Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Thursday, December 06, 2007

Bernie Ward, a popular liberal San Francisco radio talk show host and former Catholic priest, has been indicted on federal child pornography charges, authorities said today. His lawyer claimed the charges relate to a few downloads that occurred more than four years ago as part of research for a book.

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Wow. a liberal talk show host being charged with child porn. Can't wait to see all the Lefties here run to his defense.

It was Bush's doin'....

By all means Bowa hold your breath...

Perhaps we should be waiting for the all the religous righties to come to his defense instead...

Granted they don't tend to be catholic...

Bowa,

Read the story schmuck. It's not so clear cut. But if he really is guilty of A CRIME then he should go to jail with all the rest of the Republican sexual deviants.

Can't wait to see all the Lefties here run to his defense.

BOWA

For someone who backs someone who cheated on and then left his first wife for his second wife/second cousin, who he then cheated on and left for his third wife, you sure like to slam anyone on the left any chance you get.


For someone who backs someone who cheated on and then left his first wife for his second wife/second cousin, who he then cheated on and left for his third wife, you sure like to slam anyone on the left any chance you get.

POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY


Sure he backs Rudy but Rudy's backs Qatar who backs Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who backed 911.

Which brings us back to Rudy, you do remember Rudy & 911.


you sure like to slam anyone on the left any chance you get.

AU, I haven't slammed anyone here -- in fact I made no comment about Bernie Ward's guilt or innocence at all.

I merely said, "Wow. a liberal talk show host being charged with child porn. Can't wait to see all the Lefties here run to his defense."

And true to form, Sawdust blamed it on Bush, Knighthawk suggested I hold my breath for the religious right come to his defense, Furio called me a "schmuck" and used the opportunity to get the phrase "republican sexual deviants" into his post, and you think I am slamming "anonyone on the left" because I was interested in seeing the Lefties on retort come to the defense of a liberal charged indicted on federal pornography charges.

All in all I'd say, I sure got my moneys worth in 4 posts.

LOL

Bowa,

No one is "running" to his defense. We just think you are a tool with very little reasoning capability.

And you are a schmuck long with being a tool. Very gifted.

Which brings us back to Rudy, you do remember Rudy & 911.

Oh and let's not forget the good old Rudy deflection by zap.

This thread is about a liberal talk show host indicted on federal pornography charges and Zap
s response is "Which brings us back to Rudy, you do remember Rudy & 911."

LOL

Gotta love it.

It's enough to make Harry Reid so frustrated he wants to start doing cartwheels down the senate aisle.

Doh!!!!

"Sen. Reid proposes doing cartwheels down center aisle of Senate chamber"
drudgereport.com

LOL.

The Democrats are unhinged.

All in all I'd say, I sure got my moneys worth in 4 posts.

LOL


Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-06 07:38 PM | Reply |

Didn't want to disapoint Bowa, in fact I tried to beat you to it.


The Democrats are unhinged.
POSTED BY BOWA



Yea that's it a big defense of Bernie.

So who is it today Rudy of Mike?


And for the record I only suggested you hold your breath. Not that you at some point should discontinue holding your breath just on the count of any external factor.

And for the record I only suggested you hold your breath. Not that you at some point should discontinue holding your breath just on the count of any external factor.

LOL

Duly noted.

We'll find out in court if he is guilty or not, but on the face of it it is a seemingly frivolous prosecution.

Prosecuting this fairly famous guy will make some careers, but that's sometimes how prosecutors get ahead in politics.


Wow. a liberal talk show host being charged with child porn. Can't wait to see all the Lefties here run to his defense.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-06 07:17 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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THat's sad Bowa. At a time when half of the GOP is either doin time or under inditment you feel the need to pounce on some "well Known" liberal radio host. If he's guilty he needs to go to prison with the rest of the toe tappin sickos.

At a time when half of the GOP is either doin time or under inditment

Link please to back up this claim.

you feel the need to pounce on some "well Known" liberal radio host.

And how exactly have I pounced on Bernie ward? Exactly what did I say about Bernie Ward that leads you to believe I pounced on him. My comments here have only been directed at other bloggers. I've said nothing about Bernie Ward at all.

If he's guilty he needs to go to prison with the rest of the toe tappin sickos.

That's true. But I believe a person is innocent until proven guilty and think that Bernie Ward should be given every presumption of innocence.

Defense/Deflection:Z(insert Rush Limbaugh or Anne Coulter and you will get the picture)

1.Read the story schmuck. It's not so clear cut.

2.For someone who backs someone who cheated on and then left his first wife for his second wife/second cousin, who he then cheated on and left for his third wife, you sure like to slam anyone on the left any chance you get.

3. For someone who backs someone who cheated on and then left his first wife for his second wife/second cousin, who he then cheated on and left for his third wife, you sure like to slam anyone on the left any chance you get.

4.Which brings us back to Rudy, you do remember Rudy & 911.


5.Yea that's it a big defense of Bernie.So who is it today Rudy of Mike?

6.We'll find out in court if he is guilty or not, but on the face of it it is a seemingly frivolous prosecution.

7.THat's sad Bowa. At a time when half of the GOP is either doin time or under inditment you feel the need to pounce on some "well Known" liberal radio host




Not bad Bowa, Not bad. 7 counted early in the game.

Maybe Drudge Redundant can give us the archival record ad naseum on the way the other side of the aisle is treated.

THat's sad Bowa. At a time when half of the GOP is either doin time or under inditment you feel the need to pounce on some "well Known" liberal radio host. If he's guilty he needs to go to prison with the rest of the toe tappin sickos.


Posted by lfthndthrds at 2007-12-06 08:05 PM

This should bring out a certain DR poster that can rail upon lfthndthrds with LONG posts that call him a liar, etc, etc, from here to eternity.....all over this "At a time when half of the GOP is either doin time or under inditment (sic)....."

You missed one, I suggested he stop breathing.. thats gotta count.

"And true to form, Sawdust blamed it on Bush, Knighthawk suggested I hold my breath for the religious right come to his defense, Furio called me a "schmuck" and used the opportunity to get the phrase "republican sexual deviants" into his post, and you think I am slamming "anonyone on the left" because I was interested in seeing the Lefties on retort come to the defense of a liberal charged indicted on federal pornography charges.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-06 07:38 PM"

Sawdust? A liberal? How fucking stupid are you, Bowa?

Knighthawk told you to hold your breath, and I assume you are still holding it because no "liberal" has come to the defense of this guy. So that's strike two.

And Furio made the observation that there are Republican sexual deviants around. You aren't stupid enough to deny that, are you? And it's not a defense of this guy either, is it?

You are a tool, Bowa. A dull, ineffectual tool, but a tool nonetheless.

"Maybe Drudge Redundant can give us the archival record ad naseum on the way the other side of the aisle is treated.

Posted by HRC_NOT at 2007-12-06 08:21 PM"

Another "brand new" poster with an extraordinary amount of knowledge about this site. How do you do it, HRC? What was your previous handle, punk?

from a conservative pov - this is an extremely unfair practice if indeed his story washes.

i can tell you that there have been more than a couple of times when our children have accidentally stumbled into a disgusting site and they'd call me to tell me - it can be accidental.

if he's just another slimeball, then he deserves what he has coming, but why has he been singled out?

how many of us could be singled out for any number of things we do and say on the net?

too many questions to make a complete assessment.

i do NOT condone child porn OF ANY KIND!

"an extraordinary amount of knowledge about this site"



Umm, pardon me sir but everything I allude to is in the entries above. Pay attention douche bag.

"More than three years ago, Bernie was doing research for a book he was doing on hypocrisy in America," Weinberg said.

And what, he wanted to offer himself up as an example?
So to write a book on hypocrisy you have to be a hypocrite? Let's hope he doesn't write a book on murder.

This excuse doesn't hold a lot of water.

Look at all the weenies holler about a slight of hand.
Their collective consciences all in an uproar.
LOL

Did he alert the authorities when he found these sites?
I am sure they would have liked to know.
Instead he enabled them by ignoring their crime.



i do NOT condone child porn OF ANY KIND!

Posted by nanc

You can flip the switch on your computer and it will greatly reduce their *accidential* mistakes,nanc.
Its called good parenting.
Not to pick on you...


rwd


The Democrats are unhinged.


Posted by Bowa


what a doofus.

That is really quite a spin job on thoe posts you are commenting on, even for you. Do you READ what you write? Better yet, do you even read what you READ?

After reading YOUR posts, how many people do you suppose take you for anything other than a rudy tool?

Hats off to rcade for even mentioning this.

Let's face it, there are perverts in every occupation and the presence of a (D) or an (R) next to their name is of little relevance.

Wow. a liberal talk show host being charged with child porn. Can't wait to see all the Lefties here run to his defense.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-06 07:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry, no defending someone with child porn on their computers. No excuse for that.

UNLIKE the rights defense of Mark Foley, one of their own, who was actually fucking underage boys.

'UNLIKE the rights defense of Mark Foley, one of their own, who was actually fucking underage boys.'

Foley sent text messages, now Democrat Gerry Studds had sex with a boy and the Democrats re-elected him to the House six more times after his 1983 censure.

Yuck.

And don't forget this jewel:

"Senate Aide In Kiddie Sex Bust
FBI: Staffer for Sen. Maria Cantwell (Democrat) sought tryst with boy

McHaney were conversing online Friday afternoon when the CW asked whether
McHaney(D) was interested in engaging in anal sex with a 13-year-old boy. 'I'll be there,' McHaney(D) allegedly replied. He later asked for a photo of the child with whom he and the CW would have sex and whether the boy had 'any pubes.' When told no, McHaney(D) allegedly replied, 'That's hot.'"

Yuck

Former Catholic priest.... coincidence? I think not.

Bernie Ward is married and has four children. He is antagonistic to the Catholic church and Catholicism in general even though he was once a Catholic Priest. I don't know if he was defrocked, laicized, or "resigned."

His benighted views opposed intrusion into a mosque, but supported the disruption of services at a Catholic Church.

The only consistency is his hatred for Catholicism, (and also Protestantism and Judaism). But San Francisco, a gay place is his home.

Some lefty indicated that those on the right would defend Mr. Ward. What glitch in your mental function enabled you to reach that conclusion?

Well, the minds of lefties are difficult to understand at times, since the only consistency is hatred of the West, tradition, religion, and America of course.

Well lefties, Mr. Ward is yours, one of you. You can have him, we don't want him, he's too disgusting for us. Feel free to defend him.

Does Bernie say, "Hey, I'm a good man. I toed the lefty line. I was in the vanguard. One little error and all your good work for the left, defaming America and all that is for naught? where is lefty courage. After all support of deviance in sexual matters is your forte. Why not plow new ground. You've tried to normalize homosexuality. There are new frontiers. Pedophilia awaits leftist beatification at least, as a first step. How can people who support abortion and/or infanticide flinch at giving their support to anything?

Bush is out to get him?"

After all is said and done, I'm enough of a civil libertarian to be opposed to criminal prosecution or civil sanctions of anyone for having books, pictures, or any such materials. I think that such prosecutions are ill-founded, and that these witch-hunts should cease, no matter how distasteful the material may be to some of us.

Actually, what did Bernie the leftist do at worst? He looked at some pictures. They may have evoked sexual feelings in him. So what? We are infantilizing America. For the children, of course.

Let's not jump to conclusions. Maybe some intimidating black guy forced him to download that kiddie porn.

Maybe he and Pete Townshend can get together and swap their research.

Is everyone finished with the name-calling? No, of course not. [sigh] Almost makes me reluctant to join in the commentary. But here goes...

1. Ward and his lawyer will have a VERY easy time claiming "political motivation" for these charges. Dubya's stacking of federal prosecutors assures this. Just "loyal Bushies" going after a prominent opponent, eh?

2. Nearly everybody IN THE WORLD with a net-linked computer, probably has some kid-porn (KP) images on their hard drives. Spam, popups, malign websites, make this inevitable. Y'all can be prosecuted too.

3. But Ward admits accessing a few KP images, for research, in 2004. When the Feds grabbed his computer in 2005, no KP images were found. So it's not like he was amassing a large, lurid collection.

4. Is prosecuting Ward for a FEW images that were briefly on his computer 3 (THREE!!) years ago, then deleted, going to have ANY impact on the porn trade (kiddy or otherwise) or on exploited-abused-raped kids (or adults)? Yeah, sure...

5. There's a clear message here: If you are a vocal opponent of the Bush Gang, and you have a bully pulpit (a broadcast presence, etc), then Loyal Bushies will do ANYTHING to try to destroy you. Don't pee on a tree, you'll be busted for indecent exposure and labeled a SEX OFFENDER for the rest of your life. Beware.

Child Pornagraphers Concerned: "Will They Think We're ALL Liberal Talk Show Hosts?

Child pornagraphers, who suffer a bad image everywhere, especially in red states, today issued a statement regarding the arrest of liberal talk show host Bernie Ward. "We want people to know that just because we dig child porn, that it in no way makes us want to host a progressive radio show."

Many in the industry feel that being linked to this type of situation bodes badly for child pornographers. Said one spokes man with the National Association of Child Pornagraphers, "Sure, they can hide behind the First Amendment, but if people start to think that you're something OTHER than a child pornographer, then it could hurt your career in the long run."

Most child pornographers have no affiliation with liberal radio at all. They're concerned that they might finally face a stereotype that can bring them all down.

Said one source who insisted on secrecy, "Sure, many of these liberal talk show hosts stay in the shadows. They lurk in dark places where nobody will hear them - like Air America. But eventually, they do something stupid and get caught."

Bernie insists that he was looking at child porn while doing research for a book. If that excuse doesn't work, then he'll insist that it's not his and that he was only holding it for a friend.

http://www.imao.us/archives/
009271.html

Bowa,


As you can see the apologists, liars and neer do wells have added to the defense/deflection totals since my last missive.

One of them even makes stuff up to try and change the thread. Imagine that, a Dan Rather follower, here on this site.

Who woulda thunk it?

Bernie Ward, a popular liberal San Francisco radio talk show host and former Catholic priest...

What is it with these Catholic priests (and former priests) they can't seem to keep their hands of little kids?

Former Catholic Priest and pedophile-I'm surprised Rudi G doesn't have him on staff-oh yeah he's already got a CURRENT catholic priest-pedophile on staff.

Sorry Bowa, lefties won't defend him righties might employ him though.

"Said one source who insisted on secrecy, "Sure, many of these liberal talk show hosts stay in the shadows. They lurk in dark places where nobody will hear them - like Air America. But eventually, they do something stupid and get caught."

Only someone who is basicly dishonest would post something like that. Only someone basicly stupid would think anyone would read it and believe it.

Why does one have to download these images to research a book or anything for that matter? What insight is gained from actually seeing a child engaged in sexual acts?

No, it had nothing to do with research... same with that Pete Townshend douchebag... he wanted to get his rocks off to kiddie porn.

Reason #42,354 why lawyers should be shot...

As a "liberal talk show host," Mr. Ward may be able to raise an "endangered species" defense.

Suddenly everyone on the left thinks we should wait until the courts decide before rushing to judgement.

Rob, sure, cheap talk bout lawyers. I bet you think your lawyer is great though.
The Shakespear reference suggests that "the first thing we do is kill the lawyers" is the bad guy trying to....aw forget it.
Too much trouble. Might as well try to teach a pig to sing.

Young children of Mr. Wards liberal San Fran listeners say......"My Mommy and Daddy (or Mommy and Mommy or Daddy and Daddy as applicable) love Mr. Ward and MR. WARD loves ME too."

Maybe he and Pete Townshend can get together and swap their research.

Posted by mikehunt at 2007-12-07 02:47 AM | Reply

Good point.

I can't believe this guy went for the "research" defense. Why don't rapists, murderers and thieves try that as well?

If he is guilty send him up the river.

See rebupes, it's not that hard.

Read the story schmuck. It's not so clear cut. But if he really is guilty of A CRIME then he should go to jail with all the rest of the Republican sexual deviants.

Posted by furio

I guess he's a liberal rep from the land of steers and queers, SF. I'm sure they don't have any dem deviants to keep him company. I guess I wasn't aware that a lot of reps have been jailed for child porn.

Funny, not one leftie defending him, but plenty of righties trying to goad them into doing so.

I seem to remember these same righties on the Craig, Foley and Haggard threads defending the fuck out of those shitholes.

If Bernie is guilty of "child porn" he should pay the piper, if it was indeed just research for a book, that will come out.

I know you wingnuts are moistening your panties over this, but try and get a grip.

"Umm, pardon me sir but everything I allude to is in the entries above. Pay attention douche bag.

Posted by HRC_NOT at 2007-12-06 08:37 PM"

Umm, pardon me, but you are full of shit and you know it. What was your previous handle, you kid diddler?

I guess he's a liberal rep from the land of steers and queers, SF.
Posted by Sniper at 2007-12-07 12:24 PM


2 things buttwad:

The land of steers and queers is Texas

Most pedophiles are heterosexual.

Do you just type any old bullshit that pops into that vacuum you call a head?

I'm enough of a civil libertarian to be opposed to criminal prosecution or civil sanctions of anyone for having books, pictures, or any such materials. I think that such prosecutions are ill-founded,
Johnson,
I think the argument from the enforcement standpoint is that not only do you deal very harshly with the suplliers of kiddie porn, but if you take away the demand for these photos by dealing harshly with those who would buy/trade/look at them, then the supply will dry up -- hence less children will be abused.

And I would think that's probably been a somewhat effective deterrent -- its certainly better then doing nothing to the pedophiles buying this stuff.

This thread could really use Chairborne and his wry observations.

UNLIKE the rights defense of Mark Foley, one of their own, who was actually fucking underage boys.

Coomonsense, I'm suprised none of the usual Lefties here jumped to Mr. Foley's defense and correct the record since many of them are so willing to give Bernie Ward every possible benefit of the doubt. Which is what they should do. Bernie Ward deserves the presmption of innocence -- a person is innocent until proven guilty in the country. And I certainly acknowledge that -- but it seems many Lefties here beleive that the presumption of innocence should only apply to fellow Lefties. That's too bad.

The fact is Mark Foley only sent provacative emails to teenage pages -- which is pretty disgusting and unbecoming of a person in his position -- it is a similar if lessor abuse of power, that say, a boss who would have sex with an intern might engage in.

But while Mark Foley was basically a creepy old man -- he was neither a pedophile or a criminal -- as all the pages were over the legal age of consent (16) in Washington DC when he contacted them.

Bowa: I've heard that Bullshit argument too many times.
So you would have no problem with Foley emailing your 16 yr old son right? After all the age of consent in DC is 16.

Your 16 yr old son or daughter can totally handle an older man in a position of power coming on to them, but he, he's not a pedophile because the age of consent is 16.

Some States still have consent laws that date from 150 yrs ago when women got married at 14.

I've listened to Bernie Ward for years and he's more of a Christian man than most. It's a shame that he got caught up in something he was trying to shed some light on. He has a loyal, long-standing following which some have called his "flock". I'm proud to stand up for him and support him in his time of trouble.

"I guess he's a liberal rep from the land of steers and queers, SF.

Posted by Sniper at 2007-12-07 12:24 PM"

Steers? In San Francisco? Sniper, do you have brain damage? Do you even have a brain to get damaged? How many asinine things are you going to post before you are too embarassed to stay around here?

"I'm suprised none of the usual Lefties here jumped to Mr. Foley's defense and correct the record since many of them are so willing to give Bernie Ward every possible benefit of the doubt.

Bowa"

Examples, please.

Monte: If you;ll scroll up, you'll see I already called Sniper out on his inane post.

I've listened to Bernie Ward for years and he's more of a Christian man than most.

If it were true that beating off to pictures of molested children made you more of a christian then most, I'd be a Buddhist by days end...

Thankfully its not true, and Bernie Ward is just a scumbag peice of shit...

Anyone who gets the righties so worked up is alright in my book.




Now, did I just sound like I was defending Bernie?

Examples, please.

"It was Bush's doin'...." sawdust

"Read the story schmuck. It's not so clear cut. " - furio

"On the face of it it is a seemingly frivolous prosecution." - Corky

"i can tell you that there have been more than a couple of times when our children have accidentally stumbled into a disgusting site and they'd call me to tell me - it can be accidental. if he's just another slimeball, then he deserves what he has coming, but why has he been singled out?" Nanc

Lurch's entire post at 3:35 AM

Wobbie: you might want to at least know something about someone before calling them names.

I'd be willing to bet you've never heard Bernie and you're just talking out your ass.

Like I said, if he was downlaoding childporn to beat off to, throw him in jail, if it was just a couple of pics and was indeed for book research then that's different.

The courts will decide.

"Monte: If you;ll scroll up, you'll see I already called Sniper out on his inane post.

Posted by briwo at 2007-12-07 01:50 PM"

I know, Bri. But Sniper is obviously a pretty dull boy. His elevator doesn't go to the top floor, he is one hamburger short of a happy meal, etc., so I thought he might need extra help. Just looking out for the special needs R's, you know?

"Examples, please.

"It was Bush's doin'...." sawdust

"Read the story schmuck. It's not so clear cut. " - furio

"On the face of it it is a seemingly frivolous prosecution." - Corky

"i can tell you that there have been more than a couple of times when our children have accidentally stumbled into a disgusting site and they'd call me to tell me - it can be accidental. if he's just another slimeball, then he deserves what he has coming, but why has he been singled out?" Nanc

Lurch's entire post at 3:35 AM

Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-07 01:54 PM"

Sister, please! Sawdust? Nanc? Your definition of "Leftie" is lame. But thanks for calling out your fellow Kool-Aid drinkers, douche.

"If it were true that beating off to pictures of molested children made you more of a christian then most, I'd be a Buddhist by days end...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2007-12-07 01:50 PM"

I think it makes you more of a Catholic priest than a Christian in general, wouldn't you agree?

Like I said, if he was downlaoding childporn to beat off to, throw him in jail, if it was just a couple of pics and was indeed for book research then that's different.

no one answered me earlier, maybe you can...

What insight is gained from downloading pictures of children in the act of being molested? What would that add to his book?

Was he unsure that Child Molestation and pornography were bad?

I think it makes you more of a Catholic priest than a Christian in general, wouldn't you agree?

Posted by mOntecOre


Those priests you speak of didn't need pictures...

"What insight is gained from downloading pictures of children in the act of being molested? What would that add to his book?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2007-12-07 01:59 PM"

That is a valid question. There is a difference between clicking on a website thinking you are going to learn something about the subject of child molestation, and downloading images of children. If he did the former, let him make his defense. If he did the latter, I don't see how that is "research."

Also Briwo, after the mess Pete Townshend got into for his supposed "research" why would anyone else go down the same road?

Bowa: I've heard that Bullshit argument too many times.
So you would have no problem with Foley emailing your 16 yr old son right? After all the age of consent in DC is 16.


Where did you get the idea that I don't have a problem with what Mark Foley did?
I would want to punch the guy out if he did that to my son.

I guess you missed the part where I called Mark Foley a "Creepy old man" and said what he did "is pretty disgusting and unbecoming of a person in his position -- it is a similar if lessor abuse of power, that say, a boss who would have sex with an intern might engage in."

But unfortunately by law the boys were "not underage", nor did Foley engage in ay criminal activity, nor he is a "pedophile" which is defined as a an adult who has a sexual interest in children below the age of consent, mostly prepubescent children.

Yet Democrats and liberals had no problem mischaracterizing Foley as a pedohile and a predator of "underage" boys -- time and time again.

What insight is gained from downloading pictures of children in the act of being molested? What would that add to his book?

If Bernie Ward was really researching a book that involved him entering the world of child pornography wouldn't it make sense for him or his editor to let the cops know in some way -- and give them a heads up.

I mean, there must be thousands of cops and detectives at any given time trolling the internet in order to catch the purveyors and consumers of kiddie porn -- yet nobody is arresting the "undercovers" doing that for looking at these pictured.

I'm just saying that something doesn't add up -- usually when a legit writer is doing a book that involves a topic which skirts the law or is illegal, that writer is going to try an minimize his risk as much possible and make (or have his editor make) arrangements to get the proper access, or notify the proper authorities of his intentions.

Steers? In San Francisco? Sniper, do you have brain damage? Do you even have a brain to get damaged? How many asinine things are you going to post before you are too embarassed to stay around here?

Posted by mOntecOre

Ya.... I should have known that the fine people of SF don't eat meat, only lettuce so there wouldn't be any livestock anywhere near there. Please forgive me, I won't ever suggest they are carnivores ever again. I guess they are just a bunch of fruit eating fags.

Bowa: SO if the law said the age of consent was 11, you'd be OK with that?

"I guess they are just a bunch of fruit eating fags.

Posted by Sniper at 2007-12-07 02:18 PM"

He says with a lisp, and a wistful look on his face.

Bowa: SO if the law said the age of consent was 11, you'd be OK with that?

Bowa: SO if the law said the age of consent was 11, you'd be OK with that?

If I am not OK with what Foley did with a 17 year old, then why would you think I would be OK with him doing it to an 11 year old? Just because I don't believe he is a pedophiile or was a criminal based on DC law at the time, doesn't mean I don't find what he did disgusting.

My own personal belief is that the age of consent should be 15 when involved sexually with someone up to 5 years older. And 18 when involved sexually with a person more then 5 years older. For example, a 17 year old can be legally involved with an adult up to 22 years of age -- after they turn 18, they can legally be involved with any adult.

It's not perfect, but it would protect those sexually active teens and young adults between 15 and 22 from being prosecuted for Statutory rape, while acknowledging that older adults have no business getting sexually involved with teenagers below 18.

"My own personal belief is that the age of consent should be 15 when involved sexually with someone up to 5 years older.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-07 02:34 PM"

Wow. Fair warning. If your 20 year old son comes anywhere near my fifteen year old daughter, he's forfeited his right to pursuit of happiness. Maybe his right to his raisin sack as well.

Wow. Fair warning. If your 20 year old son comes anywhere near my fifteen year old daughter, he's forfeited his right to pursuit of happiness. Maybe his right to his raisin sack as well.

I don't see much maturity difference between the two -- in fact, as a former 20 year old male myself -- I would have to say your 15 your old daughter is probably more mature.

I agree, but "maturity" isn't everything.

If he's found GUILTY, it's simple:

Ready!

Aim!

FIRE!!!

What's the big deal. NAMBLA is just part of the Democratic Party Coalition.

MFIXX - sorry, all the truly disturbed sexual predators are Republican - or Christian priests and or ministers. Yes there are studies - and the Bohemian Grove.
As for Bernie - sounds a lot like the Pete Townsend deal a few years back - downloading a picture is not equal to doing the deed - but saying you were researching a book is lame - people should know better. Sad if true but I smell Republican shenagins in the "We Don't Want No Stinking Dissent" vein.

Foley sent text messages, now Democrat Gerry Studds had sex with a boy and the Democrats re-elected him to the House six more times after his 1983 censure.

Yuck.

Posted by zulu at 2007-12-06 10:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

NO, Foley didn't just send text messages. Two former aides cam forward and said that they had sex with him.

FUX Noise is only telling you what they want you to know.

Hey FYI - The US Govt Murders and Tortures lots of people including children!!!

So on the other hand if Bernie Ward had joined the CIA or the US Military he could have gone to Iraq or Afghanistan and there tortured,shot or bombed innocent children plus men and women and not only would he have gotten away with it,he would probably have been in line for a few bull shit medals to boot!!!

See the way it goes the US Govt and Congress is really against viewing child porn but killing and mutilating little kids is OK as long as they're Iraqi of Afghani!!!

So where's the book?
How long and how much research does it take?

By the way, we like to refer to San Francisco as the land of fruits and nuts.

I've listened to Bernie Ward on KGO a lot over the years, and I must say, this doesn't surprise me very much. There's always been something about that guy which seemed kinda creepy and well...not right. I'm not just saying that 'cause he's a liberal, as there are other liberals (such as Ray Taliaferro) on KGO who actually annoy me more, but who I wouldn't be saying this about. Bernie Ward has always given me the creeps.

Well, the minds of lefties are difficult to understand at times, since the only consistency is hatred of the West, tradition, religion, and America of course.

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I passed this on to my Dad, he's a lifetime catholic democrat who fought at Iwo Jima.
He asked me if you were retarded. Sorry, he's old and not very politically correct.

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