Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Sunday, December 02, 2007

Republican Mike Huckabee and Democratic Sen. Barack Obama have taken the lead among Iowans likely to take part in their respective party caucuses, according to The Des Moines Register's latest poll.

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hhhhhmmmmmm..
he is on with little georgie right now and when asked about his comments about the taxes in arkansas that he raised and all......
he hemmed a little

and when asked about the scholarships for illegals and georgie porgie asked him if he was president would he support illegals getting pell grants and such........and HE DIDNT SAY NO.........

that could be bad.

not as bad as rudy got in the debate when he talked about gun control....( he lost millions of votes with that one)......

Obama in the lead?...has anyone put Corky on suicide watch!

not as bad as rudy got in the debate when he talked about gun control....( he lost millions of votes with that one)......

he lost millions of votes because he supports licensing and background checks for gun owners?

Come on BL2 -- if there were millions of 2nd amendment conservative votes even out there -- duncan hunter would be in the top tier.

I hate to break it to you BL2 but Rudy's strategy is working -- he decided to basically ignore the conservative base by appealing to all us GOP moderates in the big more urban states with lots of delegates -- he bet correctly that the conservatives would split their vote among Huckabee, Romney, McCain and Thompson - which left Rudy locking up the center -- the people that conservatives denigrate as RINO's -- but guess what -- we vote in the GOP primary's too.

And now that Huckabee threatens to destroy Romney and thompson in Iowa and SC but doesn't have the organization or appeal to win in the big states on Feb 5th -- the field is perfectly positioned for Rudy/Huckabee 2008

Hey "Bowa", how's the weather today in Fantasy Land?

Hey "Bowa", how's the weather today in Fantasy Land?

We shall see Lisa.

many people here have been making fun of me for over 10 months over my support for Rudy -- I have lost count on how many times I've been told that Rudy was doomed and should be long gone by now-- and nobody except me predicted that he would be at the top of the polls at this late date. or would get the GOP nomination.

So so far the only people who have been in fantasy land are the Lefties here who claim to know what the GOP is really about and yet have so far been proven wrong over and over again.

Yo Bowa,

...and nobody except me predicted that he would be at the top of the polls at this late date. or would get the GOP nomination

Spud's been saying fer well over a year that the script the way the MSM and real powers-that-be have written it has Rudy v. Hill fer '08.

Spud, of course, wants it to be Obama and RP but Spud has never wavered on that point.

Still don't.

Spud sez "Fight the Power"

"Fight the Powers-that-Be"

Obama '08

Be Well.

Spud's been saying fer well over a year that the script the way the MSM and real powers-that-be have written it has Rudy v. Hill fer '08.

Then I stand corrected Spud -- like me, you are a visionary.

:-)

But I do think that Obama is looking more like a real possibility to win the Dems. nomination.

Spud, of course, wants it to be Obama and RP but Spud has never wavered on that point.

I think RP will do a 3rd party run -- and as the only anti-war candidate he will take more votes away from the democrat then the Republican.

like me, you are a visionary

Spud didn't even know Bowa liked Peyote!

Quelle Suprise!!

I think RP will do a 3rd party run

There is a groundswell of support fer this notion Spud is aware but Spud maintains that he won't and that even if he did he would draw his voting base more from disaffected non voters than from either the Dem or Rep side.

Obama is looking more like a real possibility to win the Dems. nomination.

Obama is real.

Be Well.

"and as the only anti-war candidate he will take more votes away from the democrat then the Republican."

Only in the mind of a delusional
bow wow would the 3rd party candidacy of a conservative, pro-life, life-long Republican be a threat to the Democratic nominee.

Hans

Obama is real.

As I said on another thread.

Well I'm a Republican and I've been saying for months that if Rudy doesn't get the nomination but Romney does and Obama is the dem nominee -- then I am going to have a hard time voting for Romney.

Obama is a very likeable candidate -- he's honest, and authentic -- and I believe that if he becomes President and soon realizes that diplomacy is impossible against Islamic Jihadists because they view him as an apostate -- which would even deepen their hatred of America (if that is even possible) -- that he will be forced to take a hard line in the Middle east -- and the Democrats would then be forced to get on board unifying the nation behind a basically neo-con agenda.

My big dilemna of course is over federal courts and SCOTUS appointments and there is no doubt in my mind that Obama would try to move the court to the Left.

But I think Romney is just a big sleazy phoney in the mold of Bill Clinton -- so I don't know what I would do if its Obama vs Romney. I guess I would hope that Bloomberg gets in as an indepependent and then I would vote for him.

But Noonan is right -- An Obama candidacy creates a real problem for the GOP, while Hillary would unify the party against her no matter who the GOP candidate is.

BTW: I know people scoff at my "apostate" comment -- but as the son of a muslim, who then chose of his own accord to be Christian when he was an adult, Obama is an "apostate" in the eyes of Muslims and under Sharia law that is punishable by death. Given that thousands of Muslim exremists are calling for the death of a teacher over the naming of a teddy bear -- it is not unreasonable to think that an Obama Presidency whereby the "great satan" would now be led by an apostate would not amplify the Jihad by muslim extremists against the US.

"but as the son of a muslim, who then chose of his own accord to be Christian when he was an adult"

Oops:

Barack Obama's father (also named Barack Obama) was born on the shores of Lake Victoria in Alego, Kenya. Although the elder Obama was raised as a Muslim, no evidence supports the claim that he was ever a "radical Muslim," and Senator Obama's family histories note that his father was an atheist or agnostic (i.e., no longer a practicing Muslim) by the time he married the younger Obama's mother.
I wonder if bow wow is just mistaken? Or is there something else in play?

sad.. very sad.

Hans

That never even crossed my mind Bowa...and as Hans pointed out although raised Muslim his father may have turned his back on his Muslim upbringing. Even more reason for their hatred.
Interesting point.

and as Hans pointed out although raised Muslim his father may have turned his back on his Muslim upbringing. Even more reason for their hatred.
Interesting point.


Yes, under Sharia law the son is the born with the same religion as the father. Whether the father was a practicing muslim or not is irrelevant -- he was a muslim and so his son was.

When Obama became an adult and actually chose to become a "christian' of his own free will, he became an apostate under Sharia law which is punishable by death.

Of course, nothing would make Lefites in the US finally stop defending Jihadists in their hatred of America, then if they started railing against a President Obama, the apostate, whicn is even worse then if he was just an "infidel" -- so I don't think an Obama presidency would be a bad thing for America and may even unify the country in the war on terror.

Hmmmm...I looked it up in the dic....I would think the " apostate " handle belongs to his Dad ; he was the one that walked away from his Muslim upbringing.

"Hmmmm...I looked it up in the dic....I would think the " apostate " handle belongs to his Dad ; he was the one that walked away from his Muslim upbringing."

Thanks, Kerrin.

Hans

I like Obama! I have not made my choice quite yet. I like negotiating instead of war.
Americans are united on the war on terror. Bowa where have you been. We are not united on how we deal with the problem.
That is a problem in a democracy, people can disagree.
You may think that sucks, I do not.
We lefties do try to understand Jihadists in their hatred of America, we read the history of the region and try to understand our enemy and why they hate us.
What we do not defend are their methods.

Once Hillary is knocked out, you will probably see Al Gore step up.

Come on guys, Obama = Rudy and smart Dems know it.

Obama, as attractive as he may be is just not experienced enough to be President in this cycle given the hole the country is in, and that will be the spin the GOP does him in with.

The only candidate that can beat Rudy aside from Gore, is Biden who can bury all these guys with his decades and decades of experience with foreign policy and will according to the latest Rasmussen poll show a strong 4th in Iowa.

Hmmmm...I looked it up in the dic....I would think the " apostate " handle belongs to his Dad ; ,/i>

Obama's father was a muslim, his stepfather was a muslim and Obama became a Christian after puberty.

It's pretty clear that Obama is an "apostate" under Sharia law.


Once Hillary is knocked out, you will probably see Al Gore step up.

GZ is the worst political prognosticator next to Bubba Bowa. I say the race was fixed by the Bushes and the Clintons to make Hillary the next president. Save this in your computer too GZ.

it is not unreasonable to think that an Obama Presidency whereby the "great satan" would now be led by an apostate would not amplify the Jihad by muslim extremists against the US.


Posted by Bowa


You need to take out, or add, a negative to that sentence.

The only candidate that can beat Rudy

Nobody will have to face RudiG. The man is toast. As dishonest as Cheney and with morals that make Bill Clinton look like a celibate.


A master celibate.

But tonight, within spitting distance of Giuliani's rival GOP candidate Romney, Scheffler explicitly urged Iowa Christians to oppose Giuliani in the race for the nomination. "If our party nominates this guy," he told a crowd at a Dubuque gathering of the ICA, "we will see a bloodbath at the polls like we've never seen before."

Scheffler went on to slam Giuliani's position on same-sex marriage, life issues and gun rights. "Rudy Giuliani cannot be elected," he said, citing the ex-mayor's differences with social conservatives. "We cannot afford to nominate somebody who's out of touch with the base."

Any minute now Corky will be telling us that the Hilderbeast always expected to lose Iowa.

Any minute now Corky will be telling us that the Hilderbeast always expected to lose Iowa.

Makes as much sense as Bowa's claim RudiG always intended to get his ass kicked (a distant 3rd and slipping)in Iowa.

"Hillary Sticks With Iowa Strategy
Posted May 24, 07 2:29 PM CST in US, Politics

Source: Associated Press (newser) Hillary Clinton rejected a top adviser's plan to bypass the Iowa caucuses, the New York Times reports, and she'll visit the state this weekend."

Another comparison to Bowa and I'm cutting off your supply of Depends.

FF Corky.



I am more concerned about Rudy's creative financing on his peccadillo's...not his stance on abortions or gays. I could care less about Huckabee's religion if he wasn't a big gov nanny stater. I still think Romney is the "chosen " candidate that we will be stuck with. Darn...I wish we had a national primary day so the candidates were on a more even feild .
I'm having a hell of a time trying to find one of them to vote for...but alas...
Like the dems we will vote for who we have to. It's a damn shame but it just boils down to the lesser of two evils on each side of the aisle. I don't much care for any of the candidates on the repub side and I care even less for dems. I

Yes, under Sharia law the son is the born with the same religion as the father. Whether the father was a practicing muslim or not is irrelevant -- he was a muslim and so his son was.

That law exists so that Islam can be spread by rape.
I really think it's time to reject such barbaric thinking. I don't care what religion a bunch of pedifile rapists say Obama is, I care what religion Obama says he is.

What's the deal with Huckabee, if anyone here didn't know I live in Iowa. All of my republican coworkers just say "he seems really nice!".

Didn't we play this game already with GW Bush?

"What's the deal with Huckabee, if anyone here didn't know I live in Iowa. All of my republican coworkers just say "he seems really nice!".

Didn't we play this game already with GW Bush"
You be right, sir-- another "compassionate Consservative"


OMFG, he's SO in over his head! He better get better at spinning if he wants to go toe to toe with anyone. At the end of the
interview that Hukleberry spent rope-a-doping George Stephanopolous' questions George asked him if he was consulting with Dick Morris-- DICK MORRIS!!!! And Huckster said something like, "Golly gee, I've known the guy for a long time-- I WISH he was helping me out, but no, by golly he isn't."

Yeah, RIIIIGHT, MIKEY!

No wonder Dickie's been kissing your ass in the media

recently. Man, with advisors like Chuck Norris and Dick Morris, how can Huckabee go wrong, LOL?

I remember a couple months ago when good ol' Rudy said "I like Huckabee, he makes me laugh".

He makes me laugh too.



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