come on, who is really surprised that the leading liberal asswipe in the media is so biased and bigoted toward the religion of a conservative front runner........as we all know ...all that talk about liberals being compassionate and concerned with diversity is just more lies and bullshit.......

"just more lies and bullshit......."

Speaking of "just more lies and bullshit":

Biased, Lies and Bullshit aside...

Mormons have held that belief of blacks, among others.

Has this asshole expounded on the religion peace with such vehemence?

she will attack ANYTHING that does not coincide with her ways - tolerant? i think not.

she needs to shut up and fade into that big, black hole of obscurity that only she can fill. hopefully, nobody takes her seriously.

She?

Nanc,


Agreed regarding Rosie.

However, this isn't about Rosie.


Lawrence O'Donnell launched a blistering attack on Mormon religious beliefs

The Mormons are a bit peculiar in their beliefs, but much less so than most New Agers I met.

This woman likely attacks Mormonism because it seems a safe way to get at Christianity as a whole.

Too slow, Hans.

:-)

I'm sorry---It looks like the bigot in this case is a male. However, faced with a choice, it would probaby be safer to let an average Mormon babysit my kids than whatever this guy is the average example of.

Posted by coyote at 2007-12-10 08:58 AM
Posted by JeffJ at 2007-12-10 08:58 AM
Posted by Hans at 2007-12-10 08:58 AM

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Hans

this is a part of the backlash that I mentioned on the other thread.....

the left and its lapdog media is SCARED OUT OF THIER MINDS that something like this might join the christian american voter into supporting one candidate.....and IF that were to happen.......THE RACE IS OVER.....and they know it.......so they now have to discredit this one of the greatest speach of modern politics.........
and they also have to make sure that we dont understand that jfk cemented his win with a similar speach and that george washington and john adams said virtually the same things......

one more time.....the left IS SCARED TO DEATH OF THIS gaining ground in christian america....because THEY dont just bitch and then go drinking (young dems)or have to be bussed to the polls..
THEY VOTE.......

"Too slow, Hans."

Yes, JeffJ, I came in 3rd at 08:58 AM, but mine had a link! ;0)

Hans

The last time a bunch of Mormons killed in the name of religion was way back in the mid 1800s. I don't think you can compare them with 'the religon of peace' that is rearing its ugly head now.

By the way, what do Al and Jessie think about the division of color? Seems to me they make their living by keeping that one going.

One reason I enjoy being a Christian is that it allows me to join hands occasionally with my friend Bushlover.

I identify with the Left as a Christian, but I have to admit there are times they don't seem to identify with me.

Maybe it's just this blog. Don't know.

WATCH OUT KERRIN......you have made an honest mistake and now you might have hans on your ass.......well not literally, but you know what I mean..........
and if they werent so in love with themselves, theleftists here would admit that when it just said.....ODONNELL.....there were a lot of people who thought of the loud mouth fat bitch named rosie..........

but about where you are now......you had better be ready to drop to your knees and ask forgiveness and beg like a dog to the halter of hans.....otherwise he will lie and bullshit and hound you about a simple mistake.........

These attacks are silly. Romney has a record as a govenor. Look at that. Then determine whether he represents what you want in a president. Intollerant people like this O'Donnell character should be ingnored. Look at the man's record.

The Mormon religion isn't Christian. I grew up in a Mormon family. Even though my dad left the church before I was born.
I know more about their religion than I care to.
If you look at the icons on their temples it is masonic and satanic.
Jesus is just their cover story.
The elders in the church practice rituals very similar to scull and bones or the masons, and they do weird ceremonies were they say spirits of the dead come into them and give them visions.

They have large portions of their investments in the military industrial complex, and porn.

Don't believe me. Do the research.



So I say hurrah for Rosie, and BLT is ignorantly defending the wrong side again. It is scary that he teaches our youth.

Blt2's off his meds again.

Oops! I misread the headline! I thought it was Rosie O'donnell
Hehehe!
My bad!

I wouldn't trust a Mormon/politician to walk my dog.

One of my best friends is Mormon. There is nothing in the least Satanic about him or his behavior. He's a good and honest man. But perhaps he sacrifices cats late at night. Who would know?

"theleftists here would admit that when it just said.....ODONNELL.....there were a lot of people who thought of the loud mouth fat bitch named rosie.........."

Posted by a proven liar who claims he's a retired teacher

Oops:

O'Donnell Attacks Mormon Beliefs

Lawrence O'Donnell launched a blistering attack on Mormon religious beliefs during Sunday's episode of the McLaughlin Report. O'Donnell said of Mitt Romney...

Sniper is right.
Google "Mountain meadows massacre".
The Mormons dressed up like indians and massacred a wagontrain of Missourians, and stole all of the goods.
real peaceful folks.

They also have/had they're own secret society of assassins called the black angels.

'the left and its lapdog media is SCARED OUT OF THIER MINDS that something like this might join the christian american voter into supporting one candidate"

BLT, if you'd listened to what O'Donnell had to say, early on he made an important point: Willard Romney cannot speak about the details of his religion---Jesus running around the New World, Kolob, etc.---because it would completely alienate the GOP evangelical base. Why do you think Huckabee's surging in places where Romney's poured in mountains of cash? Because he has a secret weight-loss plan? Because of his intimate and obvious familiarity with foreign affairs?

And religion is a fair topic when these guys try to use it to garner votes. Run a Muslim for president sometime and see if religion is "off the table."

Do you think being a snobby asshole bolsters your shollow self esteem?

"My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns"

"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand"

James Watt

"of course with taxes back up over 50% because of dems in congress....."

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2007-11-15 11:02 AM

Hans

Posted by Hans at 2007-12-10 08:24 AM | Reply

Hans, you retard. I understand that you are now stalking BLT with your relentless badgering, but you are wrong again. You harp on federal income tax and ignore the rest of the burden.

Federal taxes +
state taxes +
local property taxes +
sales taxes +
excise taxes +
special taxing districts and assessments +
fuel taxes +
alcohol taxes + t
tobacco taxes +
soft drink taxes (you didn't know about that one, did you?) +
business taxes (passed along in the cost of things) +
all the other ways that governments chisel away.

All of the taxes combined exceed 50% of income.

Now, go take a shower. It's Monday.

Joseph Smith. Interesting individual. He left a big clue on what he was doing by creating this new religion. The revelation came from an angle named Moroni - and somehow that's where Mormon came from.

If that was true, they wouldn't be called Mormons

They'd be called Morons.

(yeah, old joke)

I'm not religous, but I know enough about the bible that it says not to put any other books before the bible.
So what do the Mormons do? They write their own bible.
If you go to a Mormon service, they don't hand out bibles. They hand out the book of mormon.
Have you ever read the book of mormon? Pure crap!

James Watt!?!? WHAT!?!!?!?
Thanks, Zatoichi, that sure brought back some memories.
Remember:

"I have a black, a woman, two Jews and a cripple. And we have talent."

thank you vernon.....its about time someone told hans just how bored we are with his 'problem'.....

and.......

And religion is a fair topic when these guys try to use it to garner votes. Run a Muslim for president sometime and see if religion is "off the table."


Posted by Doc_Sarvis at


doc.....I dont think anything should be off the table..........and its not surprising that there is so much yaking and bloviating and emotion...
I mean think about it....what have you always heard to avoid talking about.....religion and politics.....and here we have BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER>....its not surprising at all to have some explosive moments..........

and your muslim comment has much merit.....of course I dont recall the last time a group of mormons blasted themselves and others into little pieces or flew any planes into large building..........and well....you get the point....

"Stupid, superstitious lunatics...."

Get invited to a lot of parties, do we?

BLT,
You can't remember any Mormon terrorists?
Have you forgotten the Osmonds?

"thank you vernon.....its about time someone told hans just how bored we are with his 'problem'....."

Posted by a proven liar who claims he's a retired teacher

Not my problem. I wasn't the one who lied when he posted:

Zat says blindly, "Morons is more like it, like all the other stupid, superstitious lunatics."

Actually, Mormons are on average the smartest, most successful and well disciplined of any other Christian group. Their morals are superior and they avoid drugs and other habit forming substances which are generally detrimental to good health.

You don't like them for their success and principled/moral existence(s) ... and because they generally vote along conservative lines ...

You feel inferior to them, due to your bad habits, subversive politics and relatively unsuccessful life, in comparison ...

Besides ... you are a Leftist and, or Democratic hatemonger who wants to lose a war because it will gain your party some treasonous power ...

Of course you and your ilk hate people with principle sand moral correctness!

WATCH OUT KERRIN......you have made an honest mistake and now you might have hans on your ass.......well not literally, but you know what I mean..........

POSTED BY BLT

In BLT's fantasy world making comments on an article without even reading it is an "honest mistake". That explains a lot.

han, its not just the dems, it is the total liberal policy of big government that is hurting us. That policy was realy stretched under FDR and then again under LBJ. There are many reps that go along with it.

That's right Tad!!!
You got us!!
We're filled with communist class envy because mormons are successful!!!

what have you always heard to avoid talking about.....religion and politics.....

Absolutely great rule if you're attempting to involve heating up the atmosphere and entering into a discussion that can quickly become an argument.

and here we have BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER>....its not surprising at all to have some explosive moments..........

Uh-oh. We agree. It's the two of them dumped into the same holding tank that creates a combustible mix.


and your muslim comment has much merit.....

Salaam.

of course I dont recall the last time a group of mormons blasted themselves and others into little pieces or flew any planes into large building..........and well....you get the point....

I think so. But it's not a particularly valid one. Isn't that like saying Christians are the only people to have used atomic bombs against other people (interestingly enough, nearly all of them non-Christians), so they can't be trusted with nukes?

What I detest, and you've picked up on it, is the mix of politics and religion. Unfortunately, by proclaiming himself a "Christian leader" Huckabee pulls the two together; as does Romney in his comments, esp. those about the threat of secularist thinking.

However much Christians---particularly, it appears, evangelical Christians---perceive themselves threatened by a secular state, I can assure you that there are boatloads of people who perceive themselves threatened by a state in which one branch of government is dominated by people who carry out religion's agenda in the name of public policy.

Speaking of parties---A very long time my wife attended a faculty party for (ahem) scientists and their graduate students.

The centerpiece activity there was driving three-penny nails through each other's scrotums. For the males, that is.

What the women were doing my wife didn't hang around to notice. However, the point of this story is that it marks one of those several things that made me re-consider scientists.

Now, it's possible there were Mormons or other persons of religion engaging in this behavior, but given it was Berkeley, very doubtful.

It's just, I suppose, an example of where rational thought can lead someone on their off hours. Or maybe these people were only rational while they were on the job?

As for me, I'll take church. Y'all can have the nails, the hammers, and the plywood boards.

Tad must not know very many Mormons.
Most of the ones I know drink on saturday and go to church on Sunday.
And Mormon girls are one notch down the scale of floozieness than Catholic girls.

The old Mormon joke,
what do Mormon girls put behind their ears to attract boys?
Their feet.

As for me, I'll take church. Y'all can have the nails, the hammers, and the plywood boards.

Where would Christianity be without nails, hammers, and boards?

My girlfriend worked in an office where she was the only non-mormon. They used to order pizza and wings once a week for a mormon only lunch. They'd all gather in the back room and leave her by herself out front. She used to call me on the phone crying.
Wonderful folks.

FF, Doc!

I guess she was just envious of their success.

Rasta says, "That's right Tad!!! You got us!! We're filled with communist class envy because mormons are successful!!!"

You're sure filled with resentment, that's for sure! None of you Leftists and, or Democratics (communists are utopianists) want to discipline yourselves or deny yourselves the thrill of some drug, some sexual act or some other sensory system shock you can experience to ruin your health and mental abilities, or make your anal sphincters unfunctional by the age of 40 ...

Go for it! Abort yourselves into extinction, ruin your health, play at being petty traitors so you can win for party over subverting a war all the USA is involved in fighting ...

I want you to act out this way. To lash out in fear and anger over those who are better than you. To show yourselves as the hate-filled, anti-patriotic party ever willing to support our enemies if it means a few extra votes for your hideous gang of perverts and hip-hop philosophers ...

Please continue to do so ... I'm counting on it!

Sir, Yes sir!!!

Come on, who is really surprised that the leading liberal asswipe in the media is so biased and bigoted toward the religion of a conservative front runner........as we all know ...all that talk about liberals being compassionate and concerned with diversity is just more lies and bullshit.......

Posted by bushlovertwo


How did Lawrence O'Donnell become the "leading liberal asswipe" again? Is it me, or does this title go to whoever happens to hand a republican their ass on any given day?

And BLT, you and I both know Christians are NOT big on diversity. They're also big on lies and bullshit.

BLT,
You can't remember any Mormon terrorists?
Have you forgotten the Osmonds?

Posted by JeffnDenmark at


WOW........a funny remark from denmark........
LOOK OUT>........there go those damn pigs flying......JK

good one.

BLT regurgitates talking points rather than addressing what O'Donnell actually said because that would involve thought and logic.

In Hollywood, they deny jobs to those who aren't Democratics, or otherwise demonstrate their perverse natures ...

I feel for your friend, though. I once worked at a place where they got together once a week and talked macrame and crocheting --- they never once invited me ...

People are so cruel. We should have a pogrom against "Knotting" and like you Leftists and, or Democratics have a pogrom against Christians ...

That will show them, eh? Wait until those Christians get a taste of Leftist and, or Democratic re-education camps ...

Jesus Tad, did you get raped at summer camp when you were a kid? Where does all this crazy shit come from?

I'm thinking the operation on Tad's sphincter didn't go so well. Tightened things up a bit too much, hence his resentment.

Would also explain the "shit for brains" issue.

In BLT's fantasy world making comments on an article without even reading it is an "honest mistake". That explains a lot.

Posted by RastaCyborg at 2007


yeah.,,,well uh..........why dont you have ten people just glance at the headline and then ask them the FIRST person that came to thier mind and it would be this biased slim MAYBE 2 or 3 of those people of any side........with the media swooning all over people like the fat dyke, and with most people not even knowing who this prejudiced asswipe is anyway..........then they could come even from your world......( do do do do, do do do do......twilight zone music) would make that same mistake.....

In Hollywood, they deny jobs to those who aren't Democratics, or otherwise demonstrate their perverse natures ...

Wow, since that would be against the law it's shocking that we've never heard about it.
You're right though; just last week I was in Hollywood and I saw Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson and Ahhhnold living together in a cardboard box eating cat food to survive.

yeah.,,,well uh..........why dont you have ten people just glance at the headline and then ask them the FIRST person that came to thier mind and it would be this biased slim MAYBE 2 or 3 of those people of any side........with the media swooning all over people like the fat dyke, and with most people not even knowing who this prejudiced asswipe is anyway..........then they could come even from your world......( do do do do, do do do do......twilight zone music) would make that same mistake.....

Posted by bushlovertwo

Are you wearing a helmet by any chance?

Real men are from Mars, but Democratics ilk types with one or more testicles are from Venus.
Real women are from Venus, but Democratics shemales are from Mars.
Me, I'm from Joopiter, so I'm ready for you.
Bring it on, chochem!

yeah.,,,well uh....

Posted by bushlovertwo


First, your inappropriate use of the ellipse is annoying. Second, stop defending another righty's kneejerk reactions. It makes you look like an apologist. Then again, it's all you spend time doing... (notice, three periods...)

BLT regurgitates talking points rather than addressing what O'Donnell actually said because that would involve thought and logic.

Posted by RastaCyborg at

nice little 'tag'line but, of course, it doesnt mean anything other than you have no answer for even "talking points".....

can you and shitforbrains come up with answers to debate or is this bashing all you've got???

Rasty gets excited, "Wow, since that would be against the law it's shocking that we've never heard about it."

You weren't here last week when the subject was under discussion, then. So sorry, but you'll remain ignorant, even if it was explained to you.

"You're right though; just last week I was in Hollywood and I saw Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson and Ahhhnold living together in a cardboard box eating cat food to survive."

Your sarcasm is pointless. The comparison was to show that private meetings of any group is a right ... not a chance for some knee-jerk Leftist and, or Democratic to use his "friend" as an example of a crying, ignorant and intolerant jerkoff who MUST be included in EVERYTHING, or tears will happen ... or she will turn blue ... or run away ... or some other idiocy ...

never mind responding....I KNOW The answer.......

O'Donnell is better than average at ferreting out bullshit.

Mormon beliefs have changed and yet they haven't. They desperately want to make peace with this country and be accepted as equals. They practice and teach personal responsibility, a cornerstone of sound Conservatism.

As Edison explained, "Religion is Bunk". But, as our Constitution guarantees, they are free to expouse bunk.

When religious fraud includes money and tax evasion we should be more concerned. Mormons, like all televangelists, do and we really can't afford to subsidize their bullshit.

Are you wearing a helmet by any chance?

Posted by RastaCyborg at 2007


no but I am tinking about wearing a cup today.

Of course you and your ilk hate people with principle sand moral correctness!

Posted by tadowe at 2007-12-10 09:35 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Careful Tadowe. I work and live amongst the momos right here in Zion.

The most decetful and crooked business dealings I have EVER encountered are with mormons. Not just run of the mill mo mo's but prominent businessmen in the community.

They might not drink coffee but they'll ram a shitty business deal right up your ass if you not careful.

ddenton......when did you become an officer in the english gestapo run by comrade hans.......ha ha

my senior english teacher lived by herslef and died that way....be carefull or you might end up in a small room grading papers and worrying about little dots on a page.....

its called holistic......and it was brought to us by your neighborhood liberal who didnt want to make people 'feel bad' because they couldnt spell or use correct punctuation........so its not my fault.

Denton dits, "Jesus Tad, did you get raped at summer camp when you were a kid? Where does all this crazy shit come from?"

What in the world are you talking about? Are you always this vague, or are you running away from any attempt to contradict my "shit"?

I suspect the Georgie Porgy explanation for your "style" of intellectualism ... can't get embarrassed for being obscure ...

OH SHIT...I JUST PLAYED THE VICTIM CARD............sorry about that..........that is the domain of hillary and obama....

its called holistic......and it was brought to us by your neighborhood liberal who didnt want to make people 'feel bad' because they couldnt spell or use correct punctuation........so its not my fault.


Huh?

On the first point, I had a HS teacher kill my hopes and dreams by pointing out that I used four periods in an ellipse instead of three. To this day, red felt tip markers give me the willies.

2112 proves his bigotry, "Careful Tadowe. I work and live amongst the momos right here in Zion."

A "liberal" amongst conservatives, huh? Notice any efforts to describe Leftists and, or Democratics as a pack of traitors? Maybe you should be careful?

"The most decetful and crooked business dealings I have EVER encountered are with mormons. Not just run of the mill mo mo's but prominent businessmen in the community."

I wouldn't think twice about them running you out of town on a rail! You mistake me for someone who might have even the least bit of sympathy for a pack of subversive shits trying to lose a war so they can gain political power!!!

I hope your business fails miserably!

How's that?

Tad, why be specific? The abundance of "shit" you provide is what makes it possible. Take your pick:


In Hollywood, they deny jobs to those who aren't Democratics, or otherwise demonstrate their perverse natures ..

Actually, Mormons are on average the smartest, most successful and well disciplined of any other Christian group.

Besides ... you are a Leftist and, or Democratic hatemonger who wants to lose a war because it will gain your party some treasonous power ...

Of course you and your ilk hate people with principle sand moral correctness!

Go for it! Abort yourselves into extinction, ruin your health, play at being petty traitors so you can win for party over subverting a war all the USA is involved in fighting ...

I want you to act out this way. To lash out in fear and anger over those who are better than you. To show yourselves as the hate-filled, anti-patriotic party ever willing to support our enemies if it means a few extra votes for your hideous gang of perverts and hip-hop philosophers ...

Will someone PLEASE give Tad his Paxil?

"Jesus Tad, did you get raped at summer camp when you were a kid?"

"Vendre un canard moiti!"

Long time ago, far away, late at night, mulberry wine and peach brandy, Bible verses role-playing game, near the age of consent, pirate eye patches, the Carpenters playing on the 8-track, already signed up with the Navy recruiter, whattaya expect? Sheesh.

DDenton continues to hide ...

You didn't "discuss" my "shit", D ... why not? Are you actually that much of an intellectual coward?

It must be because you know I don't automatically buy-in to your own "shit", right? You know I won't find something to "agree" with, so you can be my "buddy" here on the site of petty subversive "shits", right?

Run along, son, and wait until you grow a pair ............///,,,

Army recruiter and The Beatles ...

By the way, Demoncrat ilkites, Tad did not get raped at summer camp.

He was initiated at summer camp.

Keep it straight.

Scum.

On the first point, I had a HS teacher kill my hopes and dreams by pointing out that I used four periods in an ellipse instead of three. To this day, red felt tip markers give me the willies.


Posted by ddenton at 2007-12-10 10:


okay I understand........if I think you are here, I will try and avoid.....any ....dots.....

okay now.......I will stop......

OH SHIT...........

Im ellipsing and I cant get up...or stop./

SHIT there it goes again..

is there an ellipse......support group...
maybe they meet at the same time the anti red pen group meets.

yuk yuk.

HERE IS THE REAL QUESTION......now that the pats have DISMANTLED even the steelers.........BEST DEFENSE IN THE NFL........so who will beat them now?

complacentcy(sp).....because it sure wont be the jets.

I watched an interesting movie this weekend called "School Ties" about a jewish guy who gets a scholarship to play football at an all-Christian prep school. One of my favorite quotes from the movie...

"Jack Connors: Okay, I'll admit it, you know. I'm an anti-Semite. I crack Jew jokes, think they're dirty, greedy. And you know what? David Greene's the only one I've ever known up close.
McGoo: What's you're point, Connors?
Jack Connors: He's a good guy."

My guess whould be the same people who hate mormons for being who they are and practicing their beliefs are the same people like Jack Conners and his buddies who hated the jewish boy for who he was.

Let me ask all you mormon-haters - how many of you get riled up when you think of Harry Reid as your majority leader? Why hasn't O'Donnell attacked any liberal mormons yet? Or is it only because Romney is a Republican that gets hers and your panties in a twist??

Tad,

How is showing how far outside the realm of logical discourse you are 'hiding'? You boy, are the intellectual coward you claim I am. Why? Because you never, EVER, carry on a discussion here without lacing it with insults and invectives. Your points are so weak, you HAVE to fill them with your drivel to lend even the least bit of weight to them.

You continue, day after day, spewing hateful bullshit onto these threads, calling anyone who's not a card carrying Republican 'subversive', 'treasonous', and 'perverse'. And for what? What do you get out of vilifying your fellow Americans?

All I feel obligated to do is to repost your bullshit, and others can judge for themselves how nutsy you really are.

Bartimus,


Did that movie have Matt Damon play one of the anti-semites?

Yeah, he was the worst. Good movie, really made me think, ya know?

Bart,

It was a good movie.


I was quite surprised when the Jewish guy's roommate went to bat for him when he was being framed.

I think what really gets me is that the same people on here bashing Mormons are the same people that were on the thread last week bashing the baptists for cancelling the sevices that were going to include muslims and other non-Chistians. Y'all said the baptists weren't being "inclusive and openminded" about people who didn't share their beliefs. Now someone bashes a Mormon (and a different belief system) and y'all applaud him!

It's not the fact that y'all are Mormon haters that gets me, it's the fact that y'all are hypocritical Mormon haters.

Jeff, I agree. I think it shows how powerful stereotypes can be and how easy it is to get sucked into them. It's also a great example how the roommate (Chris O'Donnell I think) changed his paradigm and realized the lies and prejudice he held were unfounded. I think it was actually based on a true story. I suggest everyone watch it if you haven't seen it yet - puts this whole Romney is a Mormon thing in perspective. Again, good movie.

Jeffindenmark,

You win the first place prize. I have been waiting, ever since Mitt's infamous speech, for someone to say that Mormonism was Masonic and Satanic. That's the kind of misinformation that I love so much, it keeps the hate-fires stoked.

It pisses off the Masons and I would be willing to bet it pisses off the Satanists too.

I have been a Mason for over 25 years and it is my belief that it the greatest organization ever constructed on this planet. This country's greatest founding documents were all based on masonic beliefs. As American philosophy declines, so does Masonic philosophies. That is why they both are dying, no one wants to be smart and independent anymore.

Masonry's greatest fault is that it shamelessly goes along and believes that each man is his own master, and doesn't subscribe to any group, religion, political party or other fairy tales.

And they quietly help those that need help. What an awful organization they are, the bastards. The only people that believe they are satanists are the ones that cannot think for themselves.

It is true Mormonism was based loosely on Masonic principles but the Mormons will never acknowledge this.

Step outside your own head and open you mind and read and learn.

Lipzoidial, aren't the Masons the guys that run the Shriner's Hospitals and give free services? I heard this before but am not sure. You evil doers, you! :^)

Those would be Shriners, and as much as I hate their hats, they do alot of good for sick children.

My wife got an operation that saved her leg when she was young because the Shriners footed the bill.

Oops, Bartimus, overlooked part of your last message.

Almost married a Mormon gal in the early '80s. Her and her uber-yummy sister were the best two musicians I've ever known. They'd sit around improvising madrigals like it was the 14th century. There wasn't an instrument that between them they couldn't play. Except the guitar. It baffled them no end. I think it was the frets that scared them.

It lasted right up to the point that her father gave me the "become a Mormon or else" speech. I heard she married an anthropologist.

Thanks DDenton, weren't sure if they were part of the same organization. I have a good friend that had spinal problems as a child. Shriners paid for everything. Good group if you ask me.

Wait until those Christians get a taste of Leftist and, or Democratic re-education camps ...

Posted by tadowe at 2007-12-10 10:03 AM

You mean like Colleges and Universities? Yeah you should try one...

come on, who is really surprised that the leading liberal asswipe in the media is so biased and bigoted toward the religion of a conservative front runner........as we all know ...all that talk about liberals being compassionate and concerned with diversity is just more lies and bullshit.......

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2007-12-10 08:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

Perhaps she's just tired of being attacked all the time herself for being gay and is now swinging at anyone who hides their hatred behind religion. You included.

Never were we a racist religion. Joseph Smith himself gave his own horse to a slave so that the slave could discharge a debt. Just as Christianity couldn't go to the gentiles until after the Peter's vision, the same occurred in modern times. The Gospel wasn't given in its fullness to all of the tribes of Israel, and most of the African Americans are of the tribe of Benjamin. They were still members and were baptized from the 1800's, just not given the priesthood until the time was come. Some of the strongest members were in Africa and they waited patiently and rejoiced when the time came. The Mormon Church was as racist as God was in Biblical times.

These attacks are silly. Romney has a record as a govenor. Look at that. Then determine whether he represents what you want in a president. Intollerant people like this O'Donnell character should be ingnored. Look at the man's record.

Posted by sawdust at 2007-12-10 09:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

Romney has a record as a governor?

There aren't too many people that could tell you what ANY of his accomplishments were while he was gov.

OH, there was that 'mandatory healthcare' that he signed into law.

In fact Romney made it a law that YOU MUST HAVE HEALTH COVERAGE or you will be fined.

Imagine that? Guess how they are levying the fine? TAXES!

YUP, "ROMNEY the Tax man" is taxing anyone who doesn't have health coverage an avg of 250 dollars. Some governor.

I DID NOT make a mistake. I played the vid and this asshole was all but frothing at the mouth about the Mormom religions former tenants of plural marriage and positions on race. Fine...that is his right.
My point is I have NOT seen one of these lefty assholes go that postal over Koran or Mohamed!
His wrath is only for Mormons who have moved on to peace and service in their faith.



BLT...I think that Hans has a thing for you. She seems to stalk you around the DR.Be kind... Throw her a bone now and then.

It is true Mormonism was based loosely on Masonic principles but the Mormons will never acknowledge this.

Posted by Lipzoidial at 2007-12-10 11:36 AM

That's it in a nutshell, isn't it?

Mormons do some great stuff, like how they helped out with Katrina victims. That doesn't make their religion any more valid however. Joseph Smith is a proven con man, The Book of Abraham is a fraud, and because of that so is The Book of Mormon (as it was written with the same seer stone). That is the uncomfortable truth.

At the top of a forty-story construction project in downtown Salt Lake City, a construction worker glances up from his task only to realize that a second man is floating in the air beside the building. Shocked, the worker runs to the edge and demands an explanation. The second man simply grins and tells him, "Well, we've been told that the priesthood can give the power to raise the dead and move mountains, and this morning I realized that if it can do all that, why couldn't it help someone fly? So I took a leap of faith and it worked!" He peers closely at the worker, adding, "Do you have enough faith to try it?"

The worker instantly jumps off the building...and falls to his death on the streets below.

A woman standing nearby witnesses the death and screams. "What's going on?" she demands of her companion.

The companion simply shrugs. "Oh, it's just Superman messing with the Mormons again."

Q: Why do Mormon women stop having babies at thirty-five?

A: Because thirty-six is just too many.

Actual requests received by the Family History Department of the LDS Church. These are extracts from REAL letters:

I would like to find out if I have any living relatives or dead relatives or ancestors in my family.

He and his daughter are listed as not being born.

My Grandfather died at the age of 3.

We are sending you 5 children in a separate envelope.

The wife of #22 could not be found. Somebody suggested that she might have been stillborn - what do you think?

I am mailing you my aunt and uncle and 3 of their children.

Enclosed please find my Grandmother. I have worked on her for 30 years without success.

Now see what you can do. This family had 7 nephews that I am unable to find. If you know who they are, please add them to the list.

We lost our Grandmother, will you please send us a copy?

A 14-year-old boy wrote: "I do not want you to do my research for me. Will you please send me all of the material on the Welch line, in the US, England and Scotland countries? I will do the research."

Will you please send me the name of my first wife? I have forgotten her name.

Why Did the Chicken Cross the Road?

Laman: To usurp the authority of his older brother chickens and to take possession of their coop.

Brigham Young: Because this is the right place in the road.

Thomas: I don't really believe the chicken crossed the road.

Noah: Are you sure there weren't two chickens?

Lilburn W Boggs: I don't care which side of the road the chicken's on, you have permission to kill it.

Elder's Quorum President: It was the 31st and he had to get his Home Teaching done.

Relief Society President: That's where the refreshments were.

The Doctrine and Covenants: "The duty of a chicken is to cross the road when there is no other poultry present."

Mark Hoffman: Would you like to buy the chicken's original diary documenting his crossing of the road?

Lamoni's servants: We don't know why it crossed the road; all we know is it's wings had been cut off.

Martin Harris: I have never denied seeing the chicken cross the road.

Temple Square Guide: The acoustics are so good you can hear the chicken cross the road from any seat in the Tabernacle.

President Merrill J Bateman: I'm not so much concerned that the chicken crossed the road but that its feathers were not knee-length.

Gerald Lund: Not only did this chicken cross the road, but his whole family crossed the road as well. The grand, panoramic story of this chicken's family will be told in my soon-to-be-released 36 volume set "The Cluck and the Glory."

Nephi: It is better for a chicken to cross the road than a nation dwindle in unbelief.

Lorenzo Snow: As the egg is, the chicken once was; as the chicken is, the egg may become.

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Hemingway: To Die. In the rain.

All the major religions of the world were meeting in a large building. All of a sudden a fire broke out, the Jews started jumping up and down and praying, the Catholics started crying and asking what they had done wrong? The Mormons showed up 2 hours late and missed the whole thing.

A Catholic priest went into a barber shop for a haircut. When he was finished, the barber refused to take payment saying, "You are a man of the cloth... this is a free service that I offer to you." The Priest thanked the barber and went on his way. The next morning the barber found seven fishes and seven loaves of bread on his doorstep in gratitude from the priest.

The next week, a Jewish Rabbi went into the same shop for a cut. Again the barber refused payment saying, "You are a man of God... this is a free service that I offer to you." The next morning the barber found a fitting gift from the Rabbi.

The following week, two LDS Missionaries went into the shop for haircuts. Again, the barber refused payment saying, "You work in the service of God... this is a free service that I offer to you." The next morning the barber arrived to find 12 LDS Missionaries on his doorstep.

A kindergarten teacher gave her class a "show and tell" assignment of bringing something to represent their religion. The first boy got in front of the class and said, "My name is Benjamin and I am Jewish and this is the Star of David." The second boy got in front of the class and said, "My name is Thomas and I am Catholic and this is the Crucifix." The third boy got in front of the class and said, " My name is Johnny and I am Mormon and this is a casserole."

and most of the African Americans are of the tribe of Benjamin.

Posted by ewendels at 2007-12-10 01:15 PM

Well genetics does not back up that statement. Is the genetics wrong, or that statement?

Not a good day for the rightwingers around here, is it? First Nanc gets called out by several others for having no clue what she is writing about, then Vernon The Subhuman Calculator gets his ass handed to him by Hans, and he runs away and hides (i.e., Door No. 4, if memory serves).

Now all we need is for our resident brain surgeon Murphy to come gives us all a biology lesson, maybe focusing on all those trees creating all that CO2?

A man dies and goes to heaven. Saint Peter meets him at the gates and takes him on a tour. They enter a long hall with doors lining either side of it.

Saint Peter opens the first door they come to they see the Hindus reading the Rigveda. The next door they open they see the Buddists reading the The Diamond Sutra. In the next room contains people of various Islamic faiths reading the Qur'an, and the next has Catholics reading the Bible.

Then they pass a door that Peter doesn't open. This rouses the man's curiosity and he asks, "Who is in that room, sir?"

"Well," Peter replies, "that is the room with the Mormons. Don't go in there; they think they are the only ones in heaven."

During the Vietnam War, a group of soldiers were ambushed. Fire was exchanged and during it all, a young LDS soldier was hit in the chest. The others had no choice but to retreat, leaving their friend's body in the tall grass.

Later that night, back at the camp, they saw a figure moving towards them. One of the soldiers yelled out, "Who goes there?" Out of the shadows stumbled the LDS soldier. The group stood in disbelief, wanting to know how he survived.

The LDS soldier reached into his jacket and pulled out a pocket version Book of Mormon with a bullet lodged in it. Holding it high in the air he exclaimed, "Nothing, and I mean nothing, gets through Second Nephi!"

Q: What do you get when you cross a Kleptomaniac and a Mormon?

A: A basement full of stolen food.

I say to each his own, but I have a little problem with that whole "Jesus lived in Albany NY" thing

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Hemingway: To Die. In the rain.

Ha! FF fer that, Zat!

Poppa was a depressing read at times but so succint with it.

Why did the punk rawker cross the road?

He was safety pinned to a chicken.

Be Well.

Bishop Murphy walks into a ward in Provo, and says to the first man he meets, "Do you want to go to the Celestial Kingdom?"

The man said, "I do bishop."

The Bishop said, "Then stand over there against the wall." Then the Bishop asked the second man, "Do you want to go to the Celestial Kingdom?"

"Certainly, bishop," was the man's reply.

"Then stand over there against the wall," said the Bishop.

Then Bishop Murphy walked up to O'Toole and said, "Do you want to go to the Celestial Kingdom?"

O'Toole said, "No, I don't sir."

The Bishop said, "I don't believe this. You mean to tell me that when you die you don't want to go to the Celestial Kingdom?"

O'Toole said, "Oh, when I die, yes. I thought you were getting a group together to go right now."

A anxious soon to be Mormon father spoke frantically into the phone, "My wife is pregnant and her contractions are only two minutes apart!"

"Is this her first child?" the doctor asked.

"No, you idiot!" the man shouted. "This is her husband!"

Once two Mormons decided to go deer hunting on opening day, and as luck would have it, one of them bagged a humongus buck with massive antlers. After their initial excitement abated, one asked,

"Well Mike, what do we do now? I know absolutely nothing about dressing a deer."

"Me neither", said Frank, "Let's just drag him back to the truck and we'll take him to someone who can help us."

So they each grabbed a back leg and began dragging, but the huge antlers became entangled in every bush, briar, and vine they encountered. As they were thus struggling with the deer, they happened upon another hunter who noticed their difficulties.

"Hey fellas", he said, "You're doing that all wrong. Pull him by the antlers, that way the antlers won't get tangled and the lay of his hair won't be working against you either."

So they did as the stranger suggested and immediately realized he was right. They thanked him kindly and were soon making very good speed.

Shortly Mike said, "Wow this is a lot easier, we would have never made it the way we were going at it."

"Yeah", said Frank, "But have you noticed we're getting further away from the truck?"

The Mormon Church is so spiritually dead, that one time an old man died of a heart attack in the back of the chapel, and the medics took away three rows of people before they found him.

Once two Utah mountain lions met after not seeing each other for many years, one was fat and the other famished.

The fat one asked, "Hey Pete, you don't look so good, are you getting enough to eat?"

The other replied, "I don't understand it Joe, I catch plenty of Mormons, but I just can't seem to gain any weight."

"Well, let me watch you in action, maybe you're not doing it right."

So they went to Pete's favorite spot where he awaited an approaching Mormon. As he came near, Pete sprang at him from a big boulder with a horrifying roar and quickly devoured him.

Then Joe said to him, "I see your problem, Pete, you're scarring them too much. When you scare the crap out of a Mormon, there's not much left!"

College Fraternities have historically invented some pretty trying methods of initiating new members. One we know of eliminates two out of three initiates by determining which can live with a pig the longest. On one occasion a Jew, a Muslim, and a Mormon were moved in with a particularly obnoxious swine. After less than a day the Jew left. The Muslim suffered the indignation only another day and moved out. The Mormon, the victor of the trial, vowed to establish a new fraternity record for endurance, but after another day the pig left!

righty's kneejerk reactions...DD

No, not knee jerk.. You have the Righty part just fine, though.
I listen to this program almost every Sun. on #12 and PBS when it was on there.

This JERK has never had to wipe the spittle off his chin over the roots of Islam.

Q: Why do you always take two Mormons with you when you go fishing?
A: Because if you only take one, he'll drink all your beer!


Q: What do you call a good looking woman in Salt Lake City?
A: A Tourist!

The Provo Police Department, famous for its superior K-9 unit, was somewhat taken back by this recent incident. Returning home from work, a BYU coed was shocked to find her house ransacked and burglarized. She telephoned the police at once and reported the crime. The police dispatcher broadcasted the call on the channels and a K-9 unit patrolling nearby was the first to respond.

As the K-9 officer approached the house with his dog on a leash, the BYU coed ran out on the porch, shuddered at the sight of the cop and his dog, then sat down on the steps put her face in her hands and moaned, "I come home to find all my possessions stolen. I call the police for help, and what do they do? They send me a BLIND policeman!"

There were three third graders -- a Baptist, a Catholic, and a Mormon -- at the playground trying to decide what game to play. The Baptist said, "I'm tired of basketball, baseball and soccer; lets play a game I heard about from my older brother called 'who has the longest hose'".

So the Baptist boy whips out his and it's about three inches, the Catholic pulls his out and it's about four inches, the Mormon pulls his out and it's about six inches.

The Baptist and Catholic boys say, "Darn, you win again; you always win!"

Then the Mormon went home and told his mom, "Hey Mom, I won another game today, it's called 'who has the longest hose'. Mine was almost twice as long as the other boys, is that because I'm a Mormon, Mom?"

His mom answered, "No, son, it's be cause you are 22."



Q; How many Mormon missionaries does it take to eat a possum?
A: Three. One to eat it and two to watch out for cars.

Q: Why do Mormon women stop having babies at thirty-five?

A: Because thirty-six is just too many.

Posted by Zatoichi at 2007-12-10 01:39 PM



FF ...ZAT.

Could work for Catholics also.

Two Mormon missionaries boarded a flight out of Seattle. One sat in the window seat, the other sat in the middle seat. Just before take-off, Ed Decker got on and took the aisle seat next to the two missionaries.

Ed Decker kicked off his shoes, wiggled his toes and was settling in when the missionary in the window seat said," I think I'll get up and get a Sprite." "No problem," said Ed, "I'll get it for you."

While he was gone, one of the missionaries picked up Ed Decker's shoe and spat in it.

When he returned with the Sprite, the other missionary said, "That looks good, I think I'll have one too." Again, Ed Decker obligingly went to fetch it and while he was gone, the other missionary picked up the other shoe and spat in it.

Mr. Decker returned and they all sat back and enjoyed the flight. As the plane was landing, Mr. Decker slipped his feet into his shoes and knew immediately what had happened.

"How long must this go on?" he asked. "This fighting between our faiths? This hatred? This animosity? This spitting in shoes and pissing in Sprite's?"

There were 11 people hanging onto a rope that came down from a plane. Ten were LDS, and one was a Born Again Christian.

They all decided that one person should get off because if they didn't then the rope would break and everyone would die. No one could decide who should go, so finally the Born Again Christian said, "I'll get off."

After a really touching speech from the Born Again Christian saying she would get off, all of the Mormons started clapping.

Problem solved.

"It is true Mormonism was based loosely on Masonic principles but the Mormons will never acknowledge this."

Lip - I am also a Mason - 32 years now. There is certainly nothing "satanic" about Masonry. However Mormonism is more than loosely based on Masonry. The vows, penalties, clothing, and imagery are virtually identical in many respects.

And Zat - you are on fire today. I'm LMAO. Although I like the alternative punch line on the "show and tell" joke...

"My name is Johnny and I am Mormon and I was going to show you the Golden Plates of Moroni, but I lost them".

A mormon man was wandering around in a field, thinking about how good his wife, a former Baptist, had been to him and how fortunate he was to have her.

He asked God, "Why did you make her so kind-hearted?"

The Lord responded, "So you could love her, my son."

"Why did you make her so good-looking?"

"So you could love her, my son."

"Why did you make her such a good cook?"

"So you could love her, my son."

The man thought about this. Then he said, "I don't mean to seem ungrateful or anything, but... why did you make her so stupid?"

"So she could love you, my son."

Ed Decker was one day walking along a very narrow street when he came face to face with a Mormon Missionary. The street was too narrow for two to pass. The missionary, pulling himself up to his full height, said haughtily

"I never make way for fools!"

Smiling, Ed Decker stepped aside and said,

"I always do."

The CIA had an opening for an assassin. After all of the background checks, interviews, and testing were done there were three finalists, two LDS men and a LDS woman.

For the final test, the CIA agents took one of the men to a large metal door and handed him a gun.

"We must know that you will follow your instructions, no matter what the circumstances. Inside of this room, you will find your wife sitting in a chair, Kill Her!!!"

The man said, "You can't be serious. I could never shoot my wife."

The agent said, "Then you're not the right man for this job."

The second man was given the same instructions. He took the gun and went into the room. All was quiet for about five minutes. Then the man came out with tears in his eyes.

"I tried, but I can't kill my wife."

The agent said, "You don't have what it takes. Take your wife and go home."

Finally, it was the woman's turn. She was given the same instructions, to kill her husband. She took the gun and went into the room.

Shots were heard, one shot after another. They heard screaming, crashing, banging on the walls.

After a few minutes, all was quiet.

The door opened slowly and there stood the woman. She wiped the sweat from her brow and said, "You guys didn't tell me the gun was loaded with blanks.

I had to beat him to death with the chair."

A woman walks into the doctor's office and says, "Doctor, I hurt every place on my body."

The doctor says, "That's impossible!"

She explains, "When I touch my arm, ouch, it hurts. When I touch my leg, ouch, it hurts. When I touch my head, ouch, it hurts. When I touch my chest, ouch, it hurts."

The doctor just shakes his head and asks, "You're a B.Y.U. Coed, aren't you?"

The woman smiles and says, "Why, yes I am. How did you know?"

The doctor replies, "Because your finger is broken."

One day, a teacher, a garbage collector, and a Mormon Bishop all die and go to Heaven.

St. Peter's there, and when they get to the gate, St. Peter informs them that there will be a test to get into Heaven: they each have to answer one question.

To the teacher, he says, "What was the name of the ship that crashed into the Iceberg and sank with all its passengers?"

The teacher thinks for a second, and then replies:" That would have been the Titanic, right?"

St. Peter lets him through the gate.

St. Peter turns to the Garbage man and, knowing that he was not real good on earth, decides to make the question a little harder:

"How many people died on the ship?"

The garbage man guesses: "1228"

"That happens to be right; go ahead."

St. Peter turns to the Bishop: "Name them."

A Mormon and a Gentile are strolling in the desert when they find a lamp. They clean it up and out pops a genie. "I'll give you each two wishes for freeing me" says the genie.

The Mormon thinks (yes they sometimes do that) and then wishes. "I believe in Zion for the Chosen, I'm sick and tired of all these gentiles coming into our state. I wish for a huge wall around Utah - to keep the faithful in and the gentiles out, and my second wish is that I was there."

And then the genie concentrates hard and it comes to pass.

"Well it's going to be tough in there so for my first one I wish all the non-Mormons in Utah were out of the state."

And the genie concentrates and it came to pass, and then he said, "What's you second wish?"

The gentile thinks and he says "Before I ask it can you tell me a little bit about this wall".

"Well" says the genie "it's 500 feet high, a third of a mile thick, nothing can get in and nothing can get out".

"OK" says the Gentile "Fill Utah with water!"

The Church does not lie. It just re-arranges the truth in its favor.

Nice Zat. Us Aggies use the 2:05 posted joke for Austin and the University of Texas. Ah, good times. Especially funny were 1:39, 1:43 (the first 1) and 1:45 (#2), but I think you'd have to be Mormon to get some of those!

And the long standing classic:

Why do you always take two Mormons fishing with you?

Because if you only take one he will drink all your beer.

1:51 pm

Gonna be hard to find any that Zat didn't cover.

But given Bartimus' startling confession, we could start on Aggie jokes!

1:51 pm

Posted by SanAntonioRogue



oooops. Sorry Zat!

Awww crap, SanAntonio! Actually, I've heard most of 'em, so if you have any originals, let me hear them!

"Actually, I've heard most of 'em,"

I know, but some things are just classic, like Casa Blanca, Gone With the Wind, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, etc.

Let me just say this: SMU cheerleaders, Kyle Field, The Corps, and sabres. No joke!

"I know, but some things are just classic..."

True, I've actually been telling them since the 4th grade. I didn't know what an Aggie was back then, so when someone asked me who these people were, I answered, "I don't know, just a bunch of dumb people, I guess." Little did I know...

On a little more serious note, check this out.

My next door neighbor (classic male jack mormon with a fairly active in the church wife) comes over with this huge questionaire sponsored by the lds church.

He says it's for emergency preparedness in case of an earthquake, terrorist attack or some other disaster.

The first page is a 'checklist' They want to what type of tools etc. you have. The list was detailed from handtools, to woodworking equipment, generators,saws, THE WORKS!

The second page asked me to list all of my qualifications i.e. electrical, plumbing, masonry skills. All types of skills even right down to typing/computer skills.

Thirdly, they wanted to know exactly how much food and water storage I had in place for such an event (they are big on this)



Needless to say I politly refused to give him or the mormon church an itimized checklist as to my belongings or my qualifications etc.

When I said that he looked a little taken back so I told him to tell them that I had none of the above but felt like my .45 Ruger would be able to get me out of whatever bind I was in.

He laughed nervously and I have not talked to him since then.

Lipzoidial,
Moromns have masonic symbols on their underwear, and gargoils on their temples.
They practice rituals where the elders talk to the dead.
These are facts.

Lipzoidial,
Moromns have masonic symbols on their underwear, and gargoils on their temples.
They practice rituals where the elders talk to the dead.
These are facts.

BTW, All masons below the 33 degree have no idea what the higher levels practice. So just because you are a mason doesn't mean that you know what your superiors are doing at the higher level.
Tony Blair is a 33, and he admits that he talks to spirits.
I'm not religous. I don't trust anyone that talks to spirits.

I work with several Masons and have done a little research into them.

They cannot openly ask you to be a member, one has to approach them on their own as I understand it. I concidered it but it sounded like quite allot of time, and money, so I decided to to persue it.

As far as being evil its like every other organization and church in the world, there will be good and bad men involved for a multitude of reasons.

I decided quite a while ago not to become a member of any church or secret organization. I would rather go on my own journey spiritually, emotionally and intellectually.

Plus, as the quote goes: (paraphrased) I would not want to be a member of any organization that would have ME as a member. -Samuel Clemens

Are you sure the Masons aren't playing Dungeons and Dragons?

They cannot openly ask you to be a member

That is why they send their missionaries around the world knocking on doors.
I even get them here in Denmark.
After I tell them my back ground. They leave like their shoes are on fire.
Its funny because there is alway a very strongly indoctrinated one, with a weaker one. And the weaker ones will want to hear what I have to say, and the stronger one will tell him it is time to leave.

Jeff,

I was talking about Masons.

I think I need glasses.

Corky,
Have you seen Masons Youtube videos?
Oy Vey!

"I think I need glasses."

Mormons, Masons, what's the diff. Organized secret societies just the same.

220V 221V, whatever it takes.

Jeff

"The Ultimate Jew Video Blog"

lmfao!

Dagnabbit, Spud is actually kinda pissed to have missed last Sundays "MClaughLin GROUP".

Due to being half asleep Spud misread the title of the program and thought he had tuned in to an old episode of Rowan and Martin's Laugh In the first time Spud caught the show years ago.

At some point Spud twigged onto the fact that John McLaughlin was NOT Dick Martin and that Pat Robertson was NOT Dan Rowan. Wot really gave it away was when Spud discovered that Goldie Hawn was actually in fact Eleanor Clift.

But by that point it was too late, Spud was hooked! Spud enjoys the brusque, clipped speech of JM and his booming stentorian tone. "ISSUES" he'd yell waking Spud up even further. Like the way it's edited too. Even the "Bye Bye" at the end and the predictions are cool (Gobble Gobble).

Spud would ordinarily feel like a Shmoe disclosing such potentially embarrassing material but considering how many folk on this thread thought these comments came from ROSIE O'Donnell Spud don't feel too bad sharing!

But eye digress.

Mormom beliefs? Every religion is a cult at one level or another. Most start as Cults of Personality, in fact. Joseph Smith is no exception. Mormonism is more laughable than most splinter sects of Christianity unless you get into their early history which is more shameful. All that sed Spud has sed and continues to maintain that the main problem with Mitt Romney's campaign lies not with his religion but with the man himself (and his lies).

He's a blatently disingenous fraud with a perpetual brain dead smirk that reminds Spud uncomfortably of the Chimp in Charge at the moment. He's oilier than his own hair and apparently incapable of giving a straight answer on any topic.

Fer those reasons Spud thinks people would be fools to vote for him. Particularily in light of the morality free leadership currently in DC that has been guiding the ship of state onto the rocks of greed and avarice for so long.

Time for something resembling real morality and convictions in DC instead of the "talk the talk and then walk backwards" crowd who are currently driving the US into economic and moral bankrupcy.

Be Well.

Spud discovered that Goldie Hawn was actually in fact Eleanor Clift.


Ah just lost mah appetite.

Lawrence O'Donnell launched a blistering attack on Mormon religious beliefs during Sunday's episode of the McLaughlin Report.

now let's watch for part 2 of O'Donnell's attack -- this time on the afro-centric dogma of Obama's Church, the Trinity United Church of Christ which states emphatically on their website, "We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land". Obama's Church also goes on to proclaim, "The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to...a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA".

Can't wait for O'Donnel to bring that up on Sunday.

This gum cracking bull dyke is some kind of authority?

"This gum cracking bull dyke is some kind of authority?"



And they keep rollin on in. Wow!!!!

"This gum cracking bull dyke is some kind of authority?"



And they keep rollin on in. Wow!!!!

Sorry for the Double Post, I don't know what came over me.

"This gum cracking bull dyke is some kind of authority?"

Lawrence O'Donnell is a she (a "bull dyke")? That would probably be news to his wife, Kathryn Harrold.

Good way of making yourself look like an idiot, westerner.

Hans

You tell em' Hans.

Im sure Westerner feels dumb enough without you ganging up and calling names.

Meanie!!

You know, whenever I see people sadly attempting to defend this sham of a religion, all they can offer is strawmen and accusations of the attackers being "bigots".

It's a cult, plain and simple. It doesn't deserve the same respect as Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. Religions like this belong on the same rung as Scientology.

You can rail on and on about "bigotry" and "religious tolerance" all you want but I have yet to see anyone truly defend against any of the accusations levied against mormonism.

"Meanie!!"

Imagine the guilt I feel.

Hans

And another one misreads! Pretty late in thread to...

"This gum cracking bull dyke is some kind of authority?"



And they keep rollin on in. Wow!!!!

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also, I'm rolling at all these idiots who are just reading the title of the story and drawing conclusions.

ROSIE O'DONNELL LESBIAN LIBERAL THERE'S A JOKE HERE SOMEWHERE WHO NEEDS TO ACTUALLY CLICK ON THE LINK

or for that matter read the first fucking sentence of the story.

"And another one misreads!"

This would indeed explain why, on a thread, you think some of the other posters haven't read the damn story, considering what they're saying.

It's because they haven't read the damn story.


LOL

Actually it would have been a more interesting thread if it was Rosie.

MY bad, Coulda sworn it sounded like the rose and, I thought, I was on a roll!

BLT...I think that Hans has a thing for you. She seems to stalk you around the DR.Be kind... Throw her a bone now and then.

Posted by kerrin57


so hans is a broad?

no wonder she was offended when people thought this was about rosie.........so instead of me, do you think that hans has a thing for rosie? maybe thats why she ( or it) is just plain mean at times....like other lesbians........


and I wouldnt throw my dog's bone her way.....

hans a woman..........damn.......I just thought HE acted like a woman..........

so hans is a broad?
A broad?

What? are you 70 years old, or just watch to many Bogie movies?

Beeatch would have been more accurate.

"so hans is a broad?"

Posted by a proven liar who claims he's a retired teacher

No. I'm here in America.

Hans

"What? are you 70 years old, or just watch to many Bogie movies?"

Too many Bogie movies? I don't think so. He's just a liar:

Im not supporting you Hans. I think you are a snobby jerk.

"It's a cult, plain and simple. It doesn't deserve the same respect as Judaism, Christianity, or Islam."

Sure it does.
Exactly the same respect.
None.
.
They're all worthless bullshit for superstitious morons.

All religions are ridiculous.

Some are moe ridiculous than others.

many mormons are great people and I count quite a few as friends. elderly mormons are the salt of the earth to coin a phrase, but...

they do believe that -

Jesus is the spirit brother of lucifer,

God (Elohim) was once a man who worked His way into godhood,

we mortal men can do the same and be gods of our own planets (e.g. kolob) and populate these planets from the fruit of our loins with the assistance of many byu cheerleader type wives.

...among other science fiction ideas.

i kid you not - i have lived in utah for 30 years, married a mormon girl (former), and understand the beer, the powder skiing , the desert, seldom seen smith, bishop love and the doctrine and the covenants.

look into it - read 'under the banner of heaven' by krakaurer. he tells it like it is.

lincolnprh,
Thaks for the post. I forgot all about the Jesus/Lucifur thing until you mentioned it. My dad told me about that years ago. Also they beleive that all good mormon men will have their own planet when they die, and they will be the god of that planet, and all of their wives and children will be their angels. But then you have to ask if the male children will be angels how could they get their own planet?

don't forget that mitt, if he were elected president would be subject to authority of the prophet (gordo hinckley) the council of the 12, the quorum of the 70, etc.

this is a strict authoritarian religion, it is entirely predicated upon the sheep like tendencies of the flock.

in 1977 i lived in utah county as a non mormon (less than 1% demographic). when spencer (he'll always be 'spence' to me) kimball, the prophet at that time finally had a revelation that blacks should be able to hold the priesthood in the lds church, (no not because the feds were leaning on him or because the mission fields of s. america and africa, and the subsequent tithing were coming on line, gentile!), i asked a mormon fella if he would follow the directive about accepting blacks as equals.

his reply was, 'well if they told us that God had told the prophet that the temple was supposed to be painted red, we'd be down there at 5:30 tomorrow morning with brushes and buckets.'

amen mitt.

So much error...so little time.

For starters on Mormonism's non-Christian beliefs...

www.biblebelievers.com

"Im not supporting you Hans."

Well call me "relieved."

"I think you are a snobby jerk."

Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2007-12-10 07:34 PM

Beats the hell out of the alternative.

Hans

Thanks for proving my point.

Brigham Young second President and Prophet:

You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind. . . . Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which was the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another cursed is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the "servants of servants;" and they will be until that curse is removed; and the Abolitionists cannot help it, nor in the least alter that decree (Journal of Discourses, 7:290; emphasis added)

Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be (ibid., 10:110; emphasis added)


Brigham Young stated that his sermons (as cited above) are Scripture:

I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of man, that they may not call Scripture (ibid., 13:95).


John Taylor, third President and Prophet.

after the flood we are told that the curse that had been pronounced upon Cain was continued through Ham's wife, as he had married a wife of that seed. And why did it pass through the flood? Because it was necessary that the devil should have a representation upon the earth as well as God. . . . (ibid., 23:304; emphasis added).


That the "curse lineage" (dark skin) is Satan's representation on earth, was taught clearly by the third President and Prophet of the Mormon Church, John Taylor. Taylor goes on to teach:

When he [Satan] destroyed the inhabitants of the antediluvian worlds, he suffered a descendant of Cain to come through the flood in order that he might be properly represented upon the earth (ibid., 23:336; emphasis added).

Who placed the Negroes originally in darkest Africa? Was it some man or was it God?. . . The Lord segregated the people both as to blood and place of residence. At least in the cases of the Lamanites and the negroes we have the definite word of the Lord Himself that He placed a dark skin upon them as a curse--as a punishment and as a sign to all others. He forbade intermarriage with them under threat of extension of the curse. . . . And He certainly segregated the descendants of Cain when He cursed the Negro as to the Priesthood, and drew an absolute line. Think of the Negro, cursed as to the Priesthood. Are we prejudiced against him? Unjustly, sometimes we are accursed of having such a prejudice. . . .

This Negro, who, in the pre-existence lived the type of life which justified the Lord in sending him to the earth in the lineage of Cain with black skin, and possibly being born in darkest Africa--if that negro is willing when he hears the gospel to accept it, they may have many of the blessings of the gospel. In spite of all he did in the pre-existent life, the Lord is willing if the Negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost. . . .

If I were to marry a Negro woman and have children by her, my children would be cursed as to the Priesthood. Do I want my children cursed as to the Priesthood? If there is one drop of negro blood in my children, as I have read to you, they receive the curse. . . . There are 50 million Negroes in the United States. If they were to achieve complete absorption with the white race, think what that would do. With 50 million Negroes inter-married with us, where would the priesthood be? Who could hold it, in all America? Think what that would do to the work of the Church! . . . Now we are generous with the Negro.


We are willing that the Negro have the highest kind of education. I would be willing to let every Negro drive a Cadillac if they could afford it. I would be willing that that they have all the advantages as they can get out of life in the world. But let them enjoy these among themselves. I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change it?"

Mark E. Peterson, LDS Apostle
1944-1984

BLT "so hans is a broad?"

Beats the heck outa me. Could be either/or ...neither/nor. Just seems to have a thing for you.

Lawrence O'Donnell? Need to do some research, or would it just be a waste of time?

Not really...you're assuming I read all your stuff. Too much snark.

"Don't have to read a single thing I write."



Good...we agree.

"Good...we agree."

"We" do?

Curious how "we" don't have to read a single thing I write yet, somehow, "we" feel compelled to comment on something I wrote.

Curious.

Hans

What else does he need to do in your mind to clarify his position? - posted by bartimus.

you don't understand that we gentiles are inferior to the true believers, the saints. they are free to lie and deceive us in order to attain their own goals.

do we really need another rich kid who feels he has 'free agency' to not tell the truth if it suits him? again, imho, mitt would be subject to the authority of the lds church prophet.

with love,
a ranting raver

la di dah
la di dah.

more 'testicular ramblings' from hans about little to nothing of any importance at all..

ah yes.....its another day in the neighborhood......

and NO JEFF........I 'aint' that old ........I just am about to run out of ways to describe this person who calls themsleves 'hans'.........

"more 'testicular ramblings' from hans about little to nothing of any importance at all.."

Posted by a proven liar who claims he's a retired teacher

And speaking of "little to nothing," where's the proof of this:

last comment here as that last one took 6 mins to complete on this antique......and I say that only because there are kooks lurking about this site who read into people not staying in one place all day.....

mitt would be subject to the authority of the lds church prophet.

with love,
a ranting raver

Posted by lincolnprh at 2007-12-11 08:49 AM

one reason for the speech was simple........the SAME THING WAS SAID ABOUT jfk......I dont know how old you are, but I was old enough to hear people talk about how if jfk were president, the pope would be telling him what to do.....and that didnt happen and even come close to happen........I believe its the same here as well..........

who is as vile and nasty as

Well, BL2.........

BLT,

Your attacks on Rosie are vile. Why should you care how she gets her rocks off? Worse, you are unable to critically examine our behavior and have created one standard for "Us" and another for "Them". To subscribe to Bush Theology, you have to believe that. There is no excuse for your stupidity, so quit trying to make them.

I watched McLaughlin last night. I understand O'Donnell's outrage. The stupidity of Mormonism is obvious to any rational person. A Con-Artist and Serial Rapist started one of this countries largest Corporations, disguised as religion, which suckles on our economy tax free. Today's Mormon bears no resemblance to Smith.

People who acknowledge that their beliefs are outside reason and still cling to their faith are easier to get along with than sanctimonious pricks who call themselves "Saints", but ain't.

BLT...cams hitched a little too tight this am ?

"if jfk were president, the pope would be telling him what to do"


I can remember my Gram saying that...she was highly involved in our little Methodist Church.

Really, Hans, you just mock the idea that taxes are mainly the responsibility of Democratics and that Democratics tax before they do anything else!

It is just AMAZING! Here the Leftist and, or Democratics have been whining about lowering taxes, since Bush did so! Yet, here you are trying to pretend that taxes won't rise if Democratics gain the White House?

Are you daft?

"but I was old enough to hear people talk about how if jfk were president, the pope would be telling him what to do.....and that didnt happen and even come close to happen"

How do you know that?

Yet, here you are trying to pretend that taxes won't rise if Democratics gain the White House?


LOL

It is just AMAZING!

Tad can't read. Or is it just a carry over from the constant blind rage.

"Tad can't read. Or is it just a carry over from the constant blind rage."

Zap, perhaps it is a combination of both.

Hans

"but I was old enough to hear people talk about how if jfk were president, the pope would be telling him what to do.....and that didnt happen and even come close to happen"

How do you know that?

POSTED BY SANANTONIOROGUE


Sounds like a Great thread idea for BB:

The Pope manipulated the Cuban Missile Crisis!

How I brought the world back from the brink through JFK.
-Pope John XXIII

I'm sure BB can improve on this and provide video.........

My impression of Has is that he is someone with low self esteem, and he has to belittle, and berate other people to feel better about himself.

At least 101 was funny.

Hans.....
I think I need glasses. I read that twice and still missed it.

Hans.....
I think I need glasses. I read that twice and still missed it.

Also. What's the point of typing your name after your post when we can read it right underneath your post.
JeffnDenmark?

but I was old enough to hear people talk about how if jfk were president, the pope would be telling him what to do.....and that didnt happen and even come close to happen"

How do you know that?

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at

oh please.........I guess he was just too busy DOING marilyn monroe and GIVING US TAX CUTS to pay much attention to the pope......I would imagine that we would have all had to become catholics or something like that.......he also had to make sure that his bootlegging family was okay.......


but the speech he gave HERE IN HOUSTON went a long way towards his successfull run to the white house........will it have the same effect for rommny?????

and we also KNOW that his brother was busy listening in on martin luther king......with wiretaps.........you know those........the left tells us that NO DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT would ever do that.........

The moon is out so the religion haters are attacking "targets of opportunity," or those whom they consider vulnerable scapegoats.

If we analyze theological precepts we end up with difficulty. To many of us, religion provides solace, and the rationality is not at issue. It need not conflict with how people live their lives, but some religions compel people to live lives that make them unfit to govern other people. Islamics set-aside secular interests and intrude their religion as superseding all other considerations.

Rationalize "the Trinity concept" adopted when? But now an integral belief.

Again as St. Bernadette said, "For those who don't believe, there can be no explanation. For those who do believe, there need be no explanation."

Since we are a pluralistic society, my question to the candidate is, how his religion would effect his governance, and his life.

If you live according to Mormon principles, you may need to give up stimulating beverages, alcohol, caffeine and the like, but that doesn't impact me.

They teach people to subject themselves to the civil government, be honest in their dealings, be charitable, be industrious and hard-working, and embrace standards that almost everyone would view positively.

This hate spewing from Larry O'Donnell is mindless venom of the left, which fears Mr. Romney as a candidate. Mr. O'Donnell accuses Mr. Romney of supporting slavery as his church did at one time. Mr. O'Donnell is either a total ignoramus (not unusual for a journalist), or a very disingenuous person. Mr. O'Donnell has fogotten that Christians brought slavery to the New World, and that old line Christian preachers used the Bible to support the continuation of slavery.

What is the real continuing tragedy of Watergate? It is that the media perceives itself as having brought down a President, and has assigned itself the task of being the arbiter of national affairs, and is always preparing to exercise its muscle. The media people are largely inexperienced in any other facet of life, and not particularly bright, with the only aspect of their being that is notable being their enormous unmerited egotism.

Maybe Larry O'Donnell should ease up on charging people with their family's peccadilloes. If we do that, no President is as besmirched as the Kennedy family.

The grandparents were bootleggers. It's as if some candidate today had grandparents running an international drug ring, the modern equivalent of bootlegging.

The Kennedys ran saloons, and were political brokers from way back.

Then there is the father Joe, philanderer extraordinary, married to patient Rose, and banging a slew of others, making Bill Clinton lool like a celibate by comparison. Can anyone say Gloria Swanson.

And old father Joe, aside from being a stock market swindler, was an avid supporter of Adolph Hitler and the Nazi regime. It's as if the candidate not only had drug ring running grandfathers, but as if his father was an advocate for Hussein and the Iranian anti-American.

JFK lived that all down, not only his religion.

Of course, the morals and scruples that described the father were passed down from generation to generation in the star-crossed Kennedy clan. JFK had the personal morals of a snake just as his father, Joe, did.

So now that creep, Larry O'Donnell, tries to smear Mr. Romney because of his religious antecedents, who it appears have lived decent hard-working, law-abiding lives. And oh, oh, it seems that there are no sex scandals related to Mr. Romney. He seems to have been a faithful married and family man. That would depart from the Democrat tradition for Presidents. JFK, Clinton. Gosh, we can't have a man in the White House, who isn't distracted looking for nookie.

See, that proves the accusation. Mr. Romney may be a faithful husband and good family man because his religion requires it, while JFK and Clinton just waved their religious affiliation around without paying their putative beliefs any mind as it affected their conduct. They seem socipathic, while Mr. Romney seems constrained by morality. Strike one on Mr. Romney. Decent fellow. The drama of the Kennedy and Clinton administrations would be missing.

We need scum or stupid folk. Oops. Mr. Romney is highly intelligent, competent, and decent. Those characteristics in themselves should be disqualifying from the standpoint of the Democrats, who revel in misconduct and scandalous behavior.