I get it!!!

Bushy is at war with his phantom WMDs and we are at war with him.(or at least most of what he says and does)

Dear Shrubby;

Please resign and resolve these conflicts. All of that just by going away!!!

Is this an internal conflict?


ZING!

"President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century"

This proves he does have dyslexia. He has it backwards. They are fighting the rise of a Lenin/Hitler type regime. It's the republican party.

The grandson of Hitler's banker needs to be reminded that he has let Osama Bin Laden escape twice now that we know of. Since he feels free to compare today's Democrats to the Republicans of the pre-WWII era then it seems to me that he leaves the door open to comparing his administration to dictatorships of the past which trampled human rights in the name of security.

"""Thursday to people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century, saying "the world paid a terrible price" then and risks similar consequences for inaction today."""

For the grandson of the man who bankrolled the nazis, the idiot boy of an asshole is skating on thin ice with that analogy.

Bush IS the NEW HITLER!

They said what happened in Germany before WW2 would not happen in the USA.

THEY SAID IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE.

That was BEFORE Bush Junior.

That was BEFORE the PATRIOT ACT.

That was before the corrupt power mad leaders of the USA duped the masses into believing giving up a little civil liberties would increase security.

IT DID HAPPEN HERE AND WE NEED TO REVERSE THIS WAR MACHINE NOW!!

The people of IRAQ are not my enemy - they were never my enemy.

The KURDISH REBELS are not MY ENEMY. ALL they want is FREEDOM. REMEMBER WHEN THE USA STOOD FOR FREEDOM?! Someone should clue in CONDIE RICE?

u guys got it right. bush is worse than hitler, stalin and bin laden put together. how could i not see this?

i mean, tapping the phone of americans talking to international terrorists! the nerve!

thats way worse than chopping off my sister's clit, or forcing me to pray to his god, or rounding up millions of americans for death, or gassing hundreds of thousdands of jews, jeeze when will i learn huh?

I read this news yesterday with my mouth agape. Talk about irony. Evoking the rise of Hitler and Lenin made me think immediately of Bush and Cheney. Talk about evil and power hungry, holy crap.

"President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century"

People like Prescott Bush. All he need to do is ask Poppy. He can tell Georgie all about it. What a maroon. What an imbezzle.

open ur fucking eyes. bush will be gone and out of office/power soon. bin laden won't be. hitler didn't. stalin sure as hell didn't.

bush will be gone, but the world situation will not be alleviated. connectivity and globalization must continue if we want a better future. and bad actors will need to be 'taken care of'.

"bad actors"...
like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Hughes, Brown, Gonzales, and Chertoff?

I agree with you completely!

Or do you mean North Korea and Saudi Arabiaplaces where we SHOULD have, but DID NOT take action?

Yodar is correct, and quite serious. Our Constitution doesn't matter as long as there are bad people in the world. As soon as there are no bad people, we can have the luxury of our leaders obeying the law.

Check it out in a hundred years, but until then STFU.

Rock on, Yodar!

"""bush will be gone, but the world situation will not be alleviated. connectivity and globalization must continue if we want a better future. and bad actors will need to be 'taken care of'."""

Bush is in great part responsible for "the world situation". Thank god he'll be gone, the planet would have been better off if the idiot son of an asshole never showed up to the party.

He will be "taken care of", though not as colorful a way I could imagine.

This administration has a habit of accusing others of the things they're most guilty of themselves.

(I think there's a medical term for that.)

This particular habit is a dead giveaway for where the neo-cons would like to take the United States of America.

A vote for Rudy Giuliani will give the neo-cons a little more time to resurrect their plan. Bill Kristol (of PNAC fame) mused during one interview that the "plan" was good. It just needed a smarter person than George Bush to carry it out.

The PNAC boys want to pass the baton to Mr. Authoritarian, Rudy Giuliani to carry out what Bush failed to do.

If ever there was a Hitler in the making, it's Rudy Giuliani.

i don't completely disagree with you panch, except for the part of advocating a 'colorful' way of getting rid of the president of the USA. u see, i think voting in the next president is a little more humane, call me crazy.

my point is that detente will not work with islamic extremism. and that point has nothing to do with your blind hatred of bush.

If ever there was a Hitler in the making, it's Rudy Giuliani.

Posted by Twinpac


FF for u! where do you guys come up with this shit?

i don't completely disagree with you panch, except for the part of advocating a 'colorful' way of getting rid of the president of the USA. u see, i think voting in the next president is a little more humane, call me crazy.

my point is that detente will not work with islamic extremism. and that point has nothing to do with your blind hatred of bush.

Posted by Yodar013 at 2007-11-02 10:56 AM | Reply |

OK, I flew off the handle again, but my hatred is justified.

You are right about detente being a mistake...nice word btw. I think that the bush doctrine is a worse mistake than detente. A focused, collaborative approach to fighting the causes and conditions that lead to extremism, (of which terrorism is but a symptom) is needed. The past 4-5 years have brought the planet in a direction that is diametrically opposed to such a solution.

The difficult part will be accepting that in many cases, many countries that call themselves "defenders of liberty" have fostered or created the conditions that do lead to extremism.

Yodar-
Of course you are correct again. The only reasonable plan is to invade or bomb another Islamic nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 in order to convince muslims across the globe that we mean well. I suggest we start anew with Iran, whose previous reformist gov't helped us in Afghanistan and whose citizens held candle-lit vigils for America in the wake of 9/11.

Nah. Bomb the fuckers! When they turn against us it will just prove how right you were to begin with! Your stupid suggestions for our future actions are in no way playing into the hands of the Islamists, and are certainly not so incredibly ignorant and vapid that you should be fucking ashamed.

I dunno, I hear that Osama's Third Panzer Army is a pretty rough bunch, not to mention his navy and air force.

Yodar-
The only way to deal with "islamic extremism" is to make more islamic extremists, whereby we can feel good about nuking the fuckers until they submit.

It is nice to see that Bush has a newfound love of History. But I wonder how his studies have led him to conclude that every dictator, murderer or warlord is exactly like Hitler.......

I would ask "How stupid does he think we are?" but he is a two term president so I have to assume he knows exactly how stupid we are.......

A focused, collaborative approach to fighting the causes and conditions that lead to extremism, (of which terrorism is but a symptom) is needed. The past 4-5 years have brought the planet in a direction that is diametrically opposed to such a solution.


The difficult part will be accepting that in many cases, many countries that call themselves "defenders of liberty" have fostered or created the conditions that do lead to extremism.

Posted by panchovilla

that 'focused, collaborative approach to fighting the causes and conditions that lead to extremist' is connectivity and globalization. quite simple really, if you have a job and can provide education for your children, the chances of you being coarsed into terrorism drops.

yes, so far our actions in iraq have created more hatred and fuel for the extremists' fight against the 'great satan'.... us.

this century long war must be a very delicate balance between going after the bad actors, and simply promoting connectivity and globalization. we should be very careful not to have the affect that your last point warns about. and what many americans don't understand, is that leaving iraq would do just that. sure, going in did too, but thats the past.

cooper, wipe your mouth and try reading and interpreting before going off the handle.

Unfortunately for us, Bush is not the new Churchill, but the new Daladier.

Silver-
They have a special ray gun given to them by Islamist aliens that penetrates the softened minds of idiots in the US who are then rendered willing to give up our entire constitution and humanity when they say "Boo". Through the use of this weapon, the superhuman alien known to earthlings as "Osama bin Laden" has managed, with the fearsome alien boxcutters, to turn the most powerful nation on the planet into a quivering pile of frequently warmed over shit. And so it may end -- this great and noble experiment in freedom and self rule -- with not even a whimper, but with fear disguised as patriotism, and with the trumpet of the profoundly stupid.

(Quite clever, those rat bastards with their alien weapons...)

Lenin was ineffective by 1922 and dead by January 1924 when Stalin took over eight years or so before Hitler gained power. So Bush means Hitler and Stalin but close enough for "nukular" George and his administration, I suppose.

sully, ff for the last tidbit.

i don't think he is connecting hitler to every warlord dictator etc... lord knows we have supported many in our day.

the analogy he is making is the overall global struggle with this 'danger'. the 'danger' in WW2 was simple: a brilliant madman with some of the most disciplined people in the world trying to take over the world and cleanse it. it was faught with armies in trenches. and ended with attrition.

the next 'danger' was the threat of total annihilation... on both sides.... a nuclear winter.

we hesitated going after hitler, but were still victorious. we played detente with the russians for decades, and faught proxy wars... and pushed things like the jackson amendment in their faces. it worked because of economic success on our part.. we could build more bombs then they could. obviously, since capitalism plays much more closely to the human spirit than socialism... obciously it was more successful.

however both those world 'struggles' were against nation-states. the current one is against individual ideology. individuals that do not have anything to lose, but have nuclear bombs to gain. detente will not work this time around.

cooper, maybe you should write commic books. ur very imaginative. however i don't think national security is your forte.

Who is going to play W in his life story now that Don Knotts is dead?

The New Conservative Party isn't about one president, but rather passing the baton to a succession of presidents for as long as it takes to achieve the nefarious plans outlined in "Project For a New American Century" (PNAC)

It isn't surprising that there would be a parallel, though more subtle, incremental war of sorts taking place here in our own country. It isn't surprising that these neo-cons would consider the United States and it's Constitution one of the biggest obstacles in their path.

It isn't surprising that the neo-cons would feel it necessary to enact the Patriot Act, stack the Supreme Court, politicize the Justice Department, mock the Congress, immunize themselves from the law, launch needless wars and destroy the careers of anybody in their path.

We're dealing here with a ruthless bunch of criminal thugs who's end justifies the means, mafia style.

Passing the baton to another ruthless thug fits quite well into the modus operandi . . . if they can manage to pull it off.

After all we've seen and all we know, it's inconceivable that this country would allow itself to be pulled even deeper into the morass.

Bush and Giuliani are Siamese twins in this regard. Giuliani needs to be avoided like the black plague he represents . . . the neo-cons.

Yodar013,
Globalization is a form of imperialism which thrusts the people you claim would be able to put their children through school into positions of unending servitude. Show me one country that has been touched with the magic wand of our particular brand of capitalism and is better for it in terms of quality of life and education, without pointing to national indicators overly inflated by a minority making gigantic gains, and I'll concede that it CAN work, but point to many other examples where it HASN'T worked. Live and let live instead.

Who is going to play W in his life story now that Don Knotts is dead?

Posted by Manypaths


Ernest?

ernest died back in 2000 or 2001 sorry to have to inform You of this.

Larry Mohr

If ever there was a Hitler in the making, it's Rudy Giuliani.


hah, he'd be the new Mussolini. Mussolini liked women. And playing dress-up.

ernest died back in 2000 or 2001 sorry to have to inform You of this.

Welcome back larry-maybe Ernest can play Rumsfeld the Snowman?

"a brilliant madman with some of the most disciplined people in the world trying to take over the world and cleanse it. it was faught with armies in trenches. and ended with attrition."

Who do you think he was specifically talking about when he was invoking Hitler? I'm not sure he could tell us. Because if Bush has proven anything in the way he's gone about the "War on Terror" it is that he lacks focus and has a very short attention span. He believes everyone is an immediate threat and doesn't finish one job before moving on to the next - and he doesn't even formulate complete plans before acting. It seems to me that whoever is currently raising his ire is "Hitler". I don't question the fact that we have enemies and that we should be at war with them. I question the ability of our current leadership to focus on the right people and to formulate a complete and sensible strategy for beating them.

Wait, did he say he was the new Hitler?

"Who is going to play W in his life story now that Don Knotts is dead?

Posted by Manypaths"

Alfred E. Neuman, of course. (If only that chimp that could sign language hadn't died recently...)

I thought Saddam was the new Hitler; or was it Osama who was the new Hitler? Is the current war on terror our generations WWII or is it WWIII, is it both; or are we in WWIII which is also our generations WWII? If we're currently in WWIII, then how might Iran cause the next WWIII, wouldn't it then be WWIV?

All of these analogies are hard to keep track of. I think I need to lay off the afternoon coffee :-)

He's fighting himself now? This I gotta see?

No? He's fighting Dick Chenney, no wait, Donald
Rumsfeld, no, no, Rush Limbaugh, wait, Ann Coulter?

this list is too long to type....getting tired...

President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century,

What a bunch of god damned crap. The dems have rolled over for Bush on iraq(and prety much everything else) over and over again....for fear that he and rove would paint them as traitors or pussies.

And guess what? Like I said before, he's gonna do it anyway, regardless of how far up their ass they take his dick. Why? Because he has no tangible positive achievements to politic on...so it's all smears all the time.

Grow a spine dems. You've consistantly bent over for 6 years and this is where it has gotten you. THIS IS WHY DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS HAVE A REPUTATION FOR BEING WEAK AND SELF LOATHING! THEY EARNED IT.

PS- I bet people who think Bush is the next hitler find it mildly ironic that he is chastising the dems for appeasment. Since he's the one they've been appeasing. (No, I do not think Bush is hitler...)

Germany and Japan were and still are Industrial, hitech powerhouses. They made WWII and we used a greater Industrial and Technology capacity to defeat them.


Al Qaida, like the VietCong are a different sort of enemy requiring different resposnses. Instead the White House continues to invest in treaty busting Antiballistic Missile Systems, superexpensive aircraft.... things which are ineffective against a diffuse populace of low profile enemies. Defeating al Qaida should emphasis International Police Co-operation (think Interpol). It wouldn't hurt if the Saudis would co-operate either. So far they have refused and we still promise to protect this despicable regime, at great cost, militarily and for $96/barrel oil.

But you won't see any American Oil Companies complaining. That is one intended oucome that BushCo deems a success.

Bush's use of the word "WAR" is grossly misleading and has resulted in massive waste and failure.

Does he mention Hitler because he is trying to get an Orthodox Jew confirmed as Attorney-General?

I put up the same story last evening, so here is my comment on this new (old) rhetoric coming from George II.

"Bush's remarks were his second in two days alleging inaction on Capitol Hill, which has been led by Democrats since January. This speech focused on measures related to the war on terror, while Wednesday's emphasized disputes between the White House and Congress over domestic issues.

Bush argued the current debate over the Iraq war and the administration's anti-terror methods harkens back to debates decades ago over resisting action when Soviet founder Vladimir Lenin first talked about launching a communist revolution, when Adolf Hitler began moves to establish an "Aryan superstate" in Germany, and in the early days of the Cold War when some advocated accommodation of the Soviet Union.

"Now we're at the start of a new century, and the same debate is once again unfolding, this time regarding my policy in the Middle East," Bush said. "Once again, voices in Washington are arguing that the watchword of the policy should be stability."

Bush said any denial of war is dangerous."

And once again, the beloved leader of the Twenty Five Percenter's plays the Nazi Appeaser card. Once again he demands the right to torture. Once again he demands the right to invade the sanctity of our privacy. Once again he defecates on what it is to be American and then wipes his buttocks with the Constitution.

Any denial of war is dangerous?

Or is it in fact, the denial of his artless pursuit of an Imperial American Collective that he finds so dangerous?

Does he find reason and responsibility, clarity and direction, oversight and accountability so terrifying that he lays awake at night agonizing about the inevitable tumble of his White House of War?

Does he wonder about January 20, 2009? Does he wonder if he will be able to escape justice when he is no longer President and no longer has the impenetrable, grossly, dishonestly engorged shield of Executive Privilege to protect him from Lady Justice herself?

No, it is not the denial of War that he finds dangerous. It is just the denial of his war that he finds dangerous.

6655321
the biggees:
china, india, russia, brazil, chille, japan,.... and the list is pretty long. in the early 80's roughtly 1.6 billion people were living in poverty/famine. now its down to about a billion. thats 600 million people touched by the wand of globalization.

u have a point though. it must be done carefully and systematicaly. however the over all gains to the winners are larger than the losses to the losers. its basic international economics and its better for the world... but of course must not be left unchecked.

I don't question the fact that we have enemies and that we should be at war with them. I question the ability of our current leadership to focus on the right people and to formulate a complete and sensible strategy for beating them.

Posted by Sully

a valid point. i think its tough to 'focus' in on one enemy/nation state because our enemy doesn't have one. but i do agree with you that bush has not laid out a grand strategy good enough to win it. however, i think there is also a lack of resolve of the american people to carry out any sort of grand strategy.

Wait, did he say he was the new Hitler?

Posted by briwo

jeeze briwo, ur one liners just get funnier every day! ff for you!!!

Al Qaida, like the VietCong are a different sort of enemy requiring different resposnses. Instead the White House continues to invest in treaty busting Antiballistic Missile Systems, superexpensive aircraft.... things which are ineffective against a diffuse populace of low profile enemies. Defeating al Qaida should emphasis International Police Co-operation (think Interpol). It wouldn't hurt if the Saudis would co-operate either. So far they have refused and we still promise to protect this despicable regime, at great cost, militarily and for $96/barrel oil.

-NUTCASE

very well said. its tough for the 'old cold war warrriors' in our military machine to make this adjustment. it will take lots of time. we need TWO different militaries, one for nation/peace building (older, less armed, smarter multi-national etc etc) and one just incase and kind of power war ever breaks out (the one we currently have with 100s of nuclear submarines etc). the latter is able to wage war while the former is able to wage peace. and the transition between the two must be smooth.

trees, in your opinion, did we break any constitutional 'rules' when fighting WW2?

Comparing bush and Hitler is like comparing a paper airplane to the space shuttle.

Comparing bush and Hitler is like comparing a paper airplane to the space shuttle.

Posted by yougothurt at 2007-11-02 01:52 PM | Reply


They blth fly don't they?? They both invaded anothers Country now didnt they?? If it walks like a dictator if it Acts like a Dictator. Then it MUST be a dictator.

Larry Mohr

... spoken like a true genius.

sry.... sPokeN likE a tRue geNius

Yeah Yodar I got kicked out of Typing class in High School as You so "Eloquently shown" in Your post.

Larry Mohr

u know, if bush began denouncing all muslims and islam as the root cause of the worlds problems... then you weirdos would have a leg to stand on.

"Comparing bush(sic) and Hitler is like comparing a paper airplane to the space shuttle."

Posted by yougothurt

The Shuttle has definitely killed more people than any paper airplane I know of.

Yeah Yodar I got kicked out of Typing class in High School as You so "Eloquently shown" in Your post.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr

grammar school as well? should be 'i WAS kicked out of typing class in high school as you HAVE so eloquently shown in your post. adverbs don't need quotes, fyi.

Shrub is fighting himself?

grammar school as well? should be 'i WAS kicked out of typing class in high school as you HAVE so eloquently shown in your post. adverbs don't need quotes, fyi.

Posted by Yodar013 at 2007-11-02 02:05 PM | Reply


Sentences ALWAYS begin with a Capital Letter as You have failed to show in Your post above.

Larry Mohr

Yada

trees, in your opinion, did we break any constitutional 'rules' when fighting WW2?

Posted by Yodar013 at 2007-11-02 01:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

However if you are speaking of the Japanese internment camps, I believe that was a direct and obscene violation of the constitutional rights of the Japanese Americans and one of the more shameful acts that has taken place on our soil.

Ditto. Thank you.

If I were of the Jewish faith I would be sick to my stomach by this Bush statement, "I am fighting another Hitler". This sort of statement minimizes what Hitler was like. To compare what these terriost of today with the likes of Hitler and Lenin is just wrong. A Hundred Million people were killed between 1933 and 1945 because of these men an for Bush to compare that to what is going on today is just an attempt for this fuck to save his legacy.

Bush's, legacy is written in stone he will go down as the most imcompitant President in this Country's history. Even is Iraq became a Democracy tomorrow Bush's folly will not go unnoticed by History. If Iraq becomes a Democracy they will spen the next 100 years fighting factions all over the middle east, much as Isreal has had to do...A DUMMER FUCK THIS COUNTRY HAS NEVER HAD IN SUCH A IMPORTANT POSITION, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

You can make the argument all you like, however, it's a false comparison and ya just look like a moron.

Posted by TreesGoneWild

well i never made the comparison... so who looks like a moron?

If I were of the Jewish faith I would be sick to my stomach by this Bush statement, "I am fighting another Hitler".

-celisary

the ironic thing is, israelis understand this statement much better than you.

trees, i'll help you out. i wanted you to post that simply as food for thought. i was hoping you would take a broader/objective look at really how detrimental the wire tapping issue is to constitutional rights... since you were so enraged.

have a great weekend all. if you live in boston, check out the teach for america conference... i'll be doing some volunteer work!

crazy right?

The war on terror is a scam and a farse, the morons that still beleive it is real, are the same cowardly bunch that think giving up their constitutional rights will protect them and somehow make the US a better place. Thank god they are a shrinking minority, and people are finally starting to wake up to this hoax being carried out by the traitor, globalist whore politicians in Washington, and their globalist banker bosses.
They will probably pull another terror attack pretty soon because the people are starting to wake up now and question everything, and they are losing their grip on the spin machine. That's why Bush uses Hitler references and the rightwing media is calling for the arrest of radio hosts like Alex Jones, and calling 911 truthers terrorists like Tim McVey and saying they should be arrested.

It is disturbing how Oedipal this guy is. His daddy is the war hero... but even he didn't earn his honors against Hitler. Bush-ling had to blow the whole Iraq thing up cause his daddy had some sense about his military conquests and the little fucker just could stand it.

I wish he just fuck Babs and get it out of his system. Might figure out why his daddy had all those affairs.

Bush is just like Hitler, except he can't speak.

Just like Hitler he relies completely on his underlings to achieve results.

And just like Hitler if he'd have listend to his experts and let them do their job (Shinseki for example) the country would have experienced better results.

Bush is always trying to compare himself to Roosevelt and Truman and make the God awful mess he intentionally started in Iraq comparable to WW II. What a loser.

The comments left here by the well fed and undereducated leftists that actually compare Bush to Hitler on a public blog are nothing short of a crime against history.

Please conduct just a little research.

Public discourse under Hitler was not possible, those who attempted it were nearly all exterminated.

Public discourse under Woodrow Wilson (D) and Franklin Roosevelt (D) was not allowed; those who tried found themselves arrested. Not to mention he tens of thousands of Americans who found themselves shipped off to internment' camps under FDR simply because they posed' a risk because of they were they wrong race.

And here you leftist fools congregate ignorantly bleating about how rough you have it with Bush as President. Such ignorant selfish ungrateful children, your pathetic self absorbed comments belittle the actual suffering of those who have perished under totalitarianism.

If you have so much to fear then why take such risks as denouncing Bush? Aren't you scared the secret police will drag you and your families out of your homes in the night?

Brave little liberals, an easy well fed bravery free of risk in the greatest nation that has ever existed that even permits insects such as you to swell with self imagined importance.

Go Liberals!

And here you leftist fools congregate ignorantly bleating about how rough you have it with Bush as President.....your pathetic self absorbed comments belittle the actual suffering of those who have perished under totalitarianism.

Fuckin' A racecar.

It's quite amazing how utterly despicable the narrative of the political Left has become in this country.

One wonders where it could possibly go from here.

Pinche sez: It's quite amazing how utterly despicable the narrative of the political Left has become in this country.

In the same thread that W is castigated for this: President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century,

You sir, have no sense of irony. Or shame.

Lets see now,President Dubya is "fighting Hitler" and so far Bush's Hitler fight has killed more than 700.000 innocent Iraqis and Afghanis.Thats one hell of a dark victory! The one positive thing here is that if anybody ever understood the private Adolph Hitler its surely Dubya Bush!

Adolph Hitler its surely Dubya Bush

Your hyperbole isn't helping. And it's an insult to Hitlers real victims.

'You sir, have no sense of irony. Or shame.'

Fake Victorian manners aside, when Bush says something true try not to bury your head in the sand and accuse others of lacking the ability to sense irony or shame.

If George Bush had been President in alive in 1938 11 million lives may very well have been spared.

It take vision to see real threats, it takes a liberal to ignore the real ones and invent those that are politically self serving.

It take vision to see real threats

Yeah, like Iraq and their nuclear capability. That king of 'vision' is usually drug induced.

invent those[threats] that are politically self serving.


Like Al Qaeda setting fires in California? Heh.

"It take vision to see real threats"

Posted by zulu at 2007-11-02 09:17 PM

You mean "vision" like this:

It take vision to see real threats

The Vision Test, just another in a long line of tests that George W. Bush failed.

Posted by TreesGoneWild at 2007-11-02 10:02 PM | Reply

Yeah Dubya failed the "Vision Test" so bad instead of seeing M O M He saw W M D and was frightened.

Larry Mohr

President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century,

Bush is right.

And I think history will vindicate him.

It take vision to see real threats, it takes a liberal to ignore the real ones and invent those that are politically self serving.

Posted by zulu at 2007-11-02 09:17 PM

And it takes paranoid delusional nut cases to see threats where there are none. How the fuck can these backward Muslims with no more than IEDs and AK47s be a threat? Zulu must live a terribly insecure life.

And I think history will vindicate him.

Yes, as the president that wrecked America.

'And I think history will vindicate him.'

Agreed, though some here are so consumed with hatred they will never be able to see beyond their own personal demons.

Bush is right.

And I think history will vindicate him.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-11-02 10:15 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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Lokisfur aka Bowa states in His First line

Bush is Right.

Then the Second Line He states

And I think History will vinicate Him.

He is sure on the First line but unsure on the Second. Gotta love that.

Larry Mohr

'How the fuck can these backward Muslims with no more than IEDs and AK47s be a threat?'

Buy airline tickets?

You're too funny Zulu. So far in six years that's 3,000 out of six million. That's less than the number of soldiers who died in Iraq in five years.

'How the fuck can these backward Muslims with no more than IEDs and AK47s be a threat?'

That is truly an ignorant statement. Just because someone is a Muslim doesn't actually prevent them from acquiring an education. What prevented you?

"I think that history will vindicate him (Bush)...."

Yes, I'm sure History will tell us losing that $9 Billion was absolutely brilliant.

My point Zulu, which went over your head, is that the ME culture which you so fear, lives a relatively primitive existence with no military means.

As I've stated a number of times before, Bush will be remembered largely for the destruction of the Iraqi National Museum.

Can we end his presidency by invoking Godwin?

Yes, I'm sure History will tell us losing that $9 Billion was absolutely brilliant.

By some accounts, he's squandered two trillion $$$ with nothing to show but a war with no end. He'll probably go on record as the president that got us into the longest most expensive war in American history. The Democrats share that blame too, but that's another story.

"If Bush had been alive in 1938...."

One of the reasons the Germans did as well as they did in 1940 was that for the previous twenty years they were mush more interested in the ramifications or modern war than most others.

In other words, they were intellectually curious. You want to tell me Bush would have had such an attribute? I mean, he doesn't have it now.

History will condemn Bush II as the reckless, fell, Duce wannabe that he is. History will remember him correctly.

Sadly, as with all history, people rarely learn from it.

History will condemn Bush II as the reckless, fell, Duce wannabe that he is. History will remember him correctly.

LOL

I think there's a good chance that Bush will be remembered as one of our greatest presidents.

In 20 years -- if WW3 has been avoided and the Middle east is primarily made up of moderate governemnts and free-market economies - George W. Bush will be lauded as a prescient leader who stopped Islamo-fascism in its tracks.

I think there's a good chance that Bush will be remembered as one of our greatest presidents.

In 20 years -- if WW3 has been avoided and the Middle east is primarily made up of moderate governemnts and free-market economies - George W. Bush will be lauded as a prescient leader who stopped Islamo-fascism in its tracks.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-11-02 10:51 PM | Reply

The delusions of grandior keep on slipping slipping slipping into the future. The desperation runneth thick.

Larry Mohr

Oh and just an FYI Lokisfur aka Bowa. There is no such thing as Islamo Fascism. It's just another in a long string of Right Winged talking points that amounts to the drizzling shits.

Larry Mohr

"When it comes to funding our troops, some in Washington should spend more time responding to the warnings of terrorists like Osama bin Laden and the requests of our commanders on the ground," Bush said, "and less time responding to the demands of MoveOn.org bloggers and Code Pink protesters."



Osama Bin Laden?

Bush and his worshippers seem to forget these quotes:

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI

"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site


4 MONTHS LATER, THE TONE HAD CHANGED:



"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Bush never said that.

'In 20 years -- if WW3 has been avoided and the Middle east is primarily made up of moderate governemnts and free-market economies - George W. Bush will be lauded as a prescient leader who stopped Islamo-fascism in its tracks.'

True. Bush allowed to much pork when the Republicans had the Senate and the House, but at least he had the foresight to deal with foreign policy problems while they were manageable.

And at least he tried to save Social Security. To bad the Democrats always wait until it's too late to take action. At least they're consistent in domestic and foreign policy issues.

In the same thread that W is castigated for this: President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century

Comparing the current incarnation of the Democrat party with people who "ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler" is a tad different from actually comparing someone to Lenin and Hitler---and what they did.

Don't obfuscate, dipshit.

You sir, have no sense of irony. Or shame.

And you, sir, have zero ability to digest and contextualize abstract historical concepts beyond the level of nuance one would expect from a hyper-emotional 14 year-old girl.

George W. Bush will be lauded as a prescient leader who stopped Islamo-fascism in its tracks.

Posted by Bowa at 2007-11-02 10:51 PM | Reply | Flag:


Terrorist strikes are UP around the world since the invasion of Iraq, bowa.

Pinche- You have an obsession with childish things. Kids books. Hannah Montana, 13-14 year old girls, and talking about jerking off.

Get some help.

Chasing Ghosts-nothing more and nothing less-spend as much money as possible to break this country

Bush never said that.

www.whitehouse.gov


Posted by Bowa at 2007-11-02 11:11 PM | Reply | Flag

Riiiiiiight.

Cuz we know the WH doesn't edit transcripts.

Uh-Huh.

"Don't obfuscate..."

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2007-11-02 11:32 PM

Without a doubt one of the most (unintentionally) funny comments ever posted on the Drudge.

Hans

"Don't obfuscate..."

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2007-11-02 11:32 PM

Without a doubt one of the most (unintentionally) funny comments ever posted on the Drudge.

Hans

Posted by Hans



Pinche must have gone to school in Texas, since "eschew obfuscation" is a joke older than he is.

Hans must pay more attention.

If George Bush had been President in alive in 1938 11 million lives may very well have been spared.

You mean, he would have invaded Germany? Amazing.

in the greatest nation that has ever existed

says who?

If George Bush had been President in alive in 1938 . . . "

we probably wouldn't be dealing with his incompetence today!

"If George Bush had been President in alive in 1938 . . . "

"we probably wouldn't be dealing with his incompetence today!"

I'd give this comment a funny flag if it weren't true, which actually makes it much more sad than funny.

If George Bush had been President in alive in 1938 11 million lives may very well have been spared.

You mean, he would have invaded Germany? Amazing.

Posted by fribo at



no he would have invaded Bolivia

If George Bush had been President in alive in 1938 11 million lives may very well have been spared.

Spared?? Spared from what?

I don't think you quite grasp the situation and history.

Iraq, one country and well over a million lives killed by what......5 countries opposing one and that is a huge push.

11 million lives with 30 countries over 4 continents.

If Bush was alive and president back then, the loss would have been well in the 30 million mark and we would probably be still fighting it.

Not only that, the U.S. would be in civil war from all the contitutional violation.

Yes it's easy to poke at Dumbya, but he's not the first.
What worries me is a political system that endows idiots with too much power. If you think Bush is bad, wait until you get Hillary.

President George W. Bush

"Same Pig-Headed Fuck.....Different Day"

"the greatest nation that has ever existed"

Reunite Gondwanaland!

"i think there is also a lack of resolve of the american people to carry out any sort of grand strategy."

Impossible to tell. We haven't been asked to sacrifice anything. Rather than asking us to make sacrifices for the war effort, our government cut taxes - basically procrastinating on paying for the wars. Not only that, but we haven't been presented with a complete, sensible strategy to get behind. We are given scraps of information - many of which are untrue - then our government half asses a response, people die and money is wasted. People have a right to be disillusioned.

"basically procrastinating on paying for the wars."

What we in the real world call putting it on the credit card. The entire Iraq and Afghanistan wars have been prosecuted with borrowed money. The Bush Administration seems to believe these wars are worth fighting, just not worth paying for. Remember the stink when some Democrats actually suggested this generation pay for it?

We haven't been asked to sacrifice anything.

The feds don't ask; they take. Inflation is another means of taxation. Notice how fast prices are rising lately?

"The Bush Administration seems to believe these wars are worth fighting, just not worth paying for."

They don't have the balls to deal with the scrutiny that would come with asking the people to sacrifice for their plans. They've always shown that they are afraid of questions which indicates to me that on some level they know that they are underprepared and/or full of shit.

But undoubtedly, a complete failure like Cheney, whose grand pronouncements are always wrong, will spend the rest of his life blaming his failure on the American public. He, among others, are too arrogant to ever recognize a mistake. That is what really pisses me off about the "lack of resolve" arguement. Although I didn't take it that way coming from from Yodar.

"What we in the real world call putting it on the credit card."

America would be subprime borrower if it were a person. Let's hope we don't lose the house when the lenders finally realize that we are in over our heads.

If you disagree with George W. Bush and his war in Iraq, you are Un-American.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

how to turn a negative situation into a positive one? Build a permanent U.S. military base in Iraq so that we can squash a problem in the middle east faster when someone gets out of line. I am sure this has always been in the backs of the "great minds" that started this war.

Why didn't we just set up shop in Afghanistan?

Why didn't we just set up shop in Afghanistan?

Posted by redwhiteandblue at 2007-11-03 01:06 PM | Reply

Afghanistan took care of the Natural Gas greed via the pipeline to the Caspian Sea. Iraq took care of the Oil Greed.

Larry Mohr

BOWA vomited:
"
I think there's a good chance that Bush will be remembered as one of our greatest presidents."

If by "good" you mean up there with Harrison, McKinley, Wilson, and Hoover.

Pinche thinks he'll be the next truman...Jesus these people are fucking nuts.