Reagan was, indeed, an empty suit and a Hollywood tan. The deification of Reagan by the neo-cons makes me want to vomit.

Raygun was the most over-rated pol in American history.

The professional smile and carefully crafted folksy image hid a myriad of sins.

The sheer cynicism of his first general election campaign stop being at the Neshoba County Fair illustrates the point very well.

Not quite as bad as a certain asshole of a chimp showing up on a flight deck in his li'l pilots costume which he had no right to wear declaring "Mission Accomplished" when it wasn't, but close.

One fer the Gipper?

Fuck the Gipper.

Fuck him with a stick sez Deth.

Be Well.

Ronald Reagan wasn't a god, because there's only one God that can be looked upon and revered as "a god." But, that said, for myself, speaking in a strictly personal fashion, mainly representing my own views, though my own views as blended with those of a clammoring multitude, I would say that Ronald Reagan was, at the very least, god-like.

I hasten to add, I am not sure in what direction columnist Bob Herbert's expressions of religioisity may run. However, he writes for the NYT and, judging by the photographic image of him that appears on that filthy rag's website, he would seems to be, more or less, certainly greater than 50%, not-white. Therefore, I think it within the realm of a reasonable degree of certitutde that he may well heed the beckoning cries of and cleve to the hearts of the likes of Mami Wata, Legba, Ogoun,and Sakpata, and while I have no reason to believe he's actually a zombie I have not seen any conclusive proof that he is not nor do I expect to see such proof in a Defeatocraticish mouth organ like the NYT.

Raymond Hewitt is a douchbag!

"The deification of Reagan by the neo-cons makes me want to vomit."

Me too, Jack.

"Raygun was the most over-rated pol in American history."

Agreed, Spud, since no one rates the incumbent very highly.

Whatever the Nixon/Reagan/Bush party has in store for 2008, you can take to the bank the notion that it won't be good for us. herm

ah yes.,,,,,,,

on one thread I talk about amatuer historians changing history to suit thier purpose and looky...looky here.......


and so what if he was.......


look at george wallace.......so libs here are saying that noone can EVER change thier mind or opinion about something or somepeople.

not very "PROGRESSIVE" wouldnt you say??????????

DAMM I FORGOT.

and who says that states rights is an issue that makes you a southern cracker dipshit...

I know a lot of cracker dipshits from "UP NOATH"...

I believe states rights is a pretty important part of the constitution.......
you remember that document....its the one you bring out when you want to attack our whole culture and its the one you forget when a rightwinger uses his first amendment and SECOND amendment rights......

look at george wallace

Yeah, all it took was a bullet to change his mind...

might be a strategy that more "progressives" should endorse.

whos the hell is raymond hewitt and why is he a douche-bag?

Is that fine ole aggie suggesting murder?

Boy yall let Gore Sr. and KKK Byrd change their mind, and I will bet that byrd as a poobah participated in murder.

Hypocrites

Bob Herbert accusing someone else of racism.

Well, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black!

Let's see where the deflections lead: Al Gore, Sr., Robert Byrd, and George Wallace. Methinks an unwillingness to address the subject on offer reflects an inability to deal wtih the subject on offer.

The race baiters are here, in this place, too.

They excuse their racial slurs and mistakes in 'speaking', while they force their political enemies out of business for any mistakes they may make.

In this venue, they made the error of calling me a Black Ka-nig-hit, but the posts and inferences remained, and although posts using similar words and attempts to belittle and revile are removed if they belong to righwingers/republithugs.

The hypocrisy is just that institutionalized when Yellow-dogs are involved!

Ironically, I was just reading that the term "Knight" is a mistranslation of the Latin term "equites"; literally horsemen. A class of the wealthy created to buffer the Caesar, of the time (Servius Tullius, circa 650 BC) politically from the aristocracy of Rome, and in favor of the Etruscan coalition.

The Left reinvent a neo-class to mock in mistranslating "Knight": Ka-NIG-hits. I couldn't be more proud to be in that group.

Ike was a decent Repub president.

"In this venue, they made the error of calling me a Black Ka-nig-hit,"

Would you just hang it up Tad. Nobody bought your whining then, nobody is buying it now. Constantly trying to paint that as a racial epithet is disingenuous, even for you.

"The Left reinvent a neo-class to mock in mistranslating "Knight": Ka-NIG-hits. I couldn't be more proud to be in that group."

OMFG. Watch out for that boogeyman under your bed too Tad.

Sanan begs, "Would you just hang it up Tad."

Are you kidding? Not on your life, shitgrubber!

"Nobody bought your whining then, nobody is buying it now. Constantly trying to paint that as a racial epithet is disingenuous, even for you."

As I've said over-and-over, it isn't a racial epithet, it is a racial mistake from stupidity and collective efforts to defame and revile an individual ... not a race! Sheesh! You are actually this stupid!

"OMFG. Watch out for that boogeyman under your bed too Tad."

Too funny! Projection! I'm your 'boogeyman', right? The Black Ka-Nig-hit! Too bad you joined in on the gang-bang, eh?
I can tell these dufii that I love this attention all-day-long and they literally cannot allow themselves to believe me ...

Hans knows, though, he made the breakthrough and snatched the pebble right out of my hand ...

Let's see where the deflections lead: Al Gore, Sr., Robert Byrd, and George Wallace. Methinks an unwillingness to address the subject on offer reflects an inability to deal wtih the subject on offer.

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2007-11-14 09:29 AM | Reply

Does it sting when you hear that your gods of the Democrat party are equally questionable? Terrible to have reality destroy your belief system.

"it is a racial mistake from stupidity and collective efforts to defame and revile an individual"

It had nothing to do with race at all you dishonest old curmudgeon. It had to do with your penchant to continue to deny reality in the face of overwhelming evidence.

"Too bad you joined in on the gang-bang, eh?"

I didn't "join in" on anything. I was there at the beginning and posted the original link to the Monty Python clip.

"I can tell these dufii that I love this attention all-day-long and they literally cannot allow themselves to believe me ."

Oh trust me. We KNOW you love the attention.

I am happy to see that even many years after his presidency there are people determined to reveal the truth about Reagan and destroy the myths so carefully created about him. He was the enemy of the working class, the black race and freedom fighters in S. America. He should be remembered in that context. Personally, I believe he did far more harm than good during his presidency. He may or may not have been to stupid to realize what he was doing but that is not a valid excuse.

Danni, you bring to mind some of those great Raygun "triumphal" moments...

The SS graves in Germany...
The "MiG bases" that were going to be built in Nicaragua...
Mining Nicaraguan waters...
Helping the plutocrats in El Salvador...
Invading Grenada...
Supplying Saddam with info to kill Iranians and the Iranians with TOWs to kill Iraqis...
Iran-Contra...

Oh, and no list would be complete without his lameass "Mistakes were made" from the 1987 State of the Union address.

The guy was either a liar, a dupe, or already in the throes of Alzheimers. Take your pick or combine as you see fit.

Sanan drools, "It had nothing to do with race at all you dishonest old curmudgeon."

I just got through saying that! You are a self-blinded idiot!

"It had to do with your penchant to continue to deny reality in the face of overwhelming evidence."

What "evidence" is that? Your claims that I am what you say I am? I'll bet so, that's the level of your ability to understand the written word.

"I didn't "join in" on anything. I was there at the beginning and posted the original link to the Monty Python clip."

Which supported the effort by the obsessed collective to make me the Black Ka-nig-hit, as I said ... you are as dense as concrete, even granite and nothing can enter your understanding without some Democratic shiboleth is spoken.

"Oh trust me. We KNOW you love the attention."

Yes, and my strange psychic power to make you all respond incessantly is the cause ... you must obey my desire for attention ... you must obey ... you must ... you ...

Reagan was more media image than leader. But he or his organization adjusted policy by taking the nations pulse regularly. Reagan pulled out of Lebanon after our marines were blown to bits. By the time he left office he had little brain matter left, but the Government continued to function, because intelligent people covered for him.

This contrasts sharply with BushCo who remains stuck in a medevial mental state. He had demonstrated limited intellectual capacity even as Governor of Texas, from prolonged heavy drinking. Us and them, kill for Christ, unlimited dollars for war and Corporate welfare, nothing for taxpayers. Greenspan (whose first loyalty was to the Republican Party) kept BushCo afloat too long while ignoring all the signs of an economic tsunami.

"What "evidence" is that? Your claims that I am what you say I am?"

No, I believe the origin was your challenge to provide any evidence where Rush Limbaugh had played fast and loose with the truth.

That was followed by about 12-15 cited examples of him doing just that.

That was then followed by your repeated denials and excuses for why those examples weren't playing fast and loose with the truth.

Hence, the reference to a character in pop culture who epitomizes denial of reality in the face of insurmountable odds.

I know its sometimes hard for you to remember what you had for breakfast, so just thought I'd remind you that the original debate wasn't actually about you at all.

Oh yes Mr. "I didn't say it was about race" - here's another reminder of things you may also have forgotten. There are lots more Tad.

Alex continues to pretend and disguise his delight in using the "N" word, "I'm not. I'm calling you Ka-Nig-It ..."

And, you think that that hides the real racial intent behind the effort to hyphenate the word?

Go fool a leftist/democratic! You all routinely try and dehumanize me and belittle my commentary in this way!

Now, you try and run away from yours and your ilk's blatant racism ... just too funny, you idiots!

(Sure got off on the wrong foot defending Spud's stupid mistake, haven't you? All the newbies surfing by and seeing a bunch of racist leftist democratic basterds ... i love it! I count on your bravado and inherent stupidity to continue this charade into the indefinite future!)

Posted by tadowe at 2007-11-08 05:19 AM


Then, try to justify why some stupid jerk made a careless error and hyphenated the word NIG into plain view ...?

No other reason than to be able to use the "N" word and call me that ... with the excuse that it is a French accent.

Now, here you are "explaining" something to me? The target of such a blatant racial smear? I suppose it is because you have your lips firmly attached to the Canadian racist's pimply butt, aye, hoser?

Posted by tadowe at 2007-11-08 05:09 AM

"'Lie' was the word, not 'fast and loose'. See, you even have to spin that fact! (and you think you're credible to me?)"

Yet another falsehood Tad...

"Everytime this is mentioned, I ask for the correspondent to PRODUCE ONE INSTANCE OF RUSH PLAYING-FAST-AND-LOOSE-WITH- THE-FACTS.

Guess what? None of them has EVER responded with even one (NOT 1) instance.

I think they do an internet search for sites which may help them find one ... but fail miserably in doing so. That's because there aren't any such occurences!

Go on, give it a try!

Posted by tadowe at 2007-11-06 08:07 AM"

test

Considering that the crimes committed during Iran-Contra were impeachable offenses I think naming the Florida Turnpike the REagan Turnpike is just about equivalent to naming something after Nixon....or GW Bush.

Reagan was the absolute worst president we ever had. He brought in print more money government which took us into unstable borrowing, and also brought in all the neocons including G shrub in charge of the secret you know wat as vp. Spending huge amounts on military defense essentially made it huge and consolidated all our power into the maphioso/military complex which now completely runs the govmnt.
He is responsible for pooting ALL the neocon stooges in office that now has removed our sonstitution.
In my opinion, he is the traitor that sold us out to the foreign order and opened the door to globalism in made the first treaties that opened the way for the world bank in 1995.
The guy sucks and is responsible for the demise of merca.
Plblblblblb salute to him.

So I'm guessing Obama won't showing up at the Neshoba County Fair ? Hillary & Mitney probably will be though, that pair will do anything, say anything for a vote.

Reagan was a puppet. He had no idea what he was doing in terms of politics. He let his administration do the work while he just used his acting skills to charm the crap out of the American people and used stupid names like "Star Wars" to sell the strategic defense initiative which broke several treaties and wasted a lot of money.

If nothing else Ronald Reagan taught us that Fred Thompson has no business running for president.

Reagan was a celebrity who did alot with his presidency - some good, some very bad. Clinton was a president who desperately sought celebrity and who did very little while in office. It is hard to tell which one is more over rated.

Reagan took surplus and turned it into deficit.
Clinton took deficit and turned it into surplus.

Reagan conducted illegal wars in S. America
Clinton cooperated with NATO to stop genocide.

REagan committed important illegal acts which were impeachable.
Clinton got a BJ.

Hmmm. Well if it's in the "race baiting style of Goldwater and Nixon", what am I to think of the fact that Hillary worked on the Goldwater campaign?

Senator Byrd, Hillary, Wallace--the DR Left is full of their supporters, and in Hillary's case, their voters. So I guess the Democrats haven't moved very far either. After all, here's their big chance to show the world how inclusive they are by electing a bona-fide liberal to the White House, and an African American besides.

But no. If you liberals truly believe that those Republicans are unreconstructed racists, it's hard to argue the same for Byrd and Hillary, who keep getting re-elected, to higher and higher offices. Pathetic.

Danni - You forgot the part where Clinton ignored numerous attacks by Al Queda, each followed by a promise for bigger and bolder attacks, and that 9/11 was the result of such prolonged negligence (I don't want to hear that he told Bush to watch out for Al Queda, passing the buck to a moron is not a reasonable response to multiple attacks). He thought that military action in Afghanistan would be unpopular and didn't want to jeopardize his celebrity. Now his inaction and the consequences of it are part of his legacy no matter how hard his ass kissers try to re-write history.

Both guys had their strong points and their bad points. I was saying that NEITHER deserves to be worshipped the way they are. That the people who can see through the myth of Reagan are the same that buy into the myth of Clinton, and vice versa, is funny to me.

The Clinton presidency will go down as the most inconsequential of the 20th Century, when America took a vacation from history, fueled up their Ford Expeditions, and went to the mall. One would've thought that even the most dovish of presidents--Woodrow Wilson, say--wouldn't have said that an attack on a US warship that kills two dozen sailors "fails to rise to the level that warrants a response". But there ya go.

The economy was good during the Clinton years, arguably better than during Reagan's terms. And . . . well, that's about it.

Ronald Reagan, Racist President of the United States. Yes you right wing hacks that is a true statement. Mr. David Brooks, columinst of the N.Y Times tried without success to apoligize for President Reagan opening speech in the 1980 Election, a speech delivered in Philadelphia, Mississippi. States Rights was the theme of the speech at the time everyone knew that States Rights meant "Us against them" (Whites vs. Blacks).

Mr. Bob Herbert and Mr. Klugman (Columinist for the same New York Times), in the last week and a half have filed columns to stop Mr. Brooks attempt to change History( NYTimes.com). Make an attempt to read all of these three columns and if you have any sense of History the story will speak for itself. Reagan had followed the Southern Strategy of Richard Nixon, a strategy that is still followed today by the Republican Party.

Pretty easy to kick around a dead man

This racial BS is the biggest crock of BULL SHIT in the world.

Its the white mans fault for everything that goes wrong for a black man. BULL SHIT!!!!!

If people would quit crying RACIAL DISCRIMINATION every time something does not go there way it would be an almost dead issue.

ARE THERE RACIST ASSHOLE OUT THERE YES. it is sad to say but I would venture to guess that in reality it is < 2% of the population

people need to quit blaming others and take control of their own lives and stop blaming others for their short comings. Not everyone can be an astronaut, a brain surgeon, etc.. its called being the best at what you are capable of.

I am so sick of the race card and this BS. GROW UP!!! take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming others

Now go ahead and whine about inner city schools and less fortunate districts. I graduated with 32 people in my class. My school didn't even have A/C, I joined the Army so I could go to college and worked my ass off to get where i am today. so DONT SAY A DAMN WORD ABOUT UNFORTUNATE INNER CITY SCHOOLS OR THE LIKE THERE OF.... YOU get out of life what you put into it....

ARMYOF1.....You ignorant Fuck, being of the 2% of the Racist in this Country, Is not something to be proud of, what the Fuck is wrong with you!!!!!!

ARMYOF1.....You ignorant Fuck, being of the 2% of the Racist in this Country, Is not something to be proud of, what the Fuck is wrong with you!!!!!!

ARMYOF1.....You ignorant Fuck, being of the 2% of the Racist in this Country, Is not something to be proud of, what the Fuck is wrong with you!!!!!!

Posted by celisary at 2007-11-14 01:44 PM | Reply

See what I mean, yes there are racist individuals out there they are dumb assholes, NOW CELISARY, how does that make me racist. PLEASE ELABORATE.. or just stick to the typical attacks... since that is all you seem to have done so far...

""The Clinton presidency will go down as the most inconsequential of the 20th Century""

Well the Bush presidency won't be labeled "inconsequential." No...there will be consequences for decades.
On the whole...I'd choose "inconsequential."

BTW, The Cole was bombed very late in Clinton's presidency and it was not really clear where we could hit back. If you want to complain about the lack or adequate response it really lies at the feet of Bush because he received the report which told him who did it and from which country.
But I know, it's more fun to bash Clinton.

"BTW, The Cole was bombed very late in Clinton's presidency and it was not really clear where we could hit back."

Our embassies were bombed well before that and that was an even bigger act of war than the Cole bombing. It certainly deserved more than a token response. And we certainly had more reason to attack Al Queda than we did to bomb Serbian cities. We didn't care about genocide. We let Rwanda happen. The Serbs posed no threat to us. And their enemies were using the same tactics they were. The Serbs were just unfortunate enough to make our Euro allies nervous due to proximity. So bombing Serb civilians was marketed very well while defending this country from people who actually attacked us was not. And Clinton was not going to to engage in any military action that wasn't marketed well.

I don't agree what Clinton's presidency was inconsequential. 9/11 was a consequence of blissful (and willful) ignorance. I do agree that Bush's presidency will be remembered as one of the most destructive in our history.

The Cole was bombed very late in Clinton's presidency and it was not really clear where we could hit back.
Danni, what? no asprin factory to bomb? Whats funny about your stupid comments is that you seem to actually believe them.

"Whats funny about your stupid comments is that you seem to actually believe them.

Posted by slicksterWilly"

Could you, perhaps, point out where Danni is wrong? Apparently Ms. Rice's testimony would lend credence to Danni's post. What do you have?

"Then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice told the (9-11) Commission that when the administration took office on January 20, 2001, "We knew that there was speculation that the 2000 Cole attack was al Qaeda... We received, I think, on January 25th the same assessment [of al-Qaeda responsibility]. It was preliminary. It was not clear."

uh Herbert's the race baiter and Reagan was just the opposite, imho.

uh Herbert's the race baiter and Reagan was just the opposite, imho.

Ride on-
If your "ho" had any common reference with the factual record, you might have a point.

But it doesn't.

...who are you today? Cooper/Badweek/Boyd/etc/etc et al?

Reagan was a race-baiter?

Mama Hated Diesels.

I heard a very interesting thing last night. A friend of mine was in U.S. Special Forces during the Reagan presidency. While in Honduras "fighting drugs" and teaching interdiction techniques to the Honduran military, he went into a bar unfrequented by Americans.

Lo and behold, there was a buddy of his he'd served with a couple of years before. His buddy was now 'out' of the military, sporting a ponytail, and working for the CIA (so my friend suspects).

Anyway, they share a beer or two, and his ponytailed buddy laughs when my friend told him what they're doing. The guy said, "Man, you get pot or whatever. We're FLYING RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD with planeloads of coke. When it gets to the border, we activate a special radio code and fly in no problemo."

That coke proceeds were used to fund illegal operations in 'support' of rebels in Central America. So much for the 'war on drugs' Reagan fought. He was fighting on both sides it appears.

the town where the civil rights workers had been murdered, and declared that "I believe in states' rights," he didn't mean to signal support for white racists. It was all just an innocent mistake.

So, being in favor of the Constitutional principle of states' rights is racist? Gotcha.


When he went on about the welfare queen driving her Cadillac, and kept repeating the story years after it had been debunked, some people thought he was engaging in race-baiting. But it was all just an innocent mistake.

So, all welfare recipients are blacks and thus any criticism of this 'wonderful' program is racist? Gotcha.


The ex-Governor has used the grocery-line illustration before, but in states like New Hampshire where there is scant black population, he has never used the expression "young buck," which, to whites in the South, generally denotes a large black man.

I have never once in my life heard of a black man referred to as a "young buck". Has anyone else?


Similarly, when Reagan declared in 1980 that the Voting Rights Act had been "humiliating to the South," he didn't mean to signal sympathy with segregationists. It was all an innocent mistake.

So, stating that this act was humiliating to the south (which it was) means that Reagan was race-baiting? Gotcha.


And the next year, when Reagan fired three members of the Civil Rights Commission, it wasn't intended as a gesture of support to Southern whites. It was all an innocent mistake.

So, firing any member of the Civil Rights Commission for any reason is race-baiting? Gotcha.


It has been pointed out to me that Reagan opposed making Martin Luther King Day a national holiday, giving in only when Congress passed a law creating the holiday by a veto-proof majority. But he really didn't mean to disrespect the civil rights movement - it was just an innocent mistake.

Well, it would seem that Abraham Lincoln would be a more fitting figurehead than MLK but any opposition to MLK day for any reason is race-baiting? Gotcha.

You've gotta love the left - they just assign positions to people based upon how they set definitions and how those definitions apply to their narrative.

and used stupid names like "Star Wars" to sell the strategic defense initiative which broke several treaties and wasted a lot of money.

Posted by Incredibleplum


Actually, it was the Russians that coined the term "Star Wars" because it had a negative connotation. Of course, our liberal media ran with the term (gotta help them nice Ruskies) and it soon became a household term.

That coke proceeds were used to fund illegal operations in 'support' of rebels in Central America. So much for the 'war on drugs' Reagan fought. He was fighting on both sides it appears

Rayguns "War on Drugs" was mostly a war on black folks.

By enforcing longer sentences on inner city blacks who smoked/ sold crack than their cocaine powder sniffing mostly white middle class counterparts he continued to perpetuate the tradition of imprisoning black folk disproportionally to their per capita numbers.

JeffJ,

Yer spirited defense of Reagan's racism is kinda pathetic.

The oft told Welfare queen/ Crack Baby's momma's stories were carefully told in parts of the country where the most resonance would be found like the rust belt. Occasionally he would make reference to the Chicago Public housing projects in case folk didn't get wot he was on about.

! have never once in my life heard of a black man referred to as a "young buck". Has anyone else?

Apparently Jeff don't read dictionaries fer fun.

buck 1 (bk)
n.
1.
a. The adult male of some animals, such as the deer, antelope, or rabbit.
b. Antelope considered as a group: a herd of buck.
2.
a. A robust or high-spirited young man.
b. A fop.
3. Offensive A Native American or Black man.

Raygun opposed MLK day cos Lincoln woulda been "more fitting"?

Face it Raygun was an amoral meat puppet with a racist, pro corporate agenda. He was responsible fer much drug running and his support and arming of militia's in South America lead to much rape, torture and murder.

Yer gold statue of the man has feet of clay and the gold? ...That's fool's gold.

Jimmy Carter was twice the man Raygun ever was.

The mythos and revisionists are being stripped away from the man.

Deal with it.

Be Well.

Reagan was more media image than leader.

Posted by nutcase at 2007-11-14 10:15 AM | Reply |

All politicians are, first, media image.

You loved Bill Clinton because he could feel your pain -- even through the TeeVee! You hate Bush and accuse him of being stupid just because he can't give you a TeeVee blowjob.

You're just like the trailer trash that can't tell the difference between a movie theatre and a video on TeeVee ... so on date night you talk all through the movie.

That's why I only go to matinees, when all the Lefty trash is either sleeping off last night's malt liquor, or waiting to clock out at the UPS warehouse.

Finally, someone has the balls to say the truth and expose all these "successor" Reaganites.

look at george wallace.......so libs here are saying that noone can EVER change thier mind or opinion about something or somepeople.

not very "PROGRESSIVE" wouldnt you say??????????

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2007-11-14 08:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

I don't believe it was the left that had a problem with people changing their minds.

I believe it is the douchebags like yourself who try to portray these people as 'flip floppers'. Little simple words for little simple minds.

BTW, changing ones opinion on whether we should go to war (based on new intel) is a far cry from pretending you've changed your deeply-ingraned intolerant hatred.

Reagan, straight outta that 'liberal hollywood' that the rightists can't seem to get enough of these days.

Well, at least the rest of his body has finally caught up to the decay taking place in his brain while president.

I have to admit, I have never heard that "young buck" was offensive. Of course we don't have racist down here in Texas like the rest of you guys.

P.S. I apologize to anybody who might find the phrase "you guys" offensive.

Better go ahead and vomit!

You have a filthy mouth, your mother forgot to wash it out with soap.

jackmeoff

Better go ahead and vomit!

You have a filthy mouth, your mother forgot to wash it out with soap.

I have never once in my life heard of a black man referred to as a "young buck". Has anyone else?

If you're going to be a douchebag, try not to be an ignorant douchebag.

If you're going to be a douchebag, try not to be an ignorant douchebag.

In Jeff's defense he does live near Detroit where folks live in peace and harmony in terms of racial co-existence.

Either that or anyone dumb enuff to use such a term w/i earshot of a black man prolly wouldn't be repeating that mistake anytime soon.

Didn't you see "8 Mile"?

Be Well.

jackmeoff
Better go ahead and vomit!
You have a filthy mouth, your mother forgot to wash it out with soap.

Posted by okiedokie

Okiedokie, want to point out where I said anything "filthy" in my post? But I forgot, the truth to you is "filthy." Grow up, grow a brain, and just maybe the truth will set you free.

Jackmeoff

You need to master grammar.

Jackmeoff

You need to work on your French too.

Reagan changed parties in 1964 when it was clear the democrats were supporting equality, the Constitution, and the values America was founded on.

The reason Reagan was elected and is supported so strongly today is that equality, the Constitution and the values America were founded on are no longer held in value by the majority of Americans. To be more correct, such things were never held in value by the general American public which has been consistently shown to be a racist bigoted country peopled by humans with small brains and big egos. The thing that set us apart from other countries is that our country was founded in liberal thought by liberal thinking people. Freedom is a liberal concept and so is all that goes with it.

Conservatives hate the concepts of freedom and the Constitution and have been trying to destroy them since the beginning. It wasn't too difficult to sell the concept to the American people.

Bob,
This country was indeed founded in part by high-minded men, including liberal thinkers. But remember that even many of these guys owned slaves. And the rabble that lived out on the farms and in the mountains were even less informed. That was the genesis of this country.

Tad,
Not that I am discounting your racist complaint, but the middle English pronunciation of knight was "Ka night'" - A Ka night' thar was, blah blah blah" - Chaucer. Agreeably, whomever used that term likely was not educated enough to know that, but if I have ever used that term, I hope you understand it is based in literary history, not in hatred.

Unbiased gets partisan, "Not that I am discounting your racist complaint, but ..."

Disclaimers like this make one into an hypocrite -- why do that?

"... the middle English pronunciation of knight was "Ka night'" - A Ka night' thar was, blah blah blah" - Chaucer."

As I've mentioned the word comes from the Latin, "Equites" and which means "horsemen", literally. The English mistranslated the word into its present form, "Knight".

The English also delight in plays on words, and so "Knight" becomes "Ka-nig-hit", and despite the lack of any "NIG" sound in the word ... certainly not by the French ...

"Agreeably, whomever used that term likely was not educated enough to know that, but if I have ever used that term, I hope you understand it is based in literary history, not in hatred."

I have no objection, whatsoever, to being called, "Ka-nig-hit", got that? I enjoy, though, holding stupid people's feet to the fire when they make such idiotic errors in attacking me, personally.

You can butt out and save your patronizations for someone else ... and you will if you have even a modicum of common sense ...

Ah good morning there Tad. Just wondering why you disappeared so quickly and never came back to address your bald-faced lies exposed at 10:29 am and 10:40 am?

You see, what you can't seem to differentiate is between a "personal" attack and pointing out why you have no credibility due to your penchant to try and change facts and hope no one catches you.

Later.

Sanan goes on and on.

Call it what you want, Sanan. I like the attention of Leftists and Democratics in that way, just the same ... it makes my point so easily understood.

I hope you never catch on.

"Sanan goes on and on."

Thanks then Tad. I'm sure that is much easier than explaining why you were untruthful.

I'll assume then that you choose to let your lies stand and speak volumes for themselves. Oh, and I do mean lies, not "playing fast-and-loose" with the facts. LOL!

Boy yall let Gore Sr. and KKK Byrd change their mind, and I will bet that byrd as a poobah participated in murder.

Hypocrites

Posted by JMFJ at 2007

yes and another difference is.......we dont hear some of our people lecturing us about things like algore jr and sheets byrd even today........

oh yeah commonsense.

dont call me a douchebag.......a pussy.....well thats okay because you are what you eat.

and one more thing....for all of you..

as I said when the info came out......

george piro talked to sadaam everyday for over a year and sadaam told him that he made sure everyone in the world thought he had WMD because he was scared of iran...
so you see......when you say that bush lied about that.......then you are the liar.....because if even iran thought he had them.....why cant you see that we thought that too...

OH WAIT.....I know.....because you just hate bush..
and will come up with anything to get the white house back.

hell you will even back the bitch from NEEW YAWWWK.


and to all of you who keep on and on with all of the reagan was this and that........nice try....maybe someday you will actually go to a history class instead of making your own shit up.

If you're going to be a douchebag, try not to be an ignorant douchebag.


I was being serious.


I've never heard the term "young buck" as a reference to young, black men.


That doesn't mean the term doesn't exist, just that I've never heard it.


It's not like I said that term doesn't connotate that, just that I've never heard that term used in that way.

I can't find it but whoever declared that Young Buck only pertains to Young Black Mn is stupid. My Grandpa called Me that several times and I am about as white as s Sheet of Notebook Paper. That is Nuts.

Larry Mohr

Young buck or variations has been used as derogatory terms for Indians and blacks. It Has also been used as terms of fondness as Larry suggested. It's just an old out of date term that hasn't been used much in the last fifty years.

Mr Fair

"Bob,
This country was indeed founded in part by high-minded men, including liberal thinkers. But remember that even many of these guys owned slaves. And the rabble that lived out on the farms and in the mountains were even less informed. That was the genesis of this country."

Posted by MrFair at 2007-11-15 01:38 AM

You illustrate my point exactly. The men who had slaves that were at the founding Constituional convention were against the "all men are created equal" concept and their followers are the ones who still hate that American concept. The rabble out on the farms weren't part of the formation of the Constution and had the Constituion been written by Nazis, they would have fallen in line easily. The concepts of human freedom for the masses is new, and not well supported by the masses. People like Tadowe prove the point exactly. They have no concept of human freedom except their own---which is what most of humanity thinks--except liberals who want freedom and justice for all. Concepts conservatives loathe.

This is why america will NEVER rise to its full potential.

Johnson

Does brainwashing hurt? Did they use lights? Drugs? You should see a doctor. Soon. A good one. You aren't well. I bet you have guns. I bet you know how to use them. See that doctor. Seriously. Hey, what could it hurt. Talk to him. See what he thinks.