Yeah when You don't have things to worry about like America heading into the Toilet I would suppose Your mental health would be AOKAY. Makes sense.

Larry Mohr

Larry-
What are you doing up at this hour? Or is it still night time and you haven't slept yet?

"Fifty-eight percent of Republicans report having excellent mental health, compared to 43% of independents and 38% of Democrats."

I guess that kinda explains the actions of Buffalo Bob, Larry and Danni. The only thing from the report I doubt is that only 62%of out little democrat friends are impaired.

I got up to take some medicine OohRah. Sucks but what can Ya do You know?? What about You??

Larry Mohr

Hey Jest You know what they say Ignorance IS Bliss so the Republicans MUST be living in seas of ignorance.

Larry Mohr

"I got up to take some medicine OohRah."

Hmmmm...what kinda meds you takin', Larry, some kind of hallucinogenic?

(Just kiddin'...hope it's not sumpin serious.)

Nah that generic no frills version of nyquil syrup doohicky thingymabopper stuff. No Psychodelic stuff.

Larry Mohr

Larry- I remember you saying you had the flu.

Me? I woke up a little before 4am (eastern) and wanted to get after it so I got up, worked out, hit Sam's & Wal Mart before the crowds... and then will be doing the old honey do's the rest of the afternoon. Might try to get lucky wit the old lady before company comes tonight - hopefully my successful honey do's will pay off!

Good Luck with the Nookie thing OohRah.

Larry Mohr

Hey, there's always Rosie. She's always there to lend a hand when times are tough.

To be serious for a moment, Larry, do you think there's anything to this story?

I'm not sure exactly how people are defining positive mental outlooks. I do think one's faith in God plays a role in overall contentment and your mental outlook on life. To what extent, I don't know. And, I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that a higher percentage of Republicans would say they are more deeply into faith/religion vs Democrats. Thoughts? Might they be tied together somehow?

That is where You and I differ OohRah. You have claimed numourous times that more republicans believe in God/Faith than Democrats which isn't true at all. Why Republicans are more mentally happy I would hazzard a guess as to them being more closed minded than a Democrat Liberal. a Liberal tends to be one that worries about stuff more than a Republican conservative. That and the Republicans tend to hold onto the safety of the past than the insecurity of the future. If that makes any sense.

Larry Mohr

"You have claimed numourous times that more republicans believe in God/Faith than Democrats which isn't true at all." - Larry

Is there a reliable source we can both agree on that could shed some light on that issue? I'll take a look - how about you doing it, too?

Kewl I'm game I'll do some digging.

Larry Mohr

Larry,
I had to create an account on Gallup, so I don't know whether these links are accessible without creating one for yourself. That's why I printed the text below.

Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls

One needs only to read some of the wacked out posts by Lefties here to see that that is true.

Larry-
What is your search turning up? Gallup supports my side of the argument. Do you have any refuting information? If not, do you accept my thought that more Reps are into faith/God than Dems? Or are you going to offer a rebuttal saying Dems are more spiritual but refuse to be pidgeon holed into a particular religous affiliation? That would be a tiny pin you'd be dancing on.

It's not even close: Nearly 4 times as many libs as cons claim no religious affiliation... and over twice as many Dems as Reps claim no religious affiliation.

It's not surprising to me that political independents are the most likely to also not claim any religious affiliation. They pride themselves in not being "sheep," belonging to any group. A casual glance at the DR could tell us that.

The reason the relationship exists between being a Republican and more positive mental health is unknown, and one cannot say whether something about being a Republican causes a person to be more mentally healthy, or whether something about being mentally healthy causes a person to choose to become a Republican (or whether some third variable is responsible for causing both to be parallel).

The article seems to conclude that Republicans really HAVE better mental health, simply because they believe they do. It would be interesting for other experts to do a psychological evaluation of this same group, without interjection of their own opinion.

As an alternative interpretation, my own observation is that many Republicans are not completely realistic in their views of the world around them. Some republicans may even be delusional. However, before you righties go through the roof, I'm sure you can find delusional tendencies within almost any group (see Buffalo Bob). This poll could certainly be a reflection of that, since it is only a reflection of how republicans feel about themselves.

A. Evolution, that is, the idea that human beings developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life .
Definitely true
Probably true
Probably false
Definitely false
No opinion

2007 Jun 1-3
18%
35
16
28
3

...SO 53% ...YES TO EVOLUTION
44% ...NO TO EVOLUTION
******

B. Creationism, that is, the idea that God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years

Definitely true
Probably true
Probably false
Definitely false
No opinion

2007 Jun 1-3
39%
27
16
15
3

66% YES FOR CREATION
31% NO FOR CREATION



Same people, same poll, same day? Hepl...my over medicated brain is spinning.

Actually, the more I think about it, a better RETORT headline for this thread would be:

Repubs Unrealistic About Mental Health

Perhaps RCade would like to use that headline, if he moves this thread to the front page.

Rethugs think they have great mental health?

Well, crazy people are usually the last ones to admit to the fact so that's understandable.

They are reality impaired and their leader is an treasonous cum-drunk, cokeheaded, booze-hound chickenhawk with advanced pre-senile dementia that they think is great "War President".

If folk weren't getting killed and tortured this story'd almost be funny.

Almost.

Be Well.

Spud & others who wonder about Rep delusion...
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Serious question. If the poll results had been reversed (and Dems had the better state of mental health) what would your comments have looked like?

See, for me anyway... for the most part, liberals I deal with through work & family (and a few socially) are among the most pessimistic, sarcastic, negative folks I know. They feel things are seldom "fair." They're not happy unless they're upset at someone or something.

They are condescending to those with whom they disagree. Factor in the "this world is all we get" faith piece and it's easy to see how libs can get down.

While an anonymous blog like the DR isn't the reality of face to face interaction... I think just looking at the tenor of various posts provides an interesting glimpse into the mindset (positive or negative) of people.

(and Dems had the better state of mental health) what would your comments have looked like?

I think I tried to address that, and I quote myself:

I'm sure you can find delusional tendencies within almost any group (see Buffalo Bob)

I don't believe we can extrapolate from this poll that any group has a "better state of mental health". It is simply fascinating that Republicans believe (have faith) that they do.

Oohrah says:

If the poll results had been reversed

But it's not, even though the author of the article tried to make it so.

I am pointing out the position I believe this poll strongly suggests.
It may have nothing to do with mental health at all. Republicans may just be more self-confident.

WHAT-
Something that would be interesting is to have an understanding of what "mental health" means, both to the questioners and those responding. Does it mean contented, optimistic, well-adjusted, realistic, etc?

See, for me anyway...

If we're going to use personal insight (I've been chastised for this in the past), my father was an extremely conservative republican. He was also extremely mentally ill. His mental illness cost him association with almost all of his family and friends, many of whom were conservative. Yet he swore for most of his life that he was NOT the one with a problem.

liberals I deal with through work & family (and a few socially) are among the most pessimistic, sarcastic, negative folks I know. They feel things are seldom "fair." They're not happy unless they're upset at someone or something.

I find just the opposite. Many republicans I know are bitter and angry. They blame "libruls" for all of the nations ills, even though control of the nation was in the hands of republicans for six straight years.

IMO, the 'mental health' of this nation could stand a lot of improvement. The bitter, backbiting partisanship is wearing on everyone.

I guess part of what I'm implying might also be how Reps respond to polls on Dubya. Very few Dems would rate his job performance "good" while more, but perhaps not a majority of Reps would rate it "good." It is subjective.

Still, there are perceived "realities" on the part of voters that lead them to reach such conclusions. Yes, you can be a "happy" person... but what does that entail and how can your world's circumstances alter it? I'm no shrink so this is where I exit.

Something that would be interesting is to have an understanding of what "mental health" means, both to the questioners and those responding. Does it mean contented, optimistic, well-adjusted, realistic, etc?

Less general, more specific terms may have made for a better poll.

I'm closing up shop to go home. I'll probably be back latter.

Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent

Could be a perception/misperception thing.

Could be that Republicans are generally less accepting of anything outside the "Leave it to Beaver" world, and so more likely to be in denial about their mental health issues.

Could be that the Democratic base includes a lot of groups especially at risk for stress-related mental health issues -- minorities and those with little money/wealth, e.g.

Could be a lot of things.

Their self evaluation is a measure of a profound failure to be introspective or differentiate fact from fiction. That is for their followers. Their leaders are charlatans and thieves.

They are not, as Nutcase points out, a terribly introspective crew. Of course they're happy. It's all first-person singular:

I

Me


Mine

Their self evaluation is a measure of a profound failure to be introspective or differentiate fact from fiction. That is for their followers. Their leaders are charlatans and thieves.

Posted by nutcase at 2007-12-01 05:41 PM

....and hence, nutcase reinforces the circular articles. Does nutcase believe that Repub leaders are charlatans and thieves and the Dem leaders are NOT? roflmao

for the most part, liberals I deal with through work & family (and a few socially) are among the most pessimistic, sarcastic, negative folks I know. They feel things are seldom "fair." They're not happy unless they're upset at someone or something.

They are condescending to those with whom they disagree. Factor in the "this world is all we get" faith piece and it's easy to see how libs can get down.

Posted by OohRah at 2007-12-01 03:27 PM | Reply

Good post, Ooh. I find that Conservatives tend to be more realistic, while Liberals tend to be idealistic. A realistic person will see the limits of government while the idealistic Liberal believes it's possible to achieve nirvana on Earth.

Since that is not possible, they are always disappointed and angry. And they frequently try to blame those they disagree with for spoiling the fun.

Look at all the looney conspiracies the Left has about: oil, Halliburton, 9/11, the Florida ballot, Global Warming(tm) blah, blah, blah. All the Dem candidates try to out-promise and out-pander the competition, promising everything -- if voters just have faith (in them).

Every time things don't turn out perfectly (in their eyes) then it must be because of a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

A realistic person will concede that shit happens, and that there are not always conclusive answers.

>>>Their self evaluation is a measure of a profound failure to be introspective>>>

Bingo. Couple that with a subjective interpretation of what mentally healthy means and you have a survey that isn't worth the paper it was printed on from a scientific perspective, but it does make an interesting social commentary.

>>>Does nutcase believe that Repub leaders are charlatans and thieves and the Dem leaders are NOT?>>>

They are all the same: narcissistic self-serving profiteers.

But they are the same wackjobs that believe I-35 leads to the Pearly Gates.

Go figure.

Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict.

I state that because Rush strikes me as someone who would have answered affirmatively here.

yet is is a drug addict a definite and recognized mental illness.

just shows you.

the idealistic Liberal believes it's possible to achieve nirvana on Earth.

Vern,

Do you ever travel anywhere without your strawman sidekick?

Look at all the looney conspiracies the Left has about: oil, Halliburton, 9/11, the Florida ballot, Global Warming(tm) blah, blah, blah.

Yea Vern, sure. The conspiracy theories the right has about the Clintons alone could easily match this list.


Northguy says:

But they are the same wackjobs that believe I-35 leads to the Pearly Gates.

Vern believes these people are realistic.

"Go figure"

Liberals - stop wearing those tinfoil hats, there is no mothership waiting behind the moon waiting to deliver free healthcare.

Liberals spend their entire lives waiting for the redistribution of wealth as promised by their class warfare preaching leadership.

Conservatives spend their entire lives working.

And Zulu comes in and spouts off a bunch of talking points instead of reading the article and joining the conversation, because....well...that's what Zulu does..

Nutcase believes Democrats and Republicans pretend to give us choices, when they both work for the same masters. There is a small but discernable difference like 70% in the pockets of crooks instead of 90%. Nutcase also believes there are rare times when politicians put the best interests of the country first, but it takes a crisis to break most of them out of their self absorbed haze. We should be thankful to have people like Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Barbara Boxer and James Web represent us. But 5 voices won't even make a committee or policy.

Well stated.

Hey OohRah I just woke up a little bit ago. I will hit You up tomorrow.

Larry Mohr

Speaking of mental health, has anybody heard from TONYROMA about how he is doing? No mental probs there, but I hope he is getting better and ready to go home.

"But the key finding of the analyses presented here is that being a Republican appears to have an independent relationship on positive mental health above and beyond what can be explained by these types of demographic and lifestyle variables. The exact explanation for this persistent relationship -- as noted -- is unclear."

That's what I did, cleared things up:

Liberals spend their entire lives waiting for the redistribution of wealth as promised by their class warfare preaching leadership.

Conservatives spend their entire lives working.

Was it so hard to predict that Liberals are depressed when they are raised to believe they are victims?

My guess would be its more of a definition issue.
(obviously this is all just a personal opinion)

Liberal: Well I do get depressed sometimes, and sometimes I lay awake at night thinking about work projects, so thats probably a sign of something I could work on. So, I'll say I'm good.

Conservative: I haven't shot my wife and I don't see little blue men crawling around my chair. Excellent it is!

has anybody heard from TONYROMA about how he is doing?

I wasn't aware that TONYROMA was ill. I hope everything's okay!

speaking strictly from a conservative pov - i and my immediate family are in excellent physical and mental health - the strongest drugs we ever take are aspirin and beer.

i am nearly 52 and my husband is 43, but we do keep mentally and physically active and have two teens we're trying to stay up with.

i do, however, come from a very large family of leftwing liberals - i've never seen a sicker bunch of people - my own mother, for instance, had several nervous breakdowns by the time i was ten or so and was always on some sort of drug or another - one i remember clearly was "meprobamate", although i don't know what it was for.

when you come from a family like mine, you tend to run in the polar opposite direction.

Repubs think?

yeah sure........every now and then........

but look its easy fer me to talk bout that there stuff.......cents I are a collage graduaate.

OohRah is ask...

Spud & others who wonder about Rep delusion...
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Serious question. If the poll results had been reversed (and Dems had the better state of mental health) what would your comments have looked like?

Serious answer...

This poll is meaningless.

This is a poll asking people whether or not they'll cop to having mental health issues. The results are based on their perceptions not on reality.

Spud's original answer makes this point in a half joking half serious way.

Spud prolly should haff included his traditional "/snark>" at teh end or ^_^ to indicate a joke was being made but quite seriously Repubs have a greater tendency to be under-informed and over confident and this poll simply reflects that unfortunate reality.

This is why at the last you-tube GOP debate the candidates played and pandered to their bases with feel good sound bites like "we're about winnig the wart in Iraq and the Dems are about losing the war" and it also explains why the crowd lapped it up like fresh cream and barked approvingly like trained seal every time they did.

Whenever someone tried to inject a note of reality into the proceedings ie McCain on Torture, Rudy on a writted test to get a gun license, or Ron Paul on giving the Iraqis their country back the boos and catcalls were audible.

RTs like to joke than "a liberal is a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet".

Spud likes to joke that a conservative is merely and under-informed and propagandised liberal.

Neither joke is particularily funny but at least Spud's is grounded in reality.

This is because the MSM largely dictates the parameters of the national debate in the US and that slant is increasingly further and further removed from reality.

RT's simply can't or don't want to "handle the truth"

Spud sez disillusioned is a good word albeit not a pretty one.

S'rsly.

Be Well.

Wow less then 33% has better mental health then the rest of us.

Wow less then 33% has better mental health then the rest of us.

republicans are usually delusional too. I guess if being evil equates to being mentally healthy I agree with their statement.

Wotsleft,

I wasn't aware that TONYROMA was ill. I hope everything's okay!

So does Spud.

He was in the hospital when last Spud spoke to him and sed he had "degenerative heart damage" and was hopefully taking the good medicine for it.

Spud sincerely hopes that this is the case.

Tony Roma is NAWOB!

Plus he's a cool human being with an excellent writing style and even more importantly, in Spud's considered opinion, he's a man of honour and integrity with a lot of well thought out and substantive arguments that add to the tone of the debate around here immensely.

Spud to Tony:

Get Well Soon!

Be Well.

Repubs think?

In the same sense that parrots do when repeating noises they heard somewhere w/o any understanding of wot they are saying.

They're Stinkers more than thinkers.
Squawkers more than talkers.

Be Well.

So Republicans are the best ones to conclude they are mentally healthy? It's like fat people saying that their diet is excellent.

100% of Larry Craig thinks he is not gay. 100% of Tom DeLay thinks he is not a scumbag. 100% of George Bush doesn't think at all.

liberalism is a mental disorder,.

they have been wrong on issues from the new deal to nuke proliferation to embryonic stem cell research to iraq to any number of issues.

they are smug, sancatamonius, and rude, ill mannered and downright mean while they try and tell us that we are the ones who are all these but it doesnt matter because everyone is just too stupid to get it.

so lets see what kind of response I get because the left just doesnt like GETTING what they try and DISH out..........YES thats right......you can dish it out, but you're too big of pussies to take it...
and YES I AM CALLING YOU OUT!!!!!!!!

"liberalism is a mental disorder,.

they have been wrong on issues from the new deal to nuke proliferation to embryonic stem cell research to iraq to any number of issues.

they are smug, sancatamonius, and rude, ill mannered and downright mean while they try and tell us that we are the ones who are all these but it doesnt matter because everyone is just too stupid to get it."

BLT exhibits the very symptoms he accuses us libs of having. Truely a self-retorting retort.
Thank you BLT, you made me feel quite confident, once again, that my mental health is just fine while yours is obviously doubtful.
Take your meds.

and of course my point is that your side can get on here and say all of the things I did AND WORSE and it is thought very little of by the liberal hyerarchy here.........ah....but get it from the other foot......and oh my........its just not done.......HOW DARE we have the gall to even question ANY of the announcements from on high about any subject......
and of course the other point was that when you talk in general terms as this thread does, its impossible to cover enough bases to even think about it twice.........but HERE AGAIN........its perfectly okay to paint us with a brush as broad as my butt, but turned around.......its just not done.........

thanks for playing though......


how bout them # 2's and now even #1 college teams........what a season.

"Thank you BLT, you made me feel quite confident, once again, that my mental health is just fine while yours is obviously doubtful."

Mornin', DANNI. I feel obligated to tell you that it's not BLT that is filling you with that confidence and euphoria. It's that stuff you're smoking EVERY DAY (self-admmited, you know.)How much have you toked already today? As for your mental health, studies have shown that that stuff promotes paranoia in its users which goes a long way toward explaining your "mental health."

if any of you are looking for a real debate on the air turn on fox news sunday.....they have karl rove and van holling and it has already gotten a little....uncomfortable.......
.its not like cnn that has to plant people........

and rove just hit back with a hard right.......
van hollings is not trying to defend the DO NOTHING CONGRESS>...........yeah right.....

and van hollen just said dems wont raise taxes and rove just laughed in his face...

you really should turn this on......they are talking louder and louder......its great.....

and they are both pointing fingers at each other and I think the tips actually hit each other......

so thats why I put this on the gays in military thread......

A REAL DEBATE>......CNN...are you watching.....

sniff sniff.......what is that smell???

anyone else smell that????

smells a little like.....dog shit maybe.......

sniff........
hhhhmmmmmmm

"its great....."

So is this, bushlover2:

An example of someone with some balls, admitting that they're wrong...it might be instructive to you:

"smells a little like.....dog shit maybe......."

Yep...

la de dahh dahh..

oh what a beautifull morning
oh what a beautifull day
I have this wonderfull feeling
everythins going my way.....


yehaw.....boomer sooner......

and hawaii came back and beat washington to be the ONLY undefeated team in the country........the qb was SENSATIONAL......anyone else stay up to see it.....was worth it.........

la de dahh dahh..

POSTED BY BUSHLOVERTWO

Atta Boy!

Ignore them..............just because ya totally fucked up the facts...............there is no need to admit it............stick with what gotta here,,,,,,,,,,obstinance......
......

but you see.....you are thinking that facts and hans go together and I know him for what he is.......
and thats why AFTER REPEATEDLY answering his bullshit comments......I am ignoring him......at least when he has this stuck up his ass sideways......

and if you are of the same ilk then you can kiss my ass as well.....you liberal putz's dont scare me, so dont try.........

and as we come to the end of a broadcast morning, the question is still the same.......just how did I get it all...
looks, wealth, a large penis, and fast cars........
okay so hey.....one out of four 'aint' bad.......

hasta laredo...........

Well I'm nuts, and conservative. I am however happy in my awareness of my crazy.

In this world a little bit of mental illness is necessary or else you would go crazy.

"but you see.....you are thinking that facts and hans go together and I know him for what he is......."

Yep, someone seeking an truthful response to this bullshit comment:

.....you liberal putz's dont scare me, so dont try.........


Scare?.....How can you be Scared.......Obstinance means never having to say I was wrong or even this is what I really meant...

You go boy...Don't play with Hans until he forgets, gets bored, gives up, or you've diluted it with 'other' facts....

Those dems ain't got the staying power when it comes to obstinance....Delute them facts of his with the other ones you know the ones that make you look oh so good...like a fast car, wealth, and a large penis.......a shame the penis is between your ears......

Oh...Oh I left out Looks.........Well all for the best...there has got to be limit somewhere......

"a shame the penis is between your ears......"

ROTFLMAO.

Or, as the notorious liar here would say: yuk yuk.

Hans

for final comments on this moronic nonsense, please see the saturday nooner.......
bush.....you might have to get some help reading it...there are some big words there......

bush.....you might have to get some help reading it...there are some big words there......

POSTED BY BUSHLOVERTWO

As long as you're spelling them shouldn't be a problem.......but thanks Bro.......

Rethugs think they have great mental health?

Well, crazy people are usually the last ones to admit to the fact so that's understandable.

Posted by dethspud
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But . . . the Dems are the first to admit it? Is that your point?

tooshay, rir...hehehe...

Well I'm nuts, and conservative. I am however happy in my awareness of my crazy.

In this world a little bit of mental illness is necessary or else you would go crazy.

I'm conservative on some issues too, but IMO ever since the Republicans completely high jacked the word 'conservative' they've severely bent the definition.

Being a little crazy is acceptable. Most of us are at times. I would think many who claim 'excellent' mental health, in self evaluations, are about to bust a spring.

I just can't help but point out that lots of people in the loony bin claim that they are sane. Probably about as many as 'innocent' people in prison. Of which there are over 3,000,000 in the U.S., BTW (people in prison, that is, though nearly 100% of them claim 'innocence').

To claim you're certain you're sane is to live in denial... which is a little bit 'crazy', if you know what I mean. If you were insane, you wouldn't know it. At least not for sure. Look how many people have psychotic episodes and are dead sure it was god, satan, the government, etc. talking inside their heads. When you're gone, you're potentially way, way gone. Those crazy cat lady types will walk through feces up to their crotch in their house, and think everything is A-OK.

I know of lots of people whose brains function like a pinball machine full of metal shavings, who claim that I'm 'crazy'. One mismatched shoe short of arguing with themselves on the side of the highway, and I'm the crazy one?

Sure! Why not?

I certainly don't corner the market on 'sanity', but I have a sense of humor about it. A dark, twisted, evil sense of humor, perhaps... but still, better than pretending to be nice and sane and being all prickly about it.

At least not for sure. Look how many people have psychotic episodes and are dead sure it was god, satan, the government, etc. talking inside their heads. When you're gone, you're potentially way, way gone. Those crazy cat lady types will walk through feces up to their crotch in their house, and think everything is A-OK.
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Right. And according to this survey, most of those people are Democrats. It's always baffling to me, for example, why ANYONE would want Hillary Clinton to be president. Then a post like yours comes along, and it all makes sense.
Thanks for your insightful commentary.

I'm not crazy...I'm eccentric. I'd rather be a gadfly than a blowfly.

"Hey OohRah I just woke up a little bit ago. I will hit You up tomorrow." - Larry Mohr

I was away from the computer most of today and just posted a new thread on CNN a few minutes ago. Will be in and out on Monday.

Check my 12/01/07, 1038am, post regarding our little research project. What have you been able to dig up? I think Gallup pretty much backs up my thought and contradicts yours. Am I wrong?

Right. And according to this survey, most of those people are Democrats.

Did you read the article?

This is about what people think of themselves. It's actually impossible to reach any absolute conclusions about ANYONES mental health from this poll.

Better to be happy than go through live in a constant 'downer'[woe is me/woe is the world, woe, woe, woe] Seem that way too many people of the 'leftest' persuasion hate themselves, their life, their country and the world in general, ,etc., etc., etc,... (they need to get a life).

Then again, maybe they just hate the fact that they cannot mold/remake the world to fit their 'world view'. That would also explain their unhappiness.

Doesn't matter to that one. Thoroughly in denial about his own mental state. He'd probably argue with his left shoe, except the voices in his head keep him too busy.

I'd never vote for Hillary, and by golly I learned one hell of a nasty lesson when I voted for Bush Jr. He added trillions to the national debt with his borrow and spend policies, flushed America down the shit-can, and retards like this one seem to think he's Jesus Christ's right hand. Dubya's done more to destroy America than any billion rag-head psychos could ever dream to.

Did you read the article?

This is about what people think of themselves. It's actually impossible to reach any absolute conclusions about ANYONES mental health from this poll.

Posted by Whatsleft
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Um, OK. I did read the article, which said that almost twice as many Democrats (15% to 8%) rate their mental health as "fair" or "poor". Since I'm not in a position to argue with them, I might even suggest that they're in a better position than almost anyone to judge. So all I can do is take it for what it's worth: Democrats are 92% more likely to rate their own mental health as only fair or poor. There are plenty of insane Republicans--some even come immediately to mind--just as there is no shortage, obviously, of unhinged Democrats. And the Democrats know it, and have responded accordingly.

many Repubs ignorantly think..

that we are actually fighting in Iraq to spread democracy

that torture is acceptable

that Albert Gonzalez had the right to obstruct justice and make a partisan tool out of the justice system

that its ok the Treasury doesn't publish how much money is created

that Dick Cheney isn't accountable to the executive branch

that habeas corpus is a privilege

that it doesn't matter if the govt is spying on you, because if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about

that the Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act were a good thing for our civil liberties

that we should double Guantanamo

New Orleans reconstruction is not a top priority

that the federal govt does a good job with our education system

that god should be taught as part of science class

that Globalism is preferential to sovereignty

24% think George Bush and Dick Cheney are doing a good job

that 1-35 is the holy highway described in the bible LOL....

Bliss

one thing shines through - we're not nearly as bitter as the left!

Repulicans are also more likely to be closet homosexuals.

And on the other side, paranoid conspiracy theorists are more likely to be democrats.


I think many Republicans (neo-cons, anyways) tend to ignore reality while many Democrats seem like they believe in far more than what is real. The results of which would make Republicans far more comfortable than Democrats are.

More Republicans also think that WMD were found in Iraq, that GW lives on a "ranch", that Saddam was behind 9/11 and that Hillary Clinton is both a lesbian and had an affair with Vince Foster (and then had him killed because she confessed that she was a lesbian during one of their trysts... or something like that).

Johnson-
You're a lunatic, dude. Betcha didn't know that.

Posted by Cooper at 2007-12-03 11:40 AM

Johnson-
You're a lunatic, dude. Betcha didn't know that.

one thing shines through - we're not nearly as bitter as the left!

Posted by nanc at 2007-12-03 10:40 AM

indeed!

ignorance is bliss!

The key word here is "thinks" they think they are mentally healthy. Can we have an outside opinion please? This calls for a double blind test. And does this mean Republicans are not as honest about themselves as Democrats?

Speaking of Mental Health can we have the PRESIDENT checked out? I would not be the first person that would ask that Bush have a mental health checkup. I would have had Reagan checked out too as it was obvious he was slipping badly toward the end of his Presidency. But that is a big No No isn't it? Having our Prez checked for Mental Health. Reagan at least had an excuse for his goofiness in an underlying illness of Alzheimer's while Bush really has no excuse except plain ignorance and stupidity and greed. So maybe maybe if he failed his mental health check it could help his legacy like it did for Reagan? Now Reagan is just a lovable old buffoon instead of an evil creep like Nixon turn out to be.

I could have told everyone this before, just based on my life experiences. Of all the liberals that I have met, most of them are always "pissed off" about one thing or another, causing them to always be in a bad mood. And nothing is ever their fault. They constantly whine about how someone else did this or that to them, always blaming someone else for their problems. Generally, they are very pessimistic and not too pleasant to be around.

On the other hand, most of the conservatives that I know are generally optimistic and of good cheer. They are usually happy and are very pleasant to be around.

For the reasons stated above, it's clear why conservatives are mentally healthier than their liberal counterparts.

Life is hard enough without having to be in a bad mood all the time. I thank God for making me a conservative.

I've just flew over most of the posts here, but has anyone thought that his has little to do with the "mental" side of things and more about SOCIOECONOMIC CLASS???


The poor are more likely to be democrats. The poor have less access to quality healthcare and quality food. Thus, they are prone to have more health problems.

All you have to do is to compare the rantings of the Anti-war, Tri-lateral commission, Haliburton, Move-on.org / Media matters and it is evident that most democrats are either paranoid or pathological.

The study also showed that the Rep did not just THINK they were more mentally stable....they WERE more mentally stable.

It's not even close: Nearly 4 times as many libs as cons claim no religious affiliation... and over twice as many Dems as Reps claim no religious affiliation.

Posted by OohRah at 2007-12-01 11:23 AM

That's about as disingenuous as one could word a claim like that. Granted, if I had a room with 200 Democrats and 200 Republicans, and 199 Repugs reported regular church attendance while ONLY 197 Dems did the same, you could make your claim, but it would still mean that despite your 'shocking statistic', that the actual church attendance of both groups would be virtually the same.

And something else. The GOP is always bragging about how they are the only party to offer candidates that would be attractive to Independent voters, yet your own statistics show that they are even MORE Godless than the Democrats. How do you account for that?

OCU

OCU, I hope you're not a professor of Statistics.

So what conclusion would you draw if you were sitting in church and someone asked for a show of hands, and 199 Republicans raised their hands, followed by 197 Democrats?

I don't know about you, but from that sample, I could only conclude that political allegiance had very little impact on church attendance.

OCU

try this one Ozark

POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2007-12-03 08:09 PM

I've posted that item myself on several occasions.

OCU

OCU

Posted by oldCADuser at 2007-12-03 08:21 PM

its a good one OCU prolly got it from you! But then I only steal from the best!


worth repeating from time to time...

And I got it from someone else ;-)

Isn't the internet amazing?

OCU

Life is hard enough without having to be in a bad mood all the time. I thank God for making me a conservative.

~Rethug 4 Life

God "made" you a conservative?

If Spud gets Him the wool will He make Spud one too?

Or are you trying to assert that conservatives are born that way?

Kinda the opposite of the way Rethugs think Gay folk chose to be gay.

Do you have any idear how crazy that all sounds?
Prolly not if this poll is any indicator.

Ignorance is Bliss alright.

The craziest folk in the US are the Rapture-ready righties who's beaming countenaces can be found on the teevee on any given Sunday begging cos God is broke again.

Okay, maybe Moonies are slightly more cheerful than evDEVILicals but Spud hardly takes that as serious evidence of sanity.

The fact that you apparently do aint really helping yer case.

If yer having trouble with Spud's logic here get a liberal to explain it to you.

Ask him to go slowly and not to use too many big words.

Liberals luff educating folk as a rule, so it shouldn't be any trouble at all.

Be Well.

OLD
Not disengenuous at all. I was referring to the portions who don't have a religious affiliation... not those who do. That is what the Gallup survey was pointing out. Was my summation of Gallup's results incorrect?

I freely grant that the great majority of both Dem and Rep are affiliated with a religion. I think something like over 90% of Americans believe in God, though I haven't researched that specific figure.

I postulated that a higher % of Reps were into faith/God. LarryMohr flatly denied that and called me on it. So we did some research. Or I did, anyway. (He's been ill) Gallup supports my assertation. Do you have evidence to refute it?

Liberals luff educating folk as a rule

You are right. I let them "educate" me in college.

Now they ask for my dollars so they can have more buildings to "educate" others. Actually I am quite grateful. They serve a great purpose.

Was my summation of Gallup's results incorrect?

POSTED BY OOHRAH AT 2007-12-03 09:05 PM

No, but an emphasis on the aspect that you took was much more misleading than the approach that I took, which used hypothetical figures that in all honesty WOULD support either conclusion, but that still does not change the impressions that one would get.

OCU