.

Posted by Bill_OReilly at 2008-01-05 10:33 PM |

Shut up and don't address me again. It was SO NICE when you had been gone off here for awhile. So sorry to see you have slithered back on to these threads again. Spew your lies and venon elsewhere and stop stalking me -- one of your sick and favorite pastimes.

its when only mine get dumped that I have a problem

WAAAAAAAAH. You're such a crybaby tool.

Right: I was in Bay Area whne Ft Ord was reorganized (I think)

Basic at Ft Dix summer 78, then Ft Benning for AIT and Jump School.

2 week leave and then Germany. Did some mountain war fare training with 7th Spec Forces in bad Tolz, then went over the alps on snowshoes carring a full combat and survival load for 3 days.
They also had an awesome E&E course.

Hey CC, stop talking to yourself. LOL. Truly, you kill me. Suggestion: take a long hard look in the mirror. What I think you will see is ugly.

CC--there might be plans, somewhere, for a manned mission to Mars. I would think--even hope--that there are plans for a nuclear attack on Russia. Just in case. And in some one-world eurozone-loving think tank there might be somebody saying the NAU or the Amero should be policy, just like the flat tax or a wall that goes from the Rio Grande to the Pacific. It won't happen, and sitting around worrying about stuff like that will make you go crazy. Don't bother.

You gotta get off the internet, son, and live in the real world. A few months ago you were convinced that we were about to bomb Iran. You guaranteed it, in fact, based on some things you read on the web. You should shut it off.

Wobbie! You flag me?! I'm touched! You care, you really care!

by the way, I wasn't kidding about the Tastytakes.

Wow Brivo, times have changed. Fort Dix is closed, 7th SF Group now has a small detachment out of Frankfurt, but they've come back. And Bad Tolz is now a training camp for our armor and artillery units, but about a third the size it was.

They've also shut down Nurnburg, which was a huge base that featured a brand-new hospital.

Best time I had in Germany was at a special school in Garmisch-Partinkirschen, right at the foot of the Zugspitze. Alot of skiing and mountain biking--absolute blast.

I miss those days. Sometimes, anyway. Regards.

"Shut up and don't address me again. "

I'll address you any time I want, chump. Deal with it.

And I don't stalk you. I just respond to your preposterous bullshit when I see it. So either deal with it or shut the fuck up.

Right, we took a trip from Weisbaden that our CO arranged, it was like $30 and we spent 5 days in Garmisch in April skiing the Zugspitze. The train ride up and the lodge carved out of the mountain was almost as amazing as the view of the alps and 3 or 4 different countries from almost 14,000 ft.

It was crystal clear and the sky was so blue it was almost black.

Everyone was skiing is shorts, girls in bkinis and snow pants, talk about sunburned!

You guys need to quit reading your talking points from the Teamsters Union, and realize that as soon as the trucks pass the line, they're subject to US laws and registration requirements. Duh. Just like Canadian firms, just like an Alabama company driving over to Louisiana--notoriously the worst state for pulling over trucks for imagined offenses, btw.

No, the reason you're opposed to the Mexican trucks and not the Canadian kind is that the Mexicans don't look like you. At least Calif Chris is honest about it.

Posted by rightisright

Actually, trucking companies in the US do register in certain states (ahem, Oklahoma) for tax and other reasons. My point was that Mexican trucks are not as regulated as Canadian trucks.
90% of the trucks coming in will not be inspected. The ones from Canada will be up to snuff already, who the hell knows about the ones from Mexico?
The truck drivers from Canada are not allowed to drive 10 hours and then just start over at the US border, who knows how long a Mexican driver has been on the road when he crosses over into El Paso?

I realize it is still very early. But after reading some of his posts tonight, I hereby nominate CalifChris for the "NetBitch" of the year award.

"You have been proven a liar when you denied there even existed a North American Union or a plan for the Amero single currency."

You said the NAU "proposal" would be presented to Congress last fall. You were wrong. There is no plan or proposal or negotiations going on the bring about the NAU or Amero. So either you're stupid or a liar.

p.s. As long as you keep calling Moder8 "traitor8" you're also a douchebag.

PS- I AM my own boss

AKA Unemployed

Welcome to the club my friends. Admission is free. Chris invites you. Soon you too will be stalked with the "racist" label, and then told to never to address Chris again, or say anything, ever again, in return to defend yourself.

Chris even has a few boosters left who think he should be left to spew and be safe from blow back in return.

Congrats Chris.

Half of all the posts above with the word "racist" in them are yours.

You make all the accusations of racism, save one who looked to be thoroughly sick of seeing what you say.

You are truely a piece of work.

Regards,
etc.

AKA Unemployed

Wrong again.

Wobbie! You flag me?! I'm touched! You care, you really care!

Posted by briwo


Briwo the other day you flat out called me a "fag" with other fun descriptive terms in it... it didn't get dumped... If I were flagging you that one surely would have been gone as that is a huge foul according to RCade...

Rob, I know. I was surprised myself.

If the NAU is a myth why is it that...

18 states have introduced resolutions calling on their federal representatives to halt work on the North American Union (they include Virginia and South Carolina)

3 of these states (Idaho, Montana and Oklahoma) have passed their resolutions

Oklahoma, which is in the path of the NAFTA superhighway component of the North American Union passed their resolution in the Senate 97-0.

22 U.S. Congressmen, including NC's Virginia Foxx and Walter Jones, along with all three Republican Congressmen running for President, have signed on as co-sponsors of HCR40, which calls on the executive branch to end all work on the North American Union and NAFTA superhighway.

Even the Sierra Club of Canada is sounding the alarm against the North American Union

We would add that if the North American Union is a myth why is it that Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) documents released under the FOIA show that a wide range of US administrative law is being re-written in stealth under this program to "integrate" and "harmonize" with administrative law in Mexico and Canada, just as has become commonplace within the EU.

The documents contain references to upwards of 13 working groups within an entire organized infrastructure that has drawn from officials within most areas of administrative government including U.S. departments of State, Homeland Security, Commerce, Treasury, Agriculture, Transportation, Energy, Health and Human Services, and the office of the U.S. Trade Representative."

And per supersecrets documents found on a UFO on the moon, the High Doge of the NAU met with his minions in an underground fortress near Area 51. There it was agreed to "leak" the ultra sensitive plans for this master operation to just a few highly select internet paranoia freaks.

Wow... Garrard may have just single handedly saved the Jags' season. I like that guy...

I know, good game.

"If the NAU is a myth why is it that..."

If the NAU isn't a myth why hasn't it been presented to Congress like NAFTA, CAFTA, etc? Why hasn't it been mentioned by the President?

Bottom line, wake me up when there is something official. You said it would be official last fall. You were wrong.

I'm just wondering if this latest action by Bush will finally convince any of you that still consider yourselves Republicans that George W. Bush doesn't give a crap about you or anyone in the working class???
If not then what will it take to make you face reality?

I'm just wondering if this latest action by Bush will finally convince any of you that still consider yourselves Republicans that George W. Bush doesn't give a crap about you or anyone in the working class???
If not then what will it take to make you face reality?

I'm just wondering if this latest action by Bush will finally convince any of you that still consider yourselves Republicans that George W. Bush doesn't give a crap about you or anyone in the working class???
If not then what will it take to make you face reality?

Certainly not a triple post.

TPS

Congrats Chris.

Half of all the posts above with the word "racist" in them are yours.

No. RightisRight brought race into it

No, the reason you're opposed to the Mexican trucks and not the Canadian kind is that the Mexicans don't look like you. At least Calif Chris is honest about it.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 08:43 PM | Reply

And that's ALL it took for the DR resident racebaiters like TPS, MODER8, and Bill O'REILLY to come slithering out of your holes and jump in. You never even entered the NAU/truck debate on here until it was a chance for you to jump in and racebait. You are the sick one, TPS.

Why is it you want open borders down here? I read you have quite enough problems of your own in Canada with tons of Chinese rolling up on your own shores and pouring into your country illegally by the thousands for refugee hearings. Or is that just more than fine with you? Hmmmmm? And why are you butting into our business down here? You don't live in this country so butt out. Find some political blog up north. Your country has plenty of problems of its own.

"And why are you butting into our business down here? You don't live in this country so butt out."

Shut the fuck up you xenophobe. This is the WORLD WIDE WEB. I like hearing the views of Canadians and other foreigners. You hate everything about foreigners. You're the real racist around here.

And why are you butting into our business down here? You don't live in this country so butt out. Find some political blog up north.

I'm sure you'd be saying this if he agreed with you 100%. Uh huh.

Why is it you want open borders down here?

Do you see your problem Chris?

Do you understand why you are such an idiot?

The only thing I ever have against anyone is when they are pro-stupid and I have to say, you are one hell of a booster for that team.

I never said what you claim above.

I've never implied the above.

My record (and conscience) is clear. I've said many times that a country has the right to control who it allows within its borders.

But you hate that.

You hate that I've said that. So, you keep manufacturing bullshit, and try putting in place of what myself and others have really said.

Because?

Because you are stupid enough to believe it will actually change things. Like the little child who keeps lying about the cookie they snuck while crumbs decorate their lips. So long as they keep saying it, their fragile little ego can say "See! I didn't LIE!"

Well Chris, you lied. You are lying now. You lied just above.

You lied because you knowingly manufacture statements you know someone hasn't said and try to stick them with it. You lied because you know your fragile ego doesn't want to confront the truth about who it really is.

Embrace yourself Chris. Take up the advice you received earlier and look in the mirror.

It is ugly.

I'm not the only one who sees it.

Regards,
etc.

TPS - STFU

You whiney posts about how "innocent" you are get pathetic. Your posts speak for themselves.

It is ugly.

I'm not the only one who sees it.

Regards,
etc.
TPS

HAH! Stealing the line from your fellow racebaiter MODER8 ? Nothing original of your own? As I said, your posts (and his/hers or whatever Moder8 is) speak for themselves.

You have a racist burr up your butt and -- believe me -- that IS one ugly sight to behold!

Let's reset the clock on the racist thing. I've no idea who was first, second, third or scored a run with it, but if everyone just dropped it it'll be easy to see who the first one is to bring it back up.

Just a suggestion.

TPS

I know you get no bigger thrill than coming back on and racebaiting when you think the other person is gone. I won't make you wait up all night to post your last ugly thoughts. I'm off this thread for tonight. People like you make me want to take a shower which is right where I'm going.
Slime away, Canadaboy.

GOATMAN

Just saw your thread now. I'd be more than happy to drop it as I never brought it up in the first place. In fact I'm off this thread for good.
Good idea -- let's see just who it is who brings the subject back up again on here.

Slime away, Canadaboy.

None of that either, cc. Attacking where someone is from is the same as the racist stuff

Chris

I fully expect you to hang around! You're three hours ahead of me brainiac.

Poor little Chris and his "STFU".

Wow.

You go with the schoolyard more and more. All the confirmation I think needed that you have a child's ego, and a fragile one at that.

Projection Chris. You are having one hell of a problem and you are projecting.

"More than happy"

Of course!

Now that Chris has thrown the shit he desperately wants to run bravely away and hope he can escape the consequences.

Doesn't work that way.

What you've written is libel Chris. Hate language in Canada and the laws are even tougher on that here.

Enjoy the hole you dug for yourself. It will be a long time climbing out.

And? You did bring it up to begin with. You cried wolf so often it got bored and left too.

Run away Chris. Bravely run away. It won't help. You and your obsessions keep coming right back to the surface again.

Regards,
etc.

Attacking where someone is from is the same as the racist stuff

I appreciate the even hand Goat but it is pissing in the wind I am afraid. Many thanks for trying to be an honest broker nevertheless.

Chris got huffy with me even about Muslims and then included that in his racism label too.

He has little sense about where he applies it.

(Chris: a little hint - Muslims are not all Arabic in origin; you might not know that being ignorant of multiculturalism and all).

Regards,
etc.

None of that either, cc. Attacking where someone is from is the same as the racist stuff

Posted by goatman at 2008-01-06 12:27

Okay.

...and Mr Integrity is back.

Do I need to bring up the posts where you said you would ban yourself from trying to out Ride_On's personal info to embarrass him?

Regards,
etc.

Are Canadian trucks allowed to drive on America's roads? If so, What's the diff?


Trust me on this one. Canada's rules are far more stringent than Mexico's.

I am responsible for shipping everything the company I work for builds. In the past year, I've shipped 3 14' x 10' x 12' packages into different parts of Canada and Mexico. You can't even compare the two.

I had one package stopped at the Canadian border for 3 days because the wheel base of the rig pulling the trailer was 1 foot too long.

Shoulda measured it in metric Axiom and they would have been so appreciative they'd turn a blind eye.

We had some real bad accidents in the Toronto area in the past few years from America truckers coming in with bad rigs. Whole wheel units coming off and killing oncoming motorists. They've really cleaned it up I'd say. Last summer the highways were closed down far less often with an American rig on its side, or coming to pieces in the middle of rush hour traffic.

What I hate now are the Alabama drivers who've never seen snow. They go onto an on ramp and flip the rig. One I remember well the guy had it hanging off the overpass, dangling over traffic below.

I missed and entire day's billing to my clients as I sat in traffic that inched through city streets while Mr. CCR learned the physics of frozen water.

Regards,
etc .

"Canada's rules are far more stringent than Mexico's."


Really?

Doesn't this accord "most favored nation" status to shippers who offload in Mexico?

Just know that the liberal left is for CLOSED BOARDERS - Yeah Riiiiight. They will really build the wall...

To argue against trucks from Mexico being able to deliver goods from Mexico in the US is ridiculous. It is fa more efficient to dliver dirctly than to have to transfer to to US trucks. It's a waste of money passed onto the US consumer. Also CalifChris, whining like a little Bennigan's bitch again, is so wrong about not using Mexican ports for Chinese goods. Even if this is true the reason why is American ports are slammed. Deep water berths are at 100% utilization. Geting goods delayed by transit through Mexico is more expensive than droppig off in the US. You have no fuckig clue as usual. The US is praying that Cuba opens up in order to have access to deep water ports in Cuba because the East coast is fully utilized.

As for illegals. Bring them on. The only people hurt by illegal workers are the bottom dregs who are too lazy to get an educaion or work hard. Illegals are here because they are motivated, entrepreneurs, healthy and have a good work ethic. We need more people like this to grow the economy unlike whiners like Califchris.

the other facts is every person against illegals also want immigration in general restricted. It is racsim that drives these motivations.

RR,
How about the fact that Canadian truckers have the same standard of living as Americans.
Mexican truckers are driving the wages down for American, and Canadian truckers, as well as the rest of the economy.
You're such a traitor to your country.
Do you get paid for typing your crap, or are you just that stupid?

"Mexican truckers are driving the wages down for American, and Canadian truckers, as well as the rest of the economy."

Jeff,
Bullshit, this is about transporting goods from Mexico to the US. Not about Mexican truck drivers operating freely in the US.

Ad you are completely fuckng clueless about the economy Mexican workers are what has kept it going. You need available labor to grow the economy.

"Mexican truckers are driving the wages down for American, and Canadian truckers, as well as the rest of the economy."

Jeff,
Bullshit, this is about transporting goods from Mexico to the US. Not about Mexican truck drivers operating freely in the US.

Ad you are completely fuckng clueless about the economy Mexican workers are what has kept it going. You need available labor to grow the economy.


Posted by furio
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You again furio? You are completely clueless when it comes to Mexican truckers operating in the US. I can assure you Mexican trucks are not going to be "deadheading" (without cargo) back to Mexico. That is an American driver that won't be getting the trip at American wages.Other economies around the world are just fine without illegal help and our economy was much better when it was more Unionized. A dollar bought more and the standard of living was better.Get you head out of your ass for once.

Furio demonstrates that he knows absolutely nothing about the effects of illegal immjigration.
Reducing wages for the working class is the effect of illegal immigration, that's a fact. Workers in various fields especially including construction have seen wages fall by as much as 50%, many job sites will only hire spanish speaking workers. Does that effect the price of the construction projects, nope, supply and demand still dictates the price. Only idiots who haven't yet felt the effects of illegal immigration themselves make such stupid comments as Furio does.

Furio demonstrates that he knows absolutely nothing about the effects of illegal immjigration.
Reducing wages for the working class is the effect of illegal immigration, that's a fact. Workers in various fields especially including construction have seen wages fall by as much as 50%, many job sites will only hire spanish speaking workers. Does that effect the price of the construction projects, nope, supply and demand still dictates the price. Only idiots who haven't yet felt the effects of illegal immigration themselves make such stupid comments as Furio does.

Well. Trucks built and sold to the mexican transportation companies do NOT meet the requirements of the DOT, as prescribed in the mcr.
They do not keep the records required under the DOT as well.
States must pay for their own truck inspectors, and there are not enough now.
Trucks built for both the US and canadian markets are identical, but canada does have a more stringent maintenance requirement.
RiR uses the tired argument that it would reduce costs, that would be passed on to citizens.
That didnt work out too well for the electronics industry, and i never saw the savings when the auto-makers went south. Just more profits to people whom do not produce. All the while claiming to be looking out for their "fellow" American citizens. As for the comment regarding the cost of a pair of jeans, they are priced the same, but everything, including the fabric and manufacture is inferior to days gone by.
Does not matter where on this earth you are born, the language that you speak, the color of your skin. We are ALL the same race, same contiguous species.
Lastly, Zatoichi, that is one fine cat that claimed you as its friend, it is amazing what critters can teach and show us about life. Sadly, there are too many dead cats these days.

It's only a matter of time before Mexico turns into a conduit for Chinese goods. Soon Chinese freighters will use Mexican ports, send their cargo to Mexican distribution centers, and then use Mexican trucks to send their garbage straight to Wal Mart stores across the USA.

Katie describes the future as planned by the corporate oligarchy who long ago forgot about America and have become internationalists.
What is good for America is no longer a consideration, only their own bottom line matters.
Scum.

"George Bush is a great president"
Bowa

"Only idiots who haven't yet felt the effects of illegal immigration themselves make such stupid comments as Furio does."

Danni, That's because some of us work our asses off to move up in the world rather than exist as unskilled lazy bastards who expect the whole economy to slow down so they can get a handout. I began working when I was ten years old cleaning up my grade school to earn money for college. I came from a blue collar family where there was a real work ethic and a drive to improve yourself. (you sound like the opposite, lazy trash) I moved my ass up the food chain by working and studying at the same. After college I realized my job could be outsourced so I moved myself up into management.

I think the governmet should fund the education of low income americans who work hard and study to go to university. it's in the best interest of the county to help the ambitious and smart to succeed and improve themselves.

The 5% lazy shits like yourself and CalfChris should not be catered to in the US. Improve yourself, shut up or get out. We don't need you.

Bring as many illegal hard working Mexicans or anyone else into the country to improve it though.

As for safety I would expect the Mexican truckers to be far better than the average American driver. The trucking companies will only be sending fully certified trucks and their best drivers. With all of the racism and anger against Mexican truck drivers do you think they will risk any problems in the US? What do you think these people are stupid or primitive? Obviously none of you anti-Mexican fuckards here have ever been to Mexico City or anywhere else outside of Tijuana at best. Most Mexicans have little urge to move to the US especially these truck drivers.

Another example of Government by the Oligarchy.

Peace and prosperity involves Resources, Labor, Technology and Capital. It is the responsibility of Government to balance the opposing interests between labor and capital. Instead our Government has attacked Labor, Reagan was especially vicious and Shrub has consistently mimicked him.

We live in a system of legalized extortion and military diplomacy riff with fraud. The short term consequence has been record Corporate profits. The long term consequence will be a shrinking of our consumer market.

To our Oligarchy, Democracy and Law are irrelevant. With money and power you just do what you want. As part of the Oligarchy the Supremes always have the last word anyway.

Furio posted:
"The only people hurt by illegal workers are the bottom dregs who are too lazy to get an educaion or work hard. Illegals are here because they are motivated, entrepreneurs, healthy and have a good work ethic."
Furio--
I'm amazed at your ignorance. Do you live in an area infested with illegals? I do. Property values plummet. Rental proporty has two or three families living in it (also illegal) and trash, noise, crime all escalate. I'm completely for legal immigration..my wife is a legal immigrant and she is legally going through the system. The illegals are here beause INS is overwhelmed and they can get free education and healthcare here (which we pay for with increased taxes) while sending all of their earnings back to Mexico. Illegals don't invest in America and most don't pay SS or income taxes. And for good measure, I'll repeat what I have posted here before: what part of ILLEGAL don't you understand?

Sam,

If you live in a low income fringe area you will be living with illegals. Yes, this is true. But fringe area proprty is plumetting all over the US. It's not the illegals' fault but the idiots who bought overpriced property with a crap mortgage in a crap neighborhood.

But I have known many illegals living in the US. (They are easy to spot they do virtually every low income labor intensive activity in most US cities) And I would prefer to have them as neighbors before any low income Americans. I like people who work hard to move ahead rather than lazy bastards who cry about competition.

Bush can not say he against he illegal drugs and allow this. Unfettered access of Mexican trucks will FLOOD this country with illegal drugs.

The only people hurt by illegal workers are the bottom dregs who are too lazy to get an educaion or work hard.


Really? That's quite possibly the funniest fucking line I've ever seen typed on this site. So all those plumbers, construction workers, farm hands and factory workers who are losing their jobs to illegals are "the bottom dregs".

Face it. You like illegal aliens because it allows your corporate sponsors to make a fucking killing because they no longer have to keep up with Unions or Worker's Rights.

As for safety I would expect the Mexican truckers to be far better than the average American driver. The trucking companies will only be sending fully certified trucks and their best drivers. With all of the racism and anger against Mexican truck drivers do you think they will risk any problems in the US? What do you think these people are stupid or primitive? Obviously none of you anti-Mexican fuckards here have ever been to Mexico City or anywhere else outside of Tijuana at best. Most Mexicans have little urge to move to the US especially these truck drivers.

Posted by furio
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Are you posting just to get a response or what. No one can be this thick unless on cool aid.Yes I think the Mexican govt is stupid and primitive. It is no secret that the govt, police etc are just as bad as the worst criminals. As far as ever being to Mexico there was a prominent piece in todays newspaper warning of traveling to the most popular places in Mexico. That is saying nothing of goint off the beaten path. You must be on the payroll of the Mexican govt or maybe conservative talk radio.

After college I realized my job could be outsourced so I moved myself up into management.

Posted by furio
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Why don't you tell us how many people you managed that are ready to step into your shoes. I'll bet none because I've worked for people like you. You make sure you never give enough info to those below in order that can never advance so you can stay on the top rung. You don't like unions because they take that away from you with job training. Take advantage of those low rung low wage types because they don't threaten you.Your a typical conservate and echo the top conservative talk show host in America. Hooray for me and screw everybody else. If they don't get it too bad. Somehow I don't think you'll ever be nominated for father of the year.

(continued)

The perspective of the CFR report allows us to see President Bush's speech to the nation as nothing more than public relations posturing and window dressing. No wonder President Vincente Fox called President Bush in a panic after the speech. How could the President go back on his word to Mexico by actually securing our border? Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past.

The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated:

The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments' physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America.

Discovering connections like this between the CFR recommendations and Bush administration policy gives credence to the argument that President Bush favors amnesty and open borders, as he originally said. Moreover, President Bush most likely continues to consider groups such as the Minuteman Project to be "vigilantes," as he has also said in response to a reporter's question during the March 2005 meeting with President Fox.

Why doesn't President Bush just tell the truth? His secret agenda is to dissolve the United States of America into the North American Union. The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. Securing our border with Mexico is evidently one of the jobs President Bush just won't do. If a fence is going to be built on our border with Mexico, evidently the Minuteman Project is going to have to build the fence themselves. Will President Bush protect America's sovereignty, or is this too a job the Minuteman Project will have to do for him?

Shitwerks,

What are you doing on this thread trying to show how much of a racist you are? Or just a lazy little bitch scared that a Mexican can out perform you? Or both?

Get an education learn macro economics. Qualify to be a shift manager at Subway at least.

I'm far from conservative asshole. I just recognize economic forces when I see them like labor demand and dumb useless fuckers. Get rid of all illegals then you'll get a recession and inflation. You can't have growth without labor.

And asshole I was in a union. Just about every family of mine was as well at one point.

Look just get your GED and you'll be okay and not have to worry about any "Beaner" stealing your lawn mowing money.

The goal is to undercut American wages and replace American drivers with people of dubious skill who will work ridiculous hours for nothing. Maybe some of the right-wing, Bush supporting long-haul drivers I used to work with will wake up now. I guess they can always volunteer to fight in Iraq, defending an America that stabs them in the back at home.

The murderous Mexican drug cartels are on their knees thanking Bush for allowing them to unleash a flood of meth and crack upon america through this unfettered Mexican truck access.

Makes you wonder, how much money did they give to Bush?

CalifChris, dont waste your time arguing with the likes of RIR. He will just deny any information you show him. They say ignorance is bliss for a reason. The more he denies the truth the better he feels about his little life and his support of the President. I would work on converting and informing those that might actually be open to the message and not so much on those who continue to deny reality.

Are Canadian trucks allowed to drive on America's roads? If so, What's the diff?

Posted by rightisright


So you beleive that there is no difference between Mexican and Canadian safety regulations concerning these trucks?

Are you serious?

Bush can not say he against he illegal drugs and allow this. Unfettered access of Mexican trucks will FLOOD this country with illegal drugs.

Posted by The_Cynic at 2008-01-06 02:11 PM |


How else is the boy supposed to get his next coke fix?

I'm just glad that so many democrat presidential candidates have spoken out against open borders to our south. I'm happy they have been against from the start and once in office they will put a stop to it - Yeah RIIIIGHT! [and which party's president signed NAFTA?]

Go ahead and try to convince me that once Obama, or whoever on the left gets into office, everything will fixed and all the world will be wonderful.

NorthLimaDawg quotes an article by Jerome Corsi. LOL.
The mastermind of the Swift Boating lies against Kerry. I can't possibly think of a less credible source in this country than Corsi. Un-fuckin-believable.

Go ahead and try to convince me that once Obama, or whoever on the left gets into office, everything will fixed and all the world will be wonderful.

Posted by MSgt
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Putting the Republicans in will tell them we agree with them and do more of the same. With Dems at least there is a chance we won't be going down the drain quite as fast. You can't do better than that and who knows maybe the Dems will follow through.

Nothing will be changed, regardless of who wins the election. PLEASE keep this in mind. NOTHING!!! Anybody who really, really believes things will change has got to be smoking wacky, wacky weed.

What are you doing on this thread trying to show how much of a racist you are? Or just a lazy little bitch scared that a Mexican can out perform you? Or both?

Get an education learn macro economics. Qualify to be a shift manager at Subway at least.

I'm far from conservative asshole. I just recognize economic forces when I see them like labor demand and dumb useless fuckers. Get rid of all illegals then you'll get a recession and inflation. You can't have growth without labor.

And asshole I was in a union. Just about every family of mine was as well at one point.

Look just get your GED and you'll be okay and not have to worry about any "Beaner" stealing your lawn mowing money.

Posted by furio
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Yea your management material all right. For your information I do have a degree in management and I have a business on the side. If you really do have a degree in macroeconomics get your money back because it never taught you that there is more to life than the bottom line. Not to be a bleeding heart but I know that if the citizens don't find the environment conducive to rising up and maintaining their standard of living they will simply take it from those who do. You should have attended your history classes too. As for illegals being needed here you are in dreamland. Other economies are doing just fine without them and some of the finest cars in the world are being built in countries with the highest unionization. Maybe their is time for you to take some night courses and unlearn that Machiavelian mindset because you will soon be unemployed with yours if you aren't already.

Nothing will be changed, regardless of who wins the election. PLEASE keep this in mind. NOTHING!!! Anybody who really, really believes things will change has got to be smoking wacky, wacky weed.

Posted by farmerjohn
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Then why are you posting?

Look just get your GED and you'll be okay and not have to worry about any "Beaner" stealing your lawn mowing money.

Posted by furio
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You're probably to cheap to pay one to mow your lawn.

Reznwerks,

You're a sap.

Reznwerks,

Just get your GED. You'll be more competitive then an illegal at that point.

I guess you also have a problem with paying American citizens "under the table" then?

I've been away from the thread for awhile, but want to ring in and say that I take CalifChris's word for it that his acrimony isn't racist. I do believe he has tunnel vision on this issue, and find it curious that we can be insouciant about Canadian trucks running free on our roads, yet demur when Mexican trucks do, given that they both must meet the same stringent requirements American firms do.

I don't believe he's racist, though. Maybe just a little . . . touchy. And since it was my post that kicked things in that direction, a disclaimer was necessary.

""and find it curious that we can be insouciant about Canadian trucks running free on our roads, yet demur when Mexican trucks do"

That would be because you don't care what the drivers of those trucks are paid. Apparently, it doesn't bother you that we would allow American Companies to set up shop in Mexico specifically to avoid paying decent American wages to truckers.
I don't argue in technicalities, etc. This issue is about wages, about America jobs. About families in America losing their incomes. About American owner/operators losing their businesses.
There is nothing wrong with Americans standing up for our own jobs. We have no obligation to let foreign truckers come in and take over trucking or any other industry in this country. REst assured, if it were that other country's jobs they would fight tooth and nail to protect them. Check the Mexican immigration laws, see what they do when Guatamalens try to emmigrate to Mexico and go to work there.
Americans have been sold a bill of goods that we somehow owe it to the rest of the world to let our corporations sell out all of our American workers. We ought to pass laws to protect our jobs and life styles and if the corporations don't like it then they can sell their goods somewhere else. Trust me, there will be companies anxious to make goods, on our terms, to sell to the American market.

Again, if your concern is that American truckers aren't being paid properly and are suffering at the hands of these Mexican truckers, why don't you mind the tens of thousands of Canadian trucks on American roads? Aren't they taking Americans' jobs too?

Look, you can't have it both ways. You can't protest on the one hand Mexicans coming over to pick our vegetables, but give the Japanese a pass for setting up engineering companies. Every time a foreign truck enters the United States, that is freight that could just as easily have been shipped by UPS or FEDEX or Colonial Freightlines by Americans--you can't say it's OK for the Canadians to come over, but not the Mexicans--there's no difference. Does the Teamster who didn't get the contract for the haul feel better that he lost out to a Canadian, versus a Mexican?

If so, there's only one reason.

Americans are having a drop in real income due to the idiots driving up the price of housing by speculation. That has nothing to do with corporations or Mexicans.

Construction jobs and salaries are down not due to illegals but because no one is building shit right now due to, you guessed it, idiots speculating and driving the housing market.

Trucking is down. Not to Mexicans but, you guessed it, to the economic slowdown because no one has money because, that's right, idiots overspent on their shitty mortgages.

The only thing you can peg the corporations to is an overall collusion to fix salaries. There is a huge demand for IT skills but no one is willing to raise salaries for example.

Illegals (Mexicans) have nothing to do with lower salaries and economic downturn.

"Illegals (Mexicans) have nothing to do with lower salaries"

Just a guess, but...you've never taken Econ 101, have you?

How about this: look up the textbook description of supply and demand, and then get back to us.

"Again, if your concern is that American truckers aren't being paid properly and are suffering at the hands of these Mexican truckers, why don't you mind the tens of thousands of Canadian trucks on American roads?"

Canadians earn equivalent wages to US or better, Mexican earn a small fraction of American wages.
require wages for all three to be equal to the prevailing American wage for truck drivers and I have no problem with Mexican trucks but then there would be no economic advantage and thus no Mexican trucks.

"Illegals (Mexicans) have nothing to do with lower salaries and economic downturn."

Absolutely bull shit, I personally know several young guys who work (or worked) in the construction trades and have had their own pay reduced or else lose their jobs....because....the boss said he could hire illegals. Only a liar wouldn't admit that is the truth and I generally don't continue discussions with liars.

You guys need to quit reading your talking points from the Teamsters Union, and realize that as soon as the trucks pass the line, they're subject to US laws and registration requirements. Duh. Just like Canadian firms, just like an Alabama company driving over to Louisiana--notoriously the worst state for pulling over trucks for imagined offenses, btw.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-01-05 08:43 PM | Reply |

There is a big difference between being subject to, and actually having them enforced.

One particular aspect of the law requires a US trucking company keep several years worth of logs and that those logs be ready for inspection by the CHP upon request. Easy enough, CHP drives to our office we sit him in front of the computer or the filing cabinet and he goes to work. But now what if that office holding those logs is in southern mexico. And the company and driver are conspiring to hide hours, your never going to find shit like that.

Its hard enough finding these sort of deceptions when the company is completely behind it, and its just the driver obfuscating.

The point I'm trying to make is, laws or not alot of effort goes into the enforcement aspect of it, alot of that enforcement comes from the trucking companies themselves. As doing things like running over 15 hours does not make our insurance carriers happy. But if the company is now in mexico, and its operations not in plain site for the US to see, how does anyone really know whats going on.

That whole comment about being the most vetted, etc..etc.. is a complete fucking joke. If I parked one of our trucks next to a truck from Mexico, you'd see a heck of a lot more difference than the driver being brown. And furthermore, in my neck of the woods, most of our drivers are mexican brown to begin with. So for me, the idea of racism on this is kinda laughable.

The idea that mexico would only send they're best and brightest, is also pretty funny. Mexican trucks don't just come across the border for fun, they come because they've been contracted by a company to deliver a load at the cheapest possible price! This is an industry where there is not alot of concern when choosing what trucking company to use with regards to "quality". Never once have I built a routing system where "quality" was ever a factor, its about cost, and how fast can it get there. Otherwise, everyone would just go UPS and be done with it. And we wouldn't need any silly NAFTA, because it would just be a UPS mexico division office.

Every time a foreign truck enters the United States, that is freight that could just as easily have been shipped by UPS or FEDEX or Colonial Freightlines by Americans--you can't say it's OK for the Canadians to come over, but not the Mexicans--there's no difference. Does the Teamster who didn't get the contract for the haul feel better that he lost out to a Canadian, versus a Mexican?

If so, there's only one reason.

Posted by rightisright
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Be serious. Do you have any idea what "freight" is? No company is shipping common carrier when they could ship UPS or Fed EX. Yes we can say the Canadians can come over and the Mexicans cannot because the Canadians have proved themselves over and over not only in transportation but other areas that they are responsible and detailed. The Mexicans have proven otherwise. There is a lot of variables when it comes to quoting frieght. If the American lost to a Canadian it could be for any number of reasons but on the whole they are pretty well matched when it comes to competition. American companies outbid each other all the time and it usually is because of pennies . That is what true competition is all about. You maximize the best assets you have and pitch it. When you compete against companies that beat you not only in wages, but the cost of fuel(bought in Mexico from Pemex which is owned by Mexico) substandard trucks and maintainance, using one driver when two would be needed here there is no way to compete.

Just get your GED. You'll be more competitive then an illegal at that point.

I guess you also have a problem with paying American citizens "under the table" then?

Posted by furio
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You keep posting about GEDs etc so I guess you know all about them.
Yes I do have a problem with paying anyone under the table and apparantly many in the Republitards tent don't as they have had their hand slapped a few times for this illegal activity. If you are a "manager" I would be careful. You might be in the unemployement line before you know it if this is how you run your business or maybe this is the only way you can be profitable. The more you post the more you reveal how little you actually know.

Can you say MexAmeriCanada real fast 3 times.

Our sovereignty is quickly dissolving. Our laws as we know it are changing. The Country we grew up in is vanishing.

The United Nations are telling us what to do. Why?

Someone in this country sold us out and I am not sure who?

Our dollar drops in value everyday. Get ready for 1927 tens times worse.

Mutual funds are going to be a relic with the bad road ahead for the market. Check your IRA. America is losing value everyday.

Doom and Gloom. Let's hope our next president and congress does not put the final nail in the casket.

We need change!

Americans are having a drop in real income due to the idiots driving up the price of housing by speculation. That has nothing to do with corporations or Mexicans.

Construction jobs and salaries are down not due to illegals but because no one is building shit right now due to, you guessed it, idiots speculating and driving the housing market.

Trucking is down. Not to Mexicans but, you guessed it, to the economic slowdown because no one has money because, that's right, idiots overspent on their shitty mortgages.

The only thing you can peg the corporations to is an overall collusion to fix salaries. There is a huge demand for IT skills but no one is willing to raise salaries for example.

Illegals (Mexicans) have nothing to do with lower salaries and economic downturn.

Posted by furio
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You can't be this stupid. No one said trucking is down because of Mexicans as this hasn't started yet.
No one said construction jobs are down because of Mexicans either. Salaries are dropping and have been steadily even in boom times because of cheap labor coming mainly from Mexico.
Yes there is a big demand for IT skills and salaries are not rising not because of collusion but because the jobs are being farmed out to primarily Indian workers both here and abroad.
Mexicans don't have anything to do with an economic downturn but they do have everything to do with depressing wages and salaries. What was that school you graduated from? You really should consider asking for a refund.