Weren't Hillary's people also accused of being behind the "madrassa" smear of Obama earlier in the year?

Sounds like Hillary is taking a page from Your playbook Lokisfur,

Larry Mohr

As much as I can't stand Clinton, I have to call bullshit on you Bowa. Did you even bother to read past the first line of the article?

First of all, the email was only sent to other campaign staffers. Emails like this would only work as a campaign tool if it was circulated to people outside the campaign.

Secondly, this isn't the type of thing Hillary would want associated with her campaign at all. Creating this could only hurt her and she knows it.

All in all, I think this was an example of very poor judgment on the staffer's part, but nothing more.

Weren't Hillary's people also accused of being behind the "madrassa" smear of Obama earlier in the year?
Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-06 02:57 AM


No, Bowa, that was you. Just before you hauled out that basketfull of arugula under the supposing that Iowa farmers are rubes. Now, be a good boy and go peddle some more Rudy thongs.

article about debate in paper yesterday......I guess I didnt miss all that much by getting to the golf course early......well there was that birdie putt on 16 that cost me 24 bucks.....but anyway.....
it seems like the others are attacking hillary in a way that will make libs hate her......they kept comparing her to bush....( iran thing about the guard being terrorists and all that)

no wonder she is striking back......thats the kind of charge that will make a working girl think about maybe going home and baking those cookies......

I think she is in REAL trouble in this, what USED TO be, annoiting as the candidate and she knows it.......

I said in a thread the other day this type of stuff would happen (I thought it would be from the GOP though) and I got called a racist, or a race baiter... bunch of other shit...

So to sum up, go fuck yourselves Dethspud and AmericanUnity

Here is the E mail he sent!Who Is Barack Obama?
Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice.
If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all your contacts...this is very scarey to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and share it.
We checked this out on "snopes.com". It is factual.
Check for yourself.
Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein
Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When
Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.? When Obama was! 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that? Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US
from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!! lease forward to everyone you know. Would you want this

That can't be the real email... lol... is it?

So when 101 comes back as other names he is banned for good, but when Ozarkaggie does it as Setpoint he gets to stay?

So when 101 comes back as other names he is banned for good, but when Ozarkaggie does it as Setpoint he gets to stay?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

No shit. And how long has this shit been going on?

"Judy Rose, a Clinton coordinator and Democratic Party official in Jones County, Iowa, forwarded it without comment to eight people on Nov. 21. Rose referred requests for comment to one of the recipients, Grace Zimmerman, who serves with her on the Jones County Democratic Central Committee.

Zimmerman said Wednesday that Rose sent it to the members of the committee to "show people how dirty politics is" and did not agree with the content of the e-mail.

"Oh heavens no," Zimmerman said in a telephone interview. "She just wanted the people who were concerned with the politics of Jones County to be aware of it."

Those Iowa biddies are known for their cruelty and devious dirty tricks, lmfao!!

No shit. And how long has this shit been going on?

Posted by wisgod


Since Ozark was exhiled...

Now You see what kind of "Guy" Mike Siesel REALLY is huh Rob. Sucks doesn't it.

Larry Mohr

I thought all spoof names were outlawed, but a close reading of recent decisions seems to indicate that exile is for those who spoof to avoid their Dump time.

I'm not sure anymore.

Now You see what kind of "Guy" Mike Siesel REALLY is huh Rob. Sucks doesn't it.
Posted by LarryMohr


Not as much as it sucks to be him. He lives a miserable existence.

Oh I T TOTALLY Agree WisGod. It must royally suckbeing Him. And to think I once liked the "GUY" such a shame.

Larry Mohr

UH OO>.........do I smell a conspiracy from the old retort....

OOOOOOOO RCADE>........are you on the hillary team of experts in conspiracy?

LETS HAVE A HEARING and see what kind of tv coverage we can get......I could use the air time.......

or maybe she is targeting this site.....there was a comment the other day from someone about her being a beast......oh wait a min....that WAS ME......

CORKY

People can change their screen name any time they want . . . except when they're in exile.

Too bad you weren't here in 2004-05 when Tadowe had a half dozen names and used them to talk back and forth with himself.

Now THAT was entertainment.

Hey Rob just a technical standpoint since He created the setpoint handle BEFORE His suspension it's Technically not going around an exile unfortunately.

Larry Mohr

Hey Rob just a technical standpoint since He created the setpoint handle BEFORE His suspension it's Technically not going around an exile unfortunately.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr


See that's horsecrap if its okay to do that... cuz if that works, I'll just create 60 logins and stop censoring myself... I know its hard to believe, but yes I do censor myself.

I was here in the Wild West Days.

Back then we all had multiple names and did "real" spoofing.

At first I thought Tad was Mao Tse Dung on drugs.

Same corky.

Tad is just the future version of Mao.

I was here in the Wild West Days.

It was kind of fun when you could just post as Visitor...

Rob- I'm sending rcade an email about "setpoint". This shit has to stop.

As much as I can't stand Clinton, I have to call bullshit on you Bowa. Did you even bother to read past the first line of the article?

Moom, Bullshit how? That I am making this story up? There's no bullshit here -- a clinton campaign worker forwarded a smear on obama -- and that caused a chain of events which led it to be spread to Daily Kos, force the resignation of the campaign worker, and now be plastered on the front page of drudgereport.com

First of all, the email was only sent to other campaign staffers. Emails like this would only work as a campaign tool if it was circulated to people outside the campaign.

Moom, obviously one of the 8 people it was forwarded to was so offended she complained on the Daily Kos and caused this campaigns worker resignation -- and now the story is on drudgereport.com.

So I would say that this smear email worked quite well as a a campaign tool --for obama.

Secondly, this isn't the type of thing Hillary would want associated with her campaign at all. Creating this could only hurt her and she knows it.

That can be said about all "smears" created by campaigns that get identified back to the source.

All in all, I think this was an example of very poor judgment on the staffer's part, but nothing more.

It's poor judgement for sure -- but neither you or I have any insight into the motivation of this staff member, or the forces acting on her which led her to believe that this was a good idea. Even if the staffer did act alone, it tells America that Hillary's campaign is so rattled by Obama that she has lost control of her staff and they are just acting on their own without her knowledge, oversight or direction.

Such cheap shots have hurt Hillary more than Obama.

CORKY

I just checked your seniority and you're right. You were here.

What was your original handle (if you don't mind). I'll probably remember you.

Mine was KHAYA.

Even if the staffer did act alone, it tells America that Hillary's campaign is so rattled by Obama that she has lost control of her staff and they are just acting on their own without her knowledge, oversight or direction.

Because you WANT it to say that. The staffers are people. People show poor judgement. The staffer was fired for their conduct, and you have NO PROOF that Hillary had anything to do with the smear.

Using your logic, I guess we should just throw rudy in jail without a trial cuz he was BFF with kerik. No?

-Moom, obviously one of the 8 people it was forwarded to was so offended she complained on the Daily Kos and caused this campaigns worker resignation

Obviously?

Proof, please.

"Judy Rose, a Clinton coordinator and Democratic Party official in Jones County, Iowa, forwarded it without comment to eight people on Nov. 21. Rose referred requests for comment to one of the recipients, Grace Zimmerman, who serves with her on the Jones County Democratic Central Committee.

Zimmerman said Wednesday that Rose sent it to the members of the committee to "show people how dirty politics is" and did not agree with the content of the e-mail.

"Oh heavens no," Zimmerman said in a telephone interview. "She just wanted the people who were concerned with the politics of Jones County to be aware of it."

Those Iowa biddies are known for their cruelty and devious dirty tricks, lmfao!!

Twinpac- I remember those days, too. Glad they're over.

Even if the staffer did act alone, it tells America that Hillary's campaign is so rattled by Obama that she has lost control of her staff and they are just acting on their own without her knowledge, oversight or direction.

Posted by Bowa


I disagree Bowa. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the type of attacks that are going to be thrown at Obama. Allah help him if he actually gets the nomination...

I was always Corky, and several others back then.

These days I think people use other names when they don't want to be associated with their own remarks.

"Oh heavens no," Zimmerman said in a telephone interview. "She just wanted the people who were concerned with the politics of Jones County to be aware of it."Those Iowa biddies are known for their cruelty and devious dirty tricks, lmfao!!

LOL Don't be fooled by nastiness by old biddies wrapped in the niceties of "Oh Heavens no".

"Oh heavens no," Zimmerman said in a telephone interview about burning the cross on the lawn. "She just wanted to show the people of Jones County how beautiful a cross can be lit on fire in the night."

"Oh heavens no," Zimmerman said in a telephone interview about burning the cross on the lawn. "She just wanted to show the people of Jones County how beautiful a cross can be lit on fire in the night."


I smell another "accurate" Bowa headline coming.

Don't forget the ?, douchebag.

Bowa thinks everyone is like himself.

How mundane.

I disagree Bowa. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the type of attacks that are going to be thrown at Obama. Allah help him if he actually gets the nomination...

Not sure what you disagree with in my comment.

However, I do agree with yours. I think that because the race is wide open in both parties we are going to see more smears this time around then at any other time in my lifetime and maybe our history -- especially since the delivery vehicle -- the internet, the blogs, is so immediate.

Then again, Bowa does come off as an old biddie, so maybe he knows whereof he speaks, eh?

I disagree Bowa. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the type of attacks that are going to be thrown at Obama. Allah help him if he actually gets the nomination...

Like:

"Obama, after graduating form Columbia University, flagrantly took a $13,000 a year job at a community action agency to help a community hard hit by plant closings"

"Obama subversively used his Harvard Law Degree to take a low paying position working to further civil rights (which apply to all citizens)"

"Obama has a reputation as a 'unitor'. His Republican colleagues in the Illinois Legislature spoke highly of him".

Man, you're right!! He IS gonna get smeared.

Bowa will be doing his best to smear Obama with the internet, you can count on that.

Arugula. Kindergarden kondoms. Madrassa school.

Every smear attempt by you has been shattered, and yet you have the gall to accuse some old lady of successfully doing that which you cannot? I think it's just professional jealousy.

Then again, I'd be pretty annoyed if an old lady did by accident what my best efforts could not achieve. And you aren't particularly good at it, bowa... just tenacious.

I smell another "accurate" Bowa headline coming.

I was making a joke about the fact that Corky was giving the campaign staffer who spread the smear a pass because she was an old biddy and used such a friendly phrase like ""Oh Heavens no" to explain her actions. As if that makes her promotion of this smear any less damaging or innoccuous.

She reminds me of those nice little old lady's who poison their husbands food with arsenic and serve it to them with a smile on their face.

Not sure what you disagree with in my comment.
That Hillary's camp is rattled by Obama...

I think that this type of tactic was inevitable against Barak Hussein Obama.

Now I realize everyone freaks out when you use his middle name, but that is kind of my point here...

I was making a joke about the fact that Corky was giving the campaign staffer who spread the smear a pass because she was an old biddy and used such a friendly phrase like ""Oh Heavens no" to explain her actions. As if that makes her promotion of this smear any less damaging or innoccuous.

She reminds me of those nice little old lady's who poison their husbands food with arsenic and serve it to them with a smile on their face.


Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-06 10:48 AM | Reply


Oh Corky has You pegged to a fucking T Lokisfur. You lambasted Obama plenty and then had the utter gall to say a question mark makes all the difference BULLSHIT. I have to 100% agree with Corkys assesment of You.

Larry Mohr

-She reminds me of those nice little old lady's who poison their husbands food with arsenic and serve it to them with a smile on their face.

I think psychological projection is fascinating, don't you?

You know, where it is impossible for Bowa to know anything about this woman, so he projects his own persona on her.

And those were two different biddies, btw.

Larry- "?" post was mine. But corky is still right.

Larry- "?" post was mine. But corky is still right.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2007-12-06 10:53 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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I know.

Larry Mohr

so he projects his own persona on her.


If he did that, she'd be sleeping with grandpa in her scenario.

Sorry...let me take that back.

If he did that, she'd be sleeping with grandpa in her scenario?

Better.

aruuuuuuugula!

Bowa will be doing his best to smear Obama with the internet, you can count on that.

That's not true. I never "smear" anyone. I'm here to post stories that are part of the current events of the day and comment on them. Are you suggesting that certain stories are off limits for threads to be created about them?

Arugula. Kindergarden kondoms. Madrassa school.

LOL

I posted threads about the arugala story because it was in the news and comparisons were being made to Dukakis over it, as for "Kindergarten Kondoms? that was kind of prescient now wasn't it -- since some schools are now proposing to hand out Birth control to 11 and 12 year olds without the parents knowledge or consent. And I don't remember ever posting a thread about the "madrassa" smear. I remember commenting on it when it first came out -- It was unfounded and a cheap, dishonest shot at Obama in order to portray him as a muslim which he is not.

Every smear attempt by you has been shattered, and yet you have the gall to accuse some old lady of successfully doing that which you cannot? I think it's just professional jealousy.

If just posting threads about the attacks, criticisms and "gotchas" on politicians that are in the current news cycle qualifies as "smear attempts" then everyone here is guilty many times over of doing the same thing -- most of the threads seem to be "smearing' someone in that case.

Well, George Walker Bush's middle name isn't exactly a plus, but no one made a big deal out of it:


that was a joke right?

Maybe cuz it also makes people think of Walker Texas Ranger... who kicked ass

that was kind of prescient now wasn't it

So when some guy randomely smeared Craig by calling him a "faggot" without knowing he might BE gay, he is exonerated in 2007 with the toe-tapping stories?

I think not. A smear is a smear. Obama himself never said anything about 5 years olds getting condoms or sex ed you got in high school. YOU MADE THAT UP!

You have purposefully tried to smear Obama and Hillary unsucessfully, not because dislike them, but because they stand in the way of Rudy.

And you want Rudy since you seem to think he has the best chance of winning. It can't be for rudy's good qualities...those have to be dug for.

and yet you have the gall to accuse some old lady of successfully doing that which you cannot? I think it's just professional jealousy.

LOL

That's pretty funny -- first that people think my main motivtion for being here is to smear Obama -- and 2nd because I would dare treat this "old lady" like an adult and hold her accountable and responsible for her actions.

What the hell does her "biddiness" factor have to do with minimizing the impact of this terrible smear which originated from a woman who "served on Clinton's Women's Leadership Council."

Leadership council?

That says it all doesn't it.

Obama himself never said anything about 5 years olds getting condoms or sex ed you got in high school

Problem was he left it open... "Age appropriate" sex education is what I believe what Obama was going for... That's open to interpretation...

There really is no need for any sex education in kindergarten... maybe some things can stay a mystery for a couple more years...

that was a joke right?

Maybe cuz it also makes people think of Walker Texas Ranger... who kicked ass

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Not the fictitious character's middle name. We're talking middle names here....

"Age appropriate" Was a bad term for him to use. It required common sense for the reader to understand, without using political hackery. Hence the failure of some here to understand what he did and did not actually say.

Alex, I get what he was going for, I just disagree with him completely that there should be any sex ed at that age...

If you still believe a fat man with flying reindeer comes down your chimney every Dec 25 to give presents to good girls and boys, then your're too young.

"Willard Mitt Romney"

No wonder he uses HIS middle name. Willard was a killer rat.

Not the fictitious character's middle name. We're talking middle names here....

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


I would be willing to bet that the majority of Americans don't associate the name "Walker" with an enemy of the United States... but I would also bet the same amount when people here Hussein they do.

Rob- So kids shouldn't be taught that certain touches by adults are inappropriate?

Sounds like "sex education".

I think not. A smear is a smear. Obama himself never said anything about 5 years olds getting condoms or sex ed you got in high school. YOU MADE THAT UP!

That bullshit -- Obama supported what he called age appropriate sex education for first graders -- so my witty and obvioulsy memorable headline, "What's Next, Kinderkarten Kondoms?" was an attempt to show how ridiculous the idea of age appropriate sex education for children that young was in the first place.

It wasn't a smear of obama, it was a humorous headline that led a serious topic about parent's rights and what kind of material should nad should not be taught to young children and adolescents.

It is a topic that is in the news often.

And in fact, only a few months after I raised the issue in that thread -- we now have some schools proposing to hand out Birth Control to pre-teens without parental consent.

So you can spin my intent all you want -- I really don't care --but an issue like parental rights in education where there is a great ideological divide between democrats and republicans -- should be talked about, debated and discussed here.

Shame, SHAME on your people Corky!!!!!!!!! Hehe

Shame, SHAME on your people Corky!!!!!!!!! Hehe

Shame, SHAME on your people Corky!!!!!!!!! Hehe

ROB

What were your parents thinking when they named gave you 'THE' for your middle name and 'ASSHOLE' for your last? LOL

Like they ask right after the spank on the butt to get us breathing, 'What would you like your name to be, son?"

Rob- So kids shouldn't be taught that certain touches by adults are inappropriate?

I don't associate that with sex eduacation as much as I associate it with teaching children to be safe and stay away from strangers.

Also now that I'm a parent, I more then ever see that as my job, not the job of some public school teacher (not that she'll be in public schools) in between nap time and cookie time.

an attempt to show how ridiculous the idea of age appropriate sex education for children that young was in the first place.

OK. Don't teach your 5 year olds that adults touching their groin is bad.

It would be sex ed, and that's BAD for 5 year olds.

PS Saddam Hussein is dead last I heard.

What were your parents thinking when they named gave you 'THE'

Its an acronym for The Hottest Embryo...

I looked good in the ultrasounds...

I don't associate that with sex eduacation as much as I associate it with teaching children to be safe and stay away from strangers.


Most bad touches come from people close to a child. Not strangers.

It's sex ed.

It would be sex ed, and that's BAD for 5 year olds.

Posted by Alexandrite


But here's the problem... Why did Obama say it if he meant this? this is taught in schools... everyone is told to look out for strangers or yell for an adult if someone is trying to touch them or take them... I was taught that, I'm sure most people were...

So if its already taught, why did Obama need to say he wanted it? I think maybe you're interpreting what he said to include the Safety courses...

Most bad touches come from people close to a child. Not strangers.

It's sex ed.

Posted by Alexandrite


Its a Safety Course... and its already taught in schools... no need to mention it if this is what he meant... clearly he meant some sort of education as to where babies come from.

And you want Rudy since you seem to think he has the best chance of winning. It can't be for rudy's good qualities...those have to be dug for.

Dug for? Just scratch Rudy's surface and you find a mayor that literally turned around a city that was deemed ungovernable completely around and made it into a mecca for business and tourism again, and a place that people wanted to live and work in again. Scratch the surface and you find a former prosecutor that broke up the mob and put insider traders in jail in a way noone had before.

Neither Hillary or Obama can close to matching Rudy's record of accomplishment.

Neither Hillary or Obama can close to matching Rudy's record of accomplishment.

Posted by Bowa

Neither of them have a record... so its not really a fair comparison to Rudy

Its a Safety Course... and its already taught in schools... no need to mention it if this is what he meant... clearly he meant some sort of education as to where babies come from.

I agree -- The "Don't talk to Strangers" message has been taught for 50 years and is part of a 'safety" message not sexual education.

"Bush In A Skirt" !!!

-Sarge

"Well, George Walker Bush's middle name isn't exactly a plus, but no one made a big deal out of it:

John Walker - CIA employee and Master Spy for the USSR who helped decipher over 200,000 items for the Soviets

Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

What about American Taliban - John WALKER Lindh? Coincidence? I think not.

I agree -- The "Don't talk to Strangers" message has been taught for 50 years and is part of a 'safety" message not sexual education.


Posted by Bowa

And if it already exists then that isn't what Barak was talking about, so the only thing left is an "Age appropriate" discussion of where babies come from, and I'm sorry but that is not the job of a Kindergarten teacher...

Neither of them have a record... so its not really a fair comparison to Rudy

That's true -- they have no accomplishments really to speak of. Obama is a first term senator who misses a lot of important votes so he doesn't have to go on record with a position. And Hillary is a mediocre senator and former first lady who believes that just because she was married to the President, that gives her the experience to be President.

Hmmm....maybe the wives of the NY Yankees should play next year instead of the NY Yankees. let's see how that works out for them.

LOL

clearly he meant some sort of education as to where babies come from.

In your opinion.

And bowa- strangers molest kids less often than family do, moron.

Teaching kids about bad touches could be contrued as sex ed. And it seems that it is by the puritans here.

What about American Taliban - John WALKER Lindh? Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Another good one... clearly when anyone hears the name Walker they think Muslim Extremist...

When they hear the name Hussein they think Midwestern Banker.

Rudy couldn't win anything if had to run in NY. The people there hate his guts for that record of "accomplishments" he has.

If Obama and Hillary want to catch up to rudy, they need to screw mistresses in 9-11 bunkers and have the local police force walk their mistresses dog.

In your opinion

No, the education you are talking about is already being taught... has been since I was little...

So if the education exists why would he call for it? It would be like if he called for "age appropriate" math classes...

He meant sex education in the traditonal sense of the course.

"When they hear the name Hussein they think Midwestern Banker."

How about the late King Hussein of Jordan, a friend and ally of the United States in later years?

BTW I think the whole "rudy thong" thing that a former poster here was selling is perfect.

Rudy is indeed a whore.

How about the late King Hussein of Jordan, a friend and ally of the United States in later years?

Posted by SanAntonioRogue


Still a muslim...

Besides liberals, muslims are the second most dangerous enemy to the United States...

Rudy couldn't win anything if had to run in NY. The people there hate his guts for that record of "accomplishments" he has.

The people don't hate his guts but the Lefty media and liberal elite sure do.

He kicked their butt every which way but sunday.

No, you're right rob. Obama wants a 5 year old to understand the inner working of a uterus.

That's EXACTLY what he said and what he meant! But kidding aside you were right, "age appropriate" was a bad term to use on Obama's part. It requires the voting populace to use common sense and not put words into his mouth, and as you have demonstrated, that was a big error.

The people don't hate his guts but the Lefty media and liberal elite sure do.

I'm not a member of either one. I think he's an unbelievably corrupt asshole.

Actually Good Touch Bad Touch falls upon Sex education and body safety awareness.

Bowa- Rudy "kicked the butt" of the media in NY because if they so much as hinted that they weren't big fans of his, he would lock them out completely.

THat shit works when you're the mayor of one area. Not when you're a political candidate, which is why all these stories are coming out about Rudy now.

All the people he's Fucked over in the last decade are thrilled that they have a national stage in which to air Rudy's dirty laundry. And all they have to do is tell the truth about the little creep.

No, you're right rob. Obama wants a 5 year old to understand the inner working of a uterus

Now whos putting words in someone's mouth?

The education you are talking about ALREADY EXISTS!!! So why would Obama propose that? Like I said, it would be the equivolent of proposing "age appropriate" math. So since the education you are talking about already exists, what is left but some trype of discussion about where babies come from? Where is that lacking in common sense? I'm not saying he wants it to be detailed with pictures and video and such, but clearly he did not mean what you are saying he did.

FF for AU!

Larry- Actually Good Touch Bad Touch falls upon Sex education and body safety awareness.

Anyone not smearing, or apologizing for smearing Obama knows that. ie- not ROBowa_the_arugula_hole

Wow, they put your ultrasound up on the web:

ROB THE AHOLE ultrasound pic

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


Hey fuckhead, some of us are at work... you wanna not post to sites like that, asshole

The education you are talking about ALREADY EXISTS!!! So why would Obama propose that?

Because it doesn't exist everywhere. And not all parents let their children be a part of it.

You're an idiot.

Rudy made Tooty cry

Larry Mohr

Hey fuckhead, some of us are at work...

Goldbricking again, rob? : D

I can't imagine AU's pic is any worse than what's already on your desktop and screensaver.

Hey fuckhead, some of us are at work... you wanna not post to sites like that, asshole

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

If they're looking over your shoulder they certainly haven't seen you 'at work' all day have they? I wouldn't worry. Besides, it's only your ultrasound pic anyway asshole (last name)

Because it doesn't exist everywhere

I have never heard of a kid not being taught, or being held out of a class where they say don't let anyone touch you on your private parts.

That's just silly... Every kid is taught that...

Hillary is going to kill her own campaign which is good for the dems because if she got the nomination she would be a surefire loser to Rudy. Obama has a much better chance than her. Obama would make a better prez anyways. Hillary would be no better than Bush.

ROB THE AHOLE ultrasound pic

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


Hey Rogers you wanna deal with this fucking asshole pointing to porn sites?

Nothing's showing anyway. Who would be offended at your ultrasound pic, ROB? You were a chubby little embryo, I'll say that.

If they're looking over your shoulder they certainly haven't seen you 'at work' all day have they? I wouldn't worry. Besides, it's only your ultrasound pic anyway asshole (last name)

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


Dumb fuck, IT departments can check internet history and people clicking on "Bigfatbooty.com" could get a lot of people in trouble, not just me, but anyone who clicks on it...

I'm in IT, so its not going to affect me, but you could get other posters in trouble... don't fucking do it.

RCADE

While you're at it how about dealing with the 'fuckwads' and 'fucking assholes' (ROB's words not mine) while you're at it?

How is the picture of two buttcheeks PORN? I can't see an asshole, set of balls, or a twat in that pic.

Quit whining, rob. I'm sure if your boss fires you for bad cookies AU's pic will be the most tasteful one.

And it's not like you're working anyway.

I hope both Rudy and Hillary go away. Nothing would please me more.

How is the picture of two buttcheeks PORN?

BigFatBooty.com?

Its not the picture that IT departments can see, its the site title...

And no its not going to happen to me, my company is less then lazy about this kind of shit... but other posters who clicked on it could get in trouble...

Bad Rob Bad Bad Bad.

Larry Mohr

Yeah rob...You really care about other people getting in trouble.

Like you really cared for that guy who killed himself, or the two kids who were shot.

If you're going to whine to rogers because you got punked, at least be honest about your motives.

Caring about strangers is not your strong suit.

Man, that's a fat booty. I think IT nerds would laugh at it. The only people that would get reported would be assholes their looking to reprimand anyway.

I've 'worked' too hard. Time for a 4 hour lunch. That 5 day trip to NYC eating and recording wore me out.

Don't let your head explode ROB. Then they might just look into what you do all day.

Hey, only looking out for your best interests Mr. Ahole.

Yeah rob...You really care about other people getting in trouble.


I don't want to see anyone here fired, or get in trouble at their jobs...

Caring about strangers is not your strong suit.

Posted by Alexandrite


I've been talking to a lot of you for over 2 years now, I would hardly call that "strangers."

If you're going to whine to rogers because you got punked

Alex, you're a fucking idiot, AmericanUnity has posted all sorts of YouTube videos and other pictures about me and my wife before and I haven't said a damn thing because they weren't to sites that could get flagged...

Sorry I think its fucked up that someone linked to a site called "bigfatbooty.com" also with ChubbyLoving in the address...

FF Alex !! LMAO

Let's see....

Hmmm Who mentioned middle names (for the 1000th time about Obama) and started this.

God, it's coming to me.....

Round, Brown, Starfish shaped, World Champion Goldbricker....

Think think think

Round, Brown, Starfish shaped, World Champion Goldbricker....


Rudy? No, it must be rob...no sex was mentioned.

I don't want to see anyone here fired, or get in trouble at their jobs...

ROB

LOG OFF!! Best defense against YOUR getting fired there is.

Hmmm Who mentioned middle names (for the 1000th time about Obama) and started this

How does mentioning a middle name lead to you posting to a porno site?

Dude, you're a fucking asshole for doing that... a lot of companies do track internet sites, and would flag an address like the one you posted... you could get people in trouble for that, and you're a complete dick for doing it, and an even bigger one for not recognizing it.

LOG OFF!! Best defense against YOUR getting fired there is.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


I'm not going to get fired for being here, or on BigFatBooty.com, or any other site... My company doesn't check that stuff... but I've worked for companies that do... a lot of them do it.

"LOG OFF!! Best defense against YOUR getting fired there is."

Or a really radical idea. Working.

I agree with you, Rob. A lot of people are here waiting for work to pick up, and plenty of people could get in trouble for going to such sites, even if it was on accident. I'm also lucky that my current company doesn't check these things.

Or a really radical idea. Working.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue


I've been coming here for two years... I think its cool...

Its an acronym for The Hottest Embryo...
I looked good in the ultrasounds...
Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole


HAHA!! FF for Rob

How about you assholes that get paid to WORK not log into blogs?

Damn near welfare queens, aren't you?

I'm at work, but I currently have no work to do. Sometimes it's busy, sometimes there is nothing to do. That's just the nature of my job, and the jobs of many other people. So I pass time by going on here. Nobody where I work cares.

How about you assholes that get paid to WORK not log into blogs?


Like I said, I've been coming here for 2 years... longer actually... If I wasn't getting my work done for 2 years, don't you think someone would notice...

You're just pissy now cuz you realize how fucked up it was for someone to post to a porno site, and you took his side... probably leading you to the realization that your just a hack who will defend anything someone does who is on your "team." Although now comes the inevitable denial of party affiliation...

AU-

I agree with Plum and Rob. Many companies have software which flags certain sites and sends a message to IT when someone goes to a site on the list.

People can get fired for going on one of those sites, so even though you were trying to be funny, please don't link to sites like that where an unexpecting drudgie can click on it and get a notice from IT (which will go in their file) that they visited an "inappropriate" site.

Although now comes the inevitable denial of party affiliation...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2007-12-06 12:21 PM

I'm not sure which we have more of: 1) obvious righties who deny ever voting for Bush; or 2) obvious lefties who say "what makes you think I'm a Democrat?"

OK I"ll avoid linking like that in the future. No problem.

I recalled the 'Zarqawi meets the first of his 72 virgins' pic someone posted of a 500 chick on top of a skinny guy which didn't raise any shackles. Far grosser. But, I get the point.

:-)

"I'm not sure which we have more of: 1) obvious righties who deny ever voting for Bush; or 2) obvious lefties who say "what makes you think I'm a Democrat?"" - RoC

I've been been accused of both before...

AU-

It's not the pic, IT doesn't see it. It's the place where the pic appears. Most Joke sites aren't on the flag lists, it's the porn sites that are.

Thanks.

Whoever the last 'head of Al Qaeda/Iraq' killed a couple of months ago was. Too many to remember their names.

Anyway, Point taken.

I agree with Plum and Rob. Many companies have software which flags certain sites and sends a message to IT when someone goes to a site on the list.

People can get fired for going on one of those sites, so even though you were trying to be funny, please don't link to sites like that where an unexpecting drudgie can click on it and get a notice from IT (which will go in their file) that they visited an "inappropriate" site.

Posted by Rightocenter at 2007-12-06 12:25 PM | Reply


Price one pays while blogging while one works ehhhhhhhhh.

Larry Mohr

Appreciated, AU. Believe me that I have absolutely no problem with anything remotely pornographic. I'd just rather not take the chance of getting into trouble just for fucking around on this site. If you posted a warning or something on your post I don't think anybody would have a problem.

"Price one pays while blogging while one works ehhhhhhhhh." -Larry

Point taken, but it's either blog or sit on my ass and stare at the wall until the engineers at work get their shit together so I can continue working. At times that takes all day... 8 hours of watching a wall is torture.

PLUM

No problem

:-)

You're alright, AU. Few on this site show such respect.

I said in a thread the other day this type of stuff would happen (I thought it would be from the GOP though) and I got called a racist, or a race baiter... bunch of other shit...

So to sum up, go fuck yourselves Dethspud and AmericanUnity

Actually Turdburgler (tm) You sed that the GOP was gonna run a teevee ad wherein the GOPhers were gonna try to make a connection between Islamic terrorists and Barack Hussein Obama's middle name.

Spud sed that if they tried something that stupid it would backfire and they would have their asses handed to them.

Spud still sez that.

In this case this Hill worker forwarded (w/o comment) an offensive and blatently false chain e-mail that has already been widely discredited and wot was the consequence? She got shit-canned for it.

Spud 1 Rob 0

If she had not sent the smear w/o comment and had actually put the explanation that this was an already discredited tactic that Hill workers should seriously avoid or sommat she would not have lost her job or even deserved to.

As it is her after the fact explanations do not hold water and she deserves her fate.

They say the devil is in the details.

They also say God is there too.

They're both right.

So... to sum up.

Get bent you evil, racist, Sphincter Thief (tm)

Be Well.

PS: All that sed, as much as it kills Spud to do so Rob actually, sorta, kinda had a bit of a point later on in the thread. When Spud links to naked pix or questionable material Spud puts some kind of warning in the post just so that folk playing along from work don't get in trouble over it. The fact that when you hover over the link you can clearly see it goes to a site called BigFatBooty should be enuff of an indicater to the average lefty hereabouts. Spud is more concerned with the more clueless RT's getting in trouble. The Drudge Retort is kinda like one big, crazy, disfunctional family in a weird kinda way and nobody should have to suffer from showing up.

PPS: In case you were only reading every fourth word trying to break the code or sommat that was Spud entering that hotbed of progressive politcal discussion, the Drudge Retort, as ya do.
stage left

Get bent you evil, racist, Sphincter Thief (tm)

You're just pissy cuz I was right... Obama's race and name are going to be a major part of this campaign...

Even though this email is completely wrong, and totally discredited, people are hearing about it again... How many times has it been proven that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11? When polled on the subject people still associate the two, don't they?

The more Barak Hussein Obama is associated with stories like this the more people are going to associate him with Islam... that ain't good if you want to be President of the United States of America.

How many times has it been proven that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11? When polled on the subject people still associate the two, don't they?

Amazing what liars can accomplish by telling the same lie so many times the gullible 44% suck it up. Started out at like 14%.

Amazing what liars can accomplish by telling the same lie so many times the gullible 44% suck it up. Started out at like 14%.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


No, they never actually said the one was responsible for the other... in fact Bush came out and said Hussein wasn't connected with the attacks, but when you keep saying it, eventually people will associate the two anyways...

The same will happen to Barak Hussein Obama... By the time next Novemeber comes around I would bet around 40-50% think he is a muslim.

Even though this email is completely wrong, and totally discredited, people are hearing about it again...

That's politics in 2007. No candidate is immune from mudlinging and smears. If there is even one kernel of truth to latch onto -- then it will be amplified and blown out of proportion. In this case, Obama;s father and stepfather were born Muslim, His grandfather was a devout Muslim, he spent his early years in a predominantely Muslim country, and he has a muslim/arab name (Barack is from the Arabic "baracka" which means blessed).

So because of that, Obama's opponents are going to do everything they can to make people believe that his connection to Islam is much deeper then it actually is.

Politics as usual.

-there is even one kernel of truth to latch onto -- then it will be amplified and blown out of proportion

Bowa being a prime example of exactly this, even on this thread.

Price one pays while blogging while one works ehhhhhhhhh.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2007-12-06 12:34 PM

Absolutely. However, I am the managing partner of my firm's office here in LA, and usually only go on here when I am on one of the many interminable conference calls that plague me on a regular basis.

Thank god for the mute button.

:^)

What a lying sack of shit.

Hans

Did they? were you?

Go fuck yourself?

"Did they? were you?"

Go fuck yourself?"

It is okay to publically threaten to get someone "fired, or get in trouble at their jobs..." so long as you don't actually do it?

What a piece of shit (lying and otherwise).

Hans

The same will happen to Barak Hussein Obama... By the time next Novemeber comes around I would bet around 40-50% think he is a muslim.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Ya, because liars will continue to spread the BS he attended a Madrassa as an 8 year old, which is BS, and somehow infer that his middle name (which his parents picked) was chosen by him.

I doubt it will matter. People are smarter than the 44% who fell for Bush and Co's BS about Saddam and Al Qaeda

It is okay to publically threaten to get someone "fired, or get in trouble at their jobs..." so long as you don't actually do it?


You were going around spreading lies about me, I got pissed and lost my cool... I dind't do anything, nothing ever happened...

Next time don't be such a shit bag...

Thursday, December 06, 2007

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Barack Obama within seven points of Hillary Clinton in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. It's Clinton 33%, Obama 26%, Edwards 15%, and Bill Richardson at 6%. (see recent daily numbers). These figures mark the second time in a week that Obama has pulled to within single digits of Clinton. Clinton leads by fifteen percentage points among white voters but trails by nine among all other voters.

New data released today shows that Clinton has lost her lead over Obama in the South Carolina Primary

I doubt it will matter. People are smarter than the 44% who fell for Bush and Co's BS about Saddam and Al Qaeda


You really believe that?

"You were going around spreading lies about me, I got pissed and lost my cool... I dind't do anything, nothing ever happened..."

Lies? That you were a Jerry Falwell supporter? That was pretty obvious to everyone else on those threads.

"Next time don't be such a shit bag..."

I wasn't the one going around threatening someone's job:

Lies? That you were a Jerry Falwell supporter? That was pretty obvious to everyone else on those threads

See there you go again... I'm not a Falwell supporter, I never had been...

All I said was "Falwell Rocks" for being able to get libs so pissy... but never did I say I support what he did or the things he said...

And your threat (carried out or not) puts you right in there with niceville.

What about your buddy Ozarkaggie fuckwad? The jury is still out on your involvement in that too big guy...

I doubt it will matter. People are smarter than the 44% who fell for Bush and Co's BS about Saddam and Al Qaeda


You really believe that?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Yes. I think racism will have more to do with an Obama defeat if he's the nominee and loses the election.

When 23% still approve of Bush's job perfomance it's possible millions of Americans are absolute buffoons who get their news from the guy on the next bar stool

Apparently, the Falwell supporters stick together.

Hans

Posted by Hans


You know its funny, I admit I lost my cool, said something I shouldn't have, but you keep lying...

"You know its funny, I admit I lost my cool, said something I shouldn't have..."

To which you never apologized.

Hans

"You know its funny, I admit I lost my cool, said something I shouldn't have, but you keep lying..."

But then again, niceville never apologized either.

Hans

To which you never apologized.

Hans

Posted by Hans


Because you're a fucking tool, and I think its likely that you played a part in my info being put out here, or at least knew about it given your close relationship with Mike Siesel/Ozarkaggie.

Did you apologize for going from thread to thread spreading lies about me being a Falwell supporter?

Yes. I think racism will have more to do with an Obama defeat if he's the nominee and loses the election.

Isn't that essentially a racist position to take -- concluding at this early date that it is impossible for Obama to lose on his own merits or the merits of his opponent -- and that if he does lose it must be primarily because of racism?

AU, it's sad that you must see Obama only in terms of his skin color.

I think most americans are a lot better then that.

"You know its funny, I admit I lost my cool, said something I shouldn't have..."

And the amazing thing is, you knew I worked at your alma mater because that was something I shared with you via e-mail. We exchanged e-mails, and even talked about tipping a brew at Bullwinkles if you were ever in town for a football game.

Do you betray others like that?

Hans

you knew I worked at your alma mater because that was something I shared with you via e-mail

Now that's a fucking lie. You've posted that many times here...

Do you betray others like that?

Hans

Posted by Hans


Said the guy who went from thread to thread posting lies about me, and contributor to 49-reasons.com a site run by Mike...

Just to take a page from your playbook...

The Auditor General of FSU (where I work).

Hans

Posted by Hans at 2007-10-15 08:56 PM

"Now that's a fucking lie. You've posted that many times here..."

Sure. Why hide something after it has been revealed?

"contributor to 49-reasons.com a site run by Mike..."

So was Dutch46, Kanrei, Lisa, Walt. And your point?

Hans

Rob and Hans,


I think you two should set up a school-yard type fight in the woods, or something.


Then, after you two have beaten the snot out of eachother, you should both go to Bullwinkle's and tip a few back and regale the highlights of your fight.....

"You got me pretty good with that upper-cut, Hans."

"Yeah, that was a good punch, but my kidney is going to be sore for a week after you slipped that rabbit punch, Rob."

"Just to take a page from your playbook..."

2007-10-15 08:56 PM

"I think you two should set up a school-yard type fight in the woods, or something."

Perhaps our notorious gambler, bushlover2, can place odds on it.

Thanks, JeffJ... the mood definitely needed lifting.

I've said what I wanted to say.

Hans

Sure. Why hide something after it has been revealed?


LOL... put your super sleuth powers to use and see how often your name appears here with FSU attached... You put that info out yourself, years ago...

But I didn't put mine out and yet somehow a person I never spoke with outside of here... someone you are pretty friendly with got it and used it against me...

BOWA

I plan on voting for Obama. That's how much his black half matters to me

Hans,

In an all-out brawl I'll bet on you - for some reason I suspect you are a ringer.


That said, in the aftermath I think Rob kicks your ass in the quantity of beer consumption department at Bullwinkle's.


It's a 'win-win'.


PS - glad to lighten the mood - although it's apparent to me that both of you really 'needed' to air this out and say what you needed to say.

"Just to take a page from your playbook..."

2007-10-15 08:56 PM

Hans doesn't... but that's because he's a liar...

I think my alma mater might like to see this...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2007-05-16 10:17 AM
Hans

Posted by Hans


So if I could find a post from someone before 5/16/2007 with the same info (actually more specific), that would shove a wrench in the works wouldn't it...

I mean if there were a post in a thread on July 17 2006 at 11:40 AM, mentioning some things about you from a different poster, that would really fuck with your whole theory wouldnt it?

AU says:

I plan on voting for Obama. That's how much his black half matters to me


You're only voting for him to assuage your liberal, white-guilt.


*kidding*

I've said what I wanted to say.

Hans

Posted by Hans


Make sure you tell Ozarkaggie I said hi...

You're only voting for him to assuage your liberal, white-guilt.

*kidding*

Posted by JeffJ

Ya, I'm sure you are kidding. His contemporaries from both sides of the aisle describe him as a real unitor. He's smart as they come, principled, and someone I think a lot of. Coming from a lower middle class background and raised by a single mom, someone who's learned from his mistakes and really made something of himself - by himself - is very respectable.

I plan on voting for Obama. That's how much his black half matters to me

AU, I apparently have a lot more faith in race relations in this country then you do. In fact, I stopped thinking about Obama's race a long time ago. it is irrelevant to me, as it is to most Americans I believe.

I think that this election, like the 2000, and 2004 elections will be decided by a very small margin -- a single percentage point -- and if Obama does lose then it won't be primarily because of racism. In fact, I think that Obama will be the favorite if he wins the democratic nomination.

And while I acknowledge that there are of course going to be some people who vote against Obama becuase of his race, there will also be some people who vote for Obama because of his race -- and I think both groups who are racially motivated in their votes will represent only a small part of the total and tend to cancel each other out.

The very large majority of Americans are going to vote for President on the candidate's merits, their party, their experience, and the vision they have for America.

-Isn't that essentially a racist position to take

Analysis of the political implications of race does not imply racism to the analyst.

Colin Powell, a very popular republican war hero, apparently decided that the country was not ready then, and unfortunately, there are still a large number of Southern whites who wouldn't vote for a Yankee Liberal from NY, much less a black.

But more than in the South, and forgetting about race, there are Americans everywhere who won't vote for someone who is to the Left politically of that well known Socialist, Hillary Clinton.

-The very large majority of Americans are going to vote for President on the candidate's merits, their party, their experience, and the vision they have for America.

The swing voters are going to vote, with all of about 12 minutes worth of analysis, for the brand they recognize best.

Many of these still have never heard of Obama, or have only heard the name. Many of these also will pull the lever for Clinton without much cognition that this isn't exactly the same Clinton as before.

Ever watch Jay Leno street interviews?

Know what I mean?

Analysis of the political implications of race does not imply racism to the analyst.

That depends on what the analysis is of course. In this case it did imply that the analyst, AU, had staked out a racist position by making such a sweeping and definitive conclusion about an election 11 months from now.

BOWA

I started out in high school playing in funk bands in the inner city of Detroit when race relations weren't so peachy keen. Me and colorblindedness go way back. My whole career in music has been a rainbow experience.

Sadly though there are still people who wouldn't vote for a 'black' man no matter what. Ah, we'll see what happens.

I predicted a few weeks ago it would be an Obama/Huckabee contest. Ah, we'll see what happens.

By the way, I was just in NYC for a few days. Again, I'm impressed with what Rudy did for that city. A lot of it was seemingly small misdemeanor stuff like littering. Manhatten is pretty darn clean. The other burroughs are fairing pretty well these days as Manhattan rent has skyrocketed out of sight for all but the best wage earners. Even in the Bronx, apartments that were purchased for $100 are now worth $300,000. The cities across the river like Hoboken and Jersey City have seen a massive resurgence as well. Better views too. My buddy lives on the 31st floor of a new building with sweeping views over the Hudson of all of Manhattan. It looked like Christmas every night.

Know what I mean?

Wow, Corky. I am feeling pretty good right now -- I obviously have a lot more faith in the American people then both you and AU do -- and I am far less cynical.

Ever watch Jay Leno street interviews?

Know what I mean?

CORKY

Sadly yes. It's amazing that young people who grew up in pretty good surroundings seem as dumb as rocks. Of course, they probably pick the worst of the worst to air but still..... Even on that faux game show Leno does the ignorance of some is blaring.

I obviously have a lot more faith in the American people then both you and AU do -- and I am far less cynical.

BOWA

Sorry dude. When America put George W Bush in office twice they showed that some of us have every reason to be cyincal. The fact that so many bought Bush and Co's bullshit hook line and sinker - and continue to do so - will make one cynical too.

Not only that, but Bowow voted for GW twice, right?

I don't know why anyone would listen to him on politics at all.

-That depends on what the analysis is of course. In this case it did imply that the analyst, AU, had staked out a racist position by making such a sweeping and definitive conclusion about an election 11 months from now.

Posted by Bowa


This is why no one feels the need to make you look ridiculous. You don't need any help.

- I obviously have a lot more faith in the American people

Those rose-colored glasses need a new prescription.

I started out in high school playing in funk bands in the inner city of Detroit when race relations weren't so peachy keen. Me and colorblindedness go way back. My whole career in music has been a rainbow experience.

I grew up in an almost entirely black neighborhood. My best friends were black, my worst enemies were black, in short I learned very early on that skin color means absolutely nothing. I also learned that "racism" comes in all colors. As a a guy from the northeast, I can't speak to the racism that some people beleive is still central to many americans lives. It is not part of my experience. Even when I was in the navy, and people from all over the country -- from inner city detroit, from the whitest parts of nebraska -- were forced to live in close quarters months at a time -- I never witnessed any racism. And that was more then 20 years ago.

So when you make a comment like "Yes, I think racism will have more to do with an Obama defeat if he's the nominee and loses the election" it is contrary to the evidence I see in the news of his campaign, and also contrary to my own personal experience.

BOWA

You're mincing words. My statement implied that more people will vote against him because of his skin color than his middle name.

Sorry dude. When America put George W Bush in office twice they showed that some of us have every reason to be cyincal. The fact that so many bought Bush and Co's bullshit hook line and sinker - and continue to do so - will make one cynical too.

Well AU, I guess you got me -- I agree, the people who didn't vote for Bush do have a reason to be cynical. After all, I was cynical too when Clinton won twice.

It's going to be interesting to see how histopry looks at the Bush Presidency 20 years from now -- he will either be cursed as the person that lit the fuse on WW3 or he will be the prescient hero that found a way to defeat Islamo-Fascism before it exploded into WW3 and killed hundreds of millions of people.

and also contrary to my own personal experience.

Sadly, most people have not had mine or your experience with other races.

I once took a group of friends to Puerto Vallarta. Two older white couples from a wealthy burb, a white yuppie couple, black couple, interracial couple, two gay men, and two single women. These were people without a lot of experience with people of other races or persuasions. The first meeting was funny for me to watch. The wide eyes as they saw each other join the table.

Long story short, we had a fantastic trip, traipsed through the jungle, and still get together 20 years on. All people need is their own personal experience to shed preconceived notions garnered from second or third hand stories about some other group of people.

Posted by setpoint at 2007-12-06 09:46 AM

Of course Beever isnt a racist. just ask his wife shown here getting reedy for church with little Beever: cache.viewimages.com and she'll tell you Beever isn't a racist or a race baiter.

PS They were all friends os mine who didn't know each other until we took the trip.

You're mincing words. My statement implied that more people will vote against him because of his skin color than his middle name.

AU, I disagree with that as well -- I think nowadays a lot more Americans are anti-Muslim then they are anti-Black. And his name is problematic because it lends itself to all the worst types of smears and lies.

-- I think nowadays a lot more Americans are anti-Muslim then they are anti-Black. And his name is problematic because it lends itself to all the worst types of smears and lies.


Which is why he could win the Dem primary and fail miserably in the general election.

Hillary Haters, as many of them as there are, are still less numerous, in my opinion, than the number of fearful Americans the GOP can slanderously create with Obama's perceived political weak points.

The first meeting was funny for me to watch. The wide eyes as they saw each other join the table.

AU, One of the strangest differences between when I was growing in the 1970's and now is that there is no difference in the mannerisms between blacks and whites growing up in the same neighborhood.

If I had 'acted black" in my neighborhood, I would have been totally ridiculed -- not that there was that much "gangster" slang and talk back then --everyone pretty much acted the same regardless of color -- but if I had started to try to talk different and use certain phrases-- I would have been ranked on and made fun of without mercy. On the other hand, we all could tell racial and ethnic jokes to each other -- black, polish, italian, irish -- without fear of being branded racist or bigoted like today.

Corky Corky Corky Corky Corky!... Hey Corky!

Bet you never thought you'd see THIS endorsement for Hil!

"The same will happen to Barak Hussein Obama... By the time next Novemeber comes around I would bet around 40-50% think he is a muslim.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2007-12-06 02:39 PM"

Yup. The same 40-50% who voted for Bush. The half of America who actually think for themselves and don't just drink the GOP kool-Aid will be the other half.

BOWA

Ya, it's a whole 'nother thing today. I see so many young white guys with their pants around their knees talking like gangstas. I've explained to a couple of them that the whole thing about lowboys started as a badge someone has been in jail, where they take away your belt.

lmao!! SA Rose

If Hil can get Gen to vote for her, she get anyone to vote for her.

Not that I am at all cynical about Gen finding a clever way to promote herself.

"Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, she said, is "smart, sexy and experienced."

Biden sexy?

Watch out, Joe!

"The very large majority of Americans are going to vote for President on the candidate's merits, their party, their experience, and the vision they have for America.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-06 04:01 PM"

As a Judy Ruliani supporter, you better hope to hell they don't, or your "guy" doesn't have a chance.

The questions concerning Mr. Obama's early indoctrination with Wahhabiism is over. He did attend those schools as a youth, but apparently that particular maddrassa funded by the Saudi Wahhabis did NOT promulgate any Islamic doctrine (since they were prescient and knew that a future candidate for the U.S. Presidency was in attendance there), so Mr. Obama does not have an inkling concerning the nature of Islam. His father was an Islamic. His stepfather was an Islamic. His mother was an atheist-agnostic sort, who was attracted to "men of color."

Mr. Obama's grandparents raised Mr. Obama in Hawaii, and he attended a decent private school. He mingled with Americans in an American environment.

It is unfair to smear Mr. Obama as a person subject to Islamic discipline. He was a doper and drinker as are so many American youth. Mr. Obama was thoroughly acculturated, and his early exposure to lesser breeds without the law," was overcome by favorable conditions in the environment in which he was later reared.

All of the Islamic relationship controversy is cleared up since the matter was investigated and the determination made by CNN that the allegations had no merit.

I don't know about you folks, but CNN is a reputable source for me if it clears one of Ms Hillary's opponents since I thought that it favored Ms. Hillary.

I certainly don't regard Mr. Obama as a stealth candidate, a Manchurian Candidate, devoted to advancing the interests of Islam and the umma rather than those of the United States.

I do have concerns with Mr. Obama. One is his membership in a racist black separatist church in Chicago. That's voluntary, and an election made as an adult. But that and the consequences of his heavy hard drug use, brain damage, possibility of flashbacks and the like, are other considerations unrelated to fallacious accusations relating to his association with and allegiance to Islam.

Didn't a recent poll indicate that only 1%, or was it 10%, of Americans would consider an Islamic for presidential office. So, if that smear stuck, it would greatly decrease Mr. Obama's chances for election. His involvement with racism and drug use are other matters, apparently not nearly as detrimental to his candidacy.

When will the "really" heavy artillery come out, and report investigations into Mr. Obama's corruption, misuse of office or influence?

There are easons not to enter politics. Having a hangnail considered and reconsidered, can result in it being akin to a capital offense in terms of how demeaning such a condition is. Who could stand such scrutiny. We all have foibles, or matters that can be represented as foibles.

I see so many young white guys with their pants around their knees talking like gangstas.

That is one "style" I never understood. Guess I'm old. Ironic that youth who pride themselves on rebelling against authority would a adopt a jailhouse fashion that was not the choice of the incarcerated but had had been forced on them by "the man".

Who could stand such scrutiny. We all have foibles, or matters that can be represented as foibles.

That is one reason why many good people shy away from politics.

One is his membership in a racist black separatist church in Chicago.

Johnson, What do you mean "black separatist Church"? That is the first time I've ever heard that accusation made.

JOHNSON

Having done coke more than a time or two in my younger days touring with well known rock acts, I can assure you there are no flashbacks. LSD is the only drug ever claimed to produce such a delayed reaction, and that with only use in the hundreds of times.

Secondly, I was a memeber in the United Church of Christ, which is about as radical as Methodist of Presbyterian.

I would think graduating in the top 10% of both Columbia University and Harvard Law School would lay any brain damage claims to rest. By his sophmore year at Columbia he was no longer drinking or doing any drugs.

I would vote for Obama in a minute over any of the Repubes in a general election.

I do think he has been running for Pres for his 3 years in the Senate, he misses votes to campaign then castigates others for their vote, he has used PAC money to buy endorsements contrary to FEC rules, and he would take the first year to gather the kind of staff that Clinton could put together in a couple of months.

But regardless of nonsense like Johnson's about drugs and Islam, that will be just the beginning of the Swift-Boating he will get from the NeoGOP in a general election.

He has gotten pretty much a pass from the press and his opponents so far in the primary.

Posted by Johnson at 2007-12-06 05:05 PM

Weird

CORKY

I would guess your preferred Dem prez candidate has missed as many votes. She's also been running for president a tad longer starting with a Senate run.....

I'll vote for her if she's the nominee

She hasn't missed votes then condemned others who did vote. She also worked very hard as a first term Sen, gaining the respect of her state and both Dems and Repubs in the Sen. She started running in the second term.

If I were from Illinois, I would want my vote back from Barack.

I obviously have a lot more faith in the American people then both you and AU do -- and I am far less cynical.


Posted by Bowa at 2007-12-06 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag:


Thinking that Bush was the best you could do in 2000 and then 2004 is the very definition of cynical.

SPUD

I mentioned in an above post that I was a memver of the United Church of Christ, which started in England (according to the minister). Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheren would be comparable denominations.

I am also a member of The United Church of Christ.

The denomination was formed over 50 years ago when the old Congregationalists and the Reformed church united.
You may remember the Congregationalists were prominent in the "Amistad" trials. They were the first abolitionists.

They also ordained the first Black pastor in 1785, the first woman pastor in 1853, and the first openly gay pastor in 1972.

"You may remember the Congregationalists were prominent in the "Amistad" trials."

Interesting.
The linguist who translated the African language was named Gibbs.
His son invented the mathematical notation used today for Maxwell's Equations.

So then, it would appear that the title of this thread is apropo to our Mr. Johnson. Although he could certainly not be classified as a Clinton volunteer, he absolutely jumped in to try and smear Obama.

So 4 times you have not been able to answer the challenge on Obama's church. I guess mainly because, well, its a lie.

And should you wish to continue to float the Indonesian madrasah lie, you should probably first know that the term refers to BOTH religious AND secular schools. And another quick FYI - my partner of 12 years is Indonesian. My in-laws live in Jakarta, and are familiar with that particular school. Be glad to discuss just how "radical" it is with you.

I liked the United Church of Christ. The only reason I don't attend anymore is I moved and there isn't one in my vinicity.

We had banners on the sanctuary walls like "God is Love', 'Let there be Peace on Earth'. Christian principles that I believe.

Very friendly church.

My minister may have been referring to the Reformed Church in England as the root of the UCoC. Anyway, that was quite a few years ago.

UCC's motto now is "God is Still Speaking"

We just have to listen, I guess.

I see the coward Johnson is lurking on other threads, but hasn't had the balls (for the 4th time) to come back and face up to his lies.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-12-06 05:14 PM

LSD is the only drug ever claimed to produce such a delayed reaction, and that with only use in the hundreds of times.

Hasn't Mr. Obama done psychedelics?

No.

And yes, Oprah is a member of his church. Does that somehow purify the bile that the pastor spouts?

Oh, so you've personally attended the church and heard the sermons firsthand? What? You heard he spews hate? From whom? FoxNews or some super credible source like that?

Sorry, Johnson. You've lost all credibility on this subject.

Hello Johnson - why don't you address me? I'm the one who has challenged you multiple times on that lie? Why haven't you worked up the courage to try to defend your disinformation campaign?

Have you taken the time to read the analysis of Trinity UCC written in the "Christian Century"?

Would you care to substantiate your claims in any way. Or do you prefer to be relegated to kook status?

(A) Would you care to substantiate your claims in any way. (B) Or do you prefer to be relegated to kook status?

I think option B is already a reality SANANTON

Johnson-
Aren't you on "psychedelics" right now?

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-12-06 07:15 PM

And yes, Oprah is a member of his church. Does that somehow purify the bile that the pastor spouts?

Oh, so you've personally attended the church and heard the sermons firsthand? What? You heard he spews hate? From whom? FoxNews or some super credible source like that?

Sorry, Johnson. You've lost all credibility on this subject.

do I need to attend his Church, or can I just read the church's website, and view their positions?

Can I also view some other sites that show what they sell in their book stores.

Here are links.

Do we need a man so focused on blackness as the leader of America?

JOHNSON

You mean the guy raised by his white mother and white grandparents?

You sure sound like a closed minded racist. Adios amigo ('goodbye' in Wetback to interpret for ya)

From their webpage which you linked...

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

1. A congregation committed to ADORATION.
2. A congregation preaching SALVATION.
3. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
8. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
9. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY

Sounds just horrendous to me. Boy howdy.

Wright regularly preaches on the Black community's need to be more family centered, keeping black families intact, eliminating internalized feelings of inferiority, reducing crime in the Black community, relying on self instead of others to achieve equality and parity.

Wow, all things he should be ashamed of, I guess.

So is it the fact that Trinity and Wright keep African heritage and culture alive that offends you so much, or is it that Wright doesn't like Bush?

You Johnson, are the racist, as well as a liar.

Johnson-
Just out of curiosity, and I doubt that you would have the balls to answer this question, but:

Are blacks genetically inferior to whites?

I'll check your response later, as I have work to do.

The linguist who translated the African language was named Gibbs.
His son invented the mathematical notation used today for Maxwell's Equations.

Posted by Zatoichi

You should go on jeapordy.

"I don't claim 'credibility,'... I'll let the church speak for itself."

It does, and you have none.

"You should go on jeapordy(sic)."

Posted by eberly


I'll pass.

What was Josiah Gibb's middle name?

What was Josiah Gibb's middle name?

was he one of the BeeGees?

If you know your Fourier "analyses(sic)" (Thanks for exposing your ignorance, Ray.) you know Gibbs overshoot.

"was he one of the BeeGees?"

Posted by eberly




ha


ha





ha

Happy extinction.
Looking for low 80's on my birthday tomorrow.

In 1957 we had snow drifts.

JOHNSON linked from a bullshit rightwing website Sweetness-Light.com, not Trinity Church's. One that bolds every other sentence and rambles like JOHNSON's posts usually do.

Well done, AU.

Thank you for your declaration, Rogue. I suspect that you believe that it's conclusive.

You've cherry-picked the positions of the church and the opinions of the Pastor. If you were interested in learning his positions rather than providing kneejerk support to Mr. Obama, your observations would be more meaningful.

I suspect that the opinions of the Pastor are consistent with your own. He has issued many activist statements. I'll lsit some below. Upon review, Mr. Obama is a race hustler in the good old Jesse Jackson - Al Sharpton tradition.

Here is some material issued by the Pastor. It's just an excerpt. but if you were interested, you could enlighten yourself. I suspect that nothing in the realm of opinion could affect you. You seem to be in the transitory madness state of a lover, whose view is trhough rose-colored glasses, and nothing could cause you to disavow your love.

I wonder how Mr. Obama's Jew supporters will react when they learn of the long-standing anti-Israel and anti-Jewish venom issued by his Pastor? I think someone should notify some Jewish organization.

But non-Jewish lefties should continue to love him.

Here's an excerpt::


37. Q: Were the weapons inspectors allowed entry to the Ba'ath Party HQ?
A: Yes

38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, Iraq had in fact, been disarmed to a level unprecedented in modern history.
A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief.

39. Q: In 1998 how much of Iraq's post 1991 capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction did the UN weapons inspectors claim to have discovered and dismantled?
A: 90%

40. Q: Is Iraq willing to allow the weapons inspectors back in?
A: Yes

41. Q: How many UN resolutions did Israel violate by 1992?
A: Over 65

42. Q: How many UN resolutions on Israel did America veto between 1972 and 1990?
A: 30+

43. Q: How much does the U.S. fund Israel a year?
A:$5 billion

44. Q: How many countries are known to have nuclear weapons?
A: 8

45. Q: How many nuclear warheads has Iraq got?
A: 0

46. Q: How many nuclear warheads has US got?
A: over 10,000

47. Q: Which is the only country to use nuclear weapons?
A: the US

48. Q: How many nuclear warheads does Israel have?
A: Over 400

49. Q: Has Israel every allowed UN weapon inspections?
A: No

50. Q: What percentage of the Palestinian territories are controlled by Israeli settlements?
A: 42%

51. Q: Is Israel illegally occupying Palestinian land?
A: Yes

52. Q: Which country do you think poses the greatest threat to global peace: Iraq or the U.S.?
A:????

53. Q: Who said, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter"?
A: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

Members of Trinity are asked to think about these things and be prayerful as we sift through the "hype" being poured on by the George Bush-controlled media.

Rev Jeremiah A Wright, Jr.

I know AU. I thought that was a VERY interesting site that said much, much more about Johnson(less) than he intended to reveal.

We are dealing here with a person of copious quantities of verbiage, an amazing lack of honesty, and virtually 0 scruples.

If you read that piece in Christian Century I linked, you'll get a pretty good analysis of what Trinity and Wright are about. Wright is a sought after guest-lecturer at Seminaries all over the country - Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopal and others. I hardly think he would be real popular if we was a racist and a Black separatist.

"copious quantities of verbiage, an amazing lack of honesty, and virtually 0 scruples."

PAT ROBERTSON!!

JOHNSON's a right wing hack who loves the sound of his own (insert source here) thoughts.

Looks like for starters he hates the Trinity Church because they're not pro Iraq War like he is (along with the other 23% of Americans)

I meant "The failure of those belonging to this congregation to have any expressed allegiance to America is very discouraging, and it would make me wary of any Presidential candidate that professes to WANT to be the President of the United States of America yet belongs to a church that professes instead ONLY "a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA."

"You've cherry-picked the positions of the church and the opinions of the Pastor"

Cherry picked? I just posted the 10 principles of the church that were on the very first page of the link YOU provided.

"I wonder how Mr. Obama's Jew supporters..."

JEW supporters!!! Wow.

And as to your "list". You provide no link, and certainly no context. But what of what you posted, there are a couple of potentially controversial points, but nothing "shocking".

Oh, and by the way, who ever told you a congregant must agree with 100% of everything his/her pastor says? I certainly don't agree 100% with mine. And Obama has said he doesn't agree 100% with Wright on everything.

You are exceptionally intellectually dishonest, sir.

I suspect JOHNSON's a racist too

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-12-06 07:37 PM

Do we need a man so focused on blackness as the leader of America?

JOHNSON

You mean the guy raised by his white mother and white grandparents?

You sure sound like a closed minded racist. Adios amigo ('goodbye' in Wetback to interpret for ya)

The term "racism" does not deter me from voicing my opinion. Your definition of racism is hackneyed and trite. But put it out there. The more you use it improperly, the less meaning it has. But that's your choice. You try to deflect legitimate issues by designating them taboo.

I meant "The failure of those belonging to this congregation to have any expressed allegiance to America is very discouraging, and it would make me wary of any Presidential candidate that professes to WANT to be the President of the United States of America yet belongs to a church that professes instead ONLY "a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA."

Posted by Bowa

Hmmm. Every church I've ever belonged to only professed allegience to God and Jesus Ghrist. Never ever had one of them have us stand up and recite the Pledge of Alliegence.

"I have to say it is kind of scary that Obama belongs to a church that is "true to our native land" (Africa) and has a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA"

Yes, I could understand why you might think that if you accepted those words without understanding what they mean - sorta like Johnson.

They are not talking about political allegiance or commitment. They are talking about culture and heritage.

I would be uneasy with a church that professed a political allegiance to any country, including the US.

JOHNSON

Enjoy spewing at your computer screen for the foreseeable future.

America doesn't like your kind. Right wing racists went out of style a long time ago.

I get it JOHNSON

You live in Idaho. It's ALL clear now. Say howdy to Mark Furman would ya?

Hmmm. Every church I've ever belonged to only professed allegience to God and Jesus Ghrist. Never ever had one of them have us stand up and recite the Pledge of Alliegence.

AU, I know. That's why this church is so troubling. They went out of their way to profess as a congregation that they are "true to our native land" (Africa) and have a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA"

"The term 'racism' does not deter me from voicing my opinion."

No, but as you do, even in the midst of the excruciating verbosity, little nuggets of who and what you are are exposed.

"That's why this church is so troubling. They went out of their way to profess as a congregation that they are "true to our native land" (Africa) and have a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA"

Did you simply choose to ignore the fact that they are NOT talking about political allegiance? Nah, you wouldn't do that.

By the way, Trinity also undertakes huge anti-hunger and anti-aids campaigns as part of their COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.

Now that's certainly nefarious!

They are not talking about political allegiance or commitment. They are talking about culture and heritage.

Nice spin, San -- but that's not the way the website reads at all. What part of "non-negotiable" didn't you understand. And also "politics" are a part of culture and heritage? Thelines are blurred San. For example, how can you separate our American culture from the founding fathers, the Contistuion, the Declaration, etc. etc. You can't.

That is a very disturbing homepage for the church that Obama belongs to -- and if he's not questioned during the primary campaign about his membership in a Church whose loyalties are with Afro-centrism instead of America , then he is sure to be questioned about it in the general election.

Sort of put Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem into perspective -- maybe his heart doesn't belong to the USA but to Africa.

AU - he posted 2 links. One of them was for the special racist site, and one was for Trinity.

Bill Gates and many others also have a 'Commitment to Africa' in the form of AIDS funding, builidng hospitals and schools.

That's a BIG deal? LNAO

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2007-12-06 08:07 PM

Cherry picked? I just posted the 10 principles of the church that were on the very first page of the link YOU provided.

"I wonder how Mr. Obama's Jew supporters..."

JEW supporters!!! Wow.

And as to your "list". You provide no link, and certainly no context.

But what of what you posted, there are a couple of potentially controversial points, but nothing "shocking".

Oh, and by the way, who ever told you a congregant must agree with 100% of everything his/her pastor says? I certainly don't agree 100% with mine. And Obama has said he doesn't agree 100% with Wright on everything.

You are exceptionally intellectually dishonest, sir.

JOHNSON

OK, I have to fess up.

When I was growing up our church collected money in Sunday School to send to Africa. Yes, we had a commitment to Africa. I actually donated half my paper route proceeds to it. We had slide shows of poor African kids we sponsored. We had missionaries come and tell us what we could and should do to help if we could.

THERE!. I feel better getting that off of my chest.


(Psst. A LOT of evangelical churches have a commitment to Africa. SHAME ON THEM!!)

Mr. Obama seeks everyone's indulgence.

Can I help it if I am
Just an Afrocentric man?

No, you can't help it Mr. Obama, nor should you attempt to not be Afrocentric. But that certainly does not recommend you to be President of the United States of America.

Bill Gates and many others also have a 'Commitment to Africa' in the form of AIDS funding, builidng hospitals and schools. That's a BIG deal? LNAO

AU, Bill Gates makes his commitment to Africa part of his religiion? That's news to me.

Also, has Bill Gates expressed a desire to represent all Americans as the Presidnet of the United States while belonging to a church that went out of their way to profess as a congregation that they are "true to our native land" (Africa) and have a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA".

JFK had to assure americans that his allegiance would be to America first and not the Pope. And now Obama belongs to a church that professes a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA" while never mentioning any commitment whatsover at all to the United states of America.

That is incredibly disturbing.

Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are another two you should be VERY wary of JOHNSON. They have a commitment to Africa.

AU, Bill Gates makes his commitment to Africa part of his religiion? That's news to me.

BOWA

The entire evangelical movement is commited to Africa. They've had missions there for 150 years, and actively raise money to build schools and feed the poor there.

I know. It's all a giant conspiracy.

And teaching black families to stay together is awful too.

You guys are right. What was I thinking? I wanna move to Idaho and be just like you JOHNSON (who thinks Huckabee is too far to the left for you BWAAAAAAAAA !!!!)

We get it skinhead.

Skinhead:

johnson

"penis," 1863, perhaps related to British slang John Thomas, which has the same meaning (1887).

Online Etymology Dictionary, 2001 Douglas Harper

Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are another two you should be VERY wary of JOHNSON. They have a commitment to Africa.

AU, the commitment to africa is not the problem per se, it is that this church expresses no interest in or allegiance to the United States of America at all. And they link their Christianity to their afro-centric views -- which inextricably links allegiance to africa with the religious faith of Church's members.

For a candidate for President of the United States to belong to such a church is deeply disturbing.

Are blacks genetically inferior to whites?

I'll check your response later, as I have work to do.

Posted by Cooper at 2007-12-06 07:41 PM

What is inferior: DR posters who continually change their ID.....right Barney, BadWeek, Cooper....and all the other names you've used. Want to list them all for us?

"For a candidate for President of the United States to belong to such a church is deeply disturbing."

Fine. Be disturbed. It suits you to a T.

For a candidate for President of the United States to belong to such a church is deeply disturbing.

Posted by Bowa


I don't find it disturbing however I don't find GWB's faith to be disturbing either.

Can anybody on the left here say that?

AU, the commitment to africa is not the problem per se, it is that this church expresses no interest in or allegiance to the United States of America at all

BOWA

Please be welcome to find on any mainstream denomination's website any 'allegience to the United States'. (Hint: You won't ever find one)

I think this whole argument about Obama's church can be summarized by the Merck Manual's 14th Edition definition of a 'Bark' fart:

"(4) the "bark" type (described in a personal communication) is characterized by a sharp exclamatory eruption that effectively interrupts (and often concludes) conversation..."

Ride On-

Johnson didn't answer the question, did he?

Johnson?

Perhaps you would answer it, as Johnson has not the balls to go with his handle -- if you can overcome your obsession with me for a moment, that is.

"I don't find it disturbing however I don't find GWB's faith to be disturbing either.

Can anybody on the left here say that?

Posted by eberly"

Yes. I don't find it disturbing. I don't agree with it and wouldn't choose to adhere to his beliefs. But I don't find it disturbing.

I'll leave that to the drama queens like Bowa and Johnson.

Eberly-
re: "I don't find it disturbing however I don't find GWB's faith to be disturbing either."

You don't find his faith in his own gut/"god" disturbing? Did you just drop from the sky yesterday?

For a candidate for President of the United States to belong to such a church is deeply disturbing.

Stupidity rears his ugly head again!

The catholic church shows its allegiance to vatican not the United states but some how you dismiss that so you can politically hack at an opposing party candidate.

BOWA showing his stupid true colors all over again.

Can anybody on the left here say that?

I find this statement disturbing.

Gotta turn in.

Johnson - When you answer the question as to whether you think blacks are genetically inferior to whites, I'll chime in.

For some reason you find this a difficult question...

I never had a problem with Bush's faith until 'God' told him to invade Iraq. THERE I started to wonder who HIS God was. Surely not the one who's only begotton Son said "Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God" (Matthew 5:9).

War are 'Warmakers'? Sons of ?

I dunno, I find it pretty fucking disturbing that Bush thinks he has a two radio with God, and that God told him to invade iraq.

But that's not really the fault of his faith. That only gives form to his delusions.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-12-06 08:33 PM

(Psst. A LOT of evangelical churches have a commitment to Africa. SHAME ON THEM!!)

Don't blame me, I voted Badnarik.

You don't find his faith in his own gut/"god" disturbing? Did you just drop from the sky yesterday?

Posted by Cooper

No I don't find that disturbing because it is a lie. Yes Boyd, a politician lying to get votes.......go figure. His faith doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he does as POTUS. That has always been a mask to gather the evangelical vote.

Did YOU just drop from the sky yesterday?

Johnson-
It would behoove you at this point to state that "blacks" are not genetically inferior to "whites".

Can you do it?

Please be welcome to find on any mainstream denomination's website any 'allegience to the United States'. (Hint: You won't ever find one)

That's what makes this church so disturbing -- they should not be expressing any allegiance to any nation and linking it to their faith-- and yet this church goes out of their way to profess as a congregation that they are "true to our native land" (Africa) and have a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA"

And you are being intellectually dishonest if you think that commitment is purely evangelical as opposed to embracing afro-centric dogma and linking it to their faith.

I'll see ya'll around. If any one of Johnson's defenders is curious about his racist opinons, they should probably ask him now -- before they are further tainted by the stench.

Aloha.

BOWA

Disturbing eh? God forbid African-Americans should try to help Africa

What about your hero's relationship with the Catholic Church? The promises he made.

He get annulments? Nope. Leave his first wife for his second wife/second cousin who he was cheating with while married to #1? Yep. Cheat on second wife/second cousin with wife #3? Yep.

Barack Obama married to wife #1. No affairs.

This argument of yours and JOHNSON's is pitiful and you know it. Bye.

I dunno, I find it pretty fucking disturbing that Bush thinks he has a two radio with God, and that God told him to invade iraq.

YOu are pretty naive.

"Hans, please file this definition for future use..."

Done, AmericanUnity:

20071206-Saved as per AmericanUnity.txt

Hans

"they should not be expressing any allegiance to any nation"

Yeah, the sovereign nation of Africa. Good grief.

"And you are being intellectually dishonest if you think that commitment is purely evangelical as opposed to embracing afro-centric dogma"

Yes, I'm sure you've had the time in the last 1/2 hour or so to really gain an in depth understanding of what that means. Uh huh.

They admit (proudly) to being afro-centric. They espouse values such as Commitment to the Black community, commitment to the Black family and commitment to self-discipline and self-respect.

Here's about as radical as it gets for them...

"The God of our weary years" will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism and become Black Christian Activists, soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind ... "

Hmmm, the dignity of all humankind. BURN THEM!

"The catholic church shows its allegiance to vatican not the United states but some how you dismiss that so you can politically hack at an opposing party candidate."

The members of the catholic church have a theological allegiance to the dogma of the church -- but that does not supercede nor take the place of allegiance to one's nation.

On the other hand, the dogma of Obama's church makes it clear that they must be "true to our native land" (Africa) and have a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA" in which their religious faith is inextricably linked.

You can try to spin all this all you want. But frankly as someone who grew up in a black neighborhood, and whose parents were active in the methodist church whose members were overwhelmingly black (my mother was one of only two white people in the choir) I expected when Johnson had accused Obama of belonging to a "black separitist Church" that he was completely wrong and that he really meant that Obama belonged to a primarily black church like the one I grew up going to- with american flags in the sunday school classrooms, church dinners, and no afro-centric teachings requiring a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA" in order to be a member of the Church in good standing.

So you can imagine how shocked I was by the homepage of Obama's church -- whose focus on their "native land" and loyalty and commitment to Africa makes one wonder about what kind of commitment the congregation has to these United States -- or do they have any at all.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-12-06 08:46 PM

Skinhead:

johnson

"penis," 1863, perhaps related to British slang John Thomas, which has the same meaning (1887).

Online Etymology Dictionary, 2001 Douglas Harper

Thanks Hans

That Merck Manual definition #4 should come in handy time and time again LOL Could be renamed the 'Deflection Fart".

AU :-)

Eberly- So your position is that Bush doesn't believe he has delusions of speaking directly to god?

He's just a liar for the evangelical vote, huh? Gosh, that's so much better.

Let me ask: Did you vote for W?

Posted by Cooper at 2007-12-06 09:05 PM

Johnson - When you answer the question as to whether you think blacks are genetically inferior to whites, I'll chime in.

For some reason you find this a difficult question...

"On the other hand, the dogma of Obama's church makes it clear that they must be "true to our native land" "

Says you, and no one else.

And that has just as much credibility as those who would say Rootie would be subservient to Rome.

Oh, ya?

Ya.

Let me ask: Did you vote for W?

I'll answer the question just like I answer my 5 year old's questions regardless of how stupid it is.

Yes, I voted for him in 2000. I didn't vote in 2004.

It was a tough choice though considering the two studs he ran against ;-(

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-12-06 07:45 PM

... goes to a page with the first story "Woman beaten by 9 blacks', then stories on how the NIE was written by Democrat politcal hacks, Code Pink war protesters, etc.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-12-06 07:45 PM

... goes to a page with the first story "Woman beaten by 9 blacks', then stories on how the NIE was written by Democrat politcal hacks, Code Pink war protesters, etc.

Even though a room full of people heard Bush say god directly tells him what to do, eh?

Jesus you are naive. YOu really think he believes that tripe?

wow.

nite all.

The members of the catholic church have a theological allegiance to the dogma of the church -- but that does not supercede nor take the place of allegiance to one's nation.

On the other hand, the dogma of Obama's church makes it clear that they must be "true to our native land" (Africa) and have a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA" in which their religious faith is inextricably linked.

BOWA,

You are one demented psychopathological story teller.

The same dogma that resides from Obama's church also resides in the Catholic church but you just omit such to pander your political hackery.

The catholic church also goes so far as non-negotiable commitment to vatican just try and get married and tell them you will not raise your children catholic.

You continue to character bash individual candidates that are running opposite your party belief without any reason other than to use pejorical ad hominem as a fundamental moral character flaw.

I would suggest looking in your own back yard of multi-divorced candidate with all the moral character flaws for an entire family network and decide if your intentions actually aline themselves with your actions.

"On the other hand, the dogma of Obama's church makes it clear that they must be "true to our native land" "

Says the guy who thinks Africa is a country.

I dare say no one is particularly surprised that Bowa's is being completely disingenuous by deliberately misinterpreting the whole afro-centric issue, and commitment to Africa as meaning political allegiance, and somehow anti-America.

What is truly "disturbing" is someone like Bowa who suddenly fancies he understands the meaning and intent of an entire church congregation after only an hour or so of reading a few posts on a blog, and a summary on a home page.

"I expected when Johnson had accused Obama of belonging to a "black separitist Church" that he was completely wrong..."

OH, and as I believe the French would say: Bull Shit. You couldn't wait to hop on the bandwagon.

So in summary, we'll go ahead and put you down as not voting for Obama. Woo.

Even though a room full of people heard Bush say god directly tells him what to do, eh?

Jesus you are naive. YOu really think he believes that tripe?

wow.

Posted by eberly at 2007-12-06 09:53 PM | Reply | Flag

An equal number of people will believe he believes such tripe as those who believe he gets direction from god directly.

This is the moral/ethical/spiritual character of our leader. Kind of embarrassing isn't it.

Flaccido Domingo (aka Johnson),

black racist doctrine

the doctrines that the church spews?

its perncious(sic) doctrines

Pernicious?
Spews?
Racist?
Bile?

You sure do talk purty there, Dickweed.

You sure do talk a lot of shit.

Cover it up with 50 dollar words and "prolixity" to beat the band but the fact remains that yer an unprincipled hack and a hater.

Spud's got yer number, chuckles.

It's a negative number.

Spud not only aint got a problem with Obama's membership at Trinity nor the fact that there is a commitment to help out Africa and the African American community, nor the teachings and preachings to be found there. In fact, Spud finds them to be all consistent with the red letter teachings of Jesus Christ.

Wot Spud does have a problem with is you, me boyo.

If Jesus was here and now he'd be tempted to pimp slap the smug li'l smirk off yer face that Spud can practically see from across the aether. He wouldn't, of course, but He'd be sorely tempted.

Ta fer yer time spent of this subject and on this thread. It's convinced Spud to re-double his efforts to try and gain support fer Senator Obama.

Now, why don't you and Bowa go bowling or sommat?

Obama '08.

Be Well.

The entire evangelical movement is commited to Africa. They've had missions there for 150 years, and actively raise money to build schools and feed the poor there

AU, you are being intellectually dishonest. Anyone reading the homepage of the Church would never get the idea that the congregations' commitemnt to Africa was purely for missionary purposes. It is far deeper then that -- it professes an allegiance and a commitment to Africa that is far more extensive.

As I said before, I grew up in a black neighborhood, and my parents were active in the almost entirely black methodist church. In fact, my mother was one of only two white people in the choir. And never in all the years I went to Sunday school was a "non-negotiable" commitment to Africa like the one

"It is far deeper then that -- it professes an allegiance and a commitment to Africa that is far more extensive."

Where has Obama pledged similar allegiances, other than the recesses of your mind?

And the Catholic Church has for decades decried condoms in the most AIDS-ravaged parts of the world. Do you lay that at Rudy's feet?

"AU, you are being intellectually dishonest."

Now THAT is priceless!

"Anyone reading the homepage of the Church would never get the idea that the congregations' commitemnt to Africa was purely for missionary purposes. It is far deeper then that --"

But thats pretty much the extent of your knowledge about the whole thing, isn't it? You read the homepage and made a snap judgment.

Of course you didn't have time to read any reasonably objective material on Wright or the church. You've never set foot in the church. You've never heard Wright speak. You've never spoken to anyone who belongs there. But you're the expert, right? You know what is in their hearts.

And you have the cajones to call ANYONE else "intellectually dishonest". Pffffffttttt.

"the congregations' commitemnt to Africa was purely for missionary purposes"

Oh, and its not. As I stated before, they honor and preserve the African culture and heritage. They pay homage to their journey as a people, their struggle, and their survival.

Now who else does something like that? Hmmmm. Let me see...

Oh yeah, the Jewish people. Is that a problem for you too?

"Oh yeah, the Jewish people. Is that a problem for you too?"

I guarantee you it will be for Bowa if Bloomberg runs.

Bowa - you like to banty that little phrase "intellectual dishonesty" about freely. But it is apparent you don't actually understand the concept.

Let me give you a concrete example:

A bit earlier you got all puffed up with righteous indignation over this -

"Sort of put Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem into perspective -- maybe his heart doesn't belong to the USA but to Africa."

(By the way, "refusal" is an outright lie)

Then I pointed out that he had been caught in 1 single instance not putting his hand over his heart... and I provided photographic evidence of at least 2 other times that he did.

So did you come back and say something like, "Gee, maybe I overreacted. Maybe I could have been wrong and jumped to a conclusion based on pretty sketchy evidence."

No, you didn't. And that, my friend, is intellectual dishonesty personified.

It's not traditional to put one's hand over the heart while singing the National Anthem.

Wow. The rightie tighties are out of their ever loving minds.

johnson proclaims himself a Christian and considers Huckabee, a Baptist minister too far to the left. Idaho for sure for Johnson.

Both think Africa is a country someone can procalim loyalty to.

What fun!!

Posted by dethspud at 2007-12-06 10:15 PM

Ta fer yer time spent of this subject and on this thread. It's convinced Spud to re-double his efforts to try and gain support fer Senator Obama.

Now, why don't you and Bowa go bowling or sommat?

Obama '08.

Be Well.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2007-12-06 11:41 PM

Both [Bowa and Johnson] think Africa is a country someone can procalim loyalty to.

What fun!!

The twisting that is going on here with Obama's church is a bit ridiculous...

Who doesn't think Africa needs help and money and more help? The entire continent is a basic picture of shamble.

There are so many churches that want to help Africa.

There are Catholic churches that give homage to the Vatican--another country.

And there are many Christian churches that pray regularly for Israel. In fact it is written in Corinthians to Pray for Israel.

The church that Obama attends is wholeheartedly committed to Africa--so what!

As to this thread---the main thing going on here is that Hillary is going to pieces.

They are now behind in SC--The poll numbers are not yet coming out for the Super Tuesday in February--but I'll be willing to bet they are really bad for Hillary--That is why she has to get this negative stuff out.

She'll lose Iowa, win NH and then lose SC.

And since I am a registered Dem in CA--I get to vote Dem for the primary. I am leaning to Obama--only to put the screws to Hillary if anything else. I don't agree with most everything he wants to do to the country. But if he were to win CA--HIllary would just have a cow!

And that friends would be worth seeing!


Murphy

JOHNSON

I support Obama because I respect him and what he's made of himself as the son of a single mother. His honesty. A man who used his Columbia degree to take a $13,000 a year job helping others, who used his Harvard Law degree to do the same. A man who's actually practiced Christian principles.

My views of him have nothing to do with his race. If I were to lean towards doing that, based on Bush and Co. I'd have to say all white people were incompetents who lie as easily as most of us turn on a lightbulb and show no remorse for the massive loss of life they've caused. You speak of Obama's alleged allegience to Africa. Busha and Co. have ruined our reputation around the world and caused suffering the likes of which must cause Jesus to weep..

I've voted Republican in several presidential races in the last 30+ years. It was when narrow minded, bigoted pricks like you who profess to be 'Christians' took over the GOP that I decided the 'R' lever is off limits for the time being. The Democrats actually practice Christian principles. You know.... the red print. Try reading only it sometime and refresh yourself with Christianity. Your Churchianity doesn't resemble it in the least.

Good. I'm glad that you'll be active in behalf of Mr. Obama, dethspud.

"On" behalf ya mean? Good! Spud is glad yer glad.

I like your style, the way you express yourself, referring to yourself with the royal "We," and whatever.

Spud's style is umm unique anyway. Partially the point one supposes.

"Express yerself"? Do ya like NWA's version of that tune?

I'm droppin' flava, my behaviour is heriditary,
But my technique is very necessary.
Blame it on Ice Cube... Because he says it gets funky
When you got a subject and a predicate.
Add it on a dope beat
And that'll make you think.
Some suckaz just tickle me pink
To my stomache. 'Cause they don't flow like this one.
You know what? I won't hesitate to dis one
Or two before I'm through.
So don't try to sing this!
Some drop science
While I'm droppin' English

Small correction. Spud doesn't actually do the "Imperial We"

You musta got Spud confused with Queen Victoria, which is a common enuff mistake cos both Vickie and Spud dig dressing in black, kinda like Johnny Cash, doncha know?

You remind me of Popeye the Sailor Man. How's Olive Oyl? How's Swee'pea?

Eye Yam wot eye Yam and that's all wot eye Yam!

Enjoy the campaign.

Spud wouldn't miss it fer the world! ^_^

Be Well.

"The Democrats actually practice Christian principles. You know.... the red print."

Now there's a centrist force to be reckoned with, if it ever coalesced: The Red Print Democrats.

Feed the hungry, house the homeless, nurse the sick, and don't forget the parable of the talents: maximize your potential. The best of the left and the right.

"So, the Obama doctrine embraces racism and a pan-African concept that embraces all blacks in preference to others."

No, that's just a strawman set-up you need to proceed to a bullshit conclusion. The only place racism is embraced or blacks are preferred is in the recesses of your mind.

"I don't recall either Mr. Bowa or I even suggesting that Africa is a country. Do you have any such citation? One of us is daft, you or me. If you have the citation, it's me. If you don't, it's you."

I don't recall that you did Johnson, but Bowa, in his zeal to leap on the bandwagon and rush to judgment certainly did.

"That's what makes this church so disturbing -- they should not be expressing any allegiance to any nation and linking it to their faith-- and yet this church goes out of their way to profess as a congregation that they are "true to our native land" (Africa)..."

I love how someone who wasn't even aware of the issue an hour before somehow miraculously can see in to the hearts and minds of another group of people.

To paraphrase, I deeply suspect that your accusations are merely designed to tie Obama to images of "the black bogeyman"... it does not matter that the claims are false as long as they are out there.

Sanan claims, "I deeply suspect that your accusations are merely designed to tie Obama to images of "the black bogeyman"... it does not matter that the claims are false as long as they are out there."

I suspect the same of you and others, here, when they subtley called me a "Black Ka-NIG-hit".

You bigots know no shame, but project all your insults from your own bigotted minds ...

Why am I suddenly wanting to go watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail for the 186th time?

"Why am I suddenly wanting to go watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail for the 186th time?"

I suppose you think that those blokes were a bit too dense to understand the juxtaposition of Black with "kanighit"? So, you are going to watch some characterization of Black get cut up and sliced for their stupidity? While the White knight is victorious over all the abstractions that can be made from "Black"?

Maybe you should satisfy your apparent obsession?

Tadowe, I assume you've never seen the movie. Is this a correct assumption?

I haven't even heard of it until I came to the Drudge Retort. What's the Movie about anyways??

Larry Mohr

Last one, as I am at work.

Larry, Monty Python basically parodied the King Arthur legend. Actually, they butchered it, much to the amusement of... well, this is a guess, but I'll say just about everybody who's ever watched it.

"Tadowe, I assume you've never seen the movie. Is this a correct assumption?"

I've made my point -- so, what's yours? Three posts now, and no opinion forthcoming ...

Are you some sort of intellectual coward?

Ahhhhhh OK Now I understand. Thanks.

Larry Mohr

Tadowe, I'm asking if you've never seen the movie.

If this is the case, then you are merely mistaken in your assumptions, as you have no frame of reference as to what the others are talking about.

If you have however actually seen the movie, then you are either deliberately twisting matters about to make your (incorrect) point, or you are flat out lying.

So which is it?

And as I am at work, I'll wait until between 1130 and 1200 (my luinch break here) to see if you've come up with something other than "You're a coward because you don't agree with what I'm saying."

"If this is the case, then you are merely mistaken in your assumptions, as you have no frame of reference as to what the others are talking about."

I was the target of a concerted attack, holding me up to public ridicule for being a "Black Ka-NIG-hit." What is logical and reasonable about that? Come on, give me a clue ...

"If you have however actually seen the movie, then you are either deliberately twisting matters about to make your (incorrect) point, or you are flat out lying."

These same yahoos twist and spin words out of context CONTINUOUSLY!!! Yet, I'm somehow responsible for being called reviling and discriminatory sounding names ... is that what you are saying? I'm at fault for holding their STUPID UNCONSCIOUS FEET TO THE FIRE?

"So which is it?"

Stick your rhetorical questions somewhere dark and dank ...

"And as I am at work, I'll wait until between 1130 and 1200 (my luinch break here) to see if you've come up with something other than "You're a coward because you don't agree with what I'm saying."

Wait forever! What do I care about your angst over being an intellectual Georie Porgy ...?

Ah, a plethora of Funny Flags Tad who is STILL trying to pass himself off as the victim of racist attacks.

Or as someone so aptly put it yesterday, the poster who spends his time hissing and spitting at a world that has passed him by.

Just for the record for those who may not have been around on that thread, the comparison of Tad to the Black Knight in Monty Python's "Holy Grail" was because of the similarities between the 2 when it comes to denying they have been defeated, even in the face of insurmountable evidence to the contrary.

But I suspect you already knew he wasn't being honest about the situation.

Really, Chris, I don't mind that the idiots call me a NIG ... that's what Leftists and, or Democratics do all the time -- call people names and try to destroy their reputations.

I actually enjoy that the stupid amongst you (a significant minority) make mistakes like this and emphasize that I may very well be a:

B L A C K Ka-N I G-hit!

I also enjoy the terminally dense coming on afterwards and running in to mock and revile the target of their prejudicial and bigotted comments:

Just like petty little jerks similar to yourself ...

G R I N

Sanan gets excited ...

I'm not pretending! You, amongst others, continuously referred to me as a "Black Ka-nig-hit".

At the same time -- you leftists and, or democratics applaud the firing of someone who uses the term "niggardly"!!!

That person deserves to be fired because they KNEW that the word carried a negative connotation (for the illiterate, if no one else).

Now, here you are whining, and continuing to try and make me out to be the victim of your attacks ...

You all are SO VERY smart ... it is scary!

Thank GOD I am NOT Taddy's Son or ANY Relation. That would suck during Christmas dinner.

Taddy Boy: You worthless ingrate Larry how is the Leftist scum sucking traitors doing.
Larry Mohr: Fine Grandpa how are the overbearing neandertall's down at the old folks home doing.
TaddyBoy: Oh those Patriotic TRUE AMericans are doing splended and tell Me Larry how many flags have You pissed upon today.
Larry Mohr: None grandpa why do You ask. Need something ELSE to bitch about.
Taddy Boy: Now You listen here Sonny Don't You ever curse at Me You hear Me.
Larry Mohr: But Grandpa where do You think I got My foul mouth from.
Taddy Boy: Well I being the Patriotic AMerican that I am have EARNED the right to curse. You yellow bellied coward scum subversives have not.
Larry Mohr: Yes Grandpa now will You pass Me the mashed Taters and gravy please.
Taddy Boy: Shut Up and eat You traitorous scum.

Larry Mohr

Larry invents ...

Here you go, Letus ... they are obsessively compelled to make me the subject of conversation. Like the terrorists, they can't be held responsible for their actions and since I'm the one that causes them to act out in this way.

It is all my fault that they are thick-as-bricks ...

Tad - YOU are the only one who has taken a scene from a humorous, and decidedly non-racist film and chosen the deception that one syllable "nig", which was part of a faux-phonetic French pronunciation of 'knight" in the movie is a racist attack.

That says a lot about your honesty and character, or lack thereof. Or maybe I should have said your "calumny". LOL!

Kanigit making himself the subject again I see.

You're beyond dishonest and stupid, tad. Even the righties are embarassed by you.

I don't post for my reputation,

Good thing that.

And you didn't address any issue. You came in here whining about "black knight" to make yourself the victim, and the subject of discussion once more.

Congrats, ya self obsessed ninny.

PS- I'm not a democrat.

Whoa! Excuses for Sanan! "Tad - YOU are the only one who has taken a scene from a humorous, and decidedly non-racist film and chosen the deception that one syllable "nig", which was part of a faux-phonetic French pronunciation of 'knight" in the movie is a racist attack."

I didn't take IT! It was applied to me by others!

Get it? They are the ones that wrote "Black Ka-nig-hit", and not me. Why would they call me "Black Ka-nig-hit", Letus? Could it have been out of personal animosity and bigotry? Well, they chose the exact wrong term to use for their prejudicial attack on me. Or, if they didn't, I'm sure you will find a ready excuse for their acts and actions in dehumanizing me, with which to start? Come on and tell everyone how "NIG" is perfectly okay to revile and dehumanize another person ...

"That says a lot about your honesty and character, or lack thereof. Or maybe I should have said your "calumny". LOL!"

I'm not concerned with my "face" on a site of subversive, anti-patriotic jerks who attack anyone who disagrees with their lies and innuendos!

You all amaze me! That's why I'm here! It is like turning over a rock and finding squirming vermin, underneath! You never disappoint in your slimey behavior and scurrying efforts to look "beautiful" to eachother!

As I've mentioned, Alex is by far the best prize of the lot, but most of you do come in and place regulary ... please, continue and make me the subject ... I dote on it.

I love how tad thinks that link is his trump card.

When he overuses it, and proves it true every single day.

"Get it? They are the ones that wrote "Black Ka-nig-hit", and not me. Why would they call me "Black Ka-nig-hit", Letus? Could it have been out of personal animosity and bigotry? Well, they chose the exact wrong term to use for their prejudicial attack on me. Or, if they didn't, I'm sure you will find a ready excuse for their acts and actions in dehumanizing me, with which to start? Come on and tell everyone how "NIG" is perfectly okay to revile and dehumanize another person .."

To paraphrase one of greatest poets and philosophers of our time, Peter Noone...

"Second verse, same as the first!"

I hope Rcade isn't rationing FF's today.

Perhaps we should change the comparison from the Black Knight to Don Quixote. Tilt at those windmills Taddy.

But then again, I'm sure you'll find a way to manufacture something racist out of that too and work yourself into a faux self-righteous frenzy for weeks on end.

Why would they call me "Black Ka-nig-hit",

Cuz it's from a movie. You act like the knight in black...chopped to pieces but still thinking you can win.

Sanan goes on ...

See? Excuses and misdirections ... how pathetic you all are! You haven't the sense to just shut up ... but, hey!

That's what I enjoy about you slimey leftist attack artists -- you are so unconscious!

Excuses and misdirections

They're called "facts and reality". But please, continue to pretend you, an old white guy, were the victim of racism against blacks.

Moron.

"You haven't the sense to just shut up..."

Priceless. Thats really like the pot calling the kettle bl...

OOPS!

Let me rephrase that. Wouldn't want you to get upset or anything.

Anyway, I can't help but wonder when you'll begin lobbying Congress to pass legislation designating those who have been likened to a Monty Python character as a "protected class".

Let us know if you need signatures on your petition.

Let us know if you need signatures on your petition.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2007-12-07 08:46 AM | Reply | Flag:


I'm sure Hugh G Rection will sign. He can have his friend Phil McKraken sign too.

How about Seymour Butts, I.P. Freely, Hugh Jardon, and Amanda Hugginkiss?